Re: Some SMP Receive Help Needed.

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 8/5/2005 11:21:44 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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I  thought Santa Clara was a pretty good location.  Even stayed once at a  B&B



>>
Guess I was living in Alameda,CA when I took the Internals course
at Santa Clara. The commute down 280 was bumper to bumper. I'd
leave at 6:30 to make the 09:00 class. The other folks in the
class reported similar problems. They booked us in a Best Westin
for the second week. One of the instructors road a big Gold wing.
Slid it down the offramp on a rainy day, busted him up pretty
good. Still not as bad as Columbia, MD.

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Re: Some SMP Receive Help Needed.

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 8/5/2005 11:22:43 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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I don't  think they give mainframe training
anymore.



>>
They reformed when they decided not to compete in CMOS market.
Now _http://www.techknowledge.com/courses/_ 
(http://www.techknowledge.com/courses/) 

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Re: Some SMP Receive Help Needed.

[Eric Bielefeld]

I went to 2 classes around 1982. One was a 2 week MVS internals class.  I
thought it was very good.  The other was a Measurement and Tuning class,
which was also very good.  I don't think they give mainframe training
anymore.

Eric Bielefeld
P&H Mining Equipment

On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 11:40:08 EDT, Ed Finnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Mostly ex-IBMers. High marks for instructors, low marks for
>locations.

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Re: Some SMP Receive Help Needed.

[Ray Mullins]

I thought Santa Clara was a pretty good location.  Even stayed once at a B&B
that was on Amdahl's recommended list - a different experience than your
typical large hotel (and a helluva lot better than the Best Western).

Later,
Ray 

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In a message dated 8/5/2005 10:19:01 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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I have  heard good things about the AMDAHL classes can anyone confirm this?



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Mostly ex-IBMers. High marks for instructors, low marks for locations.

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Re: Some SMP Receive Help Needed.

[Compton, John]

Very definitely!
A number of years ago, I attended one given near Heathrow, and never really
looked back. It made everything so SiMPlE
JC

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Sent: 05 August 2005 16:18
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Subject: Re: Some SMP Receive Help Needed.

On Aug 5, 2005, at 12:24 AM,   wrote:

> I can recommend quite honestly that if any of you get a chance to do 
> the
> SMPE course at IBM, especially if you know very little about SMPE, 
> then do
> it...  it's a good lead in, and then do three things..  in sequence..
> 1/  Practice  (play)
> 2/  Practice  (play)
> and most importantly
> 3/  Practice  (play)
>
> It really is straight forward once you wrap your head around it.
>
> Just my opinion and not trying to put stuff on anyone..
>
> good luck and no..I don't work for IBM!!  Just had a good instructor in
> Ozz..
>
Well my rather *OLD* experience with SMP/e class at the Chicago Ed 
center was different. I caught the instructor in a couple of errr... 
mistakes. This was 15+ years ago.

I have heard good things about the AMDAHL classes can anyone confirm 
this?

Ed

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Re: Some SMP Receive Help Needed.

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 8/5/2005 10:19:01 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have  heard good things about the AMDAHL classes can anyone confirm  
this?



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Mostly ex-IBMers. High marks for instructors, low marks for
locations.

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Re: Some SMP Receive Help Needed.

[Ed Gould]

On Aug 5, 2005, at 12:24 AM,   wrote:

I can recommend quite honestly that if any of you get a chance to do 
the
SMPE course at IBM, especially if you know very little about SMPE, 
then do

it...  it's a good lead in, and then do three things..  in sequence..
1/  Practice  (play)
2/  Practice  (play)
and most importantly
3/  Practice  (play)

It really is straight forward once you wrap your head around it.

Just my opinion and not trying to put stuff on anyone..

good luck and no..I don't work for IBM!!  Just had a good instructor in
Ozz..

Well my rather *OLD* experience with SMP/e class at the Chicago Ed 
center was different. I caught the instructor in a couple of errr... 
mistakes. This was 15+ years ago.


I have heard good things about the AMDAHL classes can anyone confirm 
this?


Ed

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Re: Some SMP Receive Help Needed.

I can recommend quite honestly that if any of you get a chance to do the
SMPE course at IBM, especially if you know very little about SMPE, then do
it...  it's a good lead in, and then do three things..  in sequence..
1/  Practice  (play)
2/  Practice  (play)
and most importantly
3/  Practice  (play)

It really is straight forward once you wrap your head around it.

Just my opinion and not trying to put stuff on anyone..

good luck and no..I don't work for IBM!!  Just had a good instructor in
Ozz..

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Re: Some SMP Receive Help Needed.

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
08/01/2005
   at 09:50 AM, Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Below are the first couple of lines of two files which I believe are
>sysmods (ptf's) which I think should be receive into the global zone
>but I did an receive and they did't come down. 

Sorry, but the crystal ball on channel 3 is broken, so you'll have to
tell us what the error messages were before anybody can help you.

>What would be the corect statemts (jcl) to do this and are these
>files valid?

You'll find examples in the SMP/E documentation, but it's up to you to
determing the dsnames for, e.g., PTS.

>++ASSIGN SOURCEID(HIPER ) TO(UA09169). /*2005179*/

That's not a sysmod, but rather a tag to be applied to a sysmod. It
assigns a source id of HIPER to UA09169, whether or not it has already
been received.

