Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-16 Thread Birger Heede 

Hal,
You have probably already seen the SCRT User Guide about the option for
going 'straight thru' is one you select (AUTO versus HOLD).

I think (I am not the authority on this) that IBM recommends you to
review the data before submitting.I am not aware of IBM insisting on
any manual steps (anymore)in normal situations. Of course if there are
'out of the ordinary' conditions you need (= IBM insists) to provide
additional information and this of course is a manual step.

Birger Heede
IBM Denmark

Hal Merritt wrote:

"Straight through"? As Al posted, we have teeth marks on our backsides
because the posting person got distracted. More, we were on the
committee that invented dirt know that human intervention always fails
now and again. Always. But IBM has taken quite a hard line. 


I would love to implement a fully automated "oops" process as a
backstop. If I can get around the tedious posting process, I think I
could get the actual manager to review/approve the report.  


Interesting point: although IBM insists on the manual steps on our end,
it has been busily automating its internal process. 


I must add: working with those folks has been great without exception. A
gold star to the group!

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Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

Al,
SCRT User Guide Chapter 10 describes this way of submitting SCRT
Reports.

If the SCRT Report for one reson or another does not go straight thru 
the process then the Web interface must be used to submit the report 
(with whatever corrects, comments, justifications needed).
A report in 'work in progress' status will not be picked up by the 9th 
for processing.


Birger Heede
IBM Denmark




Al Sherkow wrote:

There has been a 'request' in to IBM for some time related to this
automation/oops/ no automation topic. 

 
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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Merritt 
"Straight through"? As Al posted, we have teeth marks on our backsides
because the posting person got distracted. More, we were on the
committee that invented dirt know that human intervention always fails
now and again. Always. But IBM has taken quite a hard line. 

I would love to implement a fully automated "oops" process as a
backstop. If I can get around the tedious posting process, I think I
could get the actual manager to review/approve the report.  

Interesting point: although IBM insists on the manual steps on our end,
it has been busily automating its internal process. 

I must add: working with those folks has been great without exception. A
gold star to the group!

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Birger Heede
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:24 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

Al,
SCRT User Guide Chapter 10 describes this way of submitting SCRT
Reports.

If the SCRT Report for one reson or another does not go straight thru 
the process then the Web interface must be used to submit the report 
(with whatever corrects, comments, justifications needed).
A report in 'work in progress' status will not be picked up by the 9th 
for processing.

Birger Heede
IBM Denmark




Al Sherkow wrote:
> There has been a 'request' in to IBM for some time related to this
> automation/oops/ no automation topic. 
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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-15 Thread Birger Heede 

Al,
SCRT User Guide Chapter 10 describes this way of submitting SCRT Reports.

If the SCRT Report for one reson or another does not go straight thru 
the process then the Web interface must be used to submit the report 
(with whatever corrects, comments, justifications needed).
A report in 'work in progress' status will not be picked up by the 9th 
for processing.


Birger Heede
IBM Denmark




Al Sherkow wrote:

There has been a 'request' in to IBM for some time related to this
automation/oops/ no automation topic. 


The request is: allow sites to FTP or email the reports to IBM. IBM would
then stage your reports for your comments "as-if" you had used the web
interface. That is, they would get ready for you to review and comment on
your reports, and not assume that they are "ready" for final processing. 


This avoids the issue of using the LMDS web application to upload your
reports. It is fairly straight forward as this thread has shown to email or
FTP out of your monthly batch job. 



If your company does not review/update/verify by the 9th of the month when
the reports are due then IBM would process them. (This handles the "oops"
case where your automation sends the reports, but no one at your company
looks at it). 


I don't know the status of this request. If you don't send the report at all
IBM is entitled by the T&Cs of your sub-capacity agreement to bill you for
the installed MSUs of each machine. 


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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-15 Thread Al Sherkow 
There has been a 'request' in to IBM for some time related to this
automation/oops/ no automation topic. 

The request is: allow sites to FTP or email the reports to IBM. IBM would
then stage your reports for your comments "as-if" you had used the web
interface. That is, they would get ready for you to review and comment on
your reports, and not assume that they are "ready" for final processing. 

This avoids the issue of using the LMDS web application to upload your
reports. It is fairly straight forward as this thread has shown to email or
FTP out of your monthly batch job. 


