Re: VTS Management and Migration
Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... We are looking into two products, VDR (Virtual Data Recovery) VTAR (Virtual Tape Advanced Recall) from OpenTech Systems to both manage our 3494 Virtual Tape environment and as an aid in migration to TS7700 technology. Does anyone have any experience using these products or know of any other products on the market. I just heard about this project and I don't know anything about these products. -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services Along with CA-1 and TLMS comes a product called COPYCAT. I use it to migrate our STK tape data to the TS7700. It works great, takes care of multivolume, multifile, multivolume/multifile constructs and fully updates the CA-1 TMC after migration. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VTS Management and Migration
Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... We are looking into two products, VDR (Virtual Data Recovery) VTAR (Virtual Tape Advanced Recall) from OpenTech Systems to both manage our 3494 Virtual Tape environment and as an aid in migration to TS7700 technology. Does anyone have any experience using these products or know of any other products on the market. I just heard about this project and I don't know anything about these products. -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services I used TapeCopy to migrate from old to new virtual tape systems - it worked flawlessly. I finished weeks ahead of schedule. We still have some customers who insist on receiving tapes rather than file transmissions. We didn't like the idea of generating the data on a tape and then sending that 1 copy offsite to the vendor. So we set up a process using TapeCopy where the applications writes their dataset to virtual tape and then the tape librarians mail a copy made with TapeCopy off to the customer. We always have the original onsite in case of any dispute or need to send another copy. Almost all of our application tape datasets are written to the virtual tape system and then stacked on what we call a container tapes (300GB ea) using VDR. At DR we recover the last week to 10 days worth of data into a VTS. If we have an application that needs data older than that, we recover it as needed. It all works very smoothly, although it does take some time to recover that amount of data. Using VDR also gives us the advantage when an application needs both an onsite and offsite copy of the same data - they create it once and then we create the offsite copy for them. We use CA1 vault codes to drive the process and stack data with similar expiration characteristics - it's not perfect but works pretty well. If you want more detailed info, please feel free to contact me offlist. darth keller ** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VTS Management and Migration
Mark, We are in the midst of a migration using FATSCOPY. The product seems to be accomplishing the migration with few problems. Some issues to watch out for are VTS Tapes created by sub-systems that record the volser somewhere inside the subsystem. The data may be migrated to another volume (In our case, a complete new Volser Range) and recorded fine in RMM/TLMS, but the subsystem still has pointers to the old volume. Some of these were DB2, SAR, and HSM. These will require more research/solutions. gabe Does anyone have any experience using these products or know of any other products on the market. I just heard about this project and I don't know anything about these products. -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services Time Customer Service - Tampa, FL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VTS Management and Migration
Darth Keller wrote: Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... We are looking into two products, VDR (Virtual Data Recovery) VTAR (Virtual Tape Advanced Recall) from OpenTech Systems to both manage our 3494 Virtual Tape environment and as an aid in migration to TS7700 technology. Does anyone have any experience using these products or know of any other products on the market. I just heard about this project and I don't know anything about these products. -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services I used TapeCopy to migrate from old to new virtual tape systems - it worked flawlessly. I finished weeks ahead of schedule. snip Can you expand on what you mean by TapeCopy? -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services Time Customer Service - Tampa, FL -- Victory in defeat, there is none higher. She didn't give up, Ben; she's still trying to lift that stone after it has crushed her. She's a father going down to a dull office job while cancer is painfully eating away his insides, so as to bring home one more pay check for the kids. She's a twelve-year-old girl trying to mother her baby brothers and sisters because Mama had to go to Heaven. She's a switchboard operator sticking to her job while smoke is choking her and the fire is cutting off her escape. She's all the unsung heroes who couldn't quite cut it but never quit.* Robert A. Heinlein - Stranger in a Strange Land *Referring to the Auguste Rodin sculpture, Caryatid Who Has Fallen under Her Stone -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VTS Management and Migration
snip I used TapeCopy to migrate from old to new virtual tape systems - it worked flawlessly. I finished weeks ahead of schedule. Can you expand on what you mean by TapeCopy? snip I believe Tape/Copy is the 'base product' from OpenTech and VDR is an extra cost feature - although I didn't see anything in my quick check of their website that specifically confirmed that. Their website is very informative helpfuly has some very nice, helpful brochures with pictures. I always like pictures. http://www.opentechsystems.com/ We also looked at their VTAR product, but Mgmt decided to go without it. There is a recycle process that goes along with all the VDR processing where VTAR would be very helpful by pre-staging the virtual tapes back into the VTS buffer. Someone else did raise a caution about products like SAR that keep track of tape volser's internally and I do remember that we did have to work around a couple of those products. It's been a while now, but I think with SAR the SysProg responsible was able to update the database tell it where the moved datasets were. I don't remember doing anything special with the HSM tapes, but that could be due more to a failing memory as a result of the early onset of old age than the project itself. I do know that we tried to point our ABARS tapes into the VTS and then use VDR for them, had issues, and had to re-direct them back to physical tape. I know that OpenTech has made updates to account for any problems we had with the ABARS tapes, but I've not had any time to go back test every thing out again. We're not a very big ABARS shop, so there's not been a lot pressure to put these tapes back into the VTS. Its on my list of things to due in my copious spare time. ddkeller ** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
VTS Management and Migration
We are looking into two products, VDR (Virtual Data Recovery) VTAR (Virtual Tape Advanced Recall) from OpenTech Systems to both manage our 3494 Virtual Tape environment and as an aid in migration to TS7700 technology. Does anyone have any experience using these products or know of any other products on the market. I just heard about this project and I don't know anything about these products. -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services Time Customer Service - Tampa, FL -- Victory in defeat, there is none higher. She didn't give up, Ben; she's still trying to lift that stone after it has crushed her. She's a father going down to a dull office job while cancer is painfully eating away his insides, so as to bring home one more pay check for the kids. She's a twelve-year-old girl trying to mother her baby brothers and sisters because Mama had to go to Heaven. She's a switchboard operator sticking to her job while smoke is choking her and the fire is cutting off her escape. She's all the unsung heroes who couldn't quite cut it but never quit.* Robert A. Heinlein - Stranger in a Strange Land *Referring to the Auguste Rodin sculpture, Caryatid Who Has Fallen under Her Stone -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html