Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/26/2007 at 08:11 AM, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If everyone opted out of notification of vendor products - do you think Share would continue to get the funds they need so that they can put on the conferences for us? The Devil is in the details. If the vendors didn't spam the attendees but instead made it easy to contact them, wouldn't that still give them an incentive to sponsor Share? If Share had a simple procedure to allow an attendee to register categories of products for which he wanted information, wouldn't that be more useful to the sponsoring vendors than alienating attendees with unwanted junk? I ask as someone who filled in lots of response cards and who welcomed the literature *that I requested*. I know how to use a delete key, or say I am not interested at this time or pitch something into the waste basket. And some know how to maintain a list of vendors who are not welcome. Alienating potential customers is not a sound marketing strategy. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/26/2007 at 09:00 AM, Dave Thorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: At CMG we handle vendor emails differently than SHARE, and I understand the spam problem. But as Lizette says, there's a delete key. And we all know how to use it. There's also a deny list, and some of us know how to use it. Is it really in the best interest of a vendor to have all of his e-mail to a network rejected as spam? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Snubbing at SHARE (Was: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE))
Greg Shirey of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/27/2007 11:42:47 AM: Yes, I got snubbed by a few of the same people as in Baltimore (and I think they were snubbing each other) though I didn't get a sticker this time. I got snubbed by a fellow Lister whose office is in north Dallas - mine is in central Fort Worth. We both laughed at the notion that it we found it simpler to travel to Tampa to meet for the first time than to consider driving the freeways of the D/FW Metroplex. Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John P Kalinich Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Time for a Subject change. Anyone get snubbed in Tampa? I have been thinking about forming a Snubaholics Anonymous discussion group for those of you who think you may have a problem. Contact me off list. Regards, John K -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)
I think I have deleted a lot more posts on this thread than SHARE spam I received. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE) snipped LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 08:11 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: And the only reason the vendors provide sponsorship is so they can get at us. I make a point of looking up people I like on the Expo floor, and probably struck up conversations at a dozen booths in Tampa. These were all folks who had taken the time to introduce themselves to me earlier (in cases YEARS earlier), and I wanted to touch base with them and thank them for their support of SHARE, and catch them up on our business plans. Sponsorship doesn't give vendors the automatic right to litter my front lawn with flyers. It doesn't imply permission to shotgun my inbox either. It does give them visibility in an important venue, and it spreads goodwill. You do business with *people*. Never forget that. I know how to use a delete key If I didn't have some (nontrivial) automation to help me filter my inbox, I'd have to use a delete key about 500 times a day. or pitch something into the waste basket. Not the same thing. I open paper mail on MY schedule; a pile appears on the corner of my desk in the morning, and I'll scan it when I've got a couple of minutes. Nothing urgent there, so I can take my time. Email is more demanding, and (the way many of us operate) requires close attention -- if for no other reason than to evaluate an incoming message to see if it's urgent or not. It is intrusive, in the same way that a telephone can be. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Snubbing at SHARE (Was: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE))
Time for a Subject change. Anyone get snubbed in Tampa? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell I'm so old, I can remember when the 49ers and Raiders were contenders, LA had a team and my slobberkill file was 2 names! I can remember watching a baseball game at the Polo Grounds between the (New York) Giants and the (Brooklyn) Dodgers. (No; sadly, not *that* game.) -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)
In a message dated 7/27/2007 8:32:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: think I have deleted a lot more posts on this thread than SHARE spam I received. I'm so old, I can remember when the 49ers and Raiders were contenders, LA had a team and my slobberkill file was 2 names! ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)
snip I'm so old, I can remember when the 49ers and Raiders were contenders, LA had a team and my slobberkill file was 2 names! /snip raiders 2003, they lost to NE via the tuck rule (I have another name for it, but in involves substituting a letter). 2004, lost to TB in the SB as for the 49ers, 1995 (IIRC) won SB against SD oh yeah..go share, go! fletch -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Snubbing at SHARE (Was: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE))
