Re: No SMF 74(4)
I was unaware that RMF III was required to get the 74(4)'s. I have recently assumed this duty and will probably just go after the LPAR's that are part of the plex and that alone will be enough to keep me busy for quite a while. --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: From: Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com Subject: Re: No SMF 74(4) To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 6:04 PM Having stated that 74(4) is required for *all* LPARs, I need to back peddle a bit. As I understand the process, 74(4) is needed to establish the 'qualifying sysplex function' in terms of usage of the relevant structure. For example, if you claim GRS star as the qualifying function, then you need 74(4) to show that all purported sysplex members do indeed use ISGLOCK. If you have other nonmember LPARs running on any of the CECs in the mix--either monoplex members or members of a different sysplex--then it's not clear to me why you would need 74(4) records from the noncandidate LPARs. If an LPAR is not offered up for verification, then who cares what structures if any it uses? On the other hand, gathering 74(4) from *all* LPARs may in the end be easier than getting someone to sign off with data gathered selectively. I took the easy way out and submitted data from all LPARs. Such a wuss. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com Patrick Falcone patrick.falcone7 @VERIZON.NET To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Mainframe cc Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua Subject .edu Re: No SMF 74(4) 01/21/2009 09:44 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua .edu (@#*(*#E)! Thanks Mark and yes, right on Skip. From: Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com Subject: Re: No SMF 74(4) To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 4:39 PM On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:32:26 -0800, Patrick Falcone patrick.falco...@verizon.net wrote: Can't seem to find type 74(4) after adding a new member to the plex. Any not obvious, or obvious, reasons? Seems to be in SMF/RMF. Doesn't that come from RMF III? Is RMFGAT running? Mark -- Mark Zelden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
No SMF 74(4)
Can't seem to find type 74(4) after adding a new member to the plex. Any not obvious, or obvious, reasons? Seems to be in SMF/RMF. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No SMF 74(4)
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:32:26 -0800, Patrick Falcone patrick.falco...@verizon.net wrote: Can't seem to find type 74(4) after adding a new member to the plex. Any not obvious, or obvious, reasons? Seems to be in SMF/RMF. Doesn't that come from RMF III? Is RMFGAT running? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No SMF 74(4)
Yes, RMF III. 74(4) is required for the sysplex verification package that qualifies a customer for sysplex discount. We had to run RMFGAT on all LPARs long enough to gather the data. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zuri CHNA.COM To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Mainframe cc Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua Subject .edu Re: No SMF 74(4) 01/21/2009 08:39 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua .edu On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:32:26 -0800, Patrick Falcone patrick.falco...@verizon.net wrote: Can't seem to find type 74(4) after adding a new member to the plex. Any not obvious, or obvious, reasons? Seems to be in SMF/RMF. Doesn't that come from RMF III? Is RMFGAT running? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No SMF 74(4)
(@#*(*#E)! Thanks Mark and yes, right on Skip. From: Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com Subject: Re: No SMF 74(4) To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 4:39 PM On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:32:26 -0800, Patrick Falcone patrick.falco...@verizon.net wrote: Can't seem to find type 74(4) after adding a new member to the plex. Any not obvious, or obvious, reasons? Seems to be in SMF/RMF. Doesn't that come from RMF III? Is RMFGAT running? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No SMF 74(4)
Having stated that 74(4) is required for *all* LPARs, I need to back peddle a bit. As I understand the process, 74(4) is needed to establish the 'qualifying sysplex function' in terms of usage of the relevant structure. For example, if you claim GRS star as the qualifying function, then you need 74(4) to show that all purported sysplex members do indeed use ISGLOCK. If you have other nonmember LPARs running on any of the CECs in the mix--either monoplex members or members of a different sysplex--then it's not clear to me why you would need 74(4) records from the noncandidate LPARs. If an LPAR is not offered up for verification, then who cares what structures if any it uses? On the other hand, gathering 74(4) from *all* LPARs may in the end be easier than getting someone to sign off with data gathered selectively. I took the easy way out and submitted data from all LPARs. Such a wuss. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com Patrick Falcone patrick.falcone7 @VERIZON.NET To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Mainframe cc Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua Subject .edu Re: No SMF 74(4) 01/21/2009 09:44 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua .edu (@#*(*#E)! Thanks Mark and yes, right on Skip. From: Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com Subject: Re: No SMF 74(4) To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 4:39 PM On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:32:26 -0800, Patrick Falcone patrick.falco...@verizon.net wrote: Can't seem to find type 74(4) after adding a new member to the plex. Any not obvious, or obvious, reasons? Seems to be in SMF/RMF. Doesn't that come from RMF III? Is RMFGAT running? Mark -- Mark Zelden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
