Re: ICSF Symmetric Key being sent to a non-zOS system

2013-01-17 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2013-01-17 21:22, Mark Jacobs pisze:

I've been reading the ICSF Applications Programmers guide and I
understand the process on how to transport ICSF keys to another zOS
system using importer/exporter keys, but I have no idea on how it would
work on a non-zOS platform.

Can anyone point me to some doc, or share their process if they've
already done it?


The least secure method, but the easiest si to sent the key in clear 
form, unencrypted. That requires SSM=YES.
IOf you don't like clear keys then you should protect it by encrypting 
the key using ...the other key. In ICSF it is usually the oter key 
called transport key. Of course the other party (receiver) has to use 
the same symmetric transport key to decrypt the "message".
The problem is how to get the same transport key in both systems. You 
can send such key using other key for transport...


There are following solutions:
a) you really send first key in clear form.
b) you enter the key in both machines - the key is not sent, but rather 
read from the sheet of paper by human entering it.
c) you can use assymetric cryptography to exchange the keys. The safest 
way, probably he most complicated.


Now you know methods, but there is still problem with compatibility. The 
other system have to understand the data sent from ICSF. Having smae 
algorithms and keylenghts on both sides is prerequisite.



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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2013-01-17 22:45, Steve Conway pisze:

Within your JES2PARM, you can specify by JOBCLASS whether to allow command
processing or not.  I think JES2 gets first whack at saying "No", followed
by RACF (if JES2 thinks it's OK).


Well... so?

JOBCLASS can allow (ask operator) or deny all the commands, regardless 
of command type and user who issued it. Not funny. Tha't why OPERCMDS is 
created - to make distinction between MVS.DISPLAY and MVS.QUIESCE as 
well as JOHN and FRANK.


JOBCLASS is free of choice in vanilla system, so any user can use any 
class. It can be limited using exits, such exit could check ...in RACF.



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Re: Tasks ENQ'ing exclusive on resource not getting control in FIFO order

2013-01-17 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
>Have you checked to see if the system that ends up winning the ENQ is 
>the same as the one which was running the job that just ended and did 
>the DEQ? It seems to me that the DEQing system has the best chance of 
>winning any race condition since it is the first to know of the DEQ 
>and thus the first to be able to grab the ENQ lock.

Yes, we saw symptoms like that, too, but if GRS contention resolution
is defined to be FIFO, then there is no race condition one system can
win.

I wanted to confirm I'm not missing something that changed in GRS
processing, before opening a PMR. Jim Mulder confirmed that it still
had to be FIFO. We now have to find out why we saw different behavior.

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Re: silicon photonics - faster than copper

2013-01-17 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2013-01-17 18:31, Martin, Larry D pisze:

But light doesn't create heat; thus more circuits in a smaller 
space..


1. Light could create heat, but I strongly believe this is not the case 
in such application due to powers which could be used. The problem 
occurs in long distance links (undersea cables for example) or outside 
of IT.


2. I would worry about transmitters. Transmitters do create heat.

3. There are also receivers. While heating of receivers is not nightmare 
for engineers, they do create a hit also.



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Re: silicon photonics - faster than copper

2013-01-17 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2013-01-17 18:23, retired mainframer pisze:

While photonic components (switches, etc) may be faster than the current
semi-conductor ones, can the wiring really be a factor.  Don't both
electricity and light move at c?


Neither light nor electricity move at c.

Speed of light depends on the media. c is for vacuum. For fiber optic it 
is c/RI  RI - refractive index, approx. 1.46
So for the calculations people tend to use speed of light (still in the 
FO) as 200 000 000 m/s.


Now, speed of electricity is higher it's approx. 3/4 c. However I can't 
remember explanation for the number.


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Re: Tasks ENQ'ing exclusive on resource not getting control in FIFO order

2013-01-17 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
Have you checked to see if the system that ends up winning the ENQ is 
the same as the one which was running the job that just ended and did 
the DEQ? It seems to me that the DEQing system has the best chance of 
winning any race condition since it is the first to know of the DEQ 
and thus the first to be able to grab the ENQ lock.





At 14:46 -0600 on 01/17/2013, Peter Hunkeler wrote about Tasks 
ENQ'ing exclusive on resource not getting control in :


It was my understanding that tasks enqueueing on a 
resource are getting control in FIFO order, if contention existed. 
Today, we had a situation where this was not true.


Environment is as follows:

- 4 system parallel sysplex, z/OS V1.13, GRS STAR mode.
- a dozen or so jobs running the same program are active across all 
4 systems at a time. More job being submitted as jobs end (more or 
less).
- the programs are serializing using EXCLUSIVE ENQ on a resource, 
scope systems


As expected, one job is running, all others are waiting to get the 
resource assigned.
But suddenly, we the recognized that jobs on two systems never got 
running. They have been waiting for the resource for hours, while 
newer jobs got control one after the other. So resource assignment 
is clearly not FIFO. We then saw (in EJES) that once a job ended, 
all waiting jobs are active for a very short time, then one job 
continues to run while all other are waiting again.


I have RTFM, and still think ENQ is FIFO. I have not found anything 
related to GRS STAR mode that contradicts.


I have not followed GRS new lately. What am I missing?

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Re: Running the RB chain of an inactive TCB

2013-01-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <50f87d72.5020...@phoenixsoftware.com>, on 01/17/2013
   at 02:38 PM, Edward Jaffe  said:

>When begs the question: if local lock is not enough, what
>serialization should  be used? ;)

Dispatcher lock plus testing that the TCB is not dispatched?

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Re: silicon photonics - faster than copper

2013-01-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
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on 01/17/2013
   at 12:31 PM, "Martin, Larry D"  said:

>But light doesn't create heat;

Are you a betting man?

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Re: silicon photonics - faster than copper

2013-01-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4301C80A9ADC4F1AA5460361D8A785E0@barryf93b83d71>, on 01/17/2013
   at 09:23 AM, retired mainframer  said:

>While photonic components (switches, etc) may be faster than the
>current semi-conductor ones, can the wiring really be a factor. 
>Don't both electricity and light move at c?

No; electrons have a non-zero rest mass. However, an electromagnetic
field moves at c, so the Devil is in the details.

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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <05dc01cdf4c8$fea86de0$fbf949a0$@mindspring.com>, on 01/17/2013
   at 08:40 AM, Lizette Koehler  said:

>It might work under OPER in TSO.

