SHARE Meeting (Was: SHARE no handouts(?))

2008-03-04 Thread John P Kalinich
Ted MacNeil of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
wrote on 03/03/2008 05:01:58 PM:

 I have put a filter on my e-mail to no longer receive these posts
 regarding hand-outs.

 Rather than b*tching at IBM-Main, could you please take your
 complaints to somebody (eg: SHARE) who might actually care.

 And, then we could get back to mainframe topics.

 (A concerned IBM-Main poster, or [maybe] one unconcerned [vis-à-vis]
 with this topic -- go hig a tree!)

I agree with Ted.  Let's discuss the content of the SHARE meeting.

Regards,
John K

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-09 Thread Kelman, Tom
Well, for some of us, like me, our hair just migrated from our heads to
other spots like our faces.  I'm one of those of limited head hair with
a full beard.

By the way, we all know that God made a few perfect heads and the rest
he covered with hair.  One of my middle school youth group kids told me
that.

Tom Kelman
Commerce Bank of Kansas City
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Is the glass half empty or half full?  This is one of the times I like
to 
quote my father:  I'm not getting bald.  The problem is that my brains 
are growing faster than my hair.

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:03:42 -0500, Jeffrey Deaver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So SHARE is only 5.714 weeks away now, so I need to start planning.   Main
question for this group - How do I go about meeting some of you while I'm
there?


Best place to be snubbed is probably SCIDS. :-)   Look me up.  My web 
site bio has a picture of me.  You probably can't see it in the picture, but I
have a pony tail which makes me pretty easy to pick out.  If you find me,
I'm sure you'll run into some other IBM-MAIN people or I will introduce you
to those that are around that I know.

Cheers,

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 07:54 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:

 You probably can't see it in the picture, but I
 have a pony tail which makes me pretty easy to pick out.

Glad you weren't standing next to Barry when I was looking for people I
(sorta) knew ...  ;-)

Shane ...

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 23:16:51 +1000, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 07:54 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:

 You probably can't see it in the picture, but I
 have a pony tail which makes me pretty easy to pick out.

Glad you weren't standing next to Barry when I was looking for people I
(sorta) knew ...  ;-)

Shane ...


Funny you should say that.  When I started to reply I originally wrote
but don't confuse me with Barry Merrill :-) .  But then erased it.  
I of course don't look anything like him.  A little less gray too. :-)

Doesn't Michael Stack have a pony tail?  He is more likely to be 
confused with Barry if he does. 

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Ken Porowski
I've got a pony tail too although not too much grey (yet).
I figure I might as well let it grow while I still can ... Might end up
losing some IQ points when it goes away grin.
Wonder if we should start a 'long-hair' table at SCIDS ... 

Ken Porowski
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-Original Message-
Michael Stack

Mark Zelden wrote:
 
  You probably can't see it in the picture, but I have a pony tail 
  which makes me pretty easy to pick out.
 

Funny you should say that.  When I started to reply I originally wrote 
but don't confuse me with Barry Merrill :-) .  But then erased it.
I of course don't look anything like him.  A little less gray too. :-)

Doesn't Michael Stack have a pony tail?  He is more likely to be 
confused with Barry if he does.

Mark

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Michael Stack

At 08:31 AM 7/5/2007 -0500, you wrote:

On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 23:16:51 +1000, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 07:54 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:

 You probably can't see it in the picture, but I
 have a pony tail which makes me pretty easy to pick out.

Glad you weren't standing next to Barry when I was looking for people I
(sorta) knew ...  ;-)

Shane ...


Funny you should say that.  When I started to reply I originally wrote
but don't confuse me with Barry Merrill :-) .  But then erased it.
I of course don't look anything like him.  A little less gray too. :-)

Doesn't Michael Stack have a pony tail?  He is more likely to be
confused with Barry if he does.

Mark


At a SHARE meeting long ago, I was riding an elevator with other 
attendees (there are lots of elevators at SHARE meetings), when one 
of them began talking to me about tuning.  After a few seconds, I 
interrupted him to explain that I am not Barry Merrill.  He just kept 
talking.  Once again I explained that I'm not Barry.  Finally, he 
stopped, looked at me more closely, then said, Yes, you are!




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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Edward Jaffe

Wayne Driscoll wrote:

Pony tail, so I guess that means that you could get mistaken for Mike
Stack or Barry Merrill? vbg
  


Pony tail or no pony tail, Mark has a unique look all his own -- easy to 
pick out of a crowd.


