Re: Resolver Issue (was Revolver Issue)

2006-05-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 10 May 2006 21:13:09 -0700, Edward Jaffe
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... 
world-wide audience is actually larger than that because there are
people that lurk via bit.listserv.ibm-main.
...

There also those of us that set NOMAIL to prevent the flood of IBM-Main
emails; that use the web interface a few times a day to keep up.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: Resolver Issue (was Revolver Issue)

2006-05-15 Thread Eric N. Bielefeld
I used to look at the list online.  The biggest problem I had is remembering 
where you were.  If I forgot to write down the post number, it was hard to 
find just where I left off.  Also, the only quick way to navigate from post 
to post was to click on the next button.  If I had to do something else and 
I was half way through the posts overnight, it was hard to figure out where 
I left off.  Our internet connection at work made you log back on if you 
didn't use it for 20 minutes or so.


Eric Bielefeld
Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer
Milwaukee Wisconsin
414-475-7434



On Wed, 10 May 2006 21:13:09 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


...
world-wide audience is actually larger than that because there are
people that lurk via bit.listserv.ibm-main.
...


There also those of us that set NOMAIL to prevent the flood of IBM-Main
emails; that use the web interface a few times a day to keep up.

Pat O'Keefe 


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Re: Resolver Issue (was Revolver Issue)

2006-05-15 Thread Richard Pinion
Did you see the posting on www.monster.com for a data center manager position 
in your hometown?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/15/2006 12:33:18 PM 
I used to look at the list online.  The biggest problem I had is remembering 
where you were.  If I forgot to write down the post number, it was hard to 
find just where I left off.  Also, the only quick way to navigate from post 
to post was to click on the next button.  If I had to do something else and 
I was half way through the posts overnight, it was hard to figure out where 
I left off.  Our internet connection at work made you log back on if you 
didn't use it for 20 minutes or so.

Eric Bielefeld
Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer
Milwaukee Wisconsin
414-475-7434


 On Wed, 10 May 2006 21:13:09 -0700, Edward Jaffe
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...
world-wide audience is actually larger than that because there are
people that lurk via bit.listserv.ibm-main.
...

 There also those of us that set NOMAIL to prevent the flood of IBM-Main
 emails; that use the web interface a few times a day to keep up.

 Pat O'Keefe 

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Re: Resolver Issue (was Revolver Issue)

2006-05-13 Thread Chris Mason
Edward,

I'm relying on the acknowledgement message I get whenever I post. Just now I
got the following:

Your  message dated  Sat,  13  May 2006  13:36:03  +0200  with subject  Re:
Revolver Issue has been successfully distributed to the IBM-MAIN list (2196
recipients).

Chris Mason

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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
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Subject: Re: Resolver Issue (was Revolver Issue)


 Chris Mason wrote:
  In principle, you get about 2,200 folk on this list as opposed to only
about ...
 

 Actually, there are approximately 4,600 subscribers to IBM-MAIN. The
 world-wide audience is actually larger than that because there are
 people that lurk via bit.listserv.ibm-main.

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Re: Resolver Issue (was Revolver Issue)

2006-05-13 Thread Edward Jaffe

Chris Mason wrote:

I'm relying on the acknowledgement message I get whenever I post.


I suspected as much.

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Re: ReSolver issue

2006-05-11 Thread Thomas Conley

I'm trying to setup a default revolver using Local Hosts file on MVS.
When using FTP under TSO it's able to find the Server name, but if I try
a batch job it does not locate the same Server name.
What do I need to code in the JCL to locate the correct Server using
Local Hosts?

Rogers


Rogers,

Be sure to set up all local hosts sources according to the hierarchy 
specified in the manual.  I've found that many TCP/IP applications ignore 
the hierarchy and require etc/hosts, so be sure to set up an etc/hosts file 
in the HFS.


Regards,
Tom Conley 


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Re: Resolver Issue (was Revolver Issue)

2006-05-10 Thread Chris Mason
Rogers,

In principle, you get about 2,200 folk on this list as opposed to only about
850 on the IBMTCP-L list, a potential increase of 1,350 (assuming the
IBMTCP-L list is completely included in this list), but, that said, you'll
probably pick up the same old names responding to this issue that you got on
IBMTCP-L - maybe a few more who are too busy to bother with more than the
list which mainly covers their interests.

In case you didn't see the response I sent you yesterday - well, it's
yesterday here but I guess it's today for you even if it is the evening -
I'll post it here too - with some additions.

Oh - and I see somebody's already cracked a Smith and Wesson joke so I
won't bother. g

copies

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Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 15:49:03 +0200
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From: Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  Re: Using TCPIP Hosts file

Rogers,

Sorry for the late response. I'm trying to catch up.

