Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On 15 Apr 2009 14:17:53 -0700, w...@rubin-software.de (Wolfgang
Schäfer) wrote:

>Hello Howard,
>your answers are below the quote (at least in this case) ... and yes, I had 
>to scroll down to read your answer.

I only quoted a tiny bit (most everybody agrees that some quoting is
good).   When I read my message, my reply started in line 10.  Did
your copy include a huge header?   That can probably be turned off.

We need to make some assumptions about our readers' software.

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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-16 Thread z/OS scheduler
Mark,

Try xmitip, we use it to do our scrt report. It is a long time since I
refreshed it, and cannot tell you on which tape it lives, but it even has a
tso panel in which you can do the same as batch, the formats, if I remember
- already signed off for the week, includes pdf xls. Ours come as a comma
delimited file that just flies thru to IBM with no modifications, and we
havan't had any comebacks for months. Normally forget to upgrade. My bad :)




2009/4/14 Mark Steely 

> We are z/os V1R9. I am having a problem when I send a e-mail with an
> attachment through batch. When IBM receives the email the attachment is
> showing up in the body of the email and not a separate attachment. We
> have a proc which wraps the required stuff around the parms supplied for
> an e-mail (from, to, attachment, body, CC, etc). This output is
> pickup by SMTP and sent to our email server to be sent. This process
> works as design internally and haven't heard any problems on externally
> transmitted email using this process except for the email I send to IBM
> to process the SCRT (sub capacity reporting tool) data.
>
> Does anyone have a process that performs a batch e-mail process which
> they use to send this type of report to IBM.
>
>
> Thank You
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Steely
I am receiving the following messages after installation on the IVP job
steps:

IRX0250E System abend code 0C4, reason code 0017.  
IRX0253E Abend in external function SOCKET.
XMITIP:   XMITIP Application level: 09.03

Any help would be appreciated. 

Thank You

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Behalf Of Lionel B Dyck
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:13 PM
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Subject: Re: Batch E-Mail

Mark - it sounds like perhaps the mime headers may not be setup properly
to be received by IBM. When I was developing XMITIP I ran into several
issues with file attachments arriving as inline until I discovered
something (long lost in the cobwebs).

A suggestion - get a copy of xmitip (http://www.lbdsoftware.com) and use
it in 'debug' mode (use keyword debug) and it will generate a report of
all the appropriate smtp statements. You can then use that to compare to
what you are generating and update your code if you detect a mismatch.

hope this helps

Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist
Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise
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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Wolfgang Schäfer

Hello Howard,
your answers are below the quote (at least in this case) ... and yes, I had 
to scroll down to read your answer.


Cheers
Wolfgang
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On 15 Apr 2009 12:32:05 -0700, patrick.oke...@wamu.net (Patrick
O'Keefe) wrote:


Ah.  Curmudgeon bait.  And bait I cannot resist!

Someone that wants to put a graphic letterhead/foot on his
message should expect to have it go unseen.   (By "it" I mean
graphics, but I'm not far from meaning the whole email.)


There are lots of ways to have one's message unseen.   The primary one
for me is to quote so much that we have to page down to read one's
reply.

If a message starts off showing me that the poster was not interested
enough to proofread - I will accept his evaluation of the value of the
post without continuing.



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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>There are lots of ways to have one's message unseen.   The primary one for me 
>is to quote so much that we have to page down to read one's reply.

That one I agree with.
Especially, using a BlackBerry.
If I have to page down to see a response, I don't.
In general, unless it's short (like this one), my responses are at the 
beginning.

-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Howard Brazee
On 15 Apr 2009 12:32:05 -0700, patrick.oke...@wamu.net (Patrick
O'Keefe) wrote:

>Ah.  Curmudgeon bait.  And bait I cannot resist!
>
>Someone that wants to put a graphic letterhead/foot on his 
>message should expect to have it go unseen.   (By "it" I mean
>graphics, but I'm not far from meaning the whole email.)

There are lots of ways to have one's message unseen.   The primary one
for me is to quote so much that we have to page down to read one's
reply.

If a message starts off showing me that the poster was not interested
enough to proofread - I will accept his evaluation of the value of the
post without continuing.