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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Pony tail, so I guess that means that you could get mistaken for Mike
Stack or Barry Merrill? vbg

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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:03:42 -0500, Jeffrey Deaver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So SHARE is only 5.714 weeks away now, so I need to start planning.
Main
question for this group - How do I go about meeting some of you while
I'm
there?


Best place to be snubbed is probably SCIDS. :-)   Look me up.  My web 
site bio has a picture of me.  You probably can't see it in the picture,
but I
have a pony tail which makes me pretty easy to pick out.  If you find
me,
I'm sure you'll run into some other IBM-MAIN people or I will introduce
you
to those that are around that I know.

Cheers,

Mark
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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
Funny you should say that.  When I started to reply I originally wrote
but don't confuse me with Barry Merrill :-) .  But then erased it.
I of course don't look anything like him.  A little less gray too. :-)

I've been told the half faced silhouette of Berry Merrill that's on the
front of his books (and front page of mxg.com) actually does resemble me.
Of course, maybe a half faced silhouette looks like a lot of people. ;-)


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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Pinnacle
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Wayne Driscoll wrote:

Pony tail, so I guess that means that you could get mistaken for Mike
Stack or Barry Merrill? vbg
  


Pony tail or no pony tail, Mark has a unique look all his own -- easy to 
pick out of a crowd.




Even easier, Mark's hair is black ;-)

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Ken Porowski
 Arf !

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In a message dated 7/5/2007 9:13:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
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Wonder  if we should start a 'long-hair' table at SCIDS ...  

Or a poodle parlor???

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/5/2007 9:13:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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Wonder  if we should start a 'long-hair' table at SCIDS ...  





Or a poodle parlor???



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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 10:13:04 -0400, Ken Porowski wrote:

Wonder if we should start a 'long-hair' table at SCIDS ...

but the short-hairs might complain...

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant
 
 On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 10:13:04 -0400, Ken Porowski wrote:
 
 Wonder if we should start a 'long-hair' table at SCIDS ...
 
 but the short-hairs might complain...

... not to mention the no-hairs...

-jc-

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Rick Fochtman

Tom Marchant wrote:


On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 10:13:04 -0400, Ken Porowski wrote:

 


Wonder if we should start a 'long-hair' table at SCIDS ...
   



but the short-hairs might complain...

 


As well as us no-hairs.   :-D

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip--


Hey,

What about being more politically correct (so us womens' is not offended) and 
just call it the Wisdom of the Ages???

Lizette
 


-unsnip
I could live with that. :-D

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
Hey,

What about being more politically correct (so us womens' is not offended) and 
just call it the Wisdom of the Ages???

Lizette


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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant
 
 On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 10:13:04 -0400, Ken Porowski wrote:
 
 Wonder if we should start a 'long-hair' table at SCIDS ...
 
 but the short-hairs might complain...

... not to mention the no-hairs...

-jc-


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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Ron Hawkins
  

As well as us no-hairs.   :-D

Fleischmütze? I'm back to having a ponytail - most Aussies would remember me 
having one.

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Alan Schwartz
Is the glass half empty or half full?  This is one of the times I like to 
quote my father:  I'm not getting bald.  The problem is that my brains 
are growing faster than my hair.

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Chase, John
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 Is the glass half empty or half full?  This is one of the 
 times I like to quote my father:  I'm not getting bald.  The 
 problem is that my brains are growing faster than my hair.

I thought that was the cause of gray hair..  :-D

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Craddock, Chris
Ron Hawkins said
  As well as us no-hairs.   :-D
 
 Fleischmütze? I'm back to having a ponytail - most Aussies would remember
 me having one.

Well we should probably narrow that down to at least the subset of Aussies that 
know you. And none of those would need to look for a pony-tail to spot that big 
bollard of yours mate :-)

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-05 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip

Is the glass half empty or half full?  This is one of the times I like to 
quote my father:  I'm not getting bald.  The problem is that my brains 
are growing faster than my hair.
 


--unsnip---
God only created so many perfect heads; the rest He covered with hair! :-D


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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-04 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 16:03 -0500, Jeffrey Deaver wrote:

 So SHARE is only 5.714 weeks away now, so I need to start planning.   Main
 question for this group - How do I go about meeting some of you while I'm
 there?

Walk in the door, grab a beer, start talking to people.

Easy.

Worked for me, and I didn't know a soul by face.
Mind you, I got to meet a few people I *really* didn't know   ;-)

Shane ...

