Re: OT: Printing emails
Steve Comstock wrote: ... today there are 25% more trees in the developed world than in 1900. ... In 1992 there was 360% more wood in the forest than in 1920. ... 60% of paper today is recycled compared to 18% of electronic devices. On what and where are those stats based? Any sources of those claims? Hmmm, I just wonder... if you add Antartica, will this change above stats? :-D :-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Printing emails
Richard Pinion wrote: Kermit the frog was green long before it was fashionable. H, reminds me of this ancient joke: What do you get if you hold two green balls? Kermit the froggy's FULL ATTENTION! ;-D Ok, I'm off, it must be Friday by this time... :-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OT: Printing emails
W dniu 2012-03-23 09:34, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: Steve Comstock wrote: ... today there are 25% more trees in the developed world than in 1900. ... In 1992 there was 360% more wood in the forest than in 1920. ... 60% of paper today is recycled compared to 18% of electronic devices. On what and where are those stats based? Any sources of those claims? Hmmm, I just wonder... if you add Antartica, will this change above stats? :-D :-D I don't believe them, but it pay attention to real problem: people often do silly things, they want to be green, but actually they make vene more harm to the environment. We often see only part of the picture. We are happy of zero-emission vehicles, but who cares about batteries production and disposal? In my city some councilman wanted to forbid usage of plastic bags for shopping - some professor answered him that plastic bags looks awfully, but are comletely neutral for the environment, and proposed paper bags are harmful *during production*. There are more examples ...but it's still off topic. :-((( -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, www.brebank.pl, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2012 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.410.984 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OT: Printing emails
In 4f68a626.9050...@trainersfriend.com, on 03/20/2012 at 09:45 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said: Of course, he has his agenda. But an interesting insight, eh? Insight? I'd call it propoganda. Take Reading a newspaper everyday spends 20% less carbon-dioxide than reading an online news source for 30 minutes a day.; it's blatantly false. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
OT: Printing emails
I had my favorite copy shop run off a course material book for an upcoming class. Got an email that the job is done. At the bottom of the email was a note so different from any others I've seen (usually consider the environment before printing kind of thing) that it startled me. So here, for a different perspective, is what it says: It is OK to print this email. The paper industry plants more than it harvests and today there are 25% more trees in the developed world than in 1900. Paper is biodegradable, renewable and sustainable. Growing and harvesting trees provides jobs while forestry plantations provide clean air, clean water, wildlife habitat and carbon storage. A decline in the demand for paper products risks a decline in sustainable managed re-growth forests. Use print, it is tangible, it is effective in getting your message across and when recycled it will come back to us as paper or board. • In 1992 there was 360% more wood in the forest than in 1920. • 60% of paper today is recycled compared to 18% of electronic devices. • Reading a newspaper everyday spends 20% less carbon-dioxide than reading an online news source for 30 minutes a day. Of course, he has his agenda. But an interesting insight, eh? -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Printing emails
I usually consider this as rubbish, waste of bandwith, storage capacity and energy to process, store, transfer and read it (calculate the trees needed to display his view). Including notes from people that can't resist to display they have the money to buy a smartphone of brand such and such. I know my company will attach info to this email, but this at least has some (legally) justification, as the info attached by this listserver is useful. Kees. Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote in message news:4f68a626.9050...@trainersfriend.com... I had my favorite copy shop run off a course material book for an upcoming class. Got an email that the job is done. At the bottom of the email was a note so different from any others I've seen (usually consider the environment before printing kind of thing) that it startled me. So here, for a different perspective, is what it says: It is OK to print this email. The paper industry plants more than it harvests and today there are 25% more trees in the developed world than in 1900. Paper is biodegradable, renewable and sustainable. Growing and harvesting trees provides jobs while forestry plantations provide clean air, clean water, wildlife habitat and carbon storage. A decline in the demand for paper products risks a decline in sustainable managed re-growth forests. Use print, it is tangible, it is effective in getting your message across and when recycled it will come back to us as paper or board. * In 1992 there was 360% more wood in the forest than in 1920. * 60% of paper today is recycled compared to 18% of electronic devices. * Reading a newspaper everyday spends 20% less carbon-dioxide than reading an online news source for 30 minutes a day. Of course, he has his agenda. But an interesting insight, eh? -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Printing emails
Hey, I am a child of the 60s going green is cool ... Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: I usually consider this as rubbish, waste of bandwith, storage capacity and energy to process, store, transfer and read it (calculate the trees needed to display his view). Including notes from people that can't resist to display they have the money to buy a smartphone of brand such and such. I know my company will attach info to this email, but this at least has some (legally) justification, as the info attached by this listserver is useful. Kees. Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote in message news:4f68a626.9050...@trainersfriend.com... I had my favorite copy shop run off a course material book for an upcoming class. Got an email that the job is done. At the bottom of the email was a note so different from any others I've seen (usually consider the environment before printing kind of thing) that it startled me. So here, for a different perspective, is what it says: It is OK to print this email. The paper industry plants more than it harvests and today there are 25% more trees in the developed world than in 1900. Paper is biodegradable, renewable and sustainable. Growing and harvesting trees provides jobs while forestry plantations provide clean air, clean water, wildlife habitat and carbon storage. A decline in the demand for paper products risks a decline in sustainable managed re-growth forests. Use print, it is tangible, it is effective in getting your message across and when recycled it will come back to us as paper or board. * In 1992 there was 360% more wood in the forest than in 1920. * 60% of paper today is recycled compared to 18% of electronic devices. * Reading a newspaper everyday spends 20% less carbon-dioxide than reading an online news source for 30 minutes a day. Of course, he has his agenda. But an interesting insight, eh? -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Kermit the frog was green long before it was fashionable. Richard and Vickie Pinion --- scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Printing emails Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:43:48 -0400 Hey, I am a child of the 60s going green is cool ... Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: I usually consider this as rubbish, waste of bandwith, storage capacity and energy to process, store, transfer and read it (calculate the trees needed to display his view). Including notes from people that can't resist to display they have the money to buy a smartphone of brand such and such. I know my company will attach info to this email, but this at least has some (legally) justification, as the info attached by this listserver is useful. Kees. Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote in message news:4f68a626.9050...@trainersfriend.com... I had my favorite copy shop run off a course material book for an upcoming class. Got an email that the job is done. At the bottom of the email was a note so different from any others I've seen (usually consider the environment before printing kind of thing) that it startled me. So here, for a different perspective, is what it says: It is OK to print this email. The paper industry plants more than it harvests and today there are 25% more trees in the developed world than in 1900. Paper is biodegradable, renewable and sustainable. Growing and harvesting trees provides jobs while forestry plantations provide clean air, clean water, wildlife habitat and carbon storage. A decline in the demand for paper products risks a decline in sustainable managed re-growth forests. Use print, it is tangible, it is effective in getting your message across and when recycled it will come back to us as paper or board. * In 1992 there was 360% more wood in the forest than in 1920. * 60% of paper today is recycled compared to 18% of electronic devices. * Reading a newspaper everyday spends 20% less carbon-dioxide than reading an online news source for 30 minutes a day. Of course, he has his agenda. But an interesting insight, eh? -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Time On Mainframe Emails
