How to Purge Multiple Started Tasks from Output Q

2012-04-12 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I have a started task that kept failing.  It actually used all the available 
job numbers up.  I need to purge all of the output from this job, but keep 
getting error messages.

Here is one of the commands I use:

$P S'OSNMPD',OUTPUT,ALL
$HASP003 RC=(78),P S'OSNMPD'  - MULTIPLE JOBS FOUND

I basically want to purge all of the OSNMPD  started task output from the 
output Q.

What command will do that?

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Re: How to Purge Multiple Started Tasks from Output Q

2012-04-12 Thread McKown, John
Since I rarely want the output from STCs, I just do a $PS1-99 and be done 
with it. If I do need the output, then I don't use a started task, but a 
started job. That way, I can code the JOB card and use the MSGCLASS=x in 
order to direct the output to our sysout archive software.

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 I have a started task that kept failing.  It actually used 
 all the available job numbers up.  I need to purge all of the 
 output from this job, but keep getting error messages.
 
 Here is one of the commands I use:
 
 $P S'OSNMPD',OUTPUT,ALL
 $HASP003 RC=(78),P S'OSNMPD'  - MULTIPLE JOBS FOUND
 
 I basically want to purge all of the OSNMPD  started task 
 output from the output Q.
 
 What command will do that?
 
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Re: How to Purge Multiple Started Tasks from Output Q

2012-04-12 Thread Eric Bielefeld
John - Thanks.  It wasn't exactly what I was looking for, but it worked a lot 
better than putting a P in front of everything in SDSF.  I didn't want to purge 
everything, but I was able to purge large groups at a time, so it didn't take 
too long.  I don't know why I didn't think of that myself.

I thought there was a command that you could give a jobname or STC name and 
purge multiple jobs or STCs.

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 McKown wrote: 
 Since I rarely want the output from STCs, I just do a $PS1-99 and be done 
 with it. If I do need the output, then I don't use a started task, but a 
 started job. That way, I can code the JOB card and use the MSGCLASS=x in 
 order to direct the output to our sysout archive software.
 
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  Subject: How to Purge Multiple Started Tasks from Output Q
  
  I have a started task that kept failing.  It actually used 
  all the available job numbers up.  I need to purge all of the 
  output from this job, but keep getting error messages.
  
  Here is one of the commands I use:
  
  $P S'OSNMPD',OUTPUT,ALL
  $HASP003 RC=(78),P S'OSNMPD'  - MULTIPLE JOBS FOUND
  
  I basically want to purge all of the OSNMPD  started task 
  output from the output Q.
  
  What command will do that?
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Re: How to Purge Multiple Started Tasks from Output Q

2012-04-12 Thread Hervey Martinez
You can use a block command to affect a large number of sysouts in SDSF. On the 
NP column, you put a // and then the desired action on the first job  and 
then page down to the last job and put in a // and press enter.  And it will 
look something like this in SDSF:

//p job001



//  job999


Thanks,
 
Hervey

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John - Thanks.  It wasn't exactly what I was looking for, but it worked a lot 
better than putting a P in front of everything in SDSF.  I didn't want to purge 
everything, but I was able to purge large groups at a time, so it didn't take 
too long.  I don't know why I didn't think of that myself.

I thought there was a command that you could give a jobname or STC name and 
purge multiple jobs or STCs.

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 McKown wrote: 
 Since I rarely want the output from STCs, I just do a $PS1-99 and be done 
 with it. If I do need the output, then I don't use a started task, but a 
 started job. That way, I can code the JOB card and use the MSGCLASS=x in 
 order to direct the output to our sysout archive software.
 
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  Subject: How to Purge Multiple Started Tasks from Output Q
  
  I have a started task that kept failing.  It actually used 
  all the available job numbers up.  I need to purge all of the 
  output from this job, but keep getting error messages.
  
  Here is one of the commands I use:
  
  $P S'OSNMPD',OUTPUT,ALL
  $HASP003 RC=(78),P S'OSNMPD'  - MULTIPLE JOBS FOUND
  
  I basically want to purge all of the OSNMPD  started task 
  output from the output Q.
  
  What command will do that?
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Re: How to Purge Multiple Started Tasks from Output Q

2012-04-12 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Try something like this:

$P O Sx-x,JM=yourSTCname

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Subject: Re: How to Purge Multiple Started Tasks from Output Q

John - Thanks.  It wasn't exactly what I was looking for, but it worked a lot 
better than putting a P in front of everything in SDSF.  I didn't want to purge 
everything, but I was able to purge large groups at a time, so it didn't take 
too long.  I don't know why I didn't think of that myself.

