Re: Missing fixes
On 2/7/2007 3:24 PM, R.S. wrote: I just get held by two APARs: AK34959 and AK33471. Those APARs can be found ...under PK34595 and PK33471. I guess PKn is APAR number, and AKn is APAR fix number. Those APAR describe fixes UK21449 and UK21373 respectively. However ...I cannot download those fixes, because IBM system Download fixes claims they do not exist. I tried the same on ShopzSeries. UK21373 is available, UK21449 is not. I also tried to make an oredr with PK and AK numbers. Result: not found. I tried ServiceLink: both PTFs are unavailable. Any clue ??? Contact the IBM Support Center and request the fixes. Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Missing fixes
On 2/7/2007 4:05 PM, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: The entry for UK21449 gives no info whatsoever except that it is open. Not even an associated APAR identifier. (Maybe it's a security exposure APAR so they are being secretive.) RETAIN shows the APAR number when I browse that PTF number. And no, the APAR is not related to system integrity or security. (In any case, as far as I know the PTF will always link to the APAR, but for a security/integrity APAR you won't be able to see the APAR itself.) Walt Farrell, CISSP z/OS Security Design, IBM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Missing fixes
I just get held by two APARs: AK34959 and AK33471. Those APARs can be found ...under PK34595 and PK33471. I guess PKn is APAR number, and AKn is APAR fix number. Correct. The convention for ++APAR fixes is that the first version issued replaces the first character of the APAR number with A, so PK34595 has a fix of ++APAR(AK34595). If a second version of the fix is issued, it will start with B, etc. -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.innovationdp.fdr.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Missing fixes
(In any case, as far as I know the PTF will always link to the APAR, but for a security/integrity APAR you won't be able to see the APAR itself.) Really? I have never seen that. Walt, do you have an example? -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.innovationdp.fdr.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Missing fixes
Bruce Black wrote: I just get held by two APARs: AK34959 and AK33471. Those APARs can be found ...under PK34595 and PK33471. I guess PKn is APAR number, and AKn is APAR fix number. Correct. The convention for ++APAR fixes is that the first version issued replaces the first character of the APAR number with A, so PK34595 has a fix of ++APAR(AK34595). If a second version of the fix is issued, it will start with B, etc. Where are the fixes available? Regular sources, like ShopzSeries od ServiceLink do not provide such capability. BTW: What's funny, one of the PTFs is orderable only through shopz. Other sources do not offer it. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Missing fixes
Radoslaw asks a very good question: where to obtain a fix. For a GA fix, I *always* use ShopzSeries. I haven't touched SRD for years. Other mechanisms like SUF have bit the dust. A non-GA fix can be one of two types: an APAR fixtest with an id like AA12345 (or AK12345 for a PK APAR); or a pre-GA version of a PTF with a standard id but not yet available on Shopz. For either type, I open a PMR with the abstract 'Need fix for OA12345'. I include a brief explanation of my need, which is usually either - we have the problem described by OA12345 and need a fix ASAP - we need to apply some other PTF that requires AA12345 in the chain If a fix is available, I have very seldom been turned away. Level 2 places the fix (APAR or PTF) somewhere on the 'testcase' server and provides instructions for download. The instructions are almost always the same, so keep a job handy that requires editing only with the testcase file name and sometimes directory. If the fixtest solves your problem, IBM is happy to get one more validation. If not, they need to hear that too. One more note. We say 'AA12345', but if the first coded attempt did not work, they will take another stab and call it 'BA12345'. And so on. I've seen rare cases where the first letter might go up to 'G', although I've been told that these aren't necessarily 'failed' attempts, but rather a collection of APAR fixes for different releases. In such cases, the GA PTF will SUP every fix variation ever provided to a customer during the APAR process. R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 02/08/2007 09:36 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Missing fixes Bruce Black wrote: I just get held by two APARs: AK34959 and AK33471. Those APARs can be found ...under PK34595 and PK33471. I guess PKn is APAR number, and AKn is APAR fix number. Correct. The convention for ++APAR fixes is that the first version issued replaces the first character of the APAR number with A, so PK34595 has a fix of ++APAR(AK34595). If a second version of the fix is issued, it will start with B, etc. Where are the fixes available? Regular sources, like ShopzSeries od ServiceLink do not provide such capability. BTW: What's funny, one of the PTFs is orderable only through shopz. Other sources do not offer it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Missing fixes
Both PTFs show a status OPEN. They must be still building them. John Confidentiality notice: The information included in this e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, distribution or similar action is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies of the original message immediately. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Missing fixes I just get held by two APARs: AK34959 and AK33471. Those APARs can be found ...under PK34595 and PK33471. I guess PKn is APAR number, and AKn is APAR fix number. Those APAR describe fixes UK21449 and UK21373 respectively. However ...I cannot download those fixes, because IBM system Download fixes claims they do not exist. I tried the same on ShopzSeries. UK21373 is available, UK21449 is not. I also tried to make an oredr with PK and AK numbers. Result: not found. I tried ServiceLink: both PTFs are unavailable. Any clue ??? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland P.S. Both APARs are fresh, both regard MQ 5.3.1 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Missing fixes
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:23:56 +0100, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Those APAR describe fixes UK21449 and UK21373 respectively. However ...I cannot download those fixes, because IBM system Download fixes claims they do not exist. I tried the same on ShopzSeries. UK21373 is available, UK21449 is not. I also tried to make an oredr with PK and AK numbers. Result: not found. I tried ServiceLink: both PTFs are unavailable. ... PTF List: Release 310 : UK21373 not available yet Release 310 : Relief is available in the form of: AK33471 That says you should be able to request the fix. It is probably not automatically downloadable. The entry for UK21449 gives no info whatsoever except that it is open. Not even an associated APAR identifier. (Maybe it's a security exposure APAR so they are being secretive.) Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Missing fixes
In a message dated 2/7/2007 3:02:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Both PTFs show a status OPEN. They must be still building them. Right, they may even be testing them along the way! In the olden days you would get on the Interested Party page if not the originator and the SE or PSR would come trotting down the cubicle to let us know it was fixed. Now we got AST, but I don't know that it works anymore(or anyless). Stuff shows up sometimes and sometimes it doesn't. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