Yes, I got snubbed by a few of the same people as in Baltimore (and I think they were snubbing each other) though I didn't get a sticker this time. I got snubbed by a fellow Lister whose office is in north Dallas - mine is in central Fort Worth. We both laughed at the notion that it we found it simpler to travel to Tampa to meet for the first time than to consider driving the freeways of the D/FW Metroplex. Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John P Kalinich Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Time for a Subject change. Anyone get snubbed in Tampa? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Spam from SHARE
I grumbled about this a couple SHAREs ago and was told that vendors that are SHARE sponsers get to email SHARE members that have not opted out of SHARE announcements. You don't have use a spam filter; you can ask SHARE not to send them. After hours on the phone to get to the right person to get off their bloody mailing lists, since the automated systems don't work more than about half the time. I personally hate advertisements and commercials of all kinds, but I grit my teeth and just delete these. The vendors provide income to SHARE. Pat O'Keefe On the other hand, an organization that purports to provide IT education *ought* to know what is acceptable and not acceptable as good practice in a well-run IT organization. SHARE's IT decisions are just embarrassingly bad. This is just another one in a long string of bad decisions. News flash to SHARE: if you insist on combining junk mail with the conference-related announcements, then both go in the trash. It's that simple, guys. Buy a clue. -- db -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Pinnacle wrote: They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs to the attendees reasonable? I can see this being the case. If so, they should just tell people that. Its the way of the world these days. Jeff, Most SHARE members understand that vendor support of SHARE is VITAL to keeping SHARE going. There were problems in the registration process that have since been fixed. So now if you check the box not to receive vendor mail prior to the conference, you will not get it. But as Bob Shannon has previously pointed out, when you stop by the vendor booth and they scan your badge, you can expect the Email to come. I have not received any vendor Email prior to SHARE, so I don't know what the fuss is about. Regards, Tom Conley Tom: As much as I didn't care for it. IBM (when it co-hosted SHARE) never pulled this type of crap (excuse my english). The DEFAULT for any mailing should be NO unless I say YES. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
As much as I didn't care for it. IBM (when it co-hosted SHARE) never pulled this type of crap (excuse my english). The DEFAULT for any mailing should be NO unless I say YES IBM never co-hosted SHARE. Check your facts once in a while. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
On Jul 26, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Bob Shannon wrote: As much as I didn't care for it. IBM (when it co-hosted SHARE) never pulled this type of crap (excuse my english). The DEFAULT for any mailing should be NO unless I say YES IBM never co-hosted SHARE. Check your facts once in a while. bob, You can call it whatever you want, But IBM did pick up a fair amount of the cost of putting SHARE (and GUIDE) on. If you don't want to call it co-hosting fine I will call it what I want to. Will you agree that IBM did pick up a fair amount of putting SHARE (and GUIDE) on? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:32 AM, Jeffrey Deaver wrote: They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs to the attendees reasonable? I can see this being the case. If so, they should just tell people that. Its the way of the world these days. Jeff, It shouldn't make any different. SHARE should honor I DONTt WANT to receive email from other companies. Its a privacy issue. By default the answer should be NO nut assumed to be YES Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)
It always amazes me how some people get so upset about spam. It seems to be almost a religious war against it! Personally, I have to agree with Lizette - if vendors can't send emails to people who belong to Share, they probably wouldn't want to spend as much money on Share. I seriously thought about coming to this Share, but I decided that the cost would eat into my savings too much, as I'm still looking for work. The Share fee is pretty reasonable, but the cost of a hotel is pretty steep. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Listers - I must now put my two cents in. How much corporate sponsorship do you think Share gets? I would think most of their funding comes from the vendors. And the only reason the vendorsprovide sponsorship is so they can get at us. If everyone opted out of notification of vendor products - do you thinkShare would continue to get the funds they need so that they can put on the conferences for us? Or is everything free? The hotel, the conference rooms, the snacks between sessions, the handouts? Or our fees paid enough for all of that? I know how to use a delete key, or say I am not interested at this time or pitch something into the waste basket. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