I thought there was a command that you could give a jobname or STC name and 
purge multiple jobs or STCs.

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Systems Programmer


 McKown wrote: 
 Since I rarely want the output from STCs, I just do a $PS1-99 and be done 
 with it. If I do need the output, then I don't use a started task, but a 
 started job. That way, I can code the JOB card and use the MSGCLASS=x in 
 order to direct the output to our sysout archive software.
 
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 IT
 
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 HealthMarkets(r)
 
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  Subject: How to Purge Multiple Started Tasks from Output Q
  
  I have a started task that kept failing.  It actually used all the 
  available job numbers up.  I need to purge all of the output from 
  this job, but keep getting error messages.
  
  Here is one of the commands I use:
  
  $P S'OSNMPD',OUTPUT,ALL
  $HASP003 RC=(78),P S'OSNMPD'  - MULTIPLE JOBS FOUND
  
  I basically want to purge all of the OSNMPD  started task output 
  from the output Q.
  
  What command will do that?
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Re: DISPLAY command for non-IBM started tasks

2010-08-15 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 01:44:09 -0400 Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com wrote:

:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 08/14/2010 
:07:31:36 AM:

: Does anyone know the significance of CIBVERB = CIBSTCOM, documented as
: COMMAND CODE FOR STC COMMUNICATION?

:  START command processing builds a separate CIB for each
:STC Communication Keyword.  The STC Communication Keywords
:are SUB= and JOBNAME=. 

Is the SUB= CIB new? I do not recall receiving anything other than the START
CIB even when using SUB=.

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Re: DISPLAY command for non-IBM started tasks

2010-08-15 Thread Jim Mulder
 On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 01:44:09 -0400 Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com 
wrote:
 
 :IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 
08/14/2010 
 :07:31:36 AM:
 
 : Does anyone know the significance of CIBVERB = CIBSTCOM, documented 
as
 : COMMAND CODE FOR STC COMMUNICATION?
 
 :  START command processing builds a separate CIB for each
 :STC Communication Keyword.  The STC Communication Keywords
 :are SUB= and JOBNAME=. 
 
 Is the SUB= CIB new? I do not recall receiving anything other than the 
START
 CIB even when using SUB=.

  The change flags on the  SUB=  CIB code are old-style format - 
I think from MVS/XA SP2.1.0.   The SUB= CIB is used by STC Job Scheduling
to select the requested subsystem, and is deleted at that point.  So it
is gone by the time your code would get control.

  JOBNAME=  was introduced in SP5.1.0.  I don't see any references
to CIBSTCOM in a z/OS BCP XREF other than START command processing
and STC Job Scheduling, so maybe the JOBNAME=  CIB persists. 
 
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Re: DISPLAY command for non-IBM started tasks

2010-08-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 062101cb3ba4$423fbda0$c6bf38...@org, on 08/14/2010
   at 07:31 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:

I know how to process MODIFY and STOP (and the operands of START)
commands in a non-IBM-written started task (using EXTRACT, CIB, and
QEDIT).

There is no documented interface for extending, e.g., DISPLAY (D),
HALT (Z) or VARY (V). If you want to process them then you'll have to
do as Rob suggested and parse them yourself.

Just out of curiosity, if it's not possible, does anyone know why it
is not?

Because the destinations of D, V and Z are hard-wired.
 
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DISPLAY command for non-IBM started tasks

2010-08-14 Thread Charles Mills
I know how to process MODIFY and STOP (and the operands of START) commands
in a non-IBM-written started task (using EXTRACT, CIB, and QEDIT). Is it
possible to use some roughly similar interface to accept DISPLAY commands?
How?

Just out of curiosity, if it's not possible, does anyone know why it is not?
You can shoehorn any function into MODIFY, but sometimes it's not a great
fit.

Does anyone know the significance of CIBVERB = CIBSTCOM, documented as
COMMAND CODE FOR STC COMMUNICATION?

Charles Mills

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Re: DISPLAY command for non-IBM started tasks

2010-08-14 Thread Rob Scott
Charles

As far as I am aware, there is no *easy* way for you to get your software to 
respond to just D FOO,BAR

You would have to have a subsystem and process the broadcast function code 10 
(system commands). You could then intercept the command string that you seek 
and queue it up for your server code to handle.

However, the normal way that software does this is to register a command prefix 
so that clashes are avoided with other software products and subsystems - so in 
the end you will end up with something like ( being your command prefix) :

 D FOO,BAR

It is subjective if that is preferable to F server,D FOO,BAR 


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Subject: DISPLAY command for non-IBM started tasks

I know how to process MODIFY and STOP (and the operands of START) commands
in a non-IBM-written started task (using EXTRACT, CIB, and QEDIT). Is it
possible to use some roughly similar interface to accept DISPLAY commands?
How?

