Re: P390 start-up problem

2005-11-14 Thread Richard Verville
The first thing at this time is to understand what goes on when I boot up
the P390, automatic execution of what files etc then I'LL know what
files to backup for the next disaster Richard

Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

 In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/10/2005
at 08:26 AM, Richard Verville [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 The white square with ALT-F1 did help !. However I lost my desktop
 IPL icons probably because there was damage in desktop directory in
 the first place

 Do you have an archived copy of the desktop? One of the Alt-F1 options
 is to restore the desktop. If you don't have one, I suggest that you
 get into the habit of periodically creating one. I'd also urge
 periodic backups of the entire disk.

 BTW, if you have room on disk for a BM partition and another logical
 drive, I strongly recommend that you create a rescue system. I'd also
 urge backups.

 my problem is I don't know what
 the commands are to start the P390 portion and the operating systems

 You'll need to check the P390 documentation. I don't know what the
 P390 install looks like, but the firs place to look is \OS2\BOOK. If
 you don't find it there, look for *.INF anywhere on your disk and see
 if any of the names are suggestive. The command to read a book looks
 like

 view G:\OS2\BOOK\OS2UG.INF

 Did I mention backups?

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Re: P390 start-up problem

2005-11-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/14/2005
   at 02:49 PM, Richard Verville [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

The first thing at this time is to understand what goes on when I
boot up the P390, automatic execution of what files etc then I'LL
know what files to backup for the next disaster

Well, CONFIG.SYS describes a lot of it, and you may have something in
startup.cmd, but you also need to worry about giles change by
applications and by WPS. Try to backup things piecemeal and you may
get serious inconsistencies on the restore. It's safer to back up the
whole disks, or single logical drives *if* you know that they are
independent. Watch out for INI files on one drive that refer to data
files on another drive.
 
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Re: P390 start-up problem

2005-11-10 Thread Richard Verville
The white square with ALT-F1 did help !. However I lost my desktop IPL
icons probably because there was damage in desktop directory in the first
place chkdsk ran on all the disk C, D and E. In the D drive there is a
P390 directory. I suppose the next step is to kick up p390, there is an
IPL.cmd which I typed and got a default devmap configuration file was not
found, use ... this create one... there is a couple of devmap files in
different directories (like OS390) . Before this problem, I had in the
desktop a box which had 3 IPL Icons (OS390, VM, VSE/ESA ), if had click on
one, he'd ipl that operating system and everytime I would restart the
whole box it'd reipl the last operating system. If I'd want to IPL another
, I'd shutdown the current operating system , go in the box and double
click on the wanted operating system and it'd go up As it stands
now I have a basic OS/2 up  running, my problem is I don't know what
the commands are to start the P390 portion and the operating systems
Richard

Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

 In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/09/2005
at 01:18 PM, Richard Verville [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Hi have a P390 runnning OS2(base) OS/390. We had a power failure , on
 restart I got a message concerning DESKTOP line not being in
 config.sys.

 It's best to quote messages verbatim instead of trying to interpret
 them.

 There is a desktop directory with what appears all my icons.

 Don't mess with it.

 So anyways I decided to rename config.sys to another name and I had a
 config.wal file that I renamed as config.sys .

 Why? Unless you know what each of those files are and how they are
 related, the rename is Russian Roulette.

 On restart now I get another error conerning an invalid line

 What message? What line?

 another message pops up sys0039 the F device is not ready

 My guess is that your config.wai was for another configuration.

 Is there a way to stop the execution of config.sys so I can go back
 to the original one and see if I can fix that one. I don't have a
 OS/2 diskette to boot up the PC

 Unless you have a partition with another copy of OS/2, you'll have to
 find an OS/2 system on removable media. Don't you have an install
 CD-ROM?

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Re: P390 start-up problem

2005-11-09 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Richard Verville wrote:


Hi have a P390 runnning OS2(base) OS/390. We had a power failure , on
restart I got a message concerning DESKTOP line not being in config.sys.
There is a desktop directory with what appears all my icons. So anyways
I decided to rename config.sys to another name and I had a config.wal
file that I renamed as config.sys . On restart now I get another error
conerning an invalid line(press enter to continue) another message pops
up sys0039 the F device is not ready and choice I do ends up in the PC
hanging up. Is there a way to stop the execution of config.sys so I can
go back to the original one and see if I can fix that one. I don't have
a OS/2 diskette to boot up the PC  Richard
 



You will need the boot diskette(s) to solve this problem.

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Re: P390 start-up problem

2005-11-09 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
Rich,

When you start OS/2, there's a white square in one corner of the screen 
that stays for a brief moment.  When you see it, press Alt-F1 to 
display a menu with a couple of options, one of which allows you to 
bring up a command line before the GUI starts. 

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Richard Verville wrote:

 Hi have a P390 runnning OS2(base) OS/390. We had a power failure , on
 restart I got a message concerning DESKTOP line not being in
 config.sys. 
 There is a desktop directory with what appears all my icons. So
 anyways I decided to rename config.sys to another name and I had a
 config.wal file that I renamed as config.sys . On restart now I get
 another error conerning an invalid line(press enter to continue)
 another message pops up sys0039 the F device is not ready and choice
 I do ends up in the PC hanging up. Is there a way to stop the
 execution of config.sys so I can go back to the original one and see
 if I can fix that one. I don't have a OS/2 diskette to boot up the
 PC  Richard 

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Re: P390 start-up problem

2005-11-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/09/2005
   at 10:41 AM, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

You will need the boot diskette(s) to solve this problem.

Not if he has an alternate rescue system.
 
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Re: P390 start-up problem

2005-11-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/09/2005
   at 04:10 PM, Gilbert Saint-Flour [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

When you start OS/2, there's a white square in one corner of the
screen  that stays for a brief moment.  When you see it, press Alt-F1
to  display a menu with a couple of options, one of which allows you
to  bring up a command line before the GUI starts.

That won't help if the system dies before it tries to start PM. If he
doesn't have BM set up to load an alternate OS/2 then he needs to get
a boot CD or a set of boot floppies.
 
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