Re: P390 start-up problem
The first thing at this time is to understand what goes on when I boot up the P390, automatic execution of what files etc then I'LL know what files to backup for the next disaster Richard Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/10/2005 at 08:26 AM, Richard Verville [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The white square with ALT-F1 did help !. However I lost my desktop IPL icons probably because there was damage in desktop directory in the first place Do you have an archived copy of the desktop? One of the Alt-F1 options is to restore the desktop. If you don't have one, I suggest that you get into the habit of periodically creating one. I'd also urge periodic backups of the entire disk. BTW, if you have room on disk for a BM partition and another logical drive, I strongly recommend that you create a rescue system. I'd also urge backups. my problem is I don't know what the commands are to start the P390 portion and the operating systems You'll need to check the P390 documentation. I don't know what the P390 install looks like, but the firs place to look is \OS2\BOOK. If you don't find it there, look for *.INF anywhere on your disk and see if any of the names are suggestive. The command to read a book looks like view G:\OS2\BOOK\OS2UG.INF Did I mention backups? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: P390 start-up problem
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/14/2005 at 02:49 PM, Richard Verville [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The first thing at this time is to understand what goes on when I boot up the P390, automatic execution of what files etc then I'LL know what files to backup for the next disaster Well, CONFIG.SYS describes a lot of it, and you may have something in startup.cmd, but you also need to worry about giles change by applications and by WPS. Try to backup things piecemeal and you may get serious inconsistencies on the restore. It's safer to back up the whole disks, or single logical drives *if* you know that they are independent. Watch out for INI files on one drive that refer to data files on another drive. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: P390 start-up problem
The white square with ALT-F1 did help !. However I lost my desktop IPL icons probably because there was damage in desktop directory in the first place chkdsk ran on all the disk C, D and E. In the D drive there is a P390 directory. I suppose the next step is to kick up p390, there is an IPL.cmd which I typed and got a default devmap configuration file was not found, use ... this create one... there is a couple of devmap files in different directories (like OS390) . Before this problem, I had in the desktop a box which had 3 IPL Icons (OS390, VM, VSE/ESA ), if had click on one, he'd ipl that operating system and everytime I would restart the whole box it'd reipl the last operating system. If I'd want to IPL another , I'd shutdown the current operating system , go in the box and double click on the wanted operating system and it'd go up As it stands now I have a basic OS/2 up running, my problem is I don't know what the commands are to start the P390 portion and the operating systems Richard Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/09/2005 at 01:18 PM, Richard Verville [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi have a P390 runnning OS2(base) OS/390. We had a power failure , on restart I got a message concerning DESKTOP line not being in config.sys. It's best to quote messages verbatim instead of trying to interpret them. There is a desktop directory with what appears all my icons. Don't mess with it. So anyways I decided to rename config.sys to another name and I had a config.wal file that I renamed as config.sys . Why? Unless you know what each of those files are and how they are related, the rename is Russian Roulette. On restart now I get another error conerning an invalid line What message? What line? another message pops up sys0039 the F device is not ready My guess is that your config.wai was for another configuration. Is there a way to stop the execution of config.sys so I can go back to the original one and see if I can fix that one. I don't have a OS/2 diskette to boot up the PC Unless you have a partition with another copy of OS/2, you'll have to find an OS/2 system on removable media. Don't you have an install CD-ROM? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: P390 start-up problem
Richard Verville wrote: Hi have a P390 runnning OS2(base) OS/390. We had a power failure , on restart I got a message concerning DESKTOP line not being in config.sys. There is a desktop directory with what appears all my icons. So anyways I decided to rename config.sys to another name and I had a config.wal file that I renamed as config.sys . On restart now I get another error conerning an invalid line(press enter to continue) another message pops up sys0039 the F device is not ready and choice I do ends up in the PC hanging up. Is there a way to stop the execution of config.sys so I can go back to the original one and see if I can fix that one. I don't have a OS/2 diskette to boot up the PC Richard You will need the boot diskette(s) to solve this problem. -- .-. | Edward E. Jaffe|| | Mgr, Research Development| [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Phoenix Software International | Tel: (310) 338-0400 x318 | | 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 | Fax: (310) 338-0801| | Los Angeles, CA 90045 | http://www.phoenixsoftware.com | '-' -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: P390 start-up problem
Rich, When you start OS/2, there's a white square in one corner of the screen that stays for a brief moment. When you see it, press Alt-F1 to display a menu with a couple of options, one of which allows you to bring up a command line before the GUI starts. -- Gilbert Saint-Flour GSF Software http://gsf-soft.com/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard Verville wrote: Hi have a P390 runnning OS2(base) OS/390. We had a power failure , on restart I got a message concerning DESKTOP line not being in config.sys. There is a desktop directory with what appears all my icons. So anyways I decided to rename config.sys to another name and I had a config.wal file that I renamed as config.sys . On restart now I get another error conerning an invalid line(press enter to continue) another message pops up sys0039 the F device is not ready and choice I do ends up in the PC hanging up. Is there a way to stop the execution of config.sys so I can go back to the original one and see if I can fix that one. I don't have a OS/2 diskette to boot up the PC Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: P390 start-up problem
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/09/2005 at 10:41 AM, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You will need the boot diskette(s) to solve this problem. Not if he has an alternate rescue system. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: P390 start-up problem
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/09/2005 at 04:10 PM, Gilbert Saint-Flour [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: When you start OS/2, there's a white square in one corner of the screen that stays for a brief moment. When you see it, press Alt-F1 to display a menu with a couple of options, one of which allows you to bring up a command line before the GUI starts. That won't help if the system dies before it tries to start PM. If he doesn't have BM set up to load an alternate OS/2 then he needs to get a boot CD or a set of boot floppies. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html