OAM copying a platter
I have a question is there a way to make a copy of a Optical platter using OAM. We have 3995 optical drives. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OAM copying a platter
As far as I know the OAM MOVEVOL command is the only standard utility provided to change the location of a set of objects but that is a move of the objects not a copy. It would be possible to write a program to query the DB2 OAM tables and determine the names of the objects on the optical volume and use the OSREQ macro to Retrieve the objects and Store them in a different Storage Class or different Collection Name. Since OAM manages the optical storage I don't know that there is any way to control the volume onto which the object is stored so in effect you could copy the objects but you may not wind up actually copying everything from one volume to one new volume. So, it depends on your true requirement. If you just want to remove an optical disk and keep the objects, use MOVEVOL. Otherwise look to the OSREQ macro and write a program to do what you need. Chuck Arney illustro Systems International, LLC http://www.illustro.com Access 3270 data from anywhere with z/XML-Host Access 3270 apps from the web with z/Web-Host Access CMS minidisks from z/OS or z/VSE with CMSACCess Voice: 214-800-8900 X#0562 Fax: 214-451-6394 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This e-mail is private and may be confidential and is for the intended recipient only. If misdirected, please notify us by telephone and confirm that it has been deleted from your system and any copies destroyed. If you are not the intended recipient you are strictly prohibited from using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this e-mail or any information contained in it. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * We use reasonable measures to virus scan all E-mails leaving illustro but no warranty is given that this E-mail and any attachments are virus free. You should ensure you have adequate measures in place for your own virus checking. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Michael Saraco > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:10 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: OAM copying a platter > > I have a question is there a way to make a copy of a Optical platter using > OAM. We have 3995 optical drives. > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OAM copying a platter
Chuck I need to copy the PLATTER with out the data being deleted off of the source. I have 2 thoughts to see if you think they would work. 1. EJECT a volume issue the RECOVERY command for that volume using BACKUP2? Would the ejected volume be able to be added back into the library? 2. EJECT a PLATTER turn the PROTECT on on the case put it back in the library then use the MOVEVOL command. Would it create the COPY successfully and error with the protect on trying to delete the data leaving to PLATTERS with the same DATA? Michael Saraco Systems Consultant Baer Consulting, Inc. Work - 507-526-2566 Cell- 507-525-0530 From: Chuck Arney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Date: 04/16/2008 04:46 PM Subject: Re: OAM copying a platter As far as I know the OAM MOVEVOL command is the only standard utility provided to change the location of a set of objects but that is a move of the objects not a copy. It would be possible to write a program to query the DB2 OAM tables and determine the names of the objects on the optical volume and use the OSREQ macro to Retrieve the objects and Store them in a different Storage Class or different Collection Name. Since OAM manages the optical storage I don't know that there is any way to control the volume onto which the object is stored so in effect you could copy the objects but you may not wind up actually copying everything from one volume to one new volume. So, it depends on your true requirement. If you just want to remove an optical disk and keep the objects, use MOVEVOL. Otherwise look to the OSREQ macro and write a program to do what you need. Chuck Arney illustro Systems International, LLC http://www.illustro.com Access 3270 data from anywhere with z/XML-Host Access 3270 apps from the web with z/Web-Host Access CMS minidisks from z/OS or z/VSE with CMSACCess Voice: 214-800-8900 X#0562 Fax: 214-451-6394 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This e-mail is private and may be confidential and is for the intended recipient only. If misdirected, please notify us by telephone and confirm that it has been deleted from your system and any copies destroyed. If you are not the intended recipient you are strictly prohibited from using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this e-mail or any information contained in it. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * We use reasonable measures to virus scan all E-mails leaving illustro but no warranty is given that this E-mail and any attachments are virus free. You should ensure you have adequate measures in place for your own virus checking. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Michael Saraco > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:10 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: OAM copying a platter > > I have a question is there a way to make a copy of a Optical platter using > OAM. We have 3995 optical drives. > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OAM copying a platter
One problem you will have even if one of those techniques work is with duplicate object names. You can not have duplicate names within the same Collection Name. I think you will need to write a program to copy the objects to a different Collection or store duplicate objects with a different object name in the same Collection. Chuck Arney illustro Systems International, LLC http://www.illustro.com Access 3270 data from anywhere with z/XML-Host Access 3270 apps from the web with z/Web-Host Access CMS minidisks from z/OS or z/VSE with CMSACCess Voice: 214-800-8900 X#0562 Fax: 214-451-6394 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This e-mail is private and may be confidential and is for the intended recipient only. If misdirected, please notify us by telephone and confirm that it has been deleted from your system and any copies destroyed. If you are not the intended recipient you are strictly prohibited from using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this e-mail or any information contained in it. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * We use reasonable measures to virus scan all E-mails leaving illustro but no warranty is given that this E-mail and any attachments are virus free. You should ensure you have adequate measures in place for your own virus checking. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Michael Saraco > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:12 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: OAM copying a platter > > Chuck > > I need to copy the PLATTER with out the data being deleted off of the > source. I have 2 thoughts to see if you think they would work. > 1. EJECT a volume issue the RECOVERY command for that volume using > BACKUP2? Would the ejected volume be able to be added back into the > library? > > 2. EJECT a PLATTER turn the PROTECT on on the case put it back in the > library then use the MOVEVOL command. Would it create the COPY > successfully and error with the protect on trying to delete the data > leaving to PLATTERS with the same DATA? > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OAM copying a platter
