Re: Website Blacklists

2009-02-17 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:28:58 -0700, Roger Bolan  wrote:

>Spamming can cause this.  Once, a long time ago, a customer was unable to
>receive any email from me.  We found out that their site was automatically
>blocking all email from IBM because they said they had been spammed from
>our domain.  I don't know if there had really been an infected machine
>inside IBM, or if somebody outside had just successfully spoofed the
>sending domain.
>
Antispam and security systems can cause this very easily in any shop
Tuning has to be done and exception list have to be maintained.
If you adjust the massmail parm too low your system may reject a newsletter
from IBM(it is an example)
Because the antispam screening cannot make the difference between 200
identical incoming spam mails and 300 identical incoming newsletter for the
announcement of system W .
On the other hand if you adjust at 350... then you let some spam through
The exclude list also can be tricky on web access. (i remember not being
able to look at sites speaking about DB2 propagator)
The reason was that our subscribed list was mentioning *gator* as a spyware.
When you receive 2 or 3000 attacks per hour , you need an automated system
And automation as sophisticated as it may be has its limit because the
spammer are very clever and moving fast . 
Bruno Sugliani 
zxnetconsult(at)free(dot)fr
http://zxnetconsult.free.fr

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Re: Website Blacklists

2009-02-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I don't know if there had really been an infected machine inside IBM, or if 
>somebody outside had just successfully spoofed the 
sending domain. 

This is one of the problems with automated solutions!
A site as reputable as IBM should not have been blocked.
There MUST be some human over-sight.

One company I worked for put in SPAM blockers in, and then reported on the 
success.
Their indicator was the number/percentage of messages blocked.
Absolutely nothing about false positives or negatives.

I review every message that is marked as SPAM and report false positives to my 
service providers.

Of course, I also report the false negatives.


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Re: Website Blacklists

2009-02-17 Thread Roger Bolan
Spamming can cause this.  Once, a long time ago, a customer was unable to 
receive any email from me.  We found out that their site was automatically 
blocking all email from IBM because they said they had been spammed from 
our domain.  I don't know if there had really been an infected machine 
inside IBM, or if somebody outside had just successfully spoofed the 
sending domain. 

--Roger Bolan

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 02/17/2009 
10:18:53 AM:

> Greetings,
>I came across a weird situation late last week. I tried to reply to a
> post
> via the web interface and our netnanny software blocked it. I E-Mailed
> our
> security folks to ask why and they said they got an updated blacklist
> that
> classifies bama.ua.edu under the category of "Alcohol". I understand
> it's a
> college, but
> 
>Has anyone else seen this ???
> 

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Re: Website Blacklists

2009-02-17 Thread Jousma, David
Kinda, in reverse.  One of my new team mates, tried to subscribe to
IBM-MAIN via the web interface.  The confirmation email never shows up.
Then tried to send the subscription request by email.  My email team
here traced the email outbound from our site, and BAMA.EDU accepted the
email, but never send the confirmation back.  

Almost like my domain - 53.com is somehow blacklisted by them!  Same
problem at Marist.edu.  But I can subscribe to the RACF-L list at
UGA.EDU and that works fine.

I've tried contacting Darren here, and Harry Williams at Marist and
never hear back on the matter.

Dave

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Subject: Website Blacklists

Greetings,
   I came across a weird situation late last week. I tried to reply to a
post
via the web interface and our netnanny software blocked it. I E-Mailed
our
security folks to ask why and they said they got an updated blacklist
that
classifies bama.ua.edu under the category of "Alcohol". I understand
it's a
college, but

   Has anyone else seen this ???


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Website Blacklists

2009-02-17 Thread Kopischke, David G.
Greetings,
   I came across a weird situation late last week. I tried to reply to a
post
via the web interface and our netnanny software blocked it. I E-Mailed
our
security folks to ask why and they said they got an updated blacklist
that
classifies bama.ua.edu under the category of "Alcohol". I understand
it's a
college, but

   Has anyone else seen this ???

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