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-04 Thread Rick Fochtman

--snip---



In a message dated 7/3/2007 4:04:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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of you  as possible while I'm there.  I seem to remember receptions in  the
evening where the tables had certain themes?  Is there an IBM-Main  table?
Or should I just wear a t-shirt that says IBM-Main Groupie - Say Hi  To
Me.



 

No the PFCSKs objected to the presence of 'the Sign'. Sam Knutson kindly  
packaged it and sent it to Darren. These days you must wear a pocket protector  
and flash the secret sign with the decoder ring.
 


unsnip-
You might also try looking for bald heads or grey hair...

Maybe we could get some IBM-MAIN baseball hats??

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-04 Thread Rick Fochtman

snip--


At 05:18 PM 7/3/2007 -0400, you wrote:


...

No the PFCSKs objected to the presence of 'the Sign'. Sam Knutson kindly
packaged it and sent it to Darren. These days you must wear a pocket 
protector

and flash the secret sign with the decoder ring.




Well, that's a shame.  Of course, the notion that there are any PFCSKs 
at SHARE is a bit mind-boggling since all I usually view is a sea of 
gray (especially in the mirror). :-D


---unsnip---
I resemble that. My hairline isn't just receding; it's in full headlong 
rout!!! :-D


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SHARE meeting

2007-07-03 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
So SHARE is only 5.714 weeks away now, so I need to start planning.   Main
question for this group - How do I go about meeting some of you while I'm
there?

While I attended the 2001Minneapolis meeting, it was in a limited fashion,
and I was not following IBM-Main back then.  Now I'd like to meet as many
of you as possible while I'm there.  I seem to remember receptions in the
evening where the tables had certain themes?  Is there an IBM-Main table?
Or should I just wear a t-shirt that says IBM-Main Groupie - Say Hi To
Me.

Jeffrey Deaver, Engineer
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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-03 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/3/2007 4:04:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

of you  as possible while I'm there.  I seem to remember receptions in  the
evening where the tables had certain themes?  Is there an IBM-Main  table?
Or should I just wear a t-shirt that says IBM-Main Groupie - Say Hi  To
Me.




No the PFCSKs objected to the presence of 'the Sign'. Sam Knutson kindly  
packaged it and sent it to Darren. These days you must wear a pocket protector  
and flash the secret sign with the decoder ring.



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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-03 Thread Michael Stack

At 05:18 PM 7/3/2007 -0400, you wrote:

...

No the PFCSKs objected to the presence of 'the Sign'. Sam Knutson kindly
packaged it and sent it to Darren. These days you must wear a pocket 
protector

and flash the secret sign with the decoder ring.



Well, that's a shame.  Of course, the notion that there are any 
PFCSKs at SHARE is a bit mind-boggling since all I usually view is a 
sea of gray (especially in the mirror). :-D



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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-03 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/3/2007 5:01:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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PFCSKs  at SHARE is a bit mind-boggling since all I usually view is a 
sea of gray  (especially in the mirror). :-D




Used to be a 370 was a requirement for entry. Think it got down to PS/2 in  
the late 80's. We actually sent some of our younger folks in the early  
nineties and they usually left for greener pastures within a few  months!!! 



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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-03 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:03:42 -0500, Jeffrey Deaver 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do I go about meeting some of you while I'm
there?

While I attended the 2001Minneapolis meeting, it was in a limited fashion,
and I was not following IBM-Main back then.  Now I'd like to meet as many
of you as possible while I'm there.  I seem to remember receptions in the
evening where the tables had certain themes?  Is there an IBM-Main table?
Or should I just wear a t-shirt that says IBM-Main Groupie - Say Hi To
Me.


Wave a handful of twenties in the air and we will find you.

The MVS SCP project was setting up both an IBM-MAIN and an MVS Banner. 
We retired the IBM-MAIN, but not the MVS banner. Blue with white lettering 
as I recall. Usually on the right hand side of the room as you go in.

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Re: SHARE meeting

2007-07-03 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:18:47 EDT, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...
No the PFCSKs objected to the presence of 'the Sign'. Sam Knutson kindly
packaged it and sent it to Darren. These days you must wear a pocket protector
and flash the secret sign with the decoder ring.
...

I suppose it was fine as long as the evening gathering were SCIDS.
Now that there are called things like 'Meet the Projects' Reception
the displayed banners probably must have some relation to SHARE 
projects or programs.  That is really too bad since SHARE markets 
networking as one of its draws.  IBM-Main represents that networking 
at its best.  

And no, that's not a plug for SHARE's Networking Program.   :-)

Pat O'Keefe

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