OMVS INIT WAIT
Hi In our "production" LPAR I had a terrible experience(you can't restart the system, it has worked 10 minutes before ) After some DISK errors I made an IPL , but TCPIP etc. has not started , and after a while of panic I have seen the OMVS is in init wait : OMVS 000E ETC/INIT WAIT In the third attempt, the OMVS (and everything) has started normally. We have every file system in zFS. I guess the OMVS zFS made the recovery ? If it would give a message about this ... -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OMVS INIT WAIT
Depending on how you have the ZFS address space option setup. ZFS files need to do recovery if errors/verifications are required and require RDRW. There was an PTF about 1 yrs ago that allowed romount_recovery=on option to be set in the IOEPRMxx, to perform this task even if the file system was mounted as READ. Thanks Ms. Terri E. Shaffer terri.e.shaf...@jpmchase.com Engineer J.P.Morgan Chase & Co. GTI DCT ECS Core Services zSoftware Group / Emerging Technologies Office: # 614-213-3467 Cell: # 412-519-2592 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: OMVS INIT WAIT Hi In our "production" LPAR I had a terrible experience(you can't restart the system, it has worked 10 minutes before ) After some DISK errors I made an IPL , but TCPIP etc. has not started , and after a while of panic I have seen the OMVS is in init wait : OMVS 000E ETC/INIT WAIT In the third attempt, the OMVS (and everything) has started normally. We have every file system in zFS. I guess the OMVS zFS made the recovery ? If it would give a message about this ... -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Please refer to http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to European legal entities. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OMVS INIT WAIT
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:12:21 +0200, Miklos Szigetvari wrote: >Hi > >In our "production" LPAR I had a terrible experience(you can't restart >the system, it has worked 10 minutes before ) > >After some DISK errors I made an IPL , but TCPIP etc. has not started , >and after a while of panic I have seen the >OMVS is in init wait : >OMVS 000E ETC/INIT WAIT >In the third attempt, the OMVS (and everything) has started normally. >We have every file system in zFS. >I guess the OMVS zFS made the recovery ? >If it would give a message about this ... > I thought zFS did write these types of messages. Did you attempt to take any console dumps during the time? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OMVS INIT WAIT
Miklos wrote: ...snip In our "production" LPAR I had a terrible experience(you can't restart the system, it has worked 10 minutes before ) After some DISK errors I made an IPL , but TCPIP etc. has not started , and after a while of panic I have seen the OMVS is in init wait : OMVS 000E ETC/INIT WAIT In the third attempt, the OMVS (and everything) has started normally. We have every file system in zFS. I guess the OMVS zFS made the recovery ? If it would give a message about this ... ...snip Miklos, you must be aware that when ZFS tries a restart after some system failure (or sometimes when ZFS filesystem wasn't properly closed...) it discovers this situation and want to be sure that original owner(s) aren't still in charge of filesystem. For this, ZFS waits for about 90 seconds (per filesystem) awaiting for previous owner activity on filesystem (internal timestamps are updated in case of activity on filesystem). This is for EVERY ZFS filesystem; as per your configuration (all ZFS fsys) you may expect long delays on OMVS restart after failure or abnormal end of original ZFS owner. Hope this helps. Ciao. _ Paolo Cacciari IBM Italia S.p.A. Business Continuity and Resiliency Services, IBM Global Services - South Region, EMEA IBM Italia S.p.A. Sede Legale: Circonvallazione Idroscalo - 20090 Segrate (MI) Cap. Soc. euro 384.506.359,00 C. F. e Reg. Imprese MI 01442240030 - Partita IVA 10914660153 Società soggetta all?attività di direzione e coordinamento di International Business Machines Corporation (Salvo che sia diversamente indicato sopra / Unless stated otherwise above) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OMVS INIT WAIT
Hi Thank you, I understand this. I would like to have some message if this kind of wait occurs . I have noticed that something wrong, as I got some FSS messages . Paolo Cacciari wrote: Miklos wrote: ...snip In our "production" LPAR I had a terrible experience(you can't restart the system, it has worked 10 minutes before ) After some DISK errors I made an IPL , but TCPIP etc. has not started , and after a while of panic I have seen the OMVS is in init wait : OMVS 000E ETC/INIT WAIT In the third attempt, the OMVS (and everything) has started normally. We have every file system in zFS. I guess the OMVS zFS made the recovery ? If it would give a message about this ... ...snip Miklos, you must be aware that when ZFS tries a restart after some system failure (or sometimes when ZFS filesystem wasn't properly closed...) it discovers this situation and want to be sure that original owner(s) aren't still in charge of filesystem. For this, ZFS waits for about 90 seconds (per filesystem) awaiting for previous owner activity on filesystem (internal timestamps are updated in case of activity on filesystem). This is for EVERY ZFS filesystem; as per your configuration (all ZFS fsys) you may expect long delays on OMVS restart after failure or abnormal end of original ZFS owner. Hope this helps. Ciao. _ Paolo Cacciari IBM Italia S.p.A. Business Continuity and Resiliency Services, IBM Global Services - South Region, EMEA IBM Italia S.p.A. Sede Legale: Circonvallazione Idroscalo - 20090 Segrate (MI) Cap. Soc. euro 384.506.359,00 C. F. e Reg. Imprese MI 01442240030 - Partita IVA 10914660153 Società soggetta all?attività di direzione e coordinamento di International Business Machines Corporation (Salvo che sia diversamente indicato sopra / Unless stated otherwise above) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