If your company does not review/update/verify by the 9th of the month when
the reports are due then IBM would process them. (This handles the "oops"
case where your automation sends the reports, but no one at your company
looks at it). 

I don't know the status of this request. If you don't send the report at all
IBM is entitled by the T&Cs of your sub-capacity agreement to bill you for
the installed MSUs of each machine. 

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-15 Thread Dean Montevago 
What's the address ?

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>We FTP our SCRT reports to IBM and they have no problem with this 
>approach.


Do you review them, first?
Because IBM doesn't.
They just blindly bill.

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL 
>We FTP our SCRT reports to IBM and they have no problem with this approach.


Do you review them, first?
Because IBM doesn't.
They just blindly bill.

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-15 Thread Hal Merritt 
Interesting. We were given the strong impression that the manual web interface 
was our only option. We used to use the email process but not to IBM directly. 
Rather, one of several authorized would glance at it and then would forward the 
email. 



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We FTP our SCRT reports to IBM and they have no problem with this approach.

HTH

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-14 Thread Dean Montevago 
Point well taken. I wanted to automate the sending to prevent "oops, I
forgot" I would be copied so I could review it.

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>Directly sending the SCRT reports to IBM without a review has some risk

>associated with it.

I agree 100%.
I was sending SCRT reports to an ISV that used them.
But, I always reviewed them before they went.
I also attached the CSV to an XL spreadsheet, so I could plot and
compare month-to-month. So, they were not only reasonable based on
processor capacity, but also compared to trends.

When you're depending on this kind of stuff for accounts payable, you'd
better review before sending. My automation sent them to me.

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL 
>Directly sending the SCRT reports to IBM without a review has some risk 
>associated with it.

I agree 100%.
I was sending SCRT reports to an ISV that used them.
But, I always reviewed them before they went.
I also attached the CSV to an XL spreadsheet, so I could plot and compare 
month-to-month.
So, they were not only reasonable based on processor capacity, but also 
compared to trends.

When you're depending on this kind of stuff for accounts payable, you'd better 
review before sending.
My automation sent them to me.

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-13 Thread Al Sherkow 
Directly sending the SCRT reports to IBM without a review has some risk
associated with it. The SCRT report will result in an IBM calculating your
software invoice for hundreds of thousands or even 1M+ dollars per month (or
whatever your currency is). I recommend you examine the report for a number
of reasons: 

Does it have the numbers you are expecting?

Does it have the products you are expecting?

Did someone start a product incorrectly (on the wrong machine or in the
wrong LPAR or an incorrect version)? 

Does the report meet the 95% "Data Collected for z/OS" guideline?

Does the report include CBU testing MSUs that should not be included on your
invoices?

Does the report include an "unusual situation" that you should change by
specifying a smaller number in the "Customer MSUs"?

There are other reasons, but *each* of these has occurred among my clients
in the past 3 months.

Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd.
Consulting Expertise on Capacity Planning, Performance Tuning,
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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Dave Kopischke 
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:08:47 -0500, Dean Montevago wrote:

>Yes, I use this regulary. Can SMTP handle files other than 80 bytes ?

Yes, I send my SCRT reports to an IBM E-Mail address. The .CSV file is 
variable blocked, so my E-Mail headers and trailer has to be VB for GENER.

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Gary Green 
Dean,

I sent you a flatfile (LRECL=240 RECFM=VBA) via private email from the host
using SAS.  Tell me if it makes your way...

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Yes, I use this regulary. Can SMTP handle files other than 80 bytes ?
Still haven't gone to the link you sent.

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This is how I send files in a batch job...

//MAILFILE PROC SOUT='*',
// DS='???',
// EMAILADR='???'
//
//****
//
//IEBGENER EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSOUTDD SYSOUT=&SOUT
//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=&SOUT
//SYSUT1DD DISP=SHR,DSN=OSS05.TEST.SYSIN(&EMAILADR)
//  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=&DS
//SYSUT2DD SYSOUT=(B,SMTPB),
//  DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=80,RECFM=FB,DSORG=PS)
//SYSIN DD DUMMY

The contents of the SYSIN file...
HELO SBCSF1
MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DATA
FROM: Gary Green
TO:   ..
SUBJECT:  Emailed file


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Thanks Gary.

Just the summary. It's 113 lines. We send it without signature also. How
would I get the contents into into the body of an SMTP stream ?