>++ PTF (UQ82236) /*
>//UQ82236 JOB 5655-82236,HAL00,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),CLASS=A */ .

That's a sysmod. What was on the remaining statements, and what was
the error message?
 
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Re: Some SMP Receive Help Needed.

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 8/1/2005 11:50:29 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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What  would be the corect statemts (jcl) to do this and are these files 
valid?   



>>
 SET BDY(GLOBAL).
 RECEIVE.
 
 
You need a dd for SMPHOLD and SMPPTFIN.
 
>From 3.2 SMP/E Users Guide: 
 
 
1.4.3.1 Examples
 

Let's look at a few of these examples.  
Receiving SYSMODs and HOLDDATA: In the course of  maintaining your system, 
you need to install service and process the related  HOLDDATA. Assume IBM has 
supplied you with a service tape (such as a CBPDO tape  or an ESO tape), and 
you 
want to install it on your system. The first step is to  receive the SYSMODs 
and HOLDDATA that are contained on the tape. You can  accomplish this by 
specifying the following commands:  



SET  BDY(GLOBAL).

RECEIVE.



When you issue these commands, SMP/E receives all the SYSMODs and  HOLDDATA 
on the service tape into the global zone.  
Receiving Only HOLDDATA: There may be times when you do  not want to receive 
the SYSMODs from a service tape, but you do want to receive  the HOLDDATA. 
Because the HOLDDATA provides information about SYSMODs requiring  special 
handling or that are in error, it is important for you to receive the  HOLDDATA 
into 
SMP/E's storage repository as soon as possible. The following  commands 
process only the HOLDDATA:  



SET  BDY(GLOBAL).

RECEIVE  HOLDDATA.



By issuing these commands, you direct SMP/E to receive only the  HOLDDATA 
from the service tape into the global zone.  
Receiving Only SYSMODs: Assume you have previously  received only the 
HOLDDATA from a service tape and are now ready to install the  SYSMODs. To 
install 
these SYSMODs (using the APPLY and ACCEPT commands), you  must first receive 
them. This can be done by specifying the following commands:  



SET  BDY(GLOBAL).

RECEIVE  SYSMODS.



When you issue these commands, you direct SMP/E to receive only the  SYSMODs 
from the service tape into the global zone.  
Receiving SYSMODs and HOLDDATA for  a Specific Product: You may want to 
receive SYSMODs and  HOLDDATA for a particular product from the service tape. 
You 
can accomplish this  task by specifying the following commands:  



SET  BDY(GLOBAL).

RECEIVE  FORFMID(HOP0001).



By issuing these commands, you direct SMP/E to receive SYSMODs and  HOLDDATA 
for the product whose FMID is HOP0001 from the service tape into the  global 
zone.  
For a more complete description of all the RECEIVE command operands and other 
 examples, see _The  RECEIVE Command_ 
(http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/DOCNUM/SA22-7771/HDRCHPREC?SHELF=GIM2BK21&ScrollTOP=HDRCHPREC#HD
RCHPREC)  in _SMP/E  Commands_ 
(http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/DOCNUM/SA22-7771/CCONTENTS?SHELF=GIM2BK21&;)
 . 

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Re: Some SMP Receive Help Needed.

[Pommier, Rex R.]

What messages did you get when you tried to run the receive?  Normally
there is a report that SMP/E generates that shows all the sysmods it
looked at and a short explanation as to why certain PTFs didn't get
received.

Rex

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Subject: Some SMP Receive Help Needed.


Hi again.
 
Below are the first couple of lines of two files which I believe are
sysmods (ptf's) which I think should be receive into the global zone but
I did an receive and they did't come down.  
 
What would be the corect statemts (jcl) to do this and are these files
valid?  
 
I don't think these are the same sysmods (ptf's).
 
Thanks.
 

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(HIPER ) TO(UA09169). /*2005179*/

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(HIPER ) TO(UA12828). /*2005179*/

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(PRP ) TO(UQ89572). /*2005179*/

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(PUT0312) TO(UQ82236).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(PUT0403) TO(UA09169).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(PUT0403) TO(UQ85501).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(PUT0407) TO(UQ89572).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(PUT0408) TO(UA12828).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(PUT0503) TO(UK00286).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(RSU0403) TO(UQ82236).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(RSU0404) TO(UA09169).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(RSU0406) TO(UQ85501).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(RSU0408) TO(UQ89572).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(RSU0409) TO(UA12828).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(SMCCOR) TO(UQ82236).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(SMCCOR) TO(UA09169).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(SMCCOR) TO(UQ89572).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(SMCCOR) TO(UQ85501).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(SMCCOR) TO(UK00286).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(SMCCOR) TO(UA12828).

++ PTF (UQ82236) /*

//UQ82236 JOB 5655-82236,HAL00,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),CLASS=A */ .

***

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(PRP ) TO(UA06764). /*2005180*/

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(PUT0311) TO(UA06764).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(RSU0312) TO(UA06764).

++ASSIGN SOURCEID(SMCCOR) TO(UA06764).

++ PTF (UA06764) /*

//UA06764 JOB 5695-06764,SCPX2,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),CLASS=A */ .

 



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