Re: I/O gen problems
Check to see if the LPAR is 'connected' to the device the same as the LPAR you did the D M command. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: I/O gen problems I have created a new I/O def file through HCD. I then use option 2.6.1 to activate new hardware and software configuration. Changing test to no, write IOCDS yes, and switch IOCDS for next por yes. Everything goes well and I see my new devices via the d m=dev command. I then go to bring up an inactive LPAR and I get a quick load failed message. The message generated in the hardware messages is "load address not defined to LPAR". The detail of the message instruct me to validate the address and then check the I/O config file. I check the I/O config file (IOCDS A1) and the addresses of the dasd devices are all there. What could be wrong? The other things I know... the CHPIDs are online and operational. I dynamically switched back to my A0 / IODF00 combination and I get the same error. TIA, Tracy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: I/O gen problems
Where do you define the LOAD address, through HCD 2.11.I. i.e. the LOAD profile for the LPAR has USE DYNAMIC address? Is the (correct) address defined in the LOAD profile? Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 08:06 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: I/O gen problems I have created a new I/O def file through HCD. I then use option 2.6.1 to activate new hardware and software configuration. Changing test to no, write IOCDS yes, and switch IOCDS for next por yes. Everything goes well and I see my new devices via the d m=dev command. I then go to bring up an inactive LPAR and I get a quick load failed message. The message generated in the hardware messages is "load address not defined to LPAR". The detail of the message instruct me to validate the address and then check the I/O config file. I check the I/O config file (IOCDS A1) and the addresses of the dasd devices are all there. What could be wrong? The other things I know... the CHPIDs are online and operational. I dynamically switched back to my A0 / IODF00 combination and I get the same error. TIA, Tracy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: I/O gen problems
I use the HMC to manage my load parameters simply by selecting my lpar and going to the Operational panel and using "load". I have never used the 2.11.i screen before, does it pre-populate the load screen at the HMC? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Field, Alan C. Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: I/O gen problems Where do you define the LOAD address, through HCD 2.11.I. i.e. the LOAD profile for the LPAR has USE DYNAMIC address? Is the (correct) address defined in the LOAD profile? Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 08:06 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: I/O gen problems I have created a new I/O def file through HCD. I then use option 2.6.1 to activate new hardware and software configuration. Changing test to no, write IOCDS yes, and switch IOCDS for next por yes. Everything goes well and I see my new devices via the d m=dev command. I then go to bring up an inactive LPAR and I get a quick load failed message. The message generated in the hardware messages is "load address not defined to LPAR". The detail of the message instruct me to validate the address and then check the I/O config file. I check the I/O config file (IOCDS A1) and the addresses of the dasd devices are all there. What could be wrong? The other things I know... the CHPIDs are online and operational. I dynamically switched back to my A0 / IODF00 combination and I get the same error. TIA, Tracy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: I/O gen problems
I am not sure what you mean by connected. The system I do the d m command on is the only lpar active at the moment (prod) and the devl lpar is what I am trying to start. The dynamically activated IOCDS does contain the lpar devl and the devices, 1500 for 178, are defined as shared. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: I/O gen problems Check to see if the LPAR is 'connected' to the device the same as the LPAR you did the D M command. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: I/O gen problems I have created a new I/O def file through HCD. I then use option 2.6.1 to activate new hardware and software configuration. Changing test to no, write IOCDS yes, and switch IOCDS for next por yes. Everything goes well and I see my new devices via the d m=dev command. I then go to bring up an inactive LPAR and I get a quick load failed message. The message generated in the hardware messages is "load address not defined to LPAR". The detail of the message instruct me to validate the address and then check the I/O config file. I check the I/O config file (IOCDS A1) and the addresses of the dasd devices are all there. What could be wrong? The other things I know... the CHPIDs are online and operational. I dynamically switched back to my A0 / IODF00 combination and I get the same error. TIA, Tracy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: I/O gen problems