OPER is by design very limited; I'd suggest CONSOLE if you're
authorized for it.

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Re: Searching for storage (DASD) alternatives

2013-01-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
,
on 01/16/2013
   at 01:15 PM, John McKown  said:

>Yea. and the only supported thing that I can think of which requires
>ECKD is BPAM for PDS. Oh, and NIP for SYS1.NUCLEUS mainly I believe.

IEAIPL00.

FWIW, TSS/360 used page-formatted volumes, including VPAM.

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Re: Searching for storage (DASD) alternatives

2013-01-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 01/16/2013
   at 01:57 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler  said:

>beatt...@uk.ibm.com (Malcolm Beattie) writes:
>> z/VSE has supported FCP SCSI for a good while now (since 3.1).

>a lot easier for any mainframe system that originally provided FBA
>support

The original code base precedes FBA. Once they added FBA most of the
work was done for FCP SCSI.

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Re: Break a dataset into new record boundaries?

2013-01-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1358346823.60155.yahoomail...@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, on
01/16/2013
   at 06:33 AM, "Ze'ev Atlas"  said:

>I would do Perl too, but what if you are limited to Rexx and EXECIO 

Then I'd grit my teeth and use parse to split the data. In either case
the real problem is what heuristic to use to decide whether the match
really is the beginning of a record.

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Re: Passing of Chris Mason reported

2013-01-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
,
on 01/15/2013
   at 10:41 PM, John Gilmore  said:

>Shmuel wrote:

>| De mortui

>which is perhaps a botched reference to the Latin tag

>De mortuis nil nisi bonum [dicendum est].

That is the sort of errant pedantry up with which I shall not put.

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Re: Break a dataset into new record boundaries?

2013-01-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1358352865.70255.yahoomail...@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, on
01/16/2013
   at 08:14 AM, "Ze'ev Atlas"  said:

>Don't misunderstand me, I love Rexx... just would want it to have
>better IO and regular expressions (in z/OS - on other platforms 
>Rexx already has this capability, though in POSIX sematics).

>To that end, I've ported PCRE to z/OS

That should be useful, although it would still be nice to have a
current Perl; 4.8.7 is pretty long in the tooth.

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Re: ISPF RC20 on SELECT PGM(xxx) PARM(yyy) clues needed

2013-01-17 Thread Anthony Fletcher
Too embarrassing!

The return code was 20 and the reason code was 40.

40 means that the PGM was not found anywhere in the search set of data
sets.

Someone had removed the essential data set from the LINKLIST without
telling anyone else.

Of course it would have been much easier if the application had shown the
reason code.


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From:   Lizette Koehler 
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu,
Date:   18/01/2013 14:42
Subject:Re: ISPF RC20 on SELECT PGM(xxx) PARM(yyy) clues needed
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List 



So what was the answer?

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf
> Of Anthony Fletcher
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:41 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: ISPF RC20 on SELECT PGM(xxx) PARM(yyy) clues needed
>
> Thanks to all responders. The ISPVCALL one was the easiest and led
straight to the
> answer I needed.
>
>
> regards,
> Anthony Fletcher - NZ MIITP
> Team Lead NZ SMM
> (AirNZ, Westpac NZ , TelstraClear NZ and NWM AU)
>
> IBM Strategic Outsourcing Delivery
> Server Systems Operations
> Server Management Mainframe
>
> Mainframe Software Program Manager  NZ
> z/OS Technical Lead A/NZ
>
> Ph: Direct +64 4 576 8142, tieline 61 929 8142, ITN
*869298142,
> mobile +64 21 464 864, Fax +64 4 576 5808.
> Internet: flet...@nz1.ibm.com, Sametime: flet...@nz1.ibm.com
>
>  "The biggest threat to effective communication is the belief that it has
occurred"
>  "Winners make commitments, Losers make promises"
>
>
>
> From:  Lizette Koehler 
> To:IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu,
> Date:  17/01/2013 17:30
> Subject:   Re: ISPF RC20 on SELECT PGM(xxx) PARM(yyy) clues needed
> Sent by:   IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 
>
>
>
> First, if you have not done so, you can join the ISPF Newsgroup for these
types of
> issues.  https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=ispf-l
>
>
> Second, I would run ISPF TEST and set breakpoints on your process.  The
ISPF
> manuals have some decent descriptions of the ISPF TEST facility.
>
> Other is to issue TSO ISPVCALL which will set up a trace facility.
> Run your process.
> Then issue TSO ISPVCALL which will then unload the trace file.  Then go
through the
> output and find your RC20
>
> Lizette
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On
> Behalf
> > Of Anthony Fletcher
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:49 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: ISPF RC20 on SELECT PGM(xxx) PARM(yyy) clues needed
> >
> > I have some code (that I didn't write) that is coming back with RC 20
> when issuing a
> > command like
> >
> > SELECT PGM(xxx) PARM(yyy)
> >
> > I need some clues as to what it may be objecting to. I have checked
> > all
> the obvious
> > things like IKJTSO00 entries, APF entries, RACF PROGAM class etc, but
> > no
> luck, so I
> > need some ideas as to find out what ISPF is really complaining about.
> >
> > Anyone got any ideas?

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Re: ICSF Symmetric Key being sent to a non-zOS system

2013-01-17 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:39:11 -0800, Phil Smith  wrote:

>Mark Jacobs wrote:
>>I've been reading the ICSF Applications Programmers guide and I understand 
>>the process on how to transport ICSF keys to another zOS system using 
>>importer/exporter keys, but I have no idea on how it would work on a non-zOS 
>>platform.
>
>>Can anyone point me to some doc, or share their process if they've already 
>>done it?
>
>FYI, there's no such thing as an "ICSF key". There are keys of various sorts 
>that ICSF manages, but they aren't ICSF-ized per se. I guess if they're 
>wrapped (encrypted) in a Crypto Express, they could be sort of thought of as 
>being bound to ICSF, but they still are really just 56 or 64 or 128 or 192 or 
>256 or however many bits of key material.
>
>So...having said that, what do you mean by "how it would work on a non-z/OS 
>platform"? How WHAT would work? An AES key is an AES key: if you have an AES 
>algorithm and a key, you can encrypt data, and you'll get the same result on 
>any platform (assuming you're using the same AES mode, etc.).
>
>I feel like I'm taking you to task here, and I don't mean to be - just trying 
>to understand what your real question is!