On Jul 26, 2007, at 5:42 AM, David Boyes wrote: ---SNIP- On the other hand, an organization that purports to provide IT education *ought* to know what is acceptable and not acceptable as good practice in a well-run IT organization. SHARE's IT decisions are just embarrassingly bad. This is just another one in a long string of bad decisions. News flash to SHARE: if you insist on combining junk mail with the conference-related announcements, then both go in the trash. It's that simple, guys. Buy a clue. David: Agreed. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)
Lizette is correct. I have been very involved in CMG for years, which most of you have probably heard of and/or attended. The income provided by vendors/sponsors is very important in keeping YOUR costs of attending down. Imagine what it would cost without them, not to mention your job of justifying attending at a higher price. And these things, CMG as well as SHARE, are pricey enough already. At CMG we handle vendor emails differently than SHARE, and I understand the spam problem. But as Lizette says, there's a delete key. And we all know how to use it. Dave Thorn * Senior Technology Analyst * SunGard Computer Services * 600 Laurel Oak Road, Voorhees, NJ, 08043 Tel 856 566-5412 * Mobile 609 781-0353 * Fax 856 566-3656 CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE) Listers - I must now put my two cents in. How much corporate sponsorship do you think Share gets? I would think most of their funding comes from the vendors. And the only reason the vendors provide sponsorship is so they can get at us. If everyone opted out of notification of vendor products - do you think Share would continue to get the funds they need so that they can put on the conferences for us? Or is everything free? The hotel, the conference rooms, the snacks between sessions, the handouts? Or our fees paid enough for all of that? I know how to use a delete key, or say I am not interested at this time or pitch something into the waste basket. I am okay with this so long as Share continues to provide the conference at the level it is at currently. Now, I am not on the board and I am not sure how or where the sponsorship funds go to. But it is something to consider. Just my opinion Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)
Listers - I must now put my two cents in. How much corporate sponsorship do you think Share gets? I would think most of their funding comes from the vendors. And the only reason the vendors provide sponsorship is so they can get at us. If everyone opted out of notification of vendor products - do you think Share would continue to get the funds they need so that they can put on the conferences for us? Or is everything free? The hotel, the conference rooms, the snacks between sessions, the handouts? Or our fees paid enough for all of that? I know how to use a delete key, or say I am not interested at this time or pitch something into the waste basket. I am okay with this so long as Share continues to provide the conference at the level it is at currently. Now, I am not on the board and I am not sure how or where the sponsorship funds go to. But it is something to consider. Just my opinion Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)
In a message dated 7/26/2007 7:12:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am okay with this so long as Share continues to provide the conference at the level it is at currently. Think what's grating is as a Technical organization shows no sign of intelligent life at the top. Surely the webmasters can divvy up the SPAM into Meetings, Needs to know and advertising. Alternatively could take up the google model and do adds on it's web page and not do any SPAM at all. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE) Listers - I must now put my two cents in. How much corporate sponsorship do you think Share gets? I would think most of their funding comes from the vendors. And the only reason the vendors provide sponsorship is so they can get at us. SNIP Blanket ads get what kind of response vs. good will? I ask this, because when I fill out the stuff for various free publications, they ask questions to pre-qualify those getting the subscription. Vendors are very interested in two answers (1) that I am a decision maker and (2) that I can recommend purchases. Then they further qualify that by looking at the area of responsibility and budget numbers. So SHARE not qualifying the list before blindly giving it to vendors causes BAD WILL. Many of us do not have budgetary control, or ability to influence decisions (if you think you do, could you please buy our products from our product line? ;-) ). And I think this is the point that people are trying to make. The other thing that SHARE could do (if they do not want to provide qualified lists of leads) is change their domain name slightly so that Ads could be filtered from the more important items. For example, vendor ads would come to you as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just my .02 cents worth. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)
