Re: A Single pack system?

2011-05-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
In , on 05/06/2011
   at 07:44 AM, Larry Macioce  said:

>I know in older versions of MVS this was possible, but with the ever
>expanding systems vols, is this still possible?

That depends on what volume size your D/R site supports.
 
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Re: A Single pack system?

2011-05-06 Thread Larry Macioce 
Thanks Mark, thats exactly what I neeeded, your a genius

mace 

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Re: A Single pack system?

2011-05-06 Thread Mark Zelden 
On Fri, 6 May 2011 07:54:55 -0500, Larry Macioce  wrote:

>Rob...thanks...lol
>
>Mark could you expand on what was needed and what size pack you use?
>
>Roberto, I saw it a long time ago, but I believe it was in the 2.10 days(or
>earlier), but thank you
>
>Mace
>

If you look at the source (job streams) on my web site / CBT File 434, the
requirements are in there.

http://www.mzelden.com/mvsfiles/onepakz8.txt
http://www.mzelden.com/mvsfiles/twopakz8.txt

The onepack system, with no z/OS UNIX and TCP/IP, fits on a single
3390-3 volume.  The Twopack system, which includes TCP/IP and
(its requisite) z/OS UNIX, will still fix on 2 3390-3s (barely).   

I use the "twopack" version, but build it on a 3390-9.   If you have a mod-9
available, there should be plenty of space to build it and even enlarge
the spool if you want or include some extra software if you need it.
For example, encryption, OAM, EMC SRDF, etc. 

Regards,

Mark
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Re: A Single pack system?

2011-05-06 Thread Jay Howard 
As others have already stated, that is how we perform DR. We restore a one
pack system that has just what we need to restore our production volumes.
It works well.
On May 6, 2011 8:44 AM, "Larry Macioce"  wrote:

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Re: A Single pack system?

2011-05-06 Thread Mark Jacobs 

On 05/06/11 08:54, Larry Macioce wrote:

Rob...thanks...lol

Mark could you expand on what was needed and what size pack you use?

Roberto, I saw it a long time ago, but I believe it was in the 2.10 days(or
earlier), but thank you

Mace

   


I used Mark Zeldon's processes as a building block for my first go 
around, but I have my own processes down now. I'm rebuilding our 
bootstrap environment at the zOS 1.12 level right now using a 3390-27 
but I was able to cram almost everything on a mod-9 under z/OS 1.10. 
(JES2 Spool was on it's own volume)


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Re: A Single pack system?

2011-05-06 Thread Roberto Halais 
Check it out. I think it's still there.

http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Larry Macioce  wrote:

> Rob...thanks...lol
>
> Mark could you expand on what was needed and what size pack you use?
>
> Roberto, I saw it a long time ago, but I believe it was in the 2.10 days(or
> earlier), but thank you
>
> Mace
>
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Re: A Single pack system?

2011-05-06 Thread Darth Keller 
We use a mod-27, but it's only about 50% full.
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Re: A Single pack system?

2011-05-06 Thread Larry Macioce 
Rob...thanks...lol

Mark could you expand on what was needed and what size pack you use?

Roberto, I saw it a long time ago, but I believe it was in the 2.10 days(or
earlier), but thank you

Mace

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Re: A Single pack system?

2011-05-06 Thread Roberto Halais 
Check Mark Zelden's web site. He has (or used to) a single pack creation
procedure.

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Larry Macioce  wrote:

> I'm thinking in DR terms now.
> I know in older versions of MVS this was possible, but with the ever
> expanding systems vols, is this still possible?
> I think it would be much easier and quicker to init/restore 1 pack then run
> inits/restores to the real volumes instead of having to do this for all
> system volumes.
> Thanks
> Mace
>
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Re: A Single pack system?

2011-05-06 Thread Mark Jacobs 

On 05/06/11 08:44, Larry Macioce wrote:

I'm thinking in DR terms now.
I know in older versions of MVS this was possible, but with the ever
expanding systems vols, is this still possible?
I think it would be much easier and quicker to init/restore 1 pack then run
inits/restores to the real volumes instead of having to do this for all
system volumes.
Thanks
Mace

   


We do exactly that. We have a one volume zOS boot strap environment 
built with only the pieces of zOS necessary to restore our encrypted 
backup tapes. Once all our volumes are restored we ipl our production 
environments.


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Re: A Single pack system?

2011-05-06 Thread Rob Schramm 
Sure just use a mod-54's  ;-)

Rob Schramm

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Larry Macioce  wrote:

> I'm thinking in DR terms now.
> I know in older versions of MVS this was possible, but with the ever
> expanding systems vols, is this still possible?
> I think it would be much easier and quicker to init/restore 1 pack then run
> inits/restores to the real volumes instead of having to do this for all
> system volumes.
> Thanks
> Mace
>
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