Re: InfoCenters (Was: Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas)

2008-12-05 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
Last year, I downloaded the IEHS and successfully ran it on my 
Windows laptop as a stand-alone application. It's kinda big 
(like 12MB), but it works. http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/iehs

Ed,
did you find books in eplcise plugin format, e.g. the z/OS library?

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Re: InfoCenters (Was: Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas)

2008-12-05 Thread Edward Jaffe

Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) wrote:
Last year, I downloaded the IEHS and successfully ran it on my 
Windows laptop as a stand-alone application. It's kinda big 
(like 12MB), but it works. http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/iehs



Ed,
did you find books in eplcise plugin format, e.g. the z/OS library?
  


I was experimenting with and testing the platform for (E)JES books only. 
I never thought to look for z/OS books or any other books. But, you 
bring up an excellent point!


If one can install IEHS locally, where does one download the books to 
populate it? I have not yet seen an equivalent to the Softcopy Librarian 
for the eclipse-style plug-ins.


As I understand it, IBM gives out DVDs at SHARE, with fully-populated, 
ready-to-run InfoCenters, for those people that complete the 
documentation survey and/or attend Geoff Smith's sessions. If they made 
that available as an .iso image, that would be a start.


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Re: InfoCenters (Was: Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas)

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:23:19 -0800, Edward Jaffe
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Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) wrote:
 There is no thought that I am aware of to change from having the z/OS
 manuals other than data areas in both book and PDF format.


 There are other IBM products besides z/OS that are already dropping
 the .boo format for some of their books. I recently had the need to
 get current books for DB2 V9.1 for z/OS. I've found many of them
 in both .pdf and .boo format while some were available only as .pdf.


Peter is right. Many products have fully transitioned to, or are moving
toward, Information Centers. For example:

DB2: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/db2luw/v9/index.jsp
CICS: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/cicsts/v3r2/index.jsp
WAS: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v5r1/index.jsp
DS8000: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/dsichelp/ds8000ic/index.jsp
Tivoli Storage Manager:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp
z/VM: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r4/index.jsp

In keeping with the tradition that Z/OS users are always the last to
know, possibly because we're the most demanding group, ours is referred
to as a beta
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/index.jsp so as not
to imply our existing sources of documentation are going away, which I
believe they are (eventually).


And then there are Library Centers also.  For example:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/bookmgr_OS390/libraryserver/zosv1r9/

But I assume those are being replaced with the Information Centers.

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Re: InfoCenters (Was: Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas)

2008-12-03 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden
 
 On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:23:19 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote:
 
 Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) wrote:
 
  There are other IBM products besides z/OS that are already dropping
  the .boo format for some of their books. I recently had the need to
  get current books for DB2 V9.1 for z/OS. I've found many of them
  in both .pdf and .boo format while some were available only as
.pdf.
 
 
 Peter is right. Many products have fully transitioned to, or are
moving
 toward, Information Centers. For example:
 
 [ snip ]
 
 In keeping with the tradition that Z/OS users are always the last to
 know, possibly because we're the most demanding group, ours is
referred
 to as a beta
 http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/index.jsp so as
not
 to imply our existing sources of documentation are going away, which
I
 believe they are (eventually).
 
 And then there are Library Centers also.  For example:
 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/bookmgr_OS390/libraryserver/zosv1r9/
 
 But I assume those are being replaced with the Information Centers.

I hope so.  The Library Centers are Java-based, and it takes a couple
of weeks just for the navigation frame to populate.

-jc-

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Re: InfoCenters (Was: Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas)

2008-12-03 Thread Edward Jaffe

Chase, John wrote:

I hope so.  The Library Centers are Java-based, and it takes a couple
of weeks just for the navigation frame to populate.
  


Information Centers are also Java based...

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Re: InfoCenters (Was: Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas)

2008-12-03 Thread Chase, John
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 Chase, John wrote:
  I hope so.  The Library Centers are Java-based, and it takes a
couple
  of weeks just for the navigation frame to populate.
 
 
 Information Centers are also Java based...

Hmmm  I guess Eclipse uses a fully caffeinated Java, then

-jc-

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