Are you sure that the IPL device has the devl LPAR defined in it's Device Candidate List (if a list exists for the device)? Are the channels that are connected to the control unit that controls the device defined to devl? >>> "Adams, Tracy" 11/4/2009 9:40 AM >>> I am not sure what you mean by connected. The system I do the d m command on is the only lpar active at the moment (prod) and the devl lpar is what I am trying to start. The dynamically activated IOCDS does contain the lpar devl and the devices, 1500 for 178, are defined as shared. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: I/O gen problems Check to see if the LPAR is 'connected' to the device the same as the LPAR you did the D M command. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: I/O gen problems I have created a new I/O def file through HCD. I then use option 2.6.1 to activate new hardware and software configuration. Changing test to no, write IOCDS yes, and switch IOCDS for next por yes. Everything goes well and I see my new devices via the d m=dev command. I then go to bring up an inactive LPAR and I get a quick load failed message. The message generated in the hardware messages is "load address not defined to LPAR". The detail of the message instruct me to validate the address and then check the I/O config file. I check the I/O config file (IOCDS A1) and the addresses of the dasd devices are all there. What could be wrong? The other things I know... the CHPIDs are online and operational. I dynamically switched back to my A0 / IODF00 combination and I get the same error. TIA, Tracy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: I/O gen problems
No, HCD doesn't populate the IPL address. In the LOAD profile on the HMC you either specify the IPL device address or check the DYNAMIC box. Checking the DYNAMIC box uses the IPL address defined in HCD. My initial response wasn't that clear - Check the IPL device address in the LOAD profile. Is it correct? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 08:37 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: I/O gen problems I use the HMC to manage my load parameters simply by selecting my lpar and going to the Operational panel and using "load". I have never used the 2.11.i screen before, does it pre-populate the load screen at the HMC? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Field, Alan C. Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: I/O gen problems Where do you define the LOAD address, through HCD 2.11.I. i.e. the LOAD profile for the LPAR has USE DYNAMIC address? Is the (correct) address defined in the LOAD profile? Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 08:06 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: I/O gen problems I have created a new I/O def file through HCD. I then use option 2.6.1 to activate new hardware and software configuration. Changing test to no, write IOCDS yes, and switch IOCDS for next por yes. Everything goes well and I see my new devices via the d m=dev command. I then go to bring up an inactive LPAR and I get a quick load failed message. The message generated in the hardware messages is "load address not defined to LPAR". The detail of the message instruct me to validate the address and then check the I/O config file. I check the I/O config file (IOCDS A1) and the addresses of the dasd devices are all there. What could be wrong? The other things I know... the CHPIDs are online and operational. I dynamically switched back to my A0 / IODF00 combination and I get the same error. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: I/O gen problems
In a message dated 11/4/2009 8:51:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, alan.c.fi...@supervalu.com writes: My initial response wasn't that clear - Check the IPL device address in the LOAD profile. Is it correct? >> Also, the secondary PARM is the IPLPARM device(4 digit) and LOADxx member to use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: I/O gen problems
Both contain a valid 4 digit number. I did play around and put in any 4 digit number and got the same error. It is almost like there is no active IOCDS to the lpar Now I don't want to blame anyone but myself at this time but the CE was here this last weekend doing EC updates... any thing she could have done to make it forget what to load? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: I/O gen problems In a message dated 11/4/2009 8:51:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, alan.c.fi...@supervalu.com writes: My initial response wasn't that clear - Check the IPL device address in the LOAD profile. Is it correct? >> Also, the secondary PARM is the IPLPARM device(4 digit) and LOADxx member to use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: I/O gen problems
Tracy - When all else fails go back to basics. Don't assume anything. Is your wait state code message interpretation correct? Is the load address specified correctly on the HCD? Check all the obvious setting again. Good luck! John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! "JN 2004 "Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works" anon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: I/O gen problems