Add the following to /etc/rc and /etc/profile TZ=desired value export $TZ HTH, snip Is there something I should be changing in USS? * * /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I don't know that I would recommend that unless he gets his TOD clock set to the proper UTC time. On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.comwrote: Add the following to /etc/rc and /etc/profile TZ=desired value export $TZ HTH, snip Is there something I should be changing in USS? * * /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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In a specific location of file rc? * * *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.comwrote: Add the following to /etc/rc and /etc/profile TZ=desired value export $TZ HTH, snip Is there something I should be changing in USS? * * /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time On Mainframe Emails
agreed Al Staller | Z Systems Programmer | KBM Group | (Tel) 972 664 3565 | allan.stal...@kbmg.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Time On Mainframe Emails I don't know that I would recommend that unless he gets his TOD clock set to the proper UTC time. On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.comwrote: Add the following to /etc/rc and /etc/profile TZ=desired value export $TZ HTH, snip Is there something I should be changing in USS? * * /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time On Mainframe Emails
Almost anywhere in the file. I have mine about 5 lines in. Be aware. My prior post was based on the HW clock being set to GMT. The desired value is the timezone offset In the case that the HW clock is set to GMT, I would probably use EST5EDT. The 5 can be adjusted up or down to yield the correct timezone offset. e.g. EST4EDT is also valid. Google is your friend. There are hundreds of possible values for the TZ offset. HTH, -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time On Mainframe Emails
That is it. It is using the hardware clock as though it is Z / UTC / GMT, as it is supposed to. Reset the hardware clock to GMT and put in the right offset EST5EDT and you will get GMT there. On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:03 AM, George Rodriguez george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org wrote: Hi Allan, We are not using vanilla SMTP. The TIMEZONE in SMTP parmlib member is code as EST. TIMEZONE in SYS1.PARMLIB is coded as: W.06.52.00. Using XMITIP to send email. *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.comwrote: If you are using vanilla SMTP (e.g. SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)) look at the TIMEZONE operand in the SMTP parms. Does it match the z/OS offset in SYS1.PARMLIB(CLOCKxx). If you are using CSSMTP, there is a separate configuration file to set environment variables. If you are using SMTPNOTE, there is a customizion of the SMTPNOTE rexx exec to be made similar to the TIMEZONE parameter for SMTP Check the fine manuals for details, HTH, snip When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Inside the body of the email, there are several other times and those are all okay. This problem is just not making any sense. Does anyone know where that time comes from? Here's the top line that shows the bad time: /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time On Mainframe Emails
In CAApqkjs0AW1kP=-jorgzgf0nbrh-e3ujd63vajovyd_nfdb...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/02/2011 at 08:12 AM, George Rodriguez george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org said: When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. What is the complete contents of the Date: header line? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Hi Seymour, As it turns out, the Rexx EXEC that I was using, XMITIP from Lionel B. Dyck has a sub-module called XMITIPCU that allows me to change the time if I don't want to use GMT. The routine is called tzone_NM() and what I did was changed this: TZone_NM: PROCEDURE /* the result returned will be */ /* one or the other of these */ STANDARD_TIME = 'EST' DAYLIGHT_TIME = 'EDT' Once I changed MST/MDT to EST/EDT, the time stamp on the top line was corrected. Here's the corrected message line: george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org to EDWPWXChg show details 8:25 PM (12 hours ago) Here's the bad line: george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org to EDWPWXChg show details 12:17 AM (7 hours ago) Actually the correct time is 8:25 to 8:26 pm each day. Thanks for all the responses. *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In CAApqkjs0AW1kP=-jorgzgf0nbrh-e3ujd63vajovyd_nfdb...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/02/2011 at 08:12 AM, George Rodriguez george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org said: When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. What is the complete contents of the Date: header line? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time On Mainframe Emails
George, Perhaps the timezone setting for z/OS Unix System Services is set incorrectly. Login to either TSO OMVS or telnet directly, and issue the 'date' command: # date Wed Aug 3 08:00:25 CDT 2011 # Does it show the correct time and date? If not, issue 'echo $TZ' command to display the current setting of the TZ environment variable: # echo $TZ CST6CDT # If this is incorrect, you need to find where it is being set. Commonly set in /etc/profile (this is where it is set in the IBM supplied sample), or /etc/rc or $HOME/.profile Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time On Mainframe Emails
# date showed: # date Wed Aug 3 18:42:03 UTC 2011 # # echo $TZ showed: UTC0 # and this is what's in /SYSTEM/etc/rc: # Initialization shell script, pathname = /etc/rc # #LICENSED MATERIALS - PROPERTY OF IBM #5694-A01 (C) COPYRIGHT IBM CORP. 1993, 2001 # # Initial setup for z/OS UNIX export _BPX_JOBNAME='ETCRC' # Provide z/OS UNIX Startup Diagnostics set -v -x # Setup utmpx file /etc/utmpx chmod 644 /etc/utmpx # Reset all slave tty files chmod 666 /dev/tty* chown 0 /dev/tty* # Allow only file owner to remove files from /tmp chmod 1777 /tmp # Allow only file owner to remove files from /var chmod 1777 /var # Allow only file owner to remove files from /dev chmod 1755 /dev # Setup write, talk, mesg utilities # chgrp TTY /bin/write # chgrp TTY /bin/mesg # chgrp TTY /bin/talk # chmod 2755 /bin/write # chmod 2755 /bin/mesg # chmod 2755 /bin/talk # Performed at install in HOT7707 # Commented out in HOT6609 and performed in SAMPLIB job FOMISCHO # Setup mailx utility # No need to CHGRP /usr/mail directory # No need to CHGRP mailx utility # No need to CHMOD mailx to turn on SETGID # Setup uucp utility # chown uucp:uucpg /usr/lib/uucp # chown uucp:uucpg /usr/lib/uucp/IBM # chown uucp:uucpg /usr/spool/uucp # chown uucp:uucpg /usr/spool/locks # chown uucp:uucpg /usr/spool/uucppublic # chown uucp:uucpg /usr/spool/uucp/.Xqtdir # chown uucp:uucpg /usr/spool/uucp/.Sequence # chown uucp:uucpg /usr/spool/uucp/.Status # chown uucp:uucpg /bin/uucp # chown uucp:uucpg /bin/uuname # chown uucp:uucpg /bin/uustat # chown uucp:uucpg /bin/uux # chown uucp:uucpg /usr/lib/uucp/uucico # chown uucp:uucpg /usr/lib/uucp/uuxqt # chown uucp:uucpg /usr/lib/uucp/uucc # chmod 4755 /bin/uucp # chmod 4755 /bin/uuname # chmod 4755 /bin/uustat # chmod 4755 /bin/uux # chmod 4754 /usr/lib/uucp/uucico # chmod 4754 /usr/lib/uucp/uuxqt # chmod 4754 /usr/lib/uucp/uucc # Performed at install in HOT7707 # Commented out in HOT6609 and performed in SAMPLIB job FOMISCHO # Invoke vi recovery # # # mkdir -m 777 /var/tmp # export TMP_VI=/var/tmp mkdir -m 777 /etc/recover /usr/lib/exrecover # Create TERMINFO database # tic /usr/share/lib/terminfo/ibm.ti # tic /usr/share/lib/terminfo/dec.ti # tic /usr/share/lib/terminfo/wyse.ti # tic /usr/share/lib/terminfo/dtterm.ti # commented tic out in HOT1180 - all TERMINFO files are shipped # Start the INET daemon for remote login activity #_BPX_JOBNAME='INETD' /usr/sbin/inetd /etc/inetd.conf sleep 5 echo /etc/rc script executed, `date ` I have no idea what I'm doing, so I'll need your help. Did you see my last post to MVS-L? I had posted that I did solve my problem. Thanks. *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com wrote: George, Perhaps the timezone setting for z/OS Unix System Services is set incorrectly. Login to either TSO OMVS or telnet directly, and issue the 'date' command: # date Wed Aug 3 08:00:25 CDT 2011 # Does it show the correct time and date? If not, issue 'echo $TZ' command to display the current setting of the TZ environment variable: # echo $TZ CST6CDT # If this is incorrect, you need to find where it is being set. Commonly set in /etc/profile (this is where it is set in the IBM supplied sample), or /etc/rc or $HOME/.profile Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Add the following to /etc/rc and /etc/profile TZ=desired value export $TZ HTH, snip # date showed: # date Wed Aug 3 18:42:03 UTC 2011 # # echo $TZ showed: UTC0 # and this is what's in /SYSTEM/etc/rc: .snippage /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:12:54 -0400, George Rodriguez george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org wrote: Did you see my last post to MVS-L? I had posted that I did solve my problem. Thanks. Yes, I did. Your post came out as I was typing mine. Glad you got your problem fixed. XMITIP is one of my favorite tools Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Is there something I should be changing in USS? * * *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:12:54 -0400, George Rodriguez george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org wrote: Did you see my last post to MVS-L? I had posted that I did solve my problem. Thanks. Yes, I did. Your post came out as I was typing mine. Glad you got your problem fixed. XMITIP is one of my favorite tools Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Time On Mainframe Emails
When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Inside the body of the email, there are several other times and those are all okay. This problem is just not making any sense. Does anyone know where that time comes from? Here's the top line that shows the bad time: george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org to EDWPWXChg show details 12:17 AM (7 hours ago) *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time On Mainframe Emails