I read it as, "how would I extract a key from ICSF and send it to a non-z/OS 
system?"

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Re: ISPF RC20 on SELECT PGM(xxx) PARM(yyy) clues needed

2013-01-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
So what was the answer?

Lizette


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> 
> Thanks to all responders. The ISPVCALL one was the easiest and led
straight to the
> answer I needed.
> 
> 
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> 
> From: Lizette Koehler 
> To:   IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu,
> Date: 17/01/2013 17:30
> Subject:  Re: ISPF RC20 on SELECT PGM(xxx) PARM(yyy) clues needed
> Sent by:  IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
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> 
> 
> First, if you have not done so, you can join the ISPF Newsgroup for these
types of
> issues.  https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=ispf-l
> 
> 
> Second, I would run ISPF TEST and set breakpoints on your process.  The
ISPF
> manuals have some decent descriptions of the ISPF TEST facility.
> 
> Other is to issue TSO ISPVCALL which will set up a trace facility.
> Run your process.
> Then issue TSO ISPVCALL which will then unload the trace file.  Then go
through the
> output and find your RC20
> 
> Lizette
> 
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> > Subject: ISPF RC20 on SELECT PGM(xxx) PARM(yyy) clues needed
> >
> > I have some code (that I didn't write) that is coming back with RC 20
> when issuing a
> > command like
> >
> > SELECT PGM(xxx) PARM(yyy)
> >
> > I need some clues as to what it may be objecting to. I have checked
> > all
> the obvious
> > things like IKJTSO00 entries, APF entries, RACF PROGAM class etc, but
> > no
> luck, so I
> > need some ideas as to find out what ISPF is really complaining about.
> >
> > Anyone got any ideas?

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Re: ISPF RC20 on SELECT PGM(xxx) PARM(yyy) clues needed

2013-01-17 Thread Anthony Fletcher
Thanks to all responders. The ISPVCALL one was the easiest and led straight
to the answer I needed.


regards,
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From:   Lizette Koehler 
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu,
Date:   17/01/2013 17:30
Subject:Re: ISPF RC20 on SELECT PGM(xxx) PARM(yyy) clues needed
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List 



First, if you have not done so, you can join the ISPF Newsgroup for these
types of issues.  https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=ispf-l


Second, I would run ISPF TEST and set breakpoints on your process.  The
ISPF manuals have some decent descriptions of the ISPF TEST facility.

Other is to issue TSO ISPVCALL which will set up a trace facility.
Run your process.
Then issue TSO ISPVCALL which will then unload the trace file.  Then go
through the output and find your RC20

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
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> Of Anthony Fletcher
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:49 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: ISPF RC20 on SELECT PGM(xxx) PARM(yyy) clues needed
>
> I have some code (that I didn't write) that is coming back with RC 20
when issuing a
> command like
>
> SELECT PGM(xxx) PARM(yyy)
>
> I need some clues as to what it may be objecting to. I have checked all
the obvious
> things like IKJTSO00 entries, APF entries, RACF PROGAM class etc, but no
luck, so I
> need some ideas as to find out what ISPF is really complaining about.
>
> Anyone got any ideas?
>
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Re: Running the RB chain of an inactive TCB

2013-01-17 Thread Jim Mulder
> >  From the serialization section of SYS1.MACLIB(IHARB):
> > If the task is not running and the local lock is held, the RB 
> chain will not change.
> > 
> >  From APAR PQ81630:
> > PQ76702 introduced code for MVSTCB TCB statistics. DFHDSMT calls
> > DFHDSAUT for these statistics in routine CREATE_SNAPSHOT.
> > DFHDSAUT will loop in routine TCB_SCAN due to not serializing
> > the RB chain. A MVS local lock is not enough to serialize the
> > RB chain.
> 
> When begs the question: if local lock is not enough, what 
> serialization should 
> be used? ;)
> 
> More than likely the RB chain of a dispatchable TCB can be 100% 
> safely traversed 
> only while running in that TCB.
 
  That is correct.

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Re: Running the RB chain of an inactive TCB

2013-01-17 Thread Edward Jaffe

On 1/17/2013 11:12 AM, Mark Henderson wrote:

Can someone explain to me the apparent contradiction in the following two 
pieces of information ?

 From the serialization section of SYS1.MACLIB(IHARB):
If the task is not running and the local lock is held, the RB chain will not 
change.
  
 From APAR PQ81630:

PQ76702 introduced code for MVSTCB TCB statistics. DFHDSMT calls
DFHDSAUT for these statistics in routine CREATE_SNAPSHOT.
DFHDSAUT will loop in routine TCB_SCAN due to not serializing
the RB chain. A MVS local lock is not enough to serialize the
RB chain.


When begs the question: if local lock is not enough, what serialization should 
be used? ;)


More than likely the RB chain of a dispatchable TCB can be 100% safely traversed 
only while running in that TCB.


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Re: Tasks ENQ'ing exclusive on resource not getting control in FIFO order

2013-01-17 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 
01/17/2013 04:42:33 PM:


> It sounds as if the relative CPU speed and/or hypervisor dispatching
> of LPARs may be involved in any given LPAR's getting the resource. 
> If after GRS sends a signal to all enqueing systems that the 
> resource is available it then waits for a response from said 
> systems, it may be that GRS will give the resource to whichever 
> system responded first and is ignoring the order in which the 
> processors did the original ENQs.  Perhaps a timestamp needs to be 
> associated with each ENQ request and the global resource allocator 
> made sensitive to the timestamp.   Or maybe the documentation needs 
> to be updated to reflect the different way that SCOPE=SYSTEMS ENQ 
> works in GRS from SCOPE=SYSTEM with no GRS involved.
> 
> The relative processor speed certainly has been known to affect 
> which of several sharing processors will next get access to a shared
> DASD volume using the RESERVE/RELEASE hardware function.
> 
> Bill Fairchild
> Programmer
> Rocket Software
> 408 Chamberlain Park Lane ? Franklin, TN 37069-2526 ? USA
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> www.rocketsoftware.com
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> -Original Message-
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> ] On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:46 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Tasks ENQ'ing exclusive on resource not getting control in FIFO 
order
> 
> It was my understanding that tasks enqueueing on a resource are 
> getting control in FIFO order, if contention existed. Today, we had 
> a situation where this was not true.
> 
> Environment is as follows:
> 
> - 4 system parallel sysplex, z/OS V1.13, GRS STAR mode.
> - a dozen or so jobs running the same program are active across all 
> 4 systems at a time. More job being submitted as jobs end (more or 
less).
> - the programs are serializing using EXCLUSIVE ENQ on a resource, 
> scope systems
> 
> As expected, one job is running, all others are waiting to get the 
> resource assigned.
> But suddenly, we the recognized that jobs on two systems never got 
> running. They have been waiting for the resource for hours, while 
> newer jobs got control one after the other. So resource assignment 
> is clearly not FIFO. We then saw (in EJES) that once a job ended, 
> all waiting jobs are active for a very short time, then one job 
> continues to run while all other are waiting again.
> 
> I have RTFM, and still think ENQ is FIFO. I have not found anything 
> related to GRS STAR mode that contradicts.
> 
> I have not followed GRS new lately. What am I missing?
> 
> --
> Peter Hunkeler

