Re: Sub-capacity charging - food for thought

2006-05-01 Thread Timothy Sipples
>I am surprised nobody mentioned subcapacity CBU possibility. It was also
>driven by customer demands.

Excellent point. Also Capacity On Demand granularity, including single 
day.

I'll add yet another factor: variation in how SMP-tuned our customers' 
workloads are. More granularity in capacity settings also means much more 
choice within the same engine count. There are now a lot more choices at 
each n-way in the 1- to 7-way ranges. Some of this had to do with an 
enhancement for customers running several small LPARs, to choose one 
example.

For example, if you only look at 3-way configurations, in terms of 
approximate percentage capacity increases at each step you see:

base, 47%, 21%, 28%, 18%, 25%, 26%, 18%, 15%, 15%, 12%, 12%, 12%, 12%, 
12%, 12%, 12%, 11%, 14%, (23%)

The System z9 EC 3-way full capacity is in parentheses. I've skipped some 
of the System z9 EC steps (except for the last one) to stick with the 
System z9 BC range. As you can see, even if you're a zealot about holding 
a 3-way configuration, these steps are almost all quite small. And that's 
very nice indeed, because maybe you have a workload configuration that 
you've precisely tuned for a 3-way system.

Here's what the 3-way steps looked like on a z890 (up to a 3-way z990):

same base, 77%, 91%, 25%, 57%, 22%, 74%, (20%)

Not so many steps, and there are some bigger hops even though the maximum 
3-way capacity is lower.

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IBM Japan, Ltd.
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Re: Sub-capacity charging - food for thought

2006-04-30 Thread Hal Merritt
I'm confused. Our sub capacity pricing is based on the MSU consumption,
not the size of the box. Or so it appears by our monthly software bill.
It has saved us some serious bucks.  



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z9 BC R07 - 53 Performance levels
z9 BC S07- 20 Performance levels
z9 EC nnn - 24 Performance levels

I think that pretty much states right out loud just how really effective
sub-capacity pricing
isn't.

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Re: Sub-capacity charging - food for thought

2006-04-30 Thread Marian Gasparovic

I am surprised nobody mentioned subcapacity CBU possibility. It was also
driven by customer demands.

Marian Gasparovic
IBM Slovakia

On 4/30/06, Timothy Sipples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Customers asked IBM for more capacity increments, which is why the System
z9 BC has so many.  Just that simple.

As mentioned upthread, many customers wanted additional hardware
granularity, especially on the System z9 EC.  Also, while it would be nice
if all software were available on a subcapacity basis (e.g. IBM's WLC),
some customers have old contracts and/or vendors that don't yet provide
subcapacity pricing.  Fortunately more and more vendors seem to be
adopting subcapacity pricing in one form or another.

I have worked with at least one customer that now has all their software
priced at subcapacity.  Indeed they are less concerned about these fine
capacity increments, and they run some of their Linux work on spare CP
capacity.  They may have other reasons to get System z9 (e.g. zIIP), but
granularity is not much of a factor for them.  Your mileage may vary.

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Re: Sub-capacity charging - food for thought

2006-04-30 Thread Timothy Sipples
Customers asked IBM for more capacity increments, which is why the System 
z9 BC has so many.  Just that simple.

As mentioned upthread, many customers wanted additional hardware 
granularity, especially on the System z9 EC.  Also, while it would be nice 
if all software were available on a subcapacity basis (e.g. IBM's WLC), 
some customers have old contracts and/or vendors that don't yet provide 
subcapacity pricing.  Fortunately more and more vendors seem to be 
adopting subcapacity pricing in one form or another.

I have worked with at least one customer that now has all their software 
priced at subcapacity.  Indeed they are less concerned about these fine 
capacity increments, and they run some of their Linux work on spare CP 
capacity.  They may have other reasons to get System z9 (e.g. zIIP), but 
granularity is not much of a factor for them.  Your mileage may vary.

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Timothy F. Sipples
Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries
IBM Japan, Ltd.
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Re: Sub-capacity charging - food for thought

2006-04-28 Thread R.S.

Ted MacNEIL wrote:


I think that pretty much states right out loud just how really effective 
sub-capacity pricing


isn't.

It's only as effective as your negotiators.
We've actually gotten a couple of good deals on sub-capacity licensing.


Agreed.
I would complement, that sub-capacity licensing gives you good 
granularity on software prices, while performance levels address 
granularity of hardware prices.


If you have 2 CPs at 99% and you want to grow-up  by approx. 10%, then 
your software fees (ok, only variable part of it) will grow up by 10%, 
but in the past you had to buy WHOLE CP. Not 2x10% of CP. Whole.

With BC machine you can buy next performance level. That's OK for me.

I remain many predictions and capacity plans, very precisely created, 
but the answer was quite roughly: you have to buy another CP.



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Re: Sub-capacity charging - food for thought

2006-04-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I think that pretty much states right out loud just how really effective 
>sub-capacity pricing
isn't.

It's only as effective as your negotiators.
We've actually gotten a couple of good deals on sub-capacity licensing.

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