When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Inside the body of the email, there are several other times and those are all okay. This problem is just not making any sense. Does anyone know where that time comes from? Here's the top line that shows the bad time: george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org to EDWPWXChg show details 12:17 AM (7 hours ago) What are you using to send emails? Is it SMTP or some other mechanism? What version of z/OS? Did you check the CLOCKxx, the SMTP time, etc... Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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George Rodriguez wrote: When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Where do you see that time? What e-mail client are you using? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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If you are using vanilla SMTP (e.g. SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)) look at the TIMEZONE operand in the SMTP parms. Does it match the z/OS offset in SYS1.PARMLIB(CLOCKxx). If you are using CSSMTP, there is a separate configuration file to set environment variables. If you are using SMTPNOTE, there is a customizion of the SMTPNOTE rexx exec to be made similar to the TIMEZONE parameter for SMTP Check the fine manuals for details, HTH, snip When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Inside the body of the email, there are several other times and those are all okay. This problem is just not making any sense. Does anyone know where that time comes from? Here's the top line that shows the bad time: /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Look at the parameter TIMEZONE with a value of SYSTZ which will use your local system time zone instead of haing to change it every time change. This was introduced via a NEW FUNCTION APAR for TCP/IP and became part of the base in z/OS V1.8. Craig Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 08/02/2011 07:57 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: Time On Mainframe Emails If you are using vanilla SMTP (e.g. SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)) look at the TIMEZONE operand in the SMTP parms. Does it match the z/OS offset in SYS1.PARMLIB(CLOCKxx). If you are using CSSMTP, there is a separate configuration file to set environment variables. If you are using SMTPNOTE, there is a customizion of the SMTPNOTE rexx exec to be made similar to the TIMEZONE parameter for SMTP Check the fine manuals for details, HTH, snip When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Inside the body of the email, there are several other times and those are all okay. This problem is just not making any sense. Does anyone know where that time comes from? Here's the top line that shows the bad time: /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Hi Elardus, I see that time on the very first line of the email and I use a Rexx EXEC called %XMITIP (ver. 5.08), from Lionel B. Dyck. *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: George Rodriguez wrote: When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Where do you see that time? What e-mail client are you using? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Hi Lizette, Version of z/OS 1.9. Use Lionel B. Dyck XMITIP Rexx EXEC to send email. CLOCKxx in SYS1.PAMRLIB has the TIMEZONE coded as W.06.52.00. in SMTP profile member TIMEZONE is coded as EST. *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Inside the body of the email, there are several other times and those are all okay. This problem is just not making any sense. Does anyone know where that time comes from? Here's the top line that shows the bad time: george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org to EDWPWXChg show details 12:17 AM (7 hours ago) What are you using to send emails? Is it SMTP or some other mechanism? What version of z/OS? Did you check the CLOCKxx, the SMTP time, etc... Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Hi Allan, We are not using vanilla SMTP. The TIMEZONE in SMTP parmlib member is code as EST. TIMEZONE in SYS1.PARMLIB is coded as: W.06.52.00. Using XMITIP to send email. *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.comwrote: If you are using vanilla SMTP (e.g. SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)) look at the TIMEZONE operand in the SMTP parms. Does it match the z/OS offset in SYS1.PARMLIB(CLOCKxx). If you are using CSSMTP, there is a separate configuration file to set environment variables. If you are using SMTPNOTE, there is a customizion of the SMTPNOTE rexx exec to be made similar to the TIMEZONE parameter for SMTP Check the fine manuals for details, HTH, snip When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Inside the body of the email, there are several other times and those are all okay. This problem is just not making any sense. Does anyone know where that time comes from? Here's the top line that shows the bad time: /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Hi Craig, Are you talking about the TIMEZONE in the SMTP profile member used by SMTPMVS? It is currently coded with EST. Are you saying to change EST to SYSTZ? *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Craig Pace cp...@fruit.com wrote: Look at the parameter TIMEZONE with a value of SYSTZ which will use your local system time zone instead of haing to change it every time change. This was introduced via a NEW FUNCTION APAR for TCP/IP and became part of the base in z/OS V1.8. Craig Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 08/02/2011 07:57 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: Time On Mainframe Emails If you are using vanilla SMTP (e.g. SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)) look at the TIMEZONE operand in the SMTP parms. Does it match the z/OS offset in SYS1.PARMLIB(CLOCKxx). If you are using CSSMTP, there is a separate configuration file to set environment variables. If you are using SMTPNOTE, there is a customizion of the SMTPNOTE rexx exec to be made similar to the TIMEZONE parameter for SMTP Check the fine manuals for details, HTH, snip When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Inside the body of the email, there are several other times and those are all okay. This problem is just not making any sense. Does anyone know where that time comes from? Here's the top line that shows the bad time: /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time On Mainframe Emails
I am sure Lionel has support for TIMEZONE. If not, it is from one of the sources I mentioned. Since you are on Eastern time, the TZ variable should be set to EST5EDT? (not sure). All of the above assume the HW clock is GMT and an appropriate TZ offset is supplied. If the TZ offset (as is apparent) is not applied, the GMT time us used by SMTP,. Actually, in my previous post, I mentioned SMTPNOTE. This is not much more than a front-end for SMTP/CSSMTP. Al Staller | Z Systems Programmer | KBM Group | (Tel) 972 664 3565 | allan.stal...@kbmg.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Time On Mainframe Emails Hi Allan, We are not using vanilla SMTP. The TIMEZONE in SMTP parmlib member is code as EST. TIMEZONE in SYS1.PARMLIB is coded as: W.06.52.00. Using XMITIP to send email. *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.comwrote: If you are using vanilla SMTP (e.g. SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)) look at the TIMEZONE operand in the SMTP parms. Does it match the z/OS offset in SYS1.PARMLIB(CLOCKxx). If you are using CSSMTP, there is a separate configuration file to set environment variables. If you are using SMTPNOTE, there is a customizion of the SMTPNOTE rexx exec to be made similar to the TIMEZONE parameter for SMTP Check the fine manuals for details, HTH, snip When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Inside the body of the email, there are several other times and those are all okay. This problem is just not making any sense. Does anyone know where that time comes from? Here's the top line that shows the bad time: /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time On Mainframe Emails