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Can't say Dean...  I write the output as well, edit it down to the one page,
print it for the manager to sign and then fax it over, -and-, as a heads-up,
email them a copy of the unsigned report.  I "do know" that they use the
emailed copy for pricing purposes (got hit with a price increase just last
quarter)...  Whether they back that up with the faxed copy I could not say.

When I took over the chore I just let things continue as they were.  If I
knew they would accept the report without signature, I would just schedule
the job for the first Monday of the reporting quarter, and email the report
to them from the host (SYSOUT = (B,SMTP)), with CC's to other interested
parties, myself included.

When you write the output, how large is the report?  Do you get all those
monthly charts and graphs for each LPAR or just the summary page?

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Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it like
that ?

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Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

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Subject: Sub-CEC Reports

Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it ?

TIA
Dean

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Dean Montevago 
Yes, I use this regulary. Can SMTP handle files other than 80 bytes ?
Still haven't gone to the link you sent.

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This is how I send files in a batch job...

//MAILFILE PROC SOUT='*',
// DS='???',
// EMAILADR='???'
//
//****
//
//IEBGENER EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSOUTDD SYSOUT=&SOUT
//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=&SOUT
//SYSUT1DD DISP=SHR,DSN=OSS05.TEST.SYSIN(&EMAILADR)
//  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=&DS
//SYSUT2DD SYSOUT=(B,SMTPB),
//  DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=80,RECFM=FB,DSORG=PS)
//SYSIN DD DUMMY

The contents of the SYSIN file...
HELO SBCSF1
MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DATA
FROM: Gary Green
TO:   ..
SUBJECT:  Emailed file


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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:51 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

Thanks Gary.

Just the summary. It's 113 lines. We send it without signature also. How
would I get the contents into into the body of an SMTP stream ?

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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports


Can't say Dean...  I write the output as well, edit it down to the one
page, print it for the manager to sign and then fax it over, -and-, as a
heads-up, email them a copy of the unsigned report.  I "do know" that
they use the emailed copy for pricing purposes (got hit with a price
increase just last quarter)...  Whether they back that up with the faxed
copy I could not say.

When I took over the chore I just let things continue as they were.  If
I knew they would accept the report without signature, I would just
schedule the job for the first Monday of the reporting quarter, and
email the report to them from the host (SYSOUT = (B,SMTP)), with CC's to
other interested parties, myself included.

When you write the output, how large is the report?  Do you get all
those monthly charts and graphs for each LPAR or just the summary page?

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it
like that ?

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Behalf Of Gary Green
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports


Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:49 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Sub-CEC Reports

Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it
?

TIA
Dean

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Dean Montevago 
The file created by the program I run is:

 PS 
 VB 
 1024   
 27998  

Sorry, haven't looked at the link yet. How did you create 80 byte
records ? We download the file and use the web.

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A follow-up...

In re-reading my earlier response, it dawned on me that the type of file
I emailed were normal 80 byte records.  If you need to email a true
"file", here is something that may help.

http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsmail/index.html#MIMEBIN

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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:51 AM
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Thanks Gary.

Just the summary. It's 113 lines. We send it without signature also. How
would I get the contents into into the body of an SMTP stream ?

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gary Green
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports


Can't say Dean...  I write the output as well, edit it down to the one
page, print it for the manager to sign and then fax it over, -and-, as a
heads-up, email them a copy of the unsigned report.  I "do know" that
they use the emailed copy for pricing purposes (got hit with a price
increase just last quarter)...  Whether they back that up with the faxed
copy I could not say.

When I took over the chore I just let things continue as they were.  If
I knew they would accept the report without signature, I would just
schedule the job for the first Monday of the reporting quarter, and
email the report to them from the host (SYSOUT = (B,SMTP)), with CC's to
other interested parties, myself included.

When you write the output, how large is the report?  Do you get all
those monthly charts and graphs for each LPAR or just the summary page?

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:23 PM
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Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it
like that ?

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Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports


Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

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Subject: Sub-CEC Reports

Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it
?

TIA
Dean

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Gary Green 
A follow-up...

In re-reading my earlier response, it dawned on me that the type of file I
emailed were normal 80 byte records.  If you need to email a true "file",
here is something that may help.

http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsmail/index.html#MIMEBIN

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Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:51 AM
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Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

Thanks Gary.

