Re: Senior project title about MF
Sounds really interesting! I'm sure this community will have some good ideas for you. Are you expected to write code (to program), or can you use, say, open source code already written by others? (Is there a minimum amount of code you're expected to write?) Also, what software environment do you have available on your university mainframe? By software environment I mean (for example) z/OS (version and release), z/OS components (for example, do you have the C/C++ compiler?), DB2 version, IMS TM, IMS DB, MQ, CICS Transaction Server, etc. I can think of a lot of ideas already, but it's most important to choose something that you'd enjoy. Here are some random ideas (with no particular attempt to assess feasibility): - Porting the Linux Standard Base (LSB) to z/OS (UNIX System Services), including one or two sample applications. - A (secure) instant messaging and/or Voice over IP server for z/OS that complies with particular protocol standards, to support a wide variety of clients. Could include a Web-delivered Java applet that clients could optionally use. The Jabber/XMPP protocol is one example. - Social networking for z/OS, such as Wiki software and/or blogging software (Drupal, Scoop, etc.) - Bring another programming language to z/OS. Most are already available, though. Possible examples include Tcl and Gambas. - Bring another relational database to z/OS, such as PostgreSQL or MySQL. - A secure peer-to-peer file sharing client, server, and catalog system for z/OS (based on the Bittorrent protocol, for example). - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BOINC) client for z/OS. - Adding explicit z/OS support to the Eclipse workbench (for Java and for the CDT), so developers can perform basic compile/run tasks. - Bring GNU Dap (statistical analysis package) to z/OS, particularly if it can support SMF. - A TeX system for z/OS (such as the XeTex system), an advanced typesetting and markup language package particularly for scientific and academic document generation. - One of the open source Microsoft Exchange replacement servers for z/OS (such as Zimbra, Scalix, Zarafa, etc.) - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan / Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
may want to focus on software and hardware relationshipmay want to notice how the mainframeibmtoday is merging the p/i/z hardwareover time there will not be a diffand all operating systems will run on them and it will depend on the need to the company to pick the best fit and function to run...as well as the cost?? but that is changing as wellthe Computer Assoc types will be eliminated for charging so must just because it is on a mainframe...questions like--if written in java/html...and runs anywhere...then why price diff. if only on z vs iseries.. -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/24/2008 at 12:09 AM, Ahmet Alper TEC MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there anybody who can advise to me a project title? What are your constraints? Would a TSO version of OOREXX be considered mainframe related? Would it be of the appropriate level of difficulty? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 17:57 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote: - Bring another programming language to z/OS. ... or to Linux on z. I'd vote for SBCL. - Bring another relational database to z/OS, such as PostgreSQL or MySQL. Seems to me we'd be better off with a free development environment (FSVO free). We could use a gcc for z/OS, as well as a glibc. That would have a snowball effect, and would make porting of applications to z/OS more palatable. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BOINC) client for z/OS. Considering what we pay per z/OS MSU, that's an expensive search for ET. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:58:41 -0400, David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Seems to me we'd be better off with a free development environment (FSVO free). We could use a gcc for z/OS, as well as a glibc. That would have a snowball effect, and would make porting of applications to z/OS more palatable. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BOINC) client for z/OS. Considering what we pay per z/OS MSU, that's an expensive search for ET. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wish that the entire GNU toolchain would be ported. It would be the you-know-what out of what IBM supplies with z/OS. However, porting GCC would likely never be done because that would compete with IBM's own C compiler. Also, I get the definite impression that, at least for the z/OS system, IBM does not really like the GPL. I think this because everything that I've seen ported by them is BSD licensed, or some other license which allows them to keep their modifications proprietary (closed source). Just say NO! to OCO! I actually had the arrogance to think that I might be able to do so. I had a sort-of sponsor in IBM who thought he could get me an ADCD license. However, that died the instant that I said that Hercules/390 would be my platform. I couldn't afford even the least expensive FlexES system. -- John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
Do a *complete* port of cURL, including libcurl! On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/24/2008 at 12:09 AM, Ahmet Alper TEC MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there anybody who can advise to me a project title? What are your constraints? Would a TSO version of OOREXX be considered mainframe related? Would it be of the appropriate level of difficulty? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/24/2008 at 08:00 AM, Ron Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: and all operating systems will run on them That's not going to happen. The platforms for, e.g., WXWX VIII, GCOS, MCP, Multics are too different. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:00:15 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/24/2008 at 08:00 AM, Ron Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: and all operating systems will run on them That's not going to happen. The platforms for, e.g., WXWX VIII, GCOS, MCP, Multics are too different. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT The OP probably meant all IBM operating systems. I.e. z/OS, z/VM, z/VSE, AIX, i5/OS, Linux (z/, p/, and i/). -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
There is no constraint. To write a TSO version of OOREXX would be considered mainframe related but i think it is difficult. Actually, i want to make a career as a mainframe system administrator. So I prefer to choose my project title about mainframe. my expectation about this project is gaining experience. -- From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:50 PM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Senior project title about MF In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/24/2008 at 12:09 AM, Ahmet Alper TEC MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there anybody who can advise to me a project title? What are your constraints? Would a TSO version of OOREXX be considered mainframe related? Would it be of the appropriate level of difficulty? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
You should re-title your project I read everything from IBM-MAIN, RACF-L, and CICS-L and actually understood all that was said. That would impress anyone. :-) Here's wishing you the best for your future career. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ahmet Alper TECIMER Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Senior project title about MF There is no constraint. To write a TSO version of OOREXX would be considered mainframe related but i think it is difficult. Actually, i want to make a career as a mainframe system administrator. So I prefer to choose my project title about mainframe. my expectation about this project is gaining experience. -- From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:50 PM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Senior project title about MF In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/24/2008 at 12:09 AM, Ahmet Alper TEC MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there anybody who can advise to me a project title? What are your constraints? Would a TSO version of OOREXX be considered mainframe related? Would it be of the appropriate level of difficulty? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