  GRS resource contention is intended to be processed FIFO, regardless
of Ring mode vs. Star mode. 

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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread Jonathan Goossen
Or you can have something like OPSMVS intercept the WTOR and reply No.

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> From: Steve Conway 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 01/17/2013 03:45 PM
> Subject: Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH
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> 
> Within your JES2PARM, you can specify by JOBCLASS whether to allow 
command 
> processing or not.  I think JES2 gets first whack at saying "No", 
followed 
> by RACF (if JES2 thinks it's OK).
> 
> 
> Cheers,,,Steve
> 
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> LA Systems
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> 
> From:   "R.S." 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date:   01/17/2013 04:34 PM
> Subject:Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH
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> 
> 
> W dniu 2013-01-17 17:06, Ed Gould pisze:
> > Lizette:
> >
> > AND that is only if the JES2 init parms are set up that way. Which of
> > course is a big NONO (security wise).
> >
> 
> Big what-what? AFAIK all commands from job are under OPERCMDS class.
> 
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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread Steve Conway
Within your JES2PARM, you can specify by JOBCLASS whether to allow command 
processing or not.  I think JES2 gets first whack at saying "No", followed 
by RACF (if JES2 thinks it's OK).


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W dniu 2013-01-17 17:06, Ed Gould pisze:
> Lizette:
>
> AND that is only if the JES2 init parms are set up that way. Which of
> course is a big NONO (security wise).
>

Big what-what? AFAIK all commands from job are under OPERCMDS class.



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Re: Tasks ENQ'ing exclusive on resource not getting control in FIFO order

2013-01-17 Thread Bill Fairchild
It sounds as if the relative CPU speed and/or hypervisor dispatching of LPARs 
may be involved in any given LPAR's getting the resource.  If after GRS sends a 
signal to all enqueing systems that the resource is available it then waits for 
a response from said systems, it may be that GRS will give the resource to 
whichever system responded first and is ignoring the order in which the 
processors did the original ENQs.  Perhaps a timestamp needs to be associated 
with each ENQ request and the global resource allocator made sensitive to the 
timestamp.   Or maybe the documentation needs to be updated to reflect the 
different way that SCOPE=SYSTEMS ENQ works in GRS from SCOPE=SYSTEM with no GRS 
involved.

The relative processor speed certainly has been known to affect which of 
several sharing processors will next get access to a shared DASD volume using 
the RESERVE/RELEASE hardware function.

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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Tasks ENQ'ing exclusive on resource not getting control in FIFO order

It was my understanding that tasks enqueueing on a resource are getting control 
in FIFO order, if contention existed. Today, we had a situation where this was 
not true.

Environment is as follows:

- 4 system parallel sysplex, z/OS V1.13, GRS STAR mode.
- a dozen or so jobs running the same program are active across all 4 systems 
at a time. More job being submitted as jobs end (more or less).
- the programs are serializing using EXCLUSIVE ENQ on a resource, scope systems

As expected, one job is running, all others are waiting to get the resource 
assigned.
But suddenly, we the recognized that jobs on two systems never got running. 
They have been waiting for the resource for hours, while newer jobs got control 
one after the other. So resource assignment is clearly not FIFO. We then saw 
(in EJES) that once a job ended, all waiting jobs are active for a very short 
time, then one job continues to run while all other are waiting again.

I have RTFM, and still think ENQ is FIFO. I have not found anything related to 
GRS STAR mode that contradicts.

I have not followed GRS new lately. What am I missing?

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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2013-01-17 17:06, Ed Gould pisze:

Lizette:

AND that is only if the JES2 init parms are set up that way. Which of
course is a big NONO (security wise).



Big what-what? AFAIK all commands from job are under OPERCMDS class.



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Tasks ENQ'ing exclusive on resource not getting control in FIFO order

2013-01-17 Thread Peter Hunkeler
It was my understanding that tasks enqueueing on a resource are getting control 
in FIFO order, if contention existed. Today, we had a situation where this was 
not true.

Environment is as follows:

- 4 system parallel sysplex, z/OS V1.13, GRS STAR mode.
- a dozen or so jobs running the same program are active across all 4 systems 
at a time. More job being submitted as jobs end (more or less).
- the programs are serializing using EXCLUSIVE ENQ on a resource, scope systems

As expected, one job is running, all others are waiting to get the resource 
assigned.
But suddenly, we the recognized that jobs on two systems never got running. 
They have been waiting for the resource for hours, while newer jobs got control 
one after the other. So resource assignment is clearly not FIFO. We then saw 
(in EJES) that once a job ended, all waiting jobs are active for a very short 
time, then one job continues to run while all other are waiting again.

I have RTFM, and still think ENQ is FIFO. I have not found anything related to 
GRS STAR mode that contradicts.

I have not followed GRS new lately. What am I missing?

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Re: ICSF Symmetric Key being sent to a non-zOS system

2013-01-17 Thread Phil Smith
Mark Jacobs wrote:
>I've been reading the ICSF Applications Programmers guide and I understand the 
>process on how to transport ICSF keys to another zOS system using 
>importer/exporter keys, but I have no idea on how it would work on a non-zOS 
>platform.

>Can anyone point me to some doc, or share their process if they've already 
>done it?

FYI, there's no such thing as an "ICSF key". There are keys of various sorts 
that ICSF manages, but they aren't ICSF-ized per se. I guess if they're wrapped 
(encrypted) in a Crypto Express, they could be sort of thought of as being 
bound to ICSF, but they still are really just 56 or 64 or 128 or 192 or 256 or 
however many bits of key material.