Exactly! snip Are you talking about the TIMEZONE in the SMTP profile member used by SMTPMVS? It is currently coded with EST. Are you saying to change EST to SYSTZ? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Hi George, Ignorant question on a tangent. Why do you have your TIMEZONE set as W.06.52.00? It just seems like a strange offset. I thought Florida was 4 hours west of UTC right now. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Time On Mainframe Emails Hi Lizette, Version of z/OS 1.9. Use Lionel B. Dyck XMITIP Rexx EXEC to send email. CLOCKxx in SYS1.PAMRLIB has the TIMEZONE coded as W.06.52.00. in SMTP profile member TIMEZONE is coded as EST. *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Inside the body of the email, there are several other times and those are all okay. This problem is just not making any sense. Does anyone know where that time comes from? Here's the top line that shows the bad time: george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org to EDWPWXChg show details 12:17 AM (7 hours ago) What are you using to send emails? Is it SMTP or some other mechanism? What version of z/OS? Did you check the CLOCKxx, the SMTP time, etc... Lizette The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited and that you will be held responsible for any such unauthorized activity, including liability for any resulting damages. As appropriate, such incident(s) may also be reported to law enforcement. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to sender and destroy or delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time On Mainframe Emails
Hi Rex, I'm not the person that controls that, my co-worker is. It's probably set that way, because the UTC (hardware clock) is set wrong. *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.comwrote: Hi George, Ignorant question on a tangent. Why do you have your TIMEZONE set as W.06.52.00? It just seems like a strange offset. I thought Florida was 4 hours west of UTC right now. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Time On Mainframe Emails Hi Lizette, Version of z/OS 1.9. Use Lionel B. Dyck XMITIP Rexx EXEC to send email. CLOCKxx in SYS1.PAMRLIB has the TIMEZONE coded as W.06.52.00. in SMTP profile member TIMEZONE is coded as EST. *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Inside the body of the email, there are several other times and those are all okay. This problem is just not making any sense. Does anyone know where that time comes from? Here's the top line that shows the bad time: george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org to EDWPWXChg show details 12:17 AM (7 hours ago) What are you using to send emails? Is it SMTP or some other mechanism? What version of z/OS? Did you check the CLOCKxx, the SMTP time, etc... Lizette The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited and that you will be held responsible for any such unauthorized activity, including liability for any resulting damages. As appropriate, such incident(s) may also be reported to law enforcement. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to sender and destroy or delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time On Mainframe Emails
George, Yes, I am saying that you would be better off to update to have SYSTZ instead of EST so that you don't have to change it any longer. The XMITIP, which is a very good package, just builds the actual e-mail that is then processed by the SMTP server. The SMTP server determines how it process any native SMTP commands (DATE, TIME, TO, CC, etc.) Thanks, Craig George Rodriguez george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 08/02/2011 09:08 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: Time On Mainframe Emails Hi Craig, Are you talking about the TIMEZONE in the SMTP profile member used by SMTPMVS? It is currently coded with EST. Are you saying to change EST to SYSTZ? *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Craig Pace cp...@fruit.com wrote: Look at the parameter TIMEZONE with a value of SYSTZ which will use your local system time zone instead of haing to change it every time change. This was introduced via a NEW FUNCTION APAR for TCP/IP and became part of the base in z/OS V1.8. Craig Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 08/02/2011 07:57 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: Time On Mainframe Emails If you are using vanilla SMTP (e.g. SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)) look at the TIMEZONE operand in the SMTP parms. Does it match the z/OS offset in SYS1.PARMLIB(CLOCKxx). If you are using CSSMTP, there is a separate configuration file to set environment variables. If you are using SMTPNOTE, there is a customizion of the SMTPNOTE rexx exec to be made similar to the TIMEZONE parameter for SMTP Check the fine manuals for details, HTH, snip When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Inside the body of the email, there are several other times and those are all okay. This problem is just not making any sense. Does anyone know where that time comes from? Here's the top line that shows the bad time: /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time On Mainframe Emails
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Hi Allan, We are not using vanilla SMTP. The TIMEZONE in SMTP parmlib member is code as EST. TIMEZONE in SYS1.PARMLIB is coded as: W.06.52.00. Using XMITIP to send email. Seems strange that, being in the US Eastern time zone, you would specify an offset --almost-- equal to the US Mountain time zone. AFAIK, all timezones in the US have an exact hour offset from UTC. Have you tried TIMEZONE SYSTZ ? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time On Mainframe Emails
Craig, I did change the parm, but it had no affect on the problem. * * *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Craig Pace cp...@fruit.com wrote: George, Yes, I am saying that you would be better off to update to have SYSTZ instead of EST so that you don't have to change it any longer. The XMITIP, which is a very good package, just builds the actual e-mail that is then processed by the SMTP server. The SMTP server determines how it process any native SMTP commands (DATE, TIME, TO, CC, etc.) Thanks, Craig George Rodriguez george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 08/02/2011 09:08 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: Time On Mainframe Emails Hi Craig, Are you talking about the TIMEZONE in the SMTP profile member used by SMTPMVS? It is currently coded with EST. Are you saying to change EST to SYSTZ? *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Craig Pace cp...@fruit.com wrote: Look at the parameter TIMEZONE with a value of SYSTZ which will use your local system time zone instead of haing to change it every time change. This was introduced via a NEW FUNCTION APAR for TCP/IP and became part of the base in z/OS V1.8. Craig Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 08/02/2011 07:57 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: Time On Mainframe Emails If you are using vanilla SMTP (e.g. SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)) look at the TIMEZONE operand in the SMTP parms. Does it match the z/OS offset in SYS1.PARMLIB(CLOCKxx). If you are using CSSMTP, there is a separate configuration file to set environment variables. If you are using SMTPNOTE, there is a customizion of the SMTPNOTE rexx exec to be made similar to the TIMEZONE parameter for SMTP Check the fine manuals for details, HTH, snip When an email is sent out from the Mainframe, the time stamp on the top of the email is wrong. The time it shows is 12:17 AM (7 hours ago), but the time it was actually sent was 8:26 pm. Inside the body of the email, there are several other times and those are all okay. This problem is just not making any sense. Does anyone know where that time comes from? Here's the top line that shows the bad time: /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Re: OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe
Steve Comstock pisze: For years now I've configured my mail client to not accept HTML emails. The common wisdom, as I percieved it anyway, has been that HTML emails and various kinds of attachements (esp. Word documents) were prime paths for viruses to attack your system. I seem to be getting a lot more HTML emails these days and I got to wondering if technology has changed enough that the probability of this kind of email being malicious has dropped to extremely small. Any insights from the group? I'm pretty sure that well-protected email client can receive any type of messages. Especially on z/OS platform vbg -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe
I agree with pretty much everything Phil said--except I don't use Outlook. I'm still using Pegasus at home. It's not that HTML email is inherently evil, it's just that you have to be as careful as you would surfing the web. And few people would suggest you should completely stop using the web--although technically that would be safer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe
Very useful, thanks. Graham - Original Message - From: Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:38 PM Subject: Re: OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe Steve Comstock wrote: For years now I've configured my mail client to not accept HTML emails. The common wisdom, as I percieved it anyway, has been that HTML emails and various kinds of attachements (esp. Word documents) were prime paths for viruses to attack your system. I seem to be getting a lot more HTML emails these days and I got to wondering if technology has changed enough that the probability of this kind of email being malicious has dropped to extremely small. There's nothing inherent about HTML that makes it dangerous. The risks, such as they are: 1) About a decade ago, Outlook 97 would let HTML run scripted things that were theoretically unsafe. My IT manager sent me a note which, when opened, played a WAV file which said VERY LOUDLY, Hey everybody! I'm looking at pr0n over here! Funny, but of course in certain circumstances, very not. This was fixed LONG ago, quite possibly even as a patch to Outlook 97 (I saved that old note, and it no longer does any such thing). It's worth noting that many folks decided that Outlook was dangerous based on this ancient version; using that logic, Firefox is probably worse than IE, since early Netscape wasn't exactly the most secure browser ever. 2) HTML can embed graphics, which can be not-work-safe. Graphics can also be web bugs, which can tell the server from which the graphic is fetched the identify of the note that fetched it, using a customized URL such as: http://graphics.server.com/webbug.gif?userid=...@yourdomain.com The webserver is then configured to serve the graphic (or even not, actually) and it knows -- since it sent only ONE note with that precise query string -- who read the note (well, it thinks it does, anyway; obviously it could be postmas...@yourdomain.com or equivalent, or various 'bots, but). This is semi-evil with spam, as it can telegraph Hey, we got a live one! when email is sent using a dictionary attack. Solution: don't open spam, and don't load graphics by default (any modern email client makes loading graphics optional for senders who have not been marked as safe). 3) Links in HTML could be bogus -- it's easy to say Click on this URL: www.yourbank.com and have the visible link not match the actual URL. Again, modern mail clients deal with this by marking such links as invalid, or warning in some other way. 4) Finally, I suppose comments in HTML could contain unsafe words that will get you in trouble if you have net-nanny software. But it's incoming mail, not your fault; no company can reasonably penalize you on that basis! The bottom line is that HTML email is here to stay. Folks whine about it, but the scales tipped a while ago, and too many senders use it for it to be reasonable to NOT read it. Yes, there are folks who do; they're missing out on some things, alas. I get some lists as Digests, and the HTML parts aren't usable due to the Digest format -- and outnumber the plaintext parts. My $0.02: Using good antivirus protection, practicing smart email hygiene, and having one (or several) layers of good spam filtering will keep you out of trouble, and you can enjoy the benefits of HTML email with the rest of the world. Oh, and if you use Outlook, try Autopreview (NOT the preview pane, the thing that shows you the first couple of lines of unread/all email even before you open it), which is not only nice but can also help you detect spam. Autopreview only looks at the non-HTML MIME-part, so (a) it avoids even the remaining, minor risks and (b) when you *don't* see an Autopreview on a note, you know that there is only an HTML MIME-part (or the body is empty). This provides yet another layer of early warning that this might be a dangerous message, either because what the Autopreview shows you tells you the note isn't interesting, or because there IS no Autopreview when you suspect there should be. I've built these opinions over the last 30 years of email (not that I had to worry about spam for the first 15 or so!). I currently receive 200-300 notes a day. I have three layers of spam filtering: - my ISP marks things THEY think are SPAM with a keyword in the Subject: - Outlook does its silly (and almost useless) filtering - I have a Bayesian filter that I've trained (K9, www.keir.net, runs as a POP proxy), which adds a header that I can filter on Rules tag any incoming notes that have been marked as spam either by my ISP or my Bayesian filter with specific categories, and then move them to a spam folder for later analysis. One of the nice things about the Bayesian filter is that it lets me look at the raw note, so if I'm really suspicious of one, I can check it out safely. This might sound
Re: OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe
In 4b685f64.2080...@trainersfriend.com, on 02/02/2010 at 10:22 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said: I seem to be getting a lot more HTML emails these days and I got to wondering if technology has changed enough that the probability of this kind of email being malicious has dropped to extremely small. The probability of getting malicious e-mail has gone up. HTML is only one attack vector; I suspect that social engineering is more dangerous. In general, HTML e-mail puts you at risk if 1. You render the HTML 2. You execute scripts contained in the HTML. If you do the first but not the second, do you consider privacy issues, e.g., web bugs, to be security issues? For the second, there's no security risk if you only execute scripts in a sandbox that has no access to your files. There could, of course, be performance issues. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe
For years now I've configured my mail client to not accept HTML emails. The common wisdom, as I percieved it anyway, has been that HTML emails and various kinds of attachements (esp. Word documents) were prime paths for viruses to attack your system. I seem to be getting a lot more HTML emails these days and I got to wondering if technology has changed enough that the probability of this kind of email being malicious has dropped to extremely small. Any insights from the group? -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques Ask me about our new, reduced rates for purchasing our course materials for use by your own trainers or Subject Matter Experts (SMEs). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe For years now I've configured my mail client to not accept HTML emails. The common wisdom, as I percieved it anyway, has been that HTML emails and various kinds of attachements (esp. Word documents) were prime paths for viruses to attack your system. I seem to be getting a lot more HTML emails these days and I got to wondering if technology has changed enough that the probability of this kind of email being malicious has dropped to extremely small. Any insights from the group? snip When I was still doing consulting work, I told clients NO M/S software is to be used to interface to the internet. So, OUTLOOK O/E are uninstalled. They must use Thunderbird, or some other NON M/S email client. IE is uninstalled or disabled. They must use Firefox, Netscape (back when it was a viable system), Opera, etc. And I suggested Coyote Linux for a firewall. The clients that followed those rules seemed to not have malicious code problems. And now that Linux is at the level of W/2K and W/XP (for the GUI and most user applications), I've been migrating desktops to OPENSuSE 10.3 (was when I started this) up through 11.2. And I practice what I preach. I have migrated everything that I can to Linux and only run Wine for a few things that I can't find a Linux equivalent for. So I can now accept HTML email and not worry a lot about ActiveX having problems, or some .DOC file being infected, etc. I have yet to see an attack vector through Open Office's spreadsheet as I see with XL under Windows. It doesn't mean that there isn't one, just that I know of no such. Here in our offices we have been loaded to the gills with antivirus code, Exchange set with filters to prevent this or that being attached to emails, etc. And we still see a laptop with an infection from time to time. YMMV. Regards, Steve Thompson -- Opinions expressed by this poster may not reflect those held by poster's employer -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe
AFAIK, it is the same or even worse and continues to worsen every day. The MS folks and the various anti malware vendors would like for you to believe otherwise. Keep your shields at maximum and keep looking for better shields. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe For years now I've configured my mail client to not accept HTML emails. The common wisdom, as I percieved it anyway, has been that HTML emails and various kinds of attachements (esp. Word documents) were prime paths for viruses to attack your system. I seem to be getting a lot more HTML emails these days and I got to wondering if technology has changed enough that the probability of this kind of email being malicious has dropped to extremely small. Any insights from the group? -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques Ask me about our new, reduced rates for purchasing our course materials for use by your own trainers or Subject Matter Experts (SMEs). NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe
Steve, I've been thinking about this, and I also saw Steve Thompson's post about it. I've been using Windows for years. I'm currently on Windows/XP thinking about going to version 7. I've also thought about getting a MAC because I do a lot of Photoshop editting and I've been told the MAC is great for that, but I'm an old dog and don't want to try and learn something new. Anyway, I've been getting HTML emails for several years now with no problems. I do run the lastest version of Norton and have the auto-update feature of it turned on. So I'm updated with the latest anti-virus protecting and other anti-malware stuff. I do think that the decision is a personal thing and has to do with how well your systems are protected. Only the user knows that. As has been said here before - YMMV. Tom Kelman Enterprise Capacity Planner Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe For years now I've configured my mail client to not accept HTML emails. The common wisdom, as I percieved it anyway, has been that HTML emails and various kinds of attachements (esp. Word documents) were prime paths for viruses to attack your system. I seem to be getting a lot more HTML emails these days and I got to wondering if technology has changed enough that the probability of this kind of email being malicious has dropped to extremely small. Any insights from the group? -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques Ask me about our new, reduced rates for purchasing our course materials for use by your own trainers or Subject Matter Experts (SMEs). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe
Steve Comstock wrote: For years now I've configured my mail client to not accept HTML emails. The common wisdom, as I percieved it anyway, has been that HTML emails and various kinds of attachements (esp. Word documents) were prime paths for viruses to attack your system. I seem to be getting a lot more HTML emails these days and I got to wondering if technology has changed enough that the probability of this kind of email being malicious has dropped to extremely small. There's nothing inherent about HTML that makes it dangerous. The risks, such as they are: 1) About a decade ago, Outlook 97 would let HTML run scripted things that were theoretically unsafe. My IT manager sent me a note which, when opened, played a WAV file which said VERY LOUDLY, Hey everybody! I'm looking at pr0n over here! Funny, but of course in certain circumstances, very not. This was fixed LONG ago, quite possibly even as a patch to Outlook 97 (I saved that old note, and it no longer does any such thing). It's worth noting that many folks decided that Outlook was dangerous based on this ancient version; using that logic, Firefox is probably worse than IE, since early Netscape wasn't exactly the most secure browser ever. 2) HTML can embed graphics, which can be not-work-safe. Graphics can also be web bugs, which can tell the server from which the graphic is fetched the identify of the note that fetched it, using a customized URL such as: http://graphics.server.com/webbug.gif?userid=...@yourdomain.com The webserver is then configured to serve the graphic (or even not, actually) and it knows -- since it sent only ONE note with that precise query string -- who read the note (well, it thinks it does, anyway; obviously it could be postmas...@yourdomain.com or equivalent, or various 'bots, but). This is semi-evil with spam, as it can telegraph Hey, we got a live one! when email is sent using a dictionary attack. Solution: don't open spam, and don't load graphics by default (any modern email client makes loading graphics optional for senders who have not been marked as safe). 3) Links in HTML could be bogus -- it's easy to say Click on this URL: www.yourbank.com and have the visible link not match the actual URL. Again, modern mail clients deal with this by marking such links as invalid, or warning in some other way. 4) Finally, I suppose comments in HTML could contain unsafe words that will get you in trouble if you have net-nanny software. But it's incoming mail, not your fault; no company can reasonably penalize you on that basis! The bottom line is that HTML email is here to stay. Folks whine about it, but the scales tipped a while ago, and too many senders use it for it to be reasonable to NOT read it. Yes, there are folks who do; they're missing out on some things, alas. I get some lists as Digests, and the HTML parts aren't usable due to the Digest format -- and outnumber the plaintext parts. My $0.02: Using good antivirus protection, practicing smart email hygiene, and having one (or several) layers of good spam filtering will keep you out of trouble, and you can enjoy the benefits of HTML email with the rest of the world. Oh, and if you use Outlook, try Autopreview (NOT the preview pane, the thing that shows you the first couple of lines of unread/all email even before you open it), which is not only nice but can also help you detect spam. Autopreview only looks at the non-HTML MIME-part, so (a) it avoids even the remaining, minor risks and (b) when you *don't* see an Autopreview on a note, you know that there is only an HTML MIME-part (or the body is empty). This provides yet another layer of early warning that this might be a dangerous message, either because what the Autopreview shows you tells you the note isn't interesting, or because there IS no Autopreview when you suspect there should be. I've built these opinions over the last 30 years of email (not that I had to worry about spam for the first 15 or so!). I currently receive 200-300 notes a day. I have three layers of spam filtering: - my ISP marks things THEY think are SPAM with a keyword in the Subject: - Outlook does its silly (and almost useless) filtering - I have a Bayesian filter that I've trained (K9, www.keir.net, runs as a POP proxy), which adds a header that I can filter on Rules tag any incoming notes that have been marked as spam either by my ISP or my Bayesian filter with specific categories, and then move them to a spam folder for later analysis. One of the nice things about the Bayesian filter is that it lets me look at the raw note, so if I'm really suspicious of one, I can check it out safely. This might sound cumbersome -- but it really isn't. I glance a the spam folder a couple of times a day; with a customized view that includes who the note was sent *TO*, I can easily eliminate obvious spam. The one or two notes left are then equally easy to handle
AUTO: Jon Nolting is out of the office. I will be checking emails occasionally. (returning 12/07/2009)
I am out of the office until 12/07/2009. I will be on vacation starting Wednesday, March 4 returning on Monday, March 9. During that time, I will have limited access to both email and VM. Note: This is an automated response to your message Re: Beating a dead horse but sent on 12/3/09 7:44:30. This is the only notification you will receive while this person is away. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No Emails
Oscar H Flores wrote: I have not received any emails since Sunday, is anyone else having the same problem? OMG! I haven't received an IBM-MAIN post in almost 90 minutes! What's wrong???!!! ;-) -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
No Emails
I have not received any emails since Sunday, is anyone else having the same problem? Thanks Oscar -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No Emails
It's working better now. - Original Message - From: Oscar H Flores [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:10 PM Subject: No Emails I have not received any emails since Sunday, is anyone else having the same problem? Thanks Oscar -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ZPDFSEND - An application that converts a z/OS FCFC print file to a PDF file and emails the PDF file
I coulda swore that I saw a thread about printing or handling PDFs on one of these lists, but I can't find it now. But someone may find this use of Kirk's baby interesting and useful. ZPDFSEND - An application that converts a z/OS FCFC print file to a PDF file and emails the PDF file http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/TD104449 Abstract: This Techdoc provides two Java programs and sample JCL to run the programs using the JZOS Java batch launcher. The first program, Zpdf.java, converts ANS FCFC (American National Standard first-character forms-control) print files to PDF files. The second program, Zmail.java, emails a USS file (such as the PDF file created by Zpdf.java) using SMTP. The two Java programs can be used together or independently. The ZPDFSEND file contains a batch job that runs the Zpdf and Zmail programs using the JZOS batch launcher. As with any Java program running on a z/OS system, Zpdf.java and Zmail.java will run on a zAAP processor if one is present on the system Aaron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
More on IBM-MAIN not sending out my emails
OK, per yesterdays emails about not getting my posts. I changed my settings from NOACK REPRO To ACK NOREPRO And I get the acknowledgement thing below. But when I select NOACK REPRO, I get nothing. So, either Outlook 2007 or gmail.com (I strongly suspect Outlook 2007) is killing my response emails when they come back from the list manager. They aren't showing up in either Outlooks or gmails spam folder. My guess so far is that Outlook 2007 knows it sent the email, so when the email comes back in, Outlook 2007 just kills it. But so far, I have no way of proving it. I guess I can safely assume nobody else on this list has had this problem, although today is a new day, maybe somebody that has seen this before will respond :) David Logan -Original Message- From: The University of Alabama LISTSERV Server (15.0) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 5:50 AM To: David Logan Subject: Message (Your message dated Mon, 7 Jan 2008 05:49:20 -0700...) Your message dated Mon, 7 Jan 2008 05:49:20 -0700 with subject Re: Conditional Assembly question has been successfully distributed to the IBM-MAIN list (2556 recipients). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM-MAIN mailing list is not sending my emails back out.
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Logan I am sending questions and responses to the list. If I logon to the web site, I can see the list manager receives my messages (search for sender loga3870 or message # 073417) but it isn't being sent out, and I'm trying to figure out why. Any ideas? By not being sent out, do you mean you don't receive a copy? If so, it's because your subscription is configured with NOREPRO, which is the default here in IBM-MAIN. To change it, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with SET IBM-MAIN REPRO as the message body. Obviously, this message was sent out because otherwise I'd not have seen it. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM-MAIN mailing list is not sending my emails back out.