On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:11 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: Listers - I must now put my two cents in. How much corporate sponsorship do you think Share gets? I would think most of their funding comes from the vendors. And the only reason the vendors provide sponsorship is so they can get at us. If everyone opted out of notification of vendor products - do you think Share would continue to get the funds they need so that they can put on the conferences for us? Or is everything free? The hotel, the conference rooms, the snacks between sessions, the handouts? Or our fees paid enough for all of that? --- SNIP--- Just my opinion Lizette Liz: Then they should *HONOR* requests not to give out (or send) SPAM. This is a privacy issue. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: Spam from SHARE They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs to the attendees reasonable? I can see this being the case. If so, they should just tell people that. Its the way of the world these days. Jeff, Most SHARE members understand that vendor support of SHARE is VITAL to keeping SHARE going. There were problems in the registration process that have since been fixed. So now if you check the box not to receive vendor mail prior to the conference, you will not get it. But as Bob Shannon has previously pointed out, when you stop by the vendor booth and they scan your badge, you can expect the Email to come. I have not received any vendor Email prior to SHARE, so I don't know what the fuss is about. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs to the attendees reasonable? I can see this being the case. If so, they should just tell people that. Its the way of the world these days. Jeffrey Deaver, Engineer Systems Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-665-4231(v) 651-610-7670(p) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 06:42 -0400, David Boyes wrote: News flash to SHARE: if you insist on combining junk mail with the conference-related announcements, then both go in the trash. It's that simple, guys. I had SHARE and Smith-Bucklin remove our email address and fax number from their records completely; it was the only way to not receive spam. I also took up the matter with the SHARE Secretary of the time, who politely suggested that I transfer my position as installation rep to someone else who wouldn't mind receiving information about a company's products or services that may be of interest to members or prospects. They just don't get it. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
My first (and last) comment on this subject. I understand that SPAM is annoying, but I have to ask those of you who are complaining to the list about this, do you call every company that sends you junk snail mail trying opt out? If not, why not? I find it a heck of lot easier to press the delete button on my e-mail inbox, than sort through a physical pile of junk mail, personally. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Spam from SHARE On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Pinnacle wrote: They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs to the attendees reasonable? I can see this being the case. If so, they should just tell people that. Its the way of the world these days. Jeff, Most SHARE members understand that vendor support of SHARE is VITAL to keeping SHARE going. There were problems in the registration process that have since been fixed. So now if you check the box not to receive vendor mail prior to the conference, you will not get it. But as Bob Shannon has previously pointed out, when you stop by the vendor booth and they scan your badge, you can expect the Email to come. I have not received any vendor Email prior to SHARE, so I don't know what the fuss is about. Regards, Tom Conley Tom: As much as I didn't care for it. IBM (when it co-hosted SHARE) never pulled this type of crap (excuse my english). The DEFAULT for any mailing should be NO unless I say YES. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
Schwarz, Barry A wrote: Is anyone else receiving spam from SHARE on behalf of various vendors. One or two more and I'll be angry enough to look up how to block the entire domain. I checked (or was it unchecked?) a box during the registration process that had to do with receiving email from vendors prior to the conference. Whether checked or unchecked (can't exactly remember now) I indicated that I did *not* want any vendor email prior to the conference and I have not received any -- except -- for those few vendors whose booths I visited at the Technology Exchange over the past several years. But, they send me their email advertising all year 'round. Not just prior to SHARE. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:38:47 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone else receiving spam from SHARE on behalf of various vendors. One or two more and I'll be angry enough to look up how to block the entire domain. Instead of wasting my time with this garbage, maybe they could fix the web scheduling tools which consistently refuse to show more than a fraction of the sessions. ... I grumbled about this a couple SHAREs ago and was told that vendors that are SHARE sponsers get to email SHARE members that have not opted out of SHARE announcements. You don't have use a spam filter; you can ask SHARE not to send them. Either way, you won't get the announcements you actually want (like registration deadline reminders, etc.) I personally hate advertisements and commercials of all kinds, but I grit my teeth and just delete these. The vendors provide income to SHARE. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Spam from SHARE
Is anyone else receiving spam from SHARE on behalf of various vendors. One or two more and I'll be angry enough to look up how to block the entire domain. Instead of wasting my time with this garbage, maybe they could fix the web scheduling tools which consistently refuse to show more than a fraction of the sessions. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
