oreacle z/800
A few random bits of advance re: Oracle on zSeries/z9: 1. Arguably the best version of Oracle is the 64-bit 10g for Linux on zSeries. I would check out that version, particularly. I have not heard too many kind words about Oracle's z/OS version. 2. In most cases IFLs will be the most economical for running Oracle. As pointed out by others, IFLs run at full speed, regardless of model. 3. Oracle on zSeries can be an excellent solution for server consolidation, particularly for lots of little Oracle servers, including test and development. So if your workload fits that description it's well worth checking out. 4. Don't spend too much money on z800 IFLs. There are faster systems (z890, z990, z9), and the IFLs cost exactly the same. You may decide it's more economical to get another system, even if it's only for IFLs. (The z990 and z9 can also handle huge numbers of IFLs if you think you might expand past four. And they have more memory.) 5. Don't forget about DB2 UDB Version 8 for z/OS. It's the one database Larry Ellison says he respects. (True!) - - - - - Timothy F. Sipples Consulting Enterprise Software Architect IBM Americas zSeries/z9 Software NEW Phone: +1 312 529 1612 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PGP key available.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: oreacle z/800
Bruce, Don't forget that an IFL is a full powered processor, regardless of the z/800 model. For example, on some of the z/800 processors (0An, 0Xn, 0B1 and 0C1) the CPU's ran at a reduced workload, while an IFL on these models will run at full workload, so for comparison, the numbers will need to be based on a 00x processor. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer Western Metal Supply NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Black Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 12:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: oreacle z/800 Can anyone give me a information about performance of Oracle 9i on Z/OS v1r4 and Oracle 9i on Z/VM SuSe Linix 9 on IFL Proccesor? I can't answer your specific question, but remember than an IFL is the same as a regular CP (processor) except that it is disabled so that you can't IPL z/OS on it. So any performance numbers you can find for Oracle on a z/800 will apply. -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.innovationdp.fdr.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
oreacle z/800
Hi! We are planning to migrate Oracle 8.1.7 applications on Windows 2000 Cluster platform to IBM Z/800 platform Can anyone give me a information about performance of Oracle 9i on Z/OS v1r4 and Oracle 9i on Z/VM SuSe Linix 9 on IFL Proccesor? Is better Oracle 9i on Z/OS v1r4 or Oracle 9i on Z/VM SuSe Linix 9 on IFL Proccesor? Z/OS v1r4 LPAR has 2GB memory, and Z/VM LPAR has 2GB memory and Oracle's Linux guest has 1Gb memory. Best regards Zoran TRifunovic Manager of system service POST Serbia Belgrade Serbia and Montenegro -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: oreacle z/800
You may want to take a look at IBM's SIZE390 IBM offers a sizing service called SIZE390. SIZE390 takes your current hardware/software/utilization and returns an estimate for an IBM hardware/software equivalent. Earlier this year my shop investigated migration scenarios for our production Oracle 9i from our current SUN/UNIX 2-box cluster to our z800 0B1, @115MIPS w/8g (yeah, it's a baby but it rocks with its load). Oracle would run on an IFL under Linux. Even with a dedicated IFL, IBM's SIZE390 returned very ugly results. IBM said we needed ***900 MIPS!*** to handle the SUN load! IBM recommended a z990 and said the z800 would not do the trick. Needless to say, IBM's an$wer went over real well with our mgt... DOA. We are now exploring running Oracle under Linux on clustered AMD64 boxes. No real results as yet. Hope your news is better. Good luck. - Norris Zoran Trifunovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! We are planning to migrate Oracle 8.1.7 applications on Windows 2000 Cluster platform to IBM Z/800 platform Can anyone give me a information about performance of Oracle 9i on Z/OS v1r4 and Oracle 9i on Z/VM SuSe Linix 9 on IFL Proccesor? Is better Oracle 9i on Z/OS v1r4 or Oracle 9i on Z/VM SuSe Linix 9 on IFL Proccesor? Z/OS v1r4 LPAR has 2GB memory, and Z/VM LPAR has 2GB memory and Oracle's Linux guest has 1Gb memory. Best regards Zoran TRifunovic Manager of system service POST Serbia Belgrade Serbia and Montenegro -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: oreacle z/800
Can anyone give me a information about performance of Oracle 9i on Z/OS v1r4 and Oracle 9i on Z/VM SuSe Linix 9 on IFL Proccesor? I can't answer your specific question, but remember than an IFL is the same as a regular CP (processor) except that it is disabled so that you can't IPL z/OS on it. So any performance numbers you can find for Oracle on a z/800 will apply. -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.innovationdp.fdr.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: oreacle z/800
remember than an IFL is the same as a regular CP (processor) except that it is disabled so that you can't IPL z/OS on it. So any performance numbers you can find for Oracle on a z/800 will apply. ... Not exactly true. z/AAPs, IFLs and (I believe for these two, as well) SAPs CFs. Run at the max capacity of a z/8xx CP, rather than at the crippled speeds for the lower end processors. (And, yes I know z/AAPs are not supported on z/800 -- I was making a point) -teD In God we Trust! All others bring data! -- W. Edwards Deming -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