There was no problem with my configuration. It was configured correctly. Something with gmail was causing my emails to never be copied back to me. I dumped gmail.com and created a second account in my comcast.net area, and all is fine now. David Logan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 7:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN mailing list is not sending my emails back out. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Logan I am sending questions and responses to the list. If I logon to the web site, I can see the list manager receives my messages (search for sender loga3870 or message # 073417) but it isn't being sent out, and I'm trying to figure out why. Any ideas? By not being sent out, do you mean you don't receive a copy? If so, it's because your subscription is configured with NOREPRO, which is the default here in IBM-MAIN. To change it, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with SET IBM-MAIN REPRO as the message body. Obviously, this message was sent out because otherwise I'd not have seen it. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM-MAIN mailing list is not sending my emails back out.
I am sending questions and responses to the list. If I logon to the web site, I can see the list manager receives my messages (search for sender loga3870 or message # 073417) but it isnt being sent out, and Im trying to figure out why. Any ideas? Thanks! David Logan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM-MAIN mailing list is not sending my emails back out.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: I am sending questions and responses to the list. If I logon to the web site, I can see the list manager receives my messages (search for sender loga3870 or message # 073417) but it isnt being sent out, and Im trying to figure out why. David, Get your settings either on the web site or by sending: Query Ibm-Main to the listserv. Make sure you are not set to NOMAIL and make sure that either REPRO or ACK is set on. -- Rich Greenberg N Ft Myers, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 239 543 1353 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines:Val, Red, Shasta Casey (RIP), Red Zero, Siberians Owner:Chinook-L Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM-MAIN mailing list is not sending my emails back out.
Yes, I agree. Thanks for giving me the details. It seems to be gmail.com that is (or isn't) doing something. I haven't yet figured out what. Frustrating when things work in mysterious ways. David Logan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Evans-Young Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 6:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN mailing list is not sending my emails back out. Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:42:44 -0600 From: David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IBM-MAIN] C++ recovery from (an otherwise) system abend --- Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:08:41 -0700 From: David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] C++ recovery from (an otherwise) system abend --- Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:22:50 -0700 From: David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IBM-MAIN] test --- Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:27:15 -0600 From: David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IBM-MAIN] IBM-MAIN mailing list is not sending my emails back out. --- Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:19:46 -0700 From: David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] C++ recovery from (an otherwise) system abend Not sure I understand what the problem is. I (and others) have received the above messages from you today. They are going out. You may not be receiving your own copy due to a spam filter or something. Your list settings are ok. Darren IBM-MAIN List Owner -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM-MAIN mailing list is not sending my emails back out.
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:42:44 -0600 From: David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IBM-MAIN] C++ recovery from (an otherwise) system abend --- Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:08:41 -0700 From: David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] C++ recovery from (an otherwise) system abend --- Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:22:50 -0700 From: David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IBM-MAIN] test --- Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:27:15 -0600 From: David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IBM-MAIN] IBM-MAIN mailing list is not sending my emails back out. --- Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:19:46 -0700 From: David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] C++ recovery from (an otherwise) system abend Not sure I understand what the problem is. I (and others) have received the above messages from you today. They are going out. You may not be receiving your own copy due to a spam filter or something. Your list settings are ok. Darren IBM-MAIN List Owner -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Link notification emails...
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 8:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Link notification emails... On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:33:26 -0500, Thompson, Steve wrote: Ever read the whole email from the server machine telling you that some ETR has been updated? Notice anything different about it? Not lately, but I had observed that over time they were becoming more informative, with more useful information in the Subject: line and the message body. SNIP Never mind. The message I got had included my title for the ETR that was being reported on. The way the email read, someone at IBM was agreeing that the web based system was A Stable. Regards, Steve Thompson -- All opinions expressed by me are my own and may not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM Link notification emails...
Ever read the whole email from the server machine telling you that some ETR has been updated? Notice anything different about it? Regards, Steve Thompson -- All opinions expressed by me are my own and may not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Link notification emails...
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:33:26 -0500, Thompson, Steve wrote: Ever read the whole email from the server machine telling you that some ETR has been updated? Notice anything different about it? Not lately, but I had observed that over time they were becoming more informative, with more useful information in the Subject: line and the message body. And, in support of the Web IBMLink: o Prior to the Web interface, I was unable to get emails from IBMLink at all, nor to save directly to my desktop system. it would communicate only with an NJE node. o With the 3270 interface there was no simple way to cut-and-paste excerpts from SYSLOG to an ETR. I concocted a script that did a sort of screen scrape for this purpose. Of course, I recognize I am not representative of this list -- my duties never put me in SEV 1 mode. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Unwanted emails from IBM-MAIN
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/22/2006 at 02:31 PM, Steve Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: How can I not get emails for every new post or post response from IBM-MAIN? Set DIGEST or NOMAIL, whichever is more appropriate. See the bottom of any message from the list for more details. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HP and false emails
It is a *very* old, time honored technique. If my antique memory serves, something like this is described in Sun Tzu's The Art of War. This book was thought to have been written in the 6th century BC and is still on the self at many bookstores. Of course, the email used then is a bit different than that used these days :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulrich Boche Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HP and false emails So planting false emails to try and find leaks is scandalous, is it? How interesting. How very, very interesting. Any reason why it shouldn't be both scandalous and illegal? -- Ulrich Boche SVA GmbH, Germany IBM Premier Business Partner NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HP and false emails
Phil Payne wrote: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8209-2371686,00.html Mr Hurd's part in the so-called tracer email scandal was disclosed at a press conference after the US markets closed last night. Investigators looking into boardroom leaks planted fictitious emails with journalists, hoping they would be forwarded to the journalists' sources. Hmm. So planting false emails to try and find leaks is scandalous, is it? How interesting. How very, very interesting. Any reason why it shouldn't be both scandalous and illegal? -- Ulrich Boche SVA GmbH, Germany IBM Premier Business Partner -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
HP and false emails
See landmines in http://www.isham-research.co.uk/dd.html The German adjective - not very politically correct - is getürkt. I frequently mention my dear old HP41CV in the footnotes to the MIPS tables. That's because one of the things it's used for is to find landmines. In any given set of received MIPS tables there will be one or more single-digit errors - usually caused by one or more values being truncated rather than rounded. In any other set, the errors are often in different places. I recommend David Kahn's Codebreakers as an elementary text - wrapped up in several good narratives are some important lessons in signal security. Paraphrasing, reformatting etc. His advice is to take as much care with the input as with the output. If HP's ruse caught anyone then it's their own fault. Grüße an Felix, übrigens. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co.uk +44 7833 654 800 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HP and false emails
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Phil Payne http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8209-2371686,00.html Mr Hurd's part in the so-called tracer email scandal was disclosed at a press conference after the US markets closed last night. Investigators looking into boardroom leaks planted fictitious emails with journalists, hoping they would be forwarded to the journalists' sources. Hmm. So planting false emails to try and find leaks is scandalous, is it? How interesting. How very, very interesting. Yup. Only government is above the law. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HP and false emails
