Re: SV: SV: Mixed case to a CLIST from ISPF command line?

2010-03-02 Thread Dave Salt
When Charles wants to execute the FOO command, and he isn't sure if the panel 
he's on converts commands to uppercase, the best solution (IMO) is for him to 
enter this:

===> tsocmd;foo bar

This is only 3 characters more than entering this:

===> tso foo bar

To me this is simple, elegant, always works, and requires no customization to 
any ISPF panels. If however he should forget to do the first command and 
instead enters the second command, FOO would see that BAR is uppercase. In this 
case, it would display the warning message. In other words, this is meant to be 
a fail-safe mechanism and not something he'd do every time.  

Dave Salt

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> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:28:26 +0100
> From: thomas.b...@swedbank.se
> Subject: SV: SV: Mixed case to a CLIST from ISPF command line?
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
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> > -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> > Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För Dave
> > Salt
> > Skickat: den 2 mars 2010 19:16
> > Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Ämne: Re: SV: Mixed case to a CLIST from ISPF command line?
> > 
> > > > Perhaps a better alternative would be to modify your REXX procedure to
> > > > check the input argument and see if it's all uppercase. If it is, your
> > > > REXX procedure could display a message (e.g. "You forgot to enter this
> > > > command on the TSOCMD panel") and then display the TSO command panel
> > so
> > > > the command can be re-entered?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > From: thomas.b...@swedbank.se
> > > Are Your serious ?
> > 
> > Compared to the only other alternative I've heard so far (i.e. customizing
> > panels), yes, I'm deadly serious. And it would be extremely easy to do.
> > 
> > Dave Salt
> > 
> 
> But think of a everyday, not to say everyminute command where You - as 
> described 
> by You above - have to go through a two-step process ? 
> 
> This would be fully acceptable by old standards, but today the standard of 
> userfriendlyness/effectiveness is on a much higher level - AFAICS.
> I think the UNIX/LINUX shells is setting the bar now.
> 
> Of course - You maybe is arguing from a standpoint of a viable solution in a 
> closed or restricted environment (whether by authority or resource means). 
> But I think it still is a hard sell...
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Regards, 
> Thomas Berg 
> _ 
> Thomas Berg   Specialist   A M   SWEDBANK 
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SV: SV: Mixed case to a CLIST from ISPF command line?

2010-03-02 Thread Thomas Berg
> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För Dave
> Salt
> Skickat: den 2 mars 2010 19:16
> Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Ämne: Re: SV: Mixed case to a CLIST from ISPF command line?
> 
> > > Perhaps a better alternative would be to modify your REXX procedure to
> > > check the input argument and see if it's all uppercase. If it is, your
> > > REXX procedure could display a message (e.g. "You forgot to enter this
> > > command on the TSOCMD panel") and then display the TSO command panel
> so
> > > the command can be re-entered?
> 
> 
> 
> > From: thomas.b...@swedbank.se
> > Are Your serious ?
> 
> Compared to the only other alternative I've heard so far (i.e. customizing
> panels), yes, I'm deadly serious. And it would be extremely easy to do.
> 
> Dave Salt
> 

But think of a everyday, not to say everyminute command where You - as 
described 
by You above - have to go through a two-step process ? 

This would be fully acceptable by old standards, but today the standard of 
userfriendlyness/effectiveness is on a much higher level - AFAICS.
I think the UNIX/LINUX shells is setting the bar now.

Of course - You maybe is arguing from a standpoint of a viable solution in a 
closed or restricted environment (whether by authority or resource means). 
But I think it still is a hard sell...



 
Regards, 
Thomas Berg 
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