Michael, > I need to copy the PLATTER with out the data being deleted off of the > source. I have 2 thoughts to see if you think they would work. > 1. EJECT a volume issue the RECOVERY command for that volume using > BACKUP2? Would the ejected volume be able to be added back into the > library? > > 2. EJECT a PLATTER turn the PROTECT on on the case put it back in the > library then use the MOVEVOL command. Would it create the COPY > successfully and error with the protect on trying to delete the data > leaving to PLATTERS with the same DATA? > What are you planning to do with the original platter? It would be virtually unreadable if you lose where objects (segments) are located on the platter. Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OAM copying a platter
We are trying to get a copy of a platter from one site and test it at another site to test D.R. What I thought was using the RECOVERY command I could take the original to test. Michael Saraco Systems Consultant Baer Consulting, Inc. Work - 507-526-2566 Cell- 507-525-0530 From: John Kington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Date: 04/18/2008 07:49 AM Subject: Re: OAM copying a platter Michael, > I need to copy the PLATTER with out the data being deleted off of the > source. I have 2 thoughts to see if you think they would work. > 1. EJECT a volume issue the RECOVERY command for that volume using > BACKUP2? Would the ejected volume be able to be added back into the > library? > > 2. EJECT a PLATTER turn the PROTECT on on the case put it back in the > library then use the MOVEVOL command. Would it create the COPY > successfully and error with the protect on trying to delete the data > leaving to PLATTERS with the same DATA? > What are you planning to do with the original platter? It would be virtually unreadable if you lose where objects (segments) are located on the platter. Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OAM copying a platter
> We are trying to get a copy of a platter from one site and test it at > another site to test D.R. What I thought was using the RECOVERY command I > could take the original to test. > Is that not the reason for backup2? Doing a movevol or recovery will cause you to lose track of the objects on the existing platter. These are intended to free up or retire a platter. I don't know of anything that would let you clone an optical platter which seems to be what you want to do. Sorry, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OAM copying a platter
BACKUP2 is tape. Michael Saraco Systems Consultant Baer Consulting, Inc. Work - 507-526-2566 Cell- 507-525-0530 From: John Kington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Date: 04/18/2008 09:47 AM Subject: Re: OAM copying a platter > We are trying to get a copy of a platter from one site and test it at > another site to test D.R. What I thought was using the RECOVERY command I > could take the original to test. > Is that not the reason for backup2? Doing a movevol or recovery will cause you to lose track of the objects on the existing platter. These are intended to free up or retire a platter. I don't know of anything that would let you clone an optical platter which seems to be what you want to do. Sorry, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OAM copying a platter
Like John, I don't believe there is any way to make an exact copy of a volume unless you used an offline optical drive connected to a PC or something. You can't use OAM to do it because what you want to do would create duplicate volume labels and duplicate object names. I assume at the DR site you will be restoring your production OAM DB2 tables. Create some test objects that won't be needed for your production system and take that disk to DR with you. Chuck Arney illustro Systems International, LLC http://www.illustro.com Access 3270 data from anywhere with z/XML-Host Access 3270 apps from the web with z/Web-Host Access CMS minidisks from z/OS or z/VSE with CMSACCess Voice: 214-800-8900 X#0562 Fax: 214-451-6394 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This e-mail is private and may be confidential and is for the intended recipient only. If misdirected, please notify us by telephone and confirm that it has been deleted from your system and any copies destroyed. If you are not the intended recipient you are strictly prohibited from using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this e-mail or any information contained in it. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * We use reasonable measures to virus scan all E-mails leaving illustro but no warranty is given that this E-mail and any attachments are virus free. You should ensure you have adequate measures in place for your own virus checking. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Michael Saraco > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:51 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: OAM copying a platter > > BACKUP2 is tape. > > Michael Saraco > Systems Consultant > Baer Consulting, Inc. > Work - 507-526-2566 > Cell- 507-525-0530 > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OAM copying a platter
> BACKUP2 is tape. > That is you DR copy, no? Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OAM copying a platter
Could I take the tape do a recovery command at the DR site and create a platter? Michael Saraco Systems Consultant Baer Consulting, Inc. Work - 507-526-2566 Cell- 507-525-0530 From: John Kington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Date: 04/18/2008 10:12 AM Subject: Re: OAM copying a platter > BACKUP2 is tape. > That is you DR copy, no? Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OAM copying a platter
> Could I take the tape do a recovery command at the DR site and create a > platter? > Yes. Read the OAM Planning, Installation and Storage Administration Guide for details on the RECOVER command. Unless you take all tapes, you will need to determine which tape(s) you will need. Again, read the PISA guide. Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OAM copying a platter
> > Could I take the tape do a recovery command at the DR site and create a > > platter? > > > Yes. Read the OAM Planning, Installation and Storage Administration Guide > for details on the RECOVER command. Unless you take all tapes, you will > need to determine which tape(s) you will need. Again, read the PISA guide. > Regards, > John > Oops. That should be recovery not recover. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