On 25 Sep 2006 03:41:05 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: See landmines in http://www.isham-research.co.uk/dd.html The German adjective - not very politically correct - is getürkt. I frequently mention my dear old HP41CV in the footnotes to the MIPS tables. That's because one of the things it's used for is to find landmines. In any given set of received MIPS tables there will be one or more single-digit errors - usually caused by one or more values being truncated rather than rounded. In any other set, the errors are often in different places. I recommend David Kahn's Codebreakers as an elementary text - wrapped up in several good narratives are some important lessons in signal security. Paraphrasing, reformatting etc. His advice is to take as much care with the input as with the output. If HP's ruse caught anyone then it's their own fault. I believe that improper use was made of people's social security numbers and other personal information. From what I read in the Wall Street Journal, the investigators obtained phone records and other information under false pretenses. It was more than just phony e-mails. While this topic really isn't mainframe related it does point out that we need to be careful about who has access to production data and that an organization may need to rethink how it creates test data. If test data is normally a copy of production (or subset thereof), security needs to be as strong in the test environment as it is in production. It may also mean that test data has to have personal information scrambled. Grüße an Felix, übrigens. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HP and false emails
On 25 Sep 2006 10:01:46 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clark F Morris) wrote: While this topic really isn't mainframe related it does point out that we need to be careful about who has access to production data and that an organization may need to rethink how it creates test data. If test data is normally a copy of production (or subset thereof), security needs to be as strong in the test environment as it is in production. It may also mean that test data has to have personal information scrambled. When testing a brand-new hospital database system, everyone was entering and updating records to get a feel for it, and to try to break it. Most people entered records for themselves. Someone got very surprised when the record I created for myself didn't have correct data. Everyone else was using their real personal data. -- I cannot receive mail at the address this was sent from. To reply directly, send to ar23hur at intergate dot com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HP and false emails
On 23 Sep 2006 12:31:40 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Payne) wrote: Mr Hurd's part in the so-called tracer email scandal was disclosed at a press conference after the US markets closed last night. Investigators looking into boardroom leaks planted fictitious emails with journalists, hoping they would be forwarded to the journalists' sources. Hmm. So planting false emails to try and find leaks is scandalous, is it? What's scandalous is the journalists' (and sources') lack of security procedures. From what I've read, they used web bugs in the e-mails to determine who read them. If the recipients read e-mail with HTML disabled (or, at least with images disabled), they could not have been tracked that way. -- I cannot receive mail at the address this was sent from. To reply directly, send to ar23hur at intergate dot com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Unwanted emails from IBM-MAIN
Listserv User Manuals are viewable/downloadable in a plenty of formats at http://www.lsoft.com/resources/manuals.asp under the heading Listserv General User's Guide MAIL/NOMAIL being described on page 18 of the current PDF version. Robert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von Steve Shepherd Gesendet: Freitag, 22. September 2006 21:32 An: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Betreff: Unwanted emails from IBM-MAIN How can I not get emails for every new post or post response from IBM-MAIN? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Unwanted emails from IBM-MAIN
In a message dated 9/23/2006 2:35:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: under the heading Listserv General User's Guide MAIL/NOMAIL being described on page 18 of the current PDF version |The following are available from the IBM-Main List server: |Send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) List of information files available from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: REFcard(LISTSERV REFCARD) Command reference card FAQ(LISTFAQ MEMO ) Frequently Asked Questions QUICKstart (LISTQS MEMO ) Quick start for list owners GENintro (LISTSERV MEMO ) General information about LISTSERV KEYwords (LISTKEYW MEMO) Description of list header keywords AFD(LISTAFD MEMO ) Description of Automatic File Distribution FILEs (LISTFILE MEMO) Description of the file-server functions LPunch (LISTLPUN MEMO) Description of the LISTSERV-Punch format JOB(LISTJOB MEMO ) Description of the Command Jobs feature DISTribute (LISTDIST MEMO ) Description of DISTRIBUTE FILEOwner (LISTFOWN MEMO )Information guide for file owners DATABASE (LISTDBMEMO ) Description of the database functions OWNers (LISTOWNR MEMO) Description of list-owners commands PUT(LSVPUTEXEC ) An exec to facilitate sending PUT commands You should order the PResentation or GENintro guides if you are new to LISTSERV. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Unwanted emails from IBM-MAIN
The easiest way to change any settings in IBM-Main is to click on the search the archives link which is added as the last line of each email by the listserve. Near the top of that screen, click on Join or Leave the List (or change settings). On the bottom of that page, check the first box under Miscellaneous to stop emails of each post. Using the web site, you don't have to remember to change the email address like so many people do when they are trying to get off the list. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:54 AM Subject: Re: Unwanted emails from IBM-MAIN In a message dated 9/23/2006 2:35:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: under the heading Listserv General User's Guide MAIL/NOMAIL being described on page 18 of the current PDF version Snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
HP and false emails
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8209-2371686,00.html Mr Hurd's part in the so-called tracer email scandal was disclosed at a press conference after the US markets closed last night. Investigators looking into boardroom leaks planted fictitious emails with journalists, hoping they would be forwarded to the journalists' sources. Hmm. So planting false emails to try and find leaks is scandalous, is it? How interesting. How very, very interesting. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co.uk +44 7833 654 800 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Unwanted emails from IBM-MAIN
How can I not get emails for every new post or post response from IBM-MAIN? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Unwanted emails from IBM-MAIN
On 22 Sep 2006 12:31:49 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: How can I not get emails for every new post or post response from IBM-MAIN? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Follow the instructions that were added to the bottom of your post that I quoted above. I read messages from the newsgroup bit.listserv.ibm-main, making sure to reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Rob Luebkemann is out but will check emails.
I will be out of the office starting 05/30/2006 and will not return until 06/01/2006. I will out of the office from about noon on 05/30/2006 until about 1pm on 06/01/2006. I will be available via the Service Desk and will check emails when possible. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Rob Luebkemann is out but will check emails.
I will be out of the office starting 09/17/2005 and will not return until 09/26/2005. I will be out of the office from Saturday 09/17 and returning Monday 09/26. I will be checking emails regularly but on California time. I will also be available via cell phone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Not receiving emails
Hi List. Can anybody help me ?. Since June 10, 2005 I'm not receiving any emails from this list. What is wrong ?. Thanks. Jose Rugel * La informacion contenida en este e-mail es confidencial y solo puede ser utilizada por la persona o la Institucion a la cual esta dirigido. Cualquier retencion, difusion, distribucion o copia de este mensaje esta prohibida. La Institucion no asume responsabilidad sobre informacion, opiniones o criterios contenidos en este mail que no este relacionada con negocios oficiales de nuestra Institucion. Si Usted recibio este mensaje por error notifique al Administrador o a quien le envio inmediatamente, eliminelo sin ver su contenido o hacer copias. ** Banco del Pacifico S.A.** ** (Las tildes han sido omitidas intencionalmente para evitar problemas de lectura) ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Not receiving emails
Jose so you will not swee this answer, correct ? So i copied it to your email. Did your company introduce some new Spam-Filter ? Did you get any other mails ? I havent had problems in the last days - all was fine . Frank Krueger Montag, 4. Juli 2005 19:50 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc: From: Rugel José [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Not receiving emails Hi List. Can anybody help me ?. Since June 10, 2005 I'm not receiving any emails from this list. What is wrong ?. Thanks. Jose Rugel * La informacion contenida en este e-mail es confidencial y solo puede ser utilizada por la persona o la Institucion a la cual esta dirigido. Cualquier retencion, difusion, distribucion o copia de este mensaje esta prohibida. La Institucion no asume responsabilidad sobre informacion, opiniones o criterios contenidos en este mail que no este relacionada con negocios oficiales de nuestra Institucion. Si Usted recibio este mensaje por error notifique al Administrador o a quien le envio inmediatamente, eliminelo sin ver su contenido o hacer copias. ** Banco del Pacifico S.A.** ** (Las tildes han sido omitidas intencionalmente para evitar problemas de lectura) ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Not receiving emails
In a message dated 7/4/2005 12:51:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is wrong ?. List has been up and fairly active finding the undocumented loopholeswe're on Holidayso might take Darren awhile to post. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
