Re: Legal Issues with WEB

2008-03-12 Thread McKown, John
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 Anyone see this or run into such issues?
 
 What is your point?
 What does this have to do with MainFrames?
 
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WebSphere runs on z/OS as well. And, if this case is valid, may impact
use of Web technologies on the mainframe as well as on any other
platform. So it is not mainframe specific, but might impact some
mainframe users. And, since this is a patented technology, redevelopment
from scratch doesn't matter. A patent can stop you from using code
that you wrote yourself, if that code violates the patent. Software
patents stink.

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Re: Legal Issues with WEB

2008-03-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
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I'm not familiar with the specific patents in question, but it should be
obvious by now that nearly all software patents are either stupid,
obvious
or both.   Big companies that hold huge portfolios of these stupid
things
trade them with other big companies to the net effect of building legal
barriers that prevent small companies from building and selling
software.
The end consumer pays more for crappy software while the lawyers clean
up.

Google your favorite software company and read some of their ridiculous
patents for yourself.
Here's a stupid one:  http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6981278.html
SNIP

I was involved in defending against a patent that had been granted --
the patent appeared to me to violate an existing patent, and what it
claimed I could demonstrate that NETVIEW had been doing for years.

The problem with these things are, once granted, the owner is presumed
righteous and all costs to quash it are born by the challenger. It then
becomes a form of legal extortion.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Legal Issues with WEB

2008-03-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Anyone see this or run into such issues?

What is your point?
What does this have to do with MainFrames?

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Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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Re: Legal Issues with WEB

2008-03-11 Thread Kirk Wolf
I'm not familiar with the specific patents in question, but it should be
obvious by now that nearly all software patents are either stupid, obvious
or both.   Big companies that hold huge portfolios of these stupid things
trade them with other big companies to the net effect of building legal
barriers that prevent small companies from building and selling software.
The end consumer pays more for crappy software while the lawyers clean up.

Google your favorite software company and read some of their ridiculous
patents for yourself.
Here's a stupid one:  http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6981278.html

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies LLC

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Thompson, Steve 
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 Anyone see this or run into such issues?

 http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic;
 articleId=9067863source=NLT_PMnlid=8http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9067863source=NLT_PMnlid=8

 (watch wrap)

 Regards,
 Steve Thompson

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