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:23:37 -0500, Adams, Tracy wrote: >Both contain a valid 4 digit number. I did play around and put in any 4 >digit number and got the same error. It is almost like there is no >active IOCDS to the lpar The IOCDS is only used when you perform a Power On Reset. It is used to load the hardware definition into the HSA. When you perform a hardware activate, that updates the HSA with the information from the IODF. When you perform a software activation, that updates the UCB's in the operating system that you run the software activate under. When you IPL, the IODF is read to load the UCB's for the specified OS configuration into the LPAR. You have said that the device is defined in the IODF. Is it defined to the test LPAR? When you define a device, you also define which LPAR(s) can use it. Check the device, control unit and channels. Are the channel defined as shared or dedicated? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: I/O gen problems
Did you deactivate the lpar? The icon on the hmc. - Original Message - From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed Nov 04 16:26:57 2009 Subject: Re: I/O gen problems So I think I got that... when I try to do a load after a dynamic update to hardware and software, the io devices are loaded from HSA. I have validated that the channels are online and sharable. I have validated that the io devices are assigned to all lpars. The one funny thing though is when I looked at the CU via the I/O configuration utility I saw a parm that said something like SHARED=N. I cant seem to find this parm any ware in CU definitions in HCD. On the production side, the purpose of the IODF update was to add vtl devices. That device was installed today and the chpid, cu, and devices all worked perfectly. A little further down the path... I validated the new IODF against the target system partition DEVL and sure enough device 1500,170 on chp(20) cu 1500 is there in the i/o path list. There is no wait state being generated, the process can't get to past the load address. Hmmm, any more thoughts? Agh, it is only test and devl, I don't need those anyway, maybe I should just give up! I will gladly provide any screen shots of the components if you thing that will help. Thanks again, Tracy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: I/O gen problems On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:23:37 -0500, Adams, Tracy wrote: >Both contain a valid 4 digit number. I did play around and put in any 4 >digit number and got the same error. It is almost like there is no >active IOCDS to the lpar The IOCDS is only used when you perform a Power On Reset. It is used to load the hardware definition into the HSA. When you perform a hardware activate, that updates the HSA with the information from the IODF. When you perform a software activation, that updates the UCB's in the operating system that you run the software activate under. When you IPL, the IODF is read to load the UCB's for the specified OS configuration into the LPAR. You have said that the device is defined in the IODF. Is it defined to the test LPAR? When you define a device, you also define which LPAR(s) can use it. Check the device, control unit and channels. Are the channel defined as shared or dedicated? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: I/O gen problems
So I think I got that... when I try to do a load after a dynamic update to hardware and software, the io devices are loaded from HSA. I have validated that the channels are online and sharable. I have validated that the io devices are assigned to all lpars. The one funny thing though is when I looked at the CU via the I/O configuration utility I saw a parm that said something like SHARED=N. I cant seem to find this parm any ware in CU definitions in HCD. On the production side, the purpose of the IODF update was to add vtl devices. That device was installed today and the chpid, cu, and devices all worked perfectly. A little further down the path... I validated the new IODF against the target system partition DEVL and sure enough device 1500,170 on chp(20) cu 1500 is there in the i/o path list. There is no wait state being generated, the process can't get to past the load address. Hmmm, any more thoughts? Agh, it is only test and devl, I don't need those anyway, maybe I should just give up! I will gladly provide any screen shots of the components if you thing that will help. Thanks again, Tracy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: I/O gen problems On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:23:37 -0500, Adams, Tracy wrote: >Both contain a valid 4 digit number. I did play around and put in any 4 >digit number and got the same error. It is almost like there is no >active IOCDS to the lpar The IOCDS is only used when you perform a Power On Reset. It is used to load the hardware definition into the HSA. When you perform a hardware activate, that updates the HSA with the information from the IODF. When you perform a software activation, that updates the UCB's in the operating system that you run the software activate under. When you IPL, the IODF is read to load the UCB's for the specified OS configuration into the LPAR. You have said that the device is defined in the IODF. Is it defined to the test LPAR? When you define a device, you also define which LPAR(s) can use it. Check the device, control unit and channels. Are the channel defined as shared or dedicated? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