Just the summary. It's 113 lines. We send it without signature also. How
would I get the contents into into the body of an SMTP stream ?

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Gary Green
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports


Can't say Dean...  I write the output as well, edit it down to the one page,
print it for the manager to sign and then fax it over, -and-, as a heads-up,
email them a copy of the unsigned report.  I "do know" that they use the
emailed copy for pricing purposes (got hit with a price increase just last
quarter)...  Whether they back that up with the faxed copy I could not say.

When I took over the chore I just let things continue as they were.  If I
knew they would accept the report without signature, I would just schedule
the job for the first Monday of the reporting quarter, and email the report
to them from the host (SYSOUT = (B,SMTP)), with CC's to other interested
parties, myself included.

When you write the output, how large is the report?  Do you get all those
monthly charts and graphs for each LPAR or just the summary page?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it like
that ?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Gary Green
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports


Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

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Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:49 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Sub-CEC Reports

Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it ?

TIA
Dean

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Visiting Nurse Service of New York
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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Gary Green 
This is how I send files in a batch job...

//MAILFILE PROC SOUT='*',
// DS='???',
// EMAILADR='???'
//
//****
//
//IEBGENER EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSOUTDD SYSOUT=&SOUT
//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=&SOUT
//SYSUT1DD DISP=SHR,DSN=OSS05.TEST.SYSIN(&EMAILADR)
//  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=&DS
//SYSUT2DD SYSOUT=(B,SMTPB),
//  DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=80,RECFM=FB,DSORG=PS)
//SYSIN DD DUMMY

The contents of the SYSIN file...
HELO SBCSF1
MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DATA
FROM: Gary Green
TO:   ..
SUBJECT:  Emailed file


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:51 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

Thanks Gary.

Just the summary. It's 113 lines. We send it without signature also. How
would I get the contents into into the body of an SMTP stream ?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Gary Green
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports


Can't say Dean...  I write the output as well, edit it down to the one page,
print it for the manager to sign and then fax it over, -and-, as a heads-up,
email them a copy of the unsigned report.  I "do know" that they use the
emailed copy for pricing purposes (got hit with a price increase just last
quarter)...  Whether they back that up with the faxed copy I could not say.

When I took over the chore I just let things continue as they were.  If I
knew they would accept the report without signature, I would just schedule
the job for the first Monday of the reporting quarter, and email the report
to them from the host (SYSOUT = (B,SMTP)), with CC's to other interested
parties, myself included.

When you write the output, how large is the report?  Do you get all those
monthly charts and graphs for each LPAR or just the summary page?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it like
that ?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Gary Green
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports


Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

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Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:49 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Sub-CEC Reports

Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it ?

TIA
Dean

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Visiting Nurse Service of New York
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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Dean Montevago 
Thanks Gary.

Just the summary. It's 113 lines. We send it without signature also. How
would I get the contents into into the body of an SMTP stream ?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gary Green
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports


Can't say Dean...  I write the output as well, edit it down to the one
page, print it for the manager to sign and then fax it over, -and-, as a
heads-up, email them a copy of the unsigned report.  I "do know" that
they use the emailed copy for pricing purposes (got hit with a price
increase just last quarter)...  Whether they back that up with the faxed
copy I could not say.

When I took over the chore I just let things continue as they were.  If
I knew they would accept the report without signature, I would just
schedule the job for the first Monday of the reporting quarter, and
email the report to them from the host (SYSOUT = (B,SMTP)), with CC's to
other interested parties, myself included.

When you write the output, how large is the report?  Do you get all
those monthly charts and graphs for each LPAR or just the summary page?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it
like that ?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gary Green
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports


Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:49 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Sub-CEC Reports

Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it
?

TIA
Dean

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Sr. Systems Specialist
Visiting Nurse Service of New York
(212) 609 - 9608
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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Dean Montevago 
I'm in the same boat. I'd like the address also.

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Field, Alan C.
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:32 AM
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Raymond,

I'm lazy - what address do you FTP them too? I expect I could find it on the 
web site. 

Right now I use the web interface and upload them that way but if I could add 
an ftp step to the job that would save the manual effort.

Alan 

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Raymond Noal
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 19:57
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

We FTP our SCRT reports to IBM and they have no problem with this approach.