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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:30:33 -0500, Paul Gilmartin 
 wrote:

>...
>Yah, but if someone wants to put a graphic letterhead/foot
>on his message, he'd prefer that you not need to open it
>with an external viewer.
>...

Ah.  Curmudgeon bait.  And bait I cannot resist!

Someone that wants to put a graphic letterhead/foot on his 
message should expect to have it go unseen.   (By "it" I mean
graphics, but I'm not far from meaning the whole email.)

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Mark - it sounds like perhaps the mime headers may not be setup properly 
to be received by IBM. When I was developing XMITIP I ran into several 
issues with file attachments arriving as inline until I discovered 
something (long lost in the cobwebs).

A suggestion - get a copy of xmitip (http://www.lbdsoftware.com) and use 
it in 'debug' mode (use keyword debug) and it will generate a report of 
all the appropriate smtp statements. You can then use that to compare to 
what you are generating and update your code if you detect a mismatch.

hope this helps

Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist 
Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering 
KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 
925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: lionel.b.d...@kp.org 
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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:59:37 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote:

>I may be wrong, but I think it is up to the receiving email engine to open 
>attachments in line or not. At least I am aware of that option and have 
>fiddled with it from time to time on various email engines.
>
>We use the facility extensively to send reports.
>
>From MS Outlook Help: "If the message format is Rich Text Format (RTF), 
>attachments will appear in the body of the message. Even though the file 
>appears to be embedded in the message, it is actually still a separate 
>attachment."
>
>Just gotta love MS products automatically opening attachments, perhaps 'the' 
>most popular attack vector.
>
Yah, but if someone wants to put a graphic letterhead/foot
on his message, he'd prefer that you not need to open it
with an external viewer.

>From RFC 2183 (Updates: 1806):

   In the extended BNF notation of [RFC 822], the Content-Disposition
   header field is defined as follows:

 disposition := "Content-Disposition" ":"
disposition-type
*(";" disposition-parm)

 disposition-type := "inline"
   / "attachment"
   / extension-token
   ; values are not case-sensitive

 disposition-parm := filename-parm
   / creation-date-parm
   / modification-date-parm
   / read-date-parm
   / size-parm
   / parameter
...

>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
>Mark Steely
>Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 4:45 PM
>
>We are z/os V1R9. I am having a problem when I send a e-mail with an
>attachment through batch. When IBM receives the email the attachment is
>showing up in the body of the email and not a separate attachment. We
>have a proc which wraps the required stuff around the parms supplied for
>an e-mail (from, to, attachment, body, CC, etc). This output is
>pickup by SMTP and sent to our email server to be sent. This process
>works as design internally and haven't heard any problems on externally
>transmitted email using this process except for the email I send to IBM
>to process the SCRT (sub capacity reporting tool) data.
>
>Does anyone have a process that performs a batch e-mail process which
>they use to send this type of report to IBM.
>
Look at your raw message source.  What Content-disposition:
do you have?  I don't know the default.  Read the RFCs.

-- gil

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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-14 Thread Hal Merritt
I may be wrong, but I think it is up to the receiving email engine to open 
attachments in line or not. At least I am aware of that option and have fiddled 
with it from time to time on various email engines.  

We use the facility extensively to send reports. 

>From MS Outlook Help: "If the message format is Rich Text Format (RTF), 
>attachments will appear in the body of the message. Even though the file 
>appears to be embedded in the message, it is actually still a separate 
>attachment."

Just gotta love MS products automatically opening attachments, perhaps 'the' 
most popular attack vector.   

HTH

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Mark Steely
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 4:45 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Batch E-Mail

We are z/os V1R9. I am having a problem when I send a e-mail with an
attachment through batch. When IBM receives the email the attachment is
showing up in the body of the email and not a separate attachment. We
have a proc which wraps the required stuff around the parms supplied for
an e-mail (from, to, attachment, body, CC, etc). This output is
pickup by SMTP and sent to our email server to be sent. This process
works as design internally and haven't heard any problems on externally
transmitted email using this process except for the email I send to IBM
to process the SCRT (sub capacity reporting tool) data. 
 
Does anyone have a process that performs a batch e-mail process which
they use to send this type of report to IBM. 
 
 
Thank You 


   
   
 
   
   
  
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