How do we know that the batch FTP job is using a TCPIP.DATA file which
allows the HOSTS.ADDRINFO and HOSTS.SITEINFO you set up to be found and
accessed?

What name were you using in place of the hlq Brian mentioned? By default
it should be TCPIP. On the other hand, your HOSTS.LOCAL, HOSTS.ADDRINFO and
HOSTS.SITEINFO may be qualified by your TSO userid.

You need to make sure which of the files in the famous table in section
1.2.8.2, Resolver configuration files, in the CS IP Configuration Guide
will apply to your batch FTP job.

Chris Mason

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From: Laine, Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, 05 May, 2006 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [IBMTCP-L] Using TCPIP Hosts file


 Brian,

 From your below information I was able to run the MAKESITE command and
 it created the HOSTS.ADDRINFO  HOSTS.SITEINFO

 Also did the F RESOLVER,REFRESH and got the below messages...


 F RESOLVER,REFRESH
 EZZ9298I DEFAULTTCPIPDATA - None
 EZZ9298I GLOBALTCPIPDATA - None
 EZZ9298I DEFAULTIPNODES - None
 EZZ9298I GLOBALIPNODES - None
 EZZ9304I NOCOMMONSEARCH
 EZZ9293I REFRESH COMMAND PROCESSED

 But when I run the batch FTP job replacing the IP address with a HOST
 Name that I put in the HOSTS.LOCAL file it does not find this name.

 Do you know if I need to modify the TCPIP PROFILE?

 Rogers
 -Original Message-
 From: Brian D Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:21 PM
 ...
 Subject: Re: [IBMTCP-L] Using TCPIP Hosts file

 Rogers,

 The HOSTS file is one way to do it; the other is to point your IP stack
 at an outboard Domain Name Server.  (Well, you could also bring up a
 z/OS
 DNS, but that's not a quick and easy thing.)Anyhow, for the host
 file
 update to take effect:

 1)  EDIT  hlq.HOSTS.LOCAL  file, making changes as needed

 2)  TSO command  MAKESITE HLQ=hlq  (this creates / updates
 hlq.HOSTS.ADDRINFO and hlq.HOSTS.SITEINFO using the source code
 from step 1 as input)

 3)  CONSOLE command  F RESOLVER,REFRESH

 Regards,
 Brian P.

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The possible ways to find the local host tables are as follows:

1.  X_SITE environment variable
2.  X_ADDR environment variable
3.  /etc/hosts
4.  userid.HOSTS.INFO
5.  jobname.HOSTS.INFO
6.  hlq.HOSTS.INFO
7.  GLOBALIPNODES
8.  RESOLVER_IPNODES environment
9.  userid.ETC.IPNODES
10. jobname.ETC.IPNODES
11. hlq.ETC.IPNODES
12. DEFAULTIPNODES
13. /etc/ipnodes

Why such a ridiculously complicated list? I hear you ask. Well, you're
right. It's history and the firm IBM commitment - well, almost firm - never
to allow anything that worked in the last release not work in this release.
And it's not that long a history either - something a little over 10 years.

First there was TCP/IP for VM which did everything by allocating,
typically - maybe exclusively - sequential data sets dynamically - because
that's the way CMS is. Perhaps I should say before the beginning was an idea
that an RFC which suggested that local name files should have the peculiar
format you've been using for the source should be used instead of the more
simple layout favoured by UNIX systems.Then TCP/IP for VM was ported to
TCP/IP for MVS. This sort-of accounts for the 4, 5 and 6 options, one of
which - and we've got to work out which one - you've been using .

Then the Unix System Services stuff got added to z/OS and its ancestors, the
resolver got to become a separate address space and the local host table
got to use the UNIX-like format. I expect if I tried really hard I could
come up with a justification for all the other options based on all these
enhancements. Unfortunately I haven't been following TCP/IP for MVS -
morphing into Communications Server IP - closely for most of the last 10
years so I can't say from where the inspiration for all of these accretions
arose. Perhaps somebody still reading feel sufficiently inspired so to do.

Checking the manual later, I discovered that another complicating influence
is whether the IP address is V4 or might also be V6.

As I said, we need 

Re: Resolver Issue (was Revolver Issue)

2006-05-10 Thread Edward Jaffe

Chris Mason wrote:

In principle, you get about 2,200 folk on this list as opposed to only about ...
  


Actually, there are approximately 4,600 subscribers to IBM-MAIN. The 
world-wide audience is actually larger than that because there are 
people that lurk via bit.listserv.ibm-main.


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