HTH

HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS 
Raymond E. Noal 
Senior Technical Engineer 
Office: (408) 970 - 7978 

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Field, Alan C. 
Raymond,

I'm lazy - what address do you FTP them too? I expect I could find it on the 
web site. 

Right now I use the web interface and upload them that way but if I could add 
an ftp step to the job that would save the manual effort.

Alan 

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Raymond Noal
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 19:57
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Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

We FTP our SCRT reports to IBM and they have no problem with this approach.

HTH

HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS 
Raymond E. Noal 
Senior Technical Engineer 
Office: (408) 970 - 7978 

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-10 Thread Gary Green 
Really...?  I'll pass that along.

Thanks.

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Of Raymond Noal
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:57 PM
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Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

We FTP our SCRT reports to IBM and they have no problem with this approach.

HTH

HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS
Raymond E. Noal
Senior Technical Engineer
Office: (408) 970 - 7978


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Of Gary Green
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

Can't say Dean...  I write the output as well, edit it down to the one page,
print it for the manager to sign and then fax it over, -and-, as a heads-up,
email them a copy of the unsigned report.  I "do know" that they use the
emailed copy for pricing purposes (got hit with a price increase just last
quarter)...  Whether they back that up with the faxed copy I could not say.

When I took over the chore I just let things continue as they were.  If I
knew they would accept the report without signature, I would just schedule
the job for the first Monday of the reporting quarter, and email the report
to them from the host (SYSOUT = (B,SMTP)), with CC's to other interested
parties, myself included.

When you write the output, how large is the report?  Do you get all those
monthly charts and graphs for each LPAR or just the summary page?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it like
that ?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Gary Green
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports


Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:49 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Sub-CEC Reports

Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it ?

TIA
Dean

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Visiting Nurse Service of New York
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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-10 Thread Raymond Noal 
We FTP our SCRT reports to IBM and they have no problem with this approach.

HTH

HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS 
Raymond E. Noal 
Senior Technical Engineer 
Office: (408) 970 - 7978 


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary 
Green
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

Can't say Dean...  I write the output as well, edit it down to the one page,
print it for the manager to sign and then fax it over, -and-, as a heads-up,
email them a copy of the unsigned report.  I "do know" that they use the
emailed copy for pricing purposes (got hit with a price increase just last
quarter)...  Whether they back that up with the faxed copy I could not say.

When I took over the chore I just let things continue as they were.  If I
knew they would accept the report without signature, I would just schedule
the job for the first Monday of the reporting quarter, and email the report
to them from the host (SYSOUT = (B,SMTP)), with CC's to other interested
parties, myself included.

When you write the output, how large is the report?  Do you get all those
monthly charts and graphs for each LPAR or just the summary page?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it like
that ?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Gary Green
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports


Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:49 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Sub-CEC Reports

Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it ?

TIA
Dean

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Sr. Systems Specialist
Visiting Nurse Service of New York
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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-10 Thread Gary Green 
Can't say Dean...  I write the output as well, edit it down to the one page,
print it for the manager to sign and then fax it over, -and-, as a heads-up,
email them a copy of the unsigned report.  I "do know" that they use the
emailed copy for pricing purposes (got hit with a price increase just last
quarter)...  Whether they back that up with the faxed copy I could not say.

When I took over the chore I just let things continue as they were.  If I
knew they would accept the report without signature, I would just schedule
the job for the first Monday of the reporting quarter, and email the report
to them from the host (SYSOUT = (B,SMTP)), with CC's to other interested
parties, myself included.

When you write the output, how large is the report?  Do you get all those
monthly charts and graphs for each LPAR or just the summary page?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it like
that ?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Gary Green
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports


Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dean Montevago
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:49 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Sub-CEC Reports

Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it ?

TIA
Dean

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-10 Thread Walter Medenbach 
Use email if that is acceptable. http://planetmvs.com/mvsmail/ shows how. I
suspect that a digital signature could also be attached.

regards...Walter

On Jan 11, 2008 6:22 AM, Dean Montevago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it
> like that ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Gary Green
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:02 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports
>
>
> Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
> signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.
>
> Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
> output and just sending that.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Dean Montevago
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:49 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Sub-CEC Reports
>
> Hi,
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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-10 Thread Dean Montevago 
We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it
like that ?

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Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

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Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it
?

TIA
Dean

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Visiting Nurse Service of New York
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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-10 Thread Gary Green 
Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

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Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it ?

TIA
Dean

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