Just out of curiosity, if it's not possible, does anyone know why it is not?
You can shoehorn any function into MODIFY, but sometimes it's not a great
fit.

Does anyone know the significance of CIBVERB = CIBSTCOM, documented as
COMMAND CODE FOR STC COMMUNICATION?

Charles Mills

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Re: DISPLAY command for non-IBM started tasks

2010-08-14 Thread Charles Mills
Hmmm. Thanks. I guess I'll stick with F server,STATS

Charles

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Charles

As far as I am aware, there is no *easy* way for you to get your software to
respond to just D FOO,BAR

You would have to have a subsystem and process the broadcast function code
10 (system commands). You could then intercept the command string that you
seek and queue it up for your server code to handle.

However, the normal way that software does this is to register a command
prefix so that clashes are avoided with other software products and
subsystems - so in the end you will end up with something like ( being
your command prefix) :

 D FOO,BAR

It is subjective if that is preferable to F server,D FOO,BAR 

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Re: DISPLAY command for non-IBM started tasks

2010-08-14 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 08/14/2010 
07:31:36 AM:

 Does anyone know the significance of CIBVERB = CIBSTCOM, documented as
 COMMAND CODE FOR STC COMMUNICATION?

  START command processing builds a separate CIB for each
STC Communication Keyword.  The STC Communication Keywords
are SUB= and JOBNAME=. 

Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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Re: Started Tasks

2006-08-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
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   at 06:12 PM, Rob Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

All Started Tasks (STC) are started through Master JCL to the
internal reader.

No. Those that run under MASTER do not go through the primary JES.

The default is SYS1.PROCLIB on the system where the task was
started.

Most shops that I've seen update the Master JCL and the JES parms to
provide other libraries.

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Re: Started Tasks

2006-08-04 Thread Bob Shannon
All Started Tasks (STC) are started through Master JCL to the internal

reader.

No. Those that run under MASTER do not go through the primary JES.

He said Master JCL, which I believe is correct. He did not say MSTR
subsystem as in SUB=MSTR.

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Started Tasks

2006-08-03 Thread Mark Steely
We are z/OS V1R4. I have a question about CA's started tasks. CAS9 
CAL7 (CA-ELEVEN) will not start unless they are in SYS1.PROCLIB. These
procs reside in a proclib that is in the concatenation of JES2, but are
not in the proclib concatenation of MSTRJCL00. My question is how do
these proc's know the difference of which library they are started from.
Is CAS9 forcing these to come from SYS1.PROCLIB or forcing them to come
from the MSTRJCLxx concatenation?
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Re: Started Tasks

2006-08-03 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
If they are started 'SUB-MSTR' then they must be in the MSTJCL
concatination. JES doesn't get involved in processing for 'SUB=MSTR'. 


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We are z/OS V1R4. I have a question about CA's started tasks. CAS9 
CAL7 (CA-ELEVEN) will not start unless they are in SYS1.PROCLIB. These
procs reside in a proclib that is in the concatenation of JES2, but are
not in the proclib concatenation of MSTRJCL00. My question is how do
these proc's know the difference of which library they are started from.
Is CAS9 forcing these to come from SYS1.PROCLIB or forcing them to come
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Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Re: Started Tasks

2006-08-03 Thread McKown, John
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 Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 2:21 PM
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 Subject: Started Tasks
 
 
 We are z/OS V1R4. I have a question about CA's started tasks. CAS9 
 CAL7 (CA-ELEVEN) will not start unless they are in SYS1.PROCLIB. These
 procs reside in a proclib that is in the concatenation of 
 JES2, but are
 not in the proclib concatenation of MSTRJCL00. My question is how do
 these proc's know the difference of which library they are 
 started from.
 Is CAS9 forcing these to come from SYS1.PROCLIB or forcing 
 them to come
 from the MSTRJCLxx concatenation?
  
 Any help would be appreciated.
  
 Thank You

The problem is that CAS9 and CAL7 are defined as sub systems, like
JES2. When a START command is issued, the command processor compares the
name of the started task with the names of the subsystems. If the name
being started matches a subsystem name, then the command processor
implicitly adds a ,SUB=MSTR to start the JCL under the master subsystem.

You can get around this by issuing the commands as follows:

S CAS9,SUB=JES2
S CAL7,SUB=JES2

to force the command processor to give the START command to JES2 instead
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