So...having said that, what do you mean by "how it would work on a non-z/OS 
platform"? How WHAT would work? An AES key is an AES key: if you have an AES 
algorithm and a key, you can encrypt data, and you'll get the same result on 
any platform (assuming you're using the same AES mode, etc.).

I feel like I'm taking you to task here, and I don't mean to be - just trying 
to understand what your real question is!

Cheers,
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Re: S0C4-4

2013-01-17 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 
01/17/2013 02:33:23 PM:

> From: Richard Verville 
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, 
> Date: 01/17/2013 03:00 PM
> Subject: S0C4-4
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 
> REFRPROT is what is causing my S0C4. I wonder why this is not 
> happening with TS 3.2, the program has the same characteristics 
> (refr,rent etc...) as the one in TS 4.2. Is there a parm on the SVC 
> 08(load) that would change the REFR attribute (or make it ignore it). 
Richard

  REFRPROT protects the full 4K pages of REFR modules.  Possibly
the size of the module increased in TS 4.2 so that the area being
modified now falls within a full 4K page.

  But a semantic point about causality:  REFRPROT is not causing
your 0C4.  YOU are causing your 0C4 by storing into a page
which the program (by specifying REFR) and the installation 
(by specifying REFRPROT) have requested to be protected.
If the program intends that you should modify it,
then it should not be linked with REFR.  If the program does not
intend that you should modify it, then you should not 
modify it.  If you are modifying a program which is not
provided by you, and whose provider does not intend that you 
should modify it, then when you modify it, you may be 
voiding any warranty from the provider of the program. 
Is that disclosed to all users of your program? 



Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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ICSF Symmetric Key being sent to a non-zOS system

2013-01-17 Thread Mark Jacobs
I've been reading the ICSF Applications Programmers guide and I 
understand the process on how to transport ICSF keys to another zOS 
system using importer/exporter keys, but I have no idea on how it would 
work on a non-zOS platform.


Can anyone point me to some doc, or share their process if they've 
already done it?


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The loud ones only take the credit.

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Re: Running the RB chain of an inactive TCB

2013-01-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 January 2013 14:12, Mark Henderson  wrote:
> Can someone explain to me the apparent contradiction in the following two 
> pieces of information ?
>
> From the serialization section of SYS1.MACLIB(IHARB):
> If the task is not running and the local lock is held, the RB chain will not 
> change.
>
> From APAR PQ81630:
> PQ76702 introduced code for MVSTCB TCB statistics. DFHDSMT calls
> DFHDSAUT for these statistics in routine CREATE_SNAPSHOT.
> DFHDSAUT will loop in routine TCB_SCAN due to not serializing
> the RB chain. A MVS local lock is not enough to serialize the
> RB chain.

Perhaps you're not seeing the "and" in the first quote?

Tony H.

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S0C4-4

2013-01-17 Thread Richard Verville
REFRPROT is what is causing my S0C4. I wonder why this is not happening with TS 
3.2, the program has the same characteristics (refr,rent etc...) as the one in 
TS 4.2. Is there a parm on the SVC 08(load) that would change the REFR 
attribute (or make it ignore it). Richard

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Re: silicon photonics - faster than copper

2013-01-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 January 2013 12:31, Martin, Larry D  wrote:
> But light doesn't create heat; thus more circuits in a smaller 
> space..

You've never sat out in the sun, I take it...

Tony H.

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Re: DFHSM CDS size versus multi-cluster

2013-01-17 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Lizette,

What is the freespace(nn,nn) parameter in your CDS VSAM define?

I suspect you are running with something like 50,50 based on your comment. If 
you are 96% full with 62% freespace that tells me that a section of your CDS is 
experiencing a lot of activity and will drive the file to 100%. Probably at the 
most inopportune time.

Splits for a HSM CDS should not be a concern. It's not like anyone is waiting 
with bated breath for a migrate or backup to finish.

Like any other VSAM KSDS, the HSM CDSs need to be re-organized from time to 
time.

Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: Lizette Koehler [stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:27 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFHSM CDS size versus multi-cluster

I think if you issue the command F dfhsm,Q CDS you may find in the ARC0148I
messages that there are two pieces of information to explain if your file
needs to be reorg'd

First is the number you get is %Full.  However there is a second number
%Freespace.

What I have seen in my shop is we are running 96% full.  However we have 62%
freespace.  Which to me does not indicate a need to reorg.

According to IBM and Share presentations, the xCDS files should not be
reorg'd.  That when you reorg an xCDS HSM has to starting splitting the
files again which will slow down the process for a little bit.  Once enough
splits occur so there is room to insert records, it is fine.

So the questions are
1) Is the xCDS so big it needs a reorg?
2) Do I need to resize the xCDS dataset?

Once those are answered, you can figure out when to take an outage on HSM.

The other option is to change from VSAM to VSAM RLS structure for your xCDS
datasets.  You may also wish to review if the Journal dataset should be
changed as well.

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf
> Of af dc
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:20 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: DFHSM CDS size versus multi-cluster
>
> Hello,
> I'm running z/os V1.12 and I've got my BCDS filled with 85%. It's size is
> 6500 CYLS with no SEC space.
> VSAM characteristics are:
> SHROPTNS(3,3)   RECOVERY UNIQUE   NOERASE
> UNORDERED   TEMP-EXP NOREUSE   NONSPANNED
>
> INDEXED   NOWRITECHK NOIMBED   NOREPLICAT
> EXTENDEDEXT-ADDR
>
> In a short time I'll have to create a new BCDS, so, in your opinion what's
advisable to
> have (performance aspect, backup considerations?, etc)??
>  1) a bigger BCDS or
>  2) multi cluster
>
> Note:
> - DFHSM cdss are shared among 3 lpars
>
> Any hint is welcome?
> Many thx, Antonio Cecilio.
>
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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread retired mainframer
I believe ISMF shows the status in the SCDS while the D command shows the
status in the ACDS.  VARY commands update the ACDS but you need to manually
update the SCDS if you want the change to be reflected in the next ACTIVATE.