If it wasn't necessary to show my working project to jury of my university in June 2009 i would try it :) -- From: Tony B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:17 AM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Senior project title about MF You should re-title your project I read everything from IBM-MAIN, RACF-L, and CICS-L and actually understood all that was said. That would impress anyone. :-) Here's wishing you the best for your future career. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ahmet Alper TECIMER Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Senior project title about MF There is no constraint. To write a TSO version of OOREXX would be considered mainframe related but i think it is difficult. Actually, i want to make a career as a mainframe system administrator. So I prefer to choose my project title about mainframe. my expectation about this project is gaining experience. -- From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:50 PM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Senior project title about MF In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/24/2008 at 12:09 AM, Ahmet Alper TEC MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there anybody who can advise to me a project title? What are your constraints? Would a TSO version of OOREXX be considered mainframe related? Would it be of the appropriate level of difficulty? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
Actually, i want to make a career as a mainframe system administrator. So I prefer to choose my project title about mainframe. my expectation about this project is gaining experience. What kind of administrator? 1. DBA - which type 2. Storage 3. Security/RACF 4. Systems Programmer If you can answer that question, you might be able to better define the scope. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I know the answer :) 4. Systems Programmer This is the most compatible choice with me. -- From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:42 AM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Senior project title about MF Actually, i want to make a career as a mainframe system administrator. So I prefer to choose my project title about mainframe. my expectation about this project is gaining experience. What kind of administrator? 1. DBA - which type 2. Storage 3. Security/RACF 4. Systems Programmer If you can answer that question, you might be able to better define the scope. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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4. Systems Programmer Now, you have narrowed the scope. What do you want to do, now: 1. Install software 2. Write exits 3. Both 4. Neither - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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3. Both -- From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:07 AM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Senior project title about MF 4. Systems Programmer Now, you have narrowed the scope. What do you want to do, now: 1. Install software 2. Write exits 3. Both 4. Neither - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
3. Both Hopefully, that will start to give you a focus on what you want to do. My suggestion(s): 1. Come up with a maintenance strategy for keeping the OS current. And/or: 2. Identify a deficiency in how the OS handles certain situations, and write an exit to overcome it. The OS (in many incarnations) has been around for almost 45 years, but there are still problems. Good luck! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
For what it's worth, I like the gcc (and GNU toolchain) idea also. Although it might be a prereq for many of the items on my list anyway. The GCCMVS project may provide a starting point. Here's another possible starting point: http://www.cozx.com/~dpitts/gcc.html I was alluding to all this by mentioning the Linux Standard Base (LSB), which would be great. I don't know where anyone got the idea that IBM frowns on gcc. It's the usual compiler for z/TPF application development, for example. Not to mention Linux on System z. There are multiple C/C++ compilers (including IBM, Dignus, SAS) because needs vary. For any open source work the best project outcome would be to make sure the work is fed back into the mainline project source, so that it stays current. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan / Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Senior project title about MF
Hello, I'm a student in Yildiz Technical University - Computer Engineering Department. There is a IBM 9672 Series G6 mainframe in my department. This year is my final year. So I want to do my senior project on my department's mainframe. Last year i took a course about large scale computer systems and my summer internship was about mainframes in a bank IT center. So i have some knowledge about mainframes. But there is a problem, i cannot find a subject for my project. :-( Is there anybody who can advise to me a project title? Thanks, A, Alper Tecimer -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
Alper, What are the specific requirements of your senior project. Is it an essay, a working program, etc. EdP Ahmet Alper TECİMER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 09/23/2008 05:21 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Senior project title about MF Hello, I'm a student in Yildiz Technical University - Computer Engineering Department. There is a IBM 9672 Series G6 mainframe in my department. This year is my final year. So I want to do my senior project on my department's mainframe. Last year i took a course about large scale computer systems and my summer internship was about mainframes in a bank IT center. So i have some knowledge about mainframes. But there is a problem, i cannot find a subject for my project. :-( Is there anybody who can advise to me a project title? Thanks, A, Alper Tecimer -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior project title about MF
It should be a working program or system. I will have been developing this project for 9 months. For example: last year, my junior project was a wireless sensor networks simulator that written in java. Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:26:05 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Senior project title about MF To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Alper, What are the specific requirements of your senior project. Is it an essay, a working program, etc. EdP Ahmet Alper TECİMER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 09/23/2008 05:21 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Senior project title about MF Hello, I'm a student in Yildiz Technical University - Computer Engineering Department. There is a IBM 9672 Series G6 mainframe in my department. This year is my final year. So I want to do my senior project on my department's mainframe. Last year i took a course about large scale computer systems and my summer internship was about mainframes in a bank IT center. So i have some knowledge about mainframes. But there is a problem, i cannot find a subject for my project. :-( Is there anybody who can advise to me a project title? Thanks, A, Alper Tecimer -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://www.windowsonecare.com/purchase/trial.aspx?sc_cid=wl_wlmail -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
