Re: 2097?
>>The z9EC model number is 2097. >No, it isn't. The z9EC model number is 2094; the z9BC number is 2096. My bad. I can only attribute it to a bad memory and being off the job for 8 months. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > > The z9EC model number is 2097. That's interesting Our z9EC claims to be a 2094. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:20:22 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >The z9EC model number is 2097. No, it isn't. The z9EC model number is 2094; the z9BC number is 2096. -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:32:43 -0800, Lars Poulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Tom Moulder wrote: >> How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097? It shows up as a >> z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU). >> >> What is it and how does it stack up against all the other z9 machines? > >Slide number 10 in this presentation should answer your questions >in some detail: >http://www.ibm.com/br/systems/z/events/2006/explorers2006/downloads/ibm _jose_fadel_-_system_z9_business_class.pdf > >The heading says: z9 BC model S07. > >Google is your friend! > >/ Lars Poulsen > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The presentation referenced in the above link (mind the broken URL) contains a typographical error with the 2097 reference as z9 S07 BC. One of the questionable benefits of the web and Internet searches. Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:10:10 -0600, Tom Moulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CPC NAME = ZHE Hmmm... ZHÈ is a Chinese word for "this". So maybe it's just self identifying. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
>On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:10:10 -0600, Tom Moulder wrote: > > CPC NAME = ZHE > z/HE might be a name used if the new box was closer to the size of a washing machine than a refrigerator; my washer is a High Efficiency model (HE)... so why not the next mainframe? (One reason not to go that route might be that the HE washers use very little SOA(P). Yes, the are environmentally friendly - very "green" (low water, lower power, low detergent) but isn't IBM Global trying to sell mostly SOAP services?) -- Tom Schmidt (Nope, no NDA... just speculation.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
>And our z9BC claims to be a 2096-S07-T03. I googled and IBM-searched, but I got no answers. If somebody did, could they please send me either a link or their search arguments? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
-D M=CPU IEE174I 02.14.36 DISPLAY M 160 PROCESSOR STATUS ID CPU SERIAL 00 + *02097 01 + *02097 02 - 03 - 04 - 05 - 06 - 07 - 08 - 09 - 0A - 0B - 0C - 0D - 0E - 0F - 10 - 11 N 12 N 13 N 14 N 15 N 16 N 17 N 18 N 19 N 1A N 1B N 1C N 1D N 1E N CPC ND = 002097.E40.IBM.02.000* CPC SI = 2097.719.IBM.02.000* CPC ID = 00 CPC NAME = ZHE -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blaicher, Chris Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 2097? Can you cut and paste the display, please? Chris Blaicher -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Moulder Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: 2097? How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097? It shows up as a z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU). What is it and how does it stack up against all the other z9 machines? Tom Moulder -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1273 - Release Date: 2/12/2008 9:31 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1273 - Release Date: 2/12/2008 9:31 AM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
Tom Moulder wrote: How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097? It shows up as a z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU). What is it and how does it stack up against all the other z9 machines? Slide number 10 in this presentation should answer your questions in some detail: http://www.ibm.com/br/systems/z/events/2006/explorers2006/downloads/ibm_jose_fadel_-_system_z9_business_class.pdf The heading says: z9 BC model S07. Google is your friend! / Lars Poulsen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
Can you cut and paste the display, please? Chris Blaicher -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Moulder Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: 2097? How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097? It shows up as a z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU). What is it and how does it stack up against all the other z9 machines? Tom Moulder -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
The z9EC model number is 2097. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -Original Message- From: Tom Moulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:09:22 To:IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: 2097? How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097? It shows up as a z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU). What is it and how does it stack up against all the other z9 machines? Tom Moulder No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1273 - Release Date: 2/12/2008 9:31 AM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 15:09 -0600, Tom Moulder wrote: > How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097? It shows up as a > z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU). It just might not be a z9 ... Now tell us Tom, how did you get hold of one of those ... already ???. Looks like a (public) "d'oh moment" Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:44:43 -0600, Chase, John wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL >> >> The z9EC model number is 2097. > >That's interesting Our z9EC claims to be a 2094. > And our z9BC claims to be a 2096-S07-T03. What has the world come to when you can't even trust the machines ??? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:09:22 -0600, Tom Moulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097? It shows up as a >z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU). > The ZHE is the CPC (or processor name) which you define via the HCD so unless you did this then it could well be the factory default. Seb. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
The company I was previously associated with received one of these boxes in mid December as part of an early support program. I saw very few documents regarding this machine but it was listed as ZHE. It is supposedly the next generation of IBM mainframe. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
z9 EC has modes S08, S18 etc but the machine type is always 2094 z9 BC has models R07 and S07, machine type is always 2096 so every z9 EC reports 2094 and every z9BC reports 2096 Then you have capacity settings, like 508, 715, 754 etc for z9 EC and like A01, Q03 etc for z9 BC. They are also reported in D M=CPU Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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>> Life would become _exceedingly_ interesting if either PSI or T3 (or both) applied for an injunction to prevent IBM from changing its product lineup until the outstanding legal issues are resolved. I can't see that happening. IBM has already proven its willingness to joint projects with credible partners(like SUN) that are in it for the long haul and will not drop the ball when everything goes 128bit just because no-one will lend them the money to do the R&D, still wonder why a certain company couldn't raise the interest amongst itself to stay in the mainframe race. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Payne Sent: 14 Februarie 2008 03:43 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: 2097? I'm glad I didn't post this - I'm a bit bored with having my throat jumped down. First of all, some systems are "soft". Flex-ES and Hercules could be trivially modded to store such values. Secondly, even if '2097' were the designator of some future IBM system, it doesn't follow that this is a real one - it might easily be a current or earlier generation patched in microcode to see what the software does. Life would become _exceedingly_ interesting if either PSI or T3 (or both) applied for an injunction to prevent IBM from changing its product lineup until the outstanding legal issues are resolved. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co.uk +44 7833 654 800 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Elavon Financial Services Limited Registered in Ireland: Number 418442 Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland Directors: Robert Abele (USA), John Collins, Terrance Dolan (USA), Pamela Joseph (USA), Declan Lynch, John McNally, Malcolm Towlson Elavon Financial Services Limited, trading as Elavon, is regulated by the Financial Regulator -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
Well, according to the announcement today, a 2097 is a z10 EC. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
Yes, and so somebody who did not trust D M=CPU can trust it again... On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:37 AM, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, according to the announcement today, a 2097 is a z10 EC. > > -- > John McKown > Senior Systems Programmer > HealthMarkets > Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage > Administrative Services Group > Information Technology > > The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged > and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are > not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is > strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal > offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the > sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing > it. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html