:>: -Original Message-
:>: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
:>: Behalf Of John Dawes
:>: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:54 AM
:>: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
:>: Subject: Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH
:>:
:>: Boris,
:>:
:>: I tried out your suggestion and it ran well.  When I run the command to
:>: query the status of the storage group D SMS,SG(CICSSG01),LISTVOL it
:>: shows that the VOLUME is D.
:>: However, when I check via ISMF it shows that it is in ENABLE status (col
:>: 25).  I cannot understand which status is right or why there is a
:>: discrepancy between the two.

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Running the RB chain of an inactive TCB

2013-01-17 Thread Mark Henderson
Can someone explain to me the apparent contradiction in the following two 
pieces of information ? 

From the serialization section of SYS1.MACLIB(IHARB):
If the task is not running and the local lock is held, the RB chain will not 
change. 
 
From APAR PQ81630:
PQ76702 introduced code for MVSTCB TCB statistics. DFHDSMT calls
DFHDSAUT for these statistics in routine CREATE_SNAPSHOT.
DFHDSAUT will loop in routine TCB_SCAN due to not serializing
the RB chain. A MVS local lock is not enough to serialize the
RB chain.

Thanks in advance, Mark.

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Download the Redbook: Batch Modernization on z/OS

2013-01-17 Thread Ed Gould

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247779.pdf



Mainframe computers play a central role in the daily operations of  
many of the world's largest corporations, and batch processing is a  
fundamental part of the workloads that run on the mainframe. A large  
portion of the workload on IBM® z/OS® systems is processed in batch  
mode.
Although several IBM Redbooks® publications discuss application  
modernization on the IBM z/OS platform, this book specifically  
addresses batch processing in detail.


Many different technologies are available in a batch environment on z/ 
OS systems. This book demonstrates these technologies and shows how  
the z/OS system offers a sophisticated environment for batch. In this  
practical book, we discuss a variety of themes that are of importance  
for batch workloads on z/OS systems and offer examples that you can  
try on your own system. The book also includes a chapter on future  
developments in batch processing. 
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Bounds Checking [Was Re: Java Security?]

2013-01-17 Thread Tom Ross
>>If I remember rightly Pascal does bounds checking. Pascal was one of the=20
>>languages I did at college - and the highest-level one. A bit of a shock=20
>>to me to discover - in an IBM Systems Engineer training homework=20
>>assignment - that COBOL didn't. (This was in 1986.) The result was me=20

>What about SSRANGE? Wasn't there an equivalent for FCOBOL as well as=20
>VS/COBOL?

There was SSRANGE available in 1986, but in VS COBOL II Release 1, which was
not quite ready for prime-time.  VS COBOL II Release 3 was the first VS COBOL II
that gained wide acceptance and it shipped in 1988.  In 1986 most people were
still using OS/VS COBOL, which had no help for bounds checking on subscripts.

Cheers,
TomR  >> COBOL is the Language of the Future! <<

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Re: DFHSM CDS size versus multi-cluster

2013-01-17 Thread Ed Gould

David:

I was assigned the job (many years ago) to speed up the process (we  
did it weekly) with some tinkering of JCL  parameters I think (If I  
recall correctly) we got it down to 20 minutes (to tape). It wasn't  
hard.


Ed

On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:37 AM, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote:

To each his own but wouldn't an Export/Import be more efficient.  
There's no additional file to define, no jcl to change or files to  
rename.


Besides the sample jcl is provided in sys1.samplib(ARCSTRST).  
HSMPRESS is located at the end of the member.


-Original Message-
From: Staller, Allan [mailto:allan.stal...@kbmg.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:27 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFHSM CDS size versus multi-cluster

Probably needs to be re-orged. Define a "new cluster" shut down HSM 
(all LPARS) and repro. You will probably be amazed at how small the  
re-orged dataset will be.


That being said, my  DFHSM CDS's are defined as VSAM extended  
format dataset in a "do nothing" SMS management class and storage  
group.

Concurrent copy will greatly improve the speed of CDS backups.
Works great.

HTH,


I'm running z/os V1.12 and I've got my BCDS filled with 85%. It's  
size is

6500 CYLS with no SEC space.
VSAM characteristics are:
SHROPTNS(3,3)   RECOVERY UNIQUE   NOERASE
UNORDERED   TEMP-EXP NOREUSE   NONSPANNED

INDEXED   NOWRITECHK NOIMBED   NOREPLICAT
EXTENDEDEXT-ADDR

In a short time I'll have to create a new BCDS, so, in your opinion  
what's advisable to have (performance aspect, backup  
considerations?, etc)??

 1) a bigger BCDS or
 2) multi cluster

Note:
- DFHSM cdss are shared among 3 lpars


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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread John Dawes
Boris,
 
I tried out your suggestion and it ran well.  When I run the command to query 
the status of the storage group D SMS,SG(CICSSG01),LISTVOL it shows that the 
VOLUME is D.
However, when I check via ISMF it shows that it is in ENABLE status (col 25).  
I cannot understand which status is right or why there is a discrepancy between 
the two.



From: Boris Lenz 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2013 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

John,

your command wasn't found because VARY is an MVS command, not a TSO command, 
and IKJEFT01 is TSO.

If, as others pointed out, the // COMMAND suggestion doesn't work due to 
authorization issues or timing issues, you may want to try it in TSO batch 
again, using the CONSOLE command (for which you're authorized maybe).

Something like this:

//your-jobcard JOB ...                                              
//STEP01    EXEC  PGM=IEBUPDTE,PARM=NEW                              
//SYSPRINT  DD  DUMMY                                                
//SYSUT2    DD  DISP=(,PASS),SPACE=(TRK,(1,1)),                      
//          RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,DSORG=PO,DSNTYPE=LIBRARY              
//SYSIN    DD  DATA,DLM='¬¬'                                        
./ ADD NAME=MVSCMD                                                  
/* rexx */                                                          
/* issues MVS commands */                                            
arg dd                                                              
call ReadInput                                                      
if result ^= 0 then exit result                                      
call CountCmds                                                      
say "# of MVS commands to issue: "result                            
cartpfx = userid                                                    
cartcnt = 0                                                          
address tso                                                          
do k = 1 to inplines.0                                              
"CONSOLE ACTIVATE NAME("userid"Z)"                                  
'CONSPROF SOLDISP(NO) UNSOLDISP(NO) SOLNUM(1024) UNSOLNUM(1024)'    
conscmd = inplines.k                                                
'CONSOLE SYSCMD('conscmd') CART('conscart')'                        
gc = getmsg('R.','SOL',conscart,,5)                                
if gc = 4 then gc = getmsg('R.','EITHER',conscart,,5)              
if gc = 0 then do                                                  
    say "        Issuing command #"k"..."                          
    say "        "conscmd                                          
    do i = 1 to r.0                                                  
      conscmdn = r.mdbgtimh ""r.i                                  
      say conscmdn                                                  
    end                                                              
if gc > 0 then say 'Unable to retrieve message - GETMSG RC:' gc    
end                                                                
'CONSPROF SOLDISP(YES) UNSOLDISP(YES) SOLNUM(1000) UNSOLNUM(1000)'  
'CONSOLE DEACTIVATE'                                                
end                                                                  
exit                                                                
/**/                                                                
CountCmds: procedure expose inplines.                                
  j = 0                                                              
  do i = 1 to inplines.0                                            
    if (left(inplines.i,2) ^= "&&") then j=j+1                      
  end                                                                
return j                                                            
/**/                                                                
ReadInput: procedure expose dd inplines.                            
maxcc = 0                                                            
  address mvs "EXECIO * DISKR "dd" (STEM INPLINES. FINIS"            
  if rc ^= 0 then do                                                
    say "RXLENZ01 ERROR READING INPUT FROM DD "dd                    
    maxcc = 16                                                      
  end                                                                
  if inplines.0 = 0 then do                                          
    say "RXLENZ02 NO INPUT PROVIDED IN DD "dd                        
    maxcc = 16                                                      
  end                                                                
return maxcc                                                        
/**/                                                                
¬¬                                                      
//*                                                      
//STEP02   

Re: silicon photonics - faster than copper

2013-01-17 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Jan 17, 2013, at 11:23 AM, retired mainframer  
wrote:

> Don't both
> electricity and light move at c?

In a vacuum, light moves at c. In a fiber optic cable, you divide c by the 
index of refraction. That's usually in the range of 1.5, so the light is 
traveling about (2/3)c.

The speed of electrical signals is a bit more complicated. It's been almost 30 
years since I took electromagnetism so I'm not going to try to explain it; I'm 
sure I'd get it wrong. It will be less than c too, though.

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Re: silicon photonics - faster than copper

2013-01-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:23:37 -0800, retired mainframer wrote:

>While photonic components (switches, etc) may be faster than the current
>semi-conductor ones, can the wiring really be a factor.  Don't both
>electricity and light move at c?

No.  Electrical signals propagate at about half the speed of light.
IIRC, inductance and capacitance play a role  too, so the exact 
speed depends upon the materials used.

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Re: silicon photonics - faster than copper

2013-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:31:58 -0500, Martin, Larry D wrote:

>But light doesn't create heat; thus more circuits in a smaller 
>space..
>
Drat!  Dashing everyone's hopes of solar energy.

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Re: silicon photonics - faster than copper

2013-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:23:37 -0800, retired mainframer wrote:

>While photonic components (switches, etc) may be faster than the current
>semi-conductor ones, can the wiring really be a factor.  Don't both
>electricity and light move at c?
> 
Depends on the medium.  In diamond, light moves at c/2.417.  Electricity
in a wire moves (paradoxically) at the speed of light in the insulation,
perhaps 0.7 c. (Roughly; and all frequency dependent.  Makes it hard to
keep the bits together.)

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Re: silicon photonics - faster than copper

2013-01-17 Thread Martin, Larry D
But light doesn't create heat; thus more circuits in a smaller 
space..

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While photonic components (switches, etc) may be faster than the current 
semi-conductor ones, can the wiring really be a factor.  Don't both electricity 
and light move at c?

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:>: Behalf Of John McKown
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:>:
:>: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/446722/intel_prepares_use_lasers
:>: _light_shuffle_data_between_computers/
:>: 
:>: Intel is taking the first steps to implement thin fiber optics that
:>: will use lasers and light as a faster way to move data inside
:>: computers, replacing the older and slower electrical wiring technology
:>: found in most computers today.
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Re: silicon photonics - faster than copper

2013-01-17 Thread Tony B. AOL Mozilla
ISTM that the weaponry used by the Starship Enterprise was termed 
"photon torpedoes."  Quite effective in their day (whoa, "their day" 
hasn't occurred yet!




On 1/17/2013 11:23 AM, retired mainframer wrote:

While photonic components (switches, etc) may be faster than the current
semi-conductor ones, can the wiring really be a factor.  Don't both
electricity and light move at c?

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:>: Behalf Of John McKown
:>: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:25 AM
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:>: Subject: OT: silicon photonics - faster than copper
:>:
:>: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/446722/intel_prepares_use_lasers
:>: _light_shuffle_data_between_computers/
:>: 
:>: Intel is taking the first steps to implement thin fiber optics that
:>: will use lasers and light as a faster way to move data inside
:>: computers, replacing the older and slower electrical wiring technology
:>: found in most computers today.
:>: 

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Re: silicon photonics - faster than copper

2013-01-17 Thread retired mainframer
While photonic components (switches, etc) may be faster than the current
semi-conductor ones, can the wiring really be a factor.  Don't both
electricity and light move at c?

:>: -Original Message-
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:>: Behalf Of John McKown
:>: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:25 AM
:>: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
:>: Subject: OT: silicon photonics - faster than copper
:>:
:>: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/446722/intel_prepares_use_lasers
:>: _light_shuffle_data_between_computers/
:>: 
:>: Intel is taking the first steps to implement thin fiber optics that
:>: will use lasers and light as a faster way to move data inside
:>: computers, replacing the older and slower electrical wiring technology
:>: found in most computers today.
:>: 

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Re: Mocha TN3270 on Android now available

2013-01-17 Thread Jim McAlpine
Is there a Cisco IPSEC client available for Android ?

Jim McAlpine

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Edward Jaffe
wrote:

>  Original Message 
> Subject:Mocha TN3270 on Android now available
> Date:   Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:56:49 -0500
> From:   Tony Thigpen 
> Reply-To:   VSE Discussion List 
> To: vmes...@listserv.uark.edu ,
> vs...@lehigh.edu 
>
>
>
> For two years I have been waiting for a TN3270 client for my droid. One
> guy released something about 6 months ago, but the user interface was
> poor. About once every 6 months, I emailed Mocha to see if they were
> doing anything, but every time they replied "we don't see a market,
> maybe you should consider an iPhone".
>
> Well, today, I did my 'ever so often' scan for TN3270 on Droid and this
> time I got a hit from where else but Mocha!
> http://mochasoft.dk/android_**3270.htm
> I have installed the trial version on my phone and it actually looks
> good (based on 5 minutes of playing).
>
> It may need a little refinement (like named connections) but at least we
> have something.
>
> I guess there is a Santa Claus.
>
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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread Darth Keller
Have you ever looked at using Naviquest to issue your SMS commands?   You 
can generate the JCL through the ISMF panels.

ISMF; 
ENHANCED ACS MANAGEMENT; 
BATCH TESTING/CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT SELECTION MENU;
CONFIGURATION CHANGES BATCH SAMPLES SELECTION MENU;
Change Storage Group Volume Status 
Comment from the generated JCL:  SAMPLE JCL TO ADD NEW VOLUMES AND 
THEIR STATUS


An example from my JCL library: 
Note:  MY_ID would be where I specify my TSO userID; 
SGPAL in this example is the storage group name. 
SCDS name is pretty much self-documented.


//ADDVOL1 EXEC ACBJBAOB, 
//PLIB1='SYS1.DGTPLIB', 
//TABL2=MY_ID.TEST.ISPTABL 
//SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=* 
//TEMPFILE  DD  DSN=&&VOLADDS,DISP=(NEW,KEEP), 
//  SPACE=(CYL,(15,15)),LRECL=300,RECFM=F,BLKSIZE=300 
//SYSTSIN  DD * 
PROFILE PREFIX(MY_ID) 
ISPSTART CMD(ACBQBAI9) + 
BATSCRW(132) BATSCRD(27) BREDIMAX(3) BDISPMAX() 
/* 
//VOLADD  DD  * 
UPDHLVLSCDS() 
SCDSNAME('SMS.SCDS01.SCDS') VOL(PALF00) SG(SGPAL) STATUSALL(DISNEW) 
SCDSNAME('SMS.SCDS01.SCDS') VOL(PALF01) SG(SGPAL) STATUSALL(DISNEW) 
/* 
//VOLALT  DD  * 
/* 
//VOLDEL  DD * 
 /* 
 //ADDVOL2 EXEC ACBJBAOB, 
 //PLIB1='SYS1.DGTPLIB', 
 //TABL2=MY_ID.TEST.ISPTABL 
 //SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=* 
 //SYSTSIN  DD DSN=&&VOLADDS,DISP=(OLD,DELETE) 
 //***   



I am trying to execute the following command via batch however I was 
unsuccessful : COMMAND VARY NOT FOUND
 
Could anybody suggest how I can correct my problem:
 
/* 
//STEP001 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSIN  DD *
VARY SMS,VOLUME(SMC1G5),DISABLE,NEW
/* 
//  

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Re: Mocha TN3270 on Android now available

2013-01-17 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2013-01-17 17:02, Grinsell, Don pisze:

You can still get real coax in Poland?  I'm jealous.


I still use coax. :-)
Really, my consoles are still connected to 3174's.
I created alternative (ICC) and waiting several years for 3174 failure.


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Re: SMP Apply Question

2013-01-17 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Matt, 
I think about the best you can do is LIST SYSMODS FORFMID(HSMA135,HSMA136) (or 
whichever FMIDs you want) and exclude them manually. 
There was a SHARE requirement many years ago asking for this function, but at 
the time it was rejected because IBM didn't think they could provide it in the 
timeframe. It might be worth another try. 

Mary Anne 

On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:46:28 -0500, Dazzo, Matt  wrote:

>I have a shared global zone between lpars with targets for each lpar. I am 
>applying RSU maint, one lpar has osmf on it and one does not. What I would 
>like to do is on one lpar is exclude applying the ptf's for the fmids 
>pertaining to osmf but apply all the other ptf's in the RSU package I pulled 
>down.  I have looked in the smp commands guide on the apply command and saw 
>that the you can't EXCLUDE by FMID? Any suggestions on excluding ptf's for 
>certain FMID's?
>
>Thanks Matt

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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread Boris Lenz
John,

your command wasn't found because VARY is an MVS command, not a TSO command, 
and IKJEFT01 is TSO.

If, as others pointed out, the // COMMAND suggestion doesn't work due to 
authorization issues or timing issues, you may want to try it in TSO batch 
again, using the CONSOLE command (for which you're authorized maybe).

Something like this:

//your-jobcard JOB ...   
//STEP01EXEC  PGM=IEBUPDTE,PARM=NEW  
//SYSPRINT  DD  DUMMY
//SYSUT2DD  DISP=(,PASS),SPACE=(TRK,(1,1)),  
//  RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,DSORG=PO,DSNTYPE=LIBRARY   
//SYSIN DD  DATA,DLM='¬¬'
./ ADD NAME=MVSCMD   
/* rexx */   
/* issues MVS commands */
arg dd   
call ReadInput   
if result ^= 0 then exit result  
call CountCmds   
say "# of MVS commands to issue: "result 
cartpfx = userid 
cartcnt = 0  
address tso  
do k = 1 to inplines.0   
 "CONSOLE ACTIVATE NAME("userid"Z)"  
 'CONSPROF SOLDISP(NO) UNSOLDISP(NO) SOLNUM(1024) UNSOLNUM(1024)'
 conscmd = inplines.k
 'CONSOLE SYSCMD('conscmd') CART('conscart')'
 gc = getmsg('R.','SOL',conscart,,5) 
 if gc = 4 then gc = getmsg('R.','EITHER',conscart,,5)   
 if gc = 0 then do   
say " Issuing command #"k"..."   
say " "conscmd   
do i = 1 to r.0  
   conscmdn = r.mdbgtimh ""r.i   
   say conscmdn  
end  
 if gc > 0 then say 'Unable to retrieve message - GETMSG RC:' gc 
 end 
 'CONSPROF SOLDISP(YES) UNSOLDISP(YES) SOLNUM(1000) UNSOLNUM(1000)'  
 'CONSOLE DEACTIVATE'
end  
exit 
/**/ 
CountCmds: procedure expose inplines.
  j = 0  
  do i = 1 to inplines.0 
if (left(inplines.i,2) ^= "&&") then j=j+1   
  end
return j 
/**/ 
ReadInput: procedure expose dd inplines. 
maxcc = 0
  address mvs "EXECIO * DISKR "dd" (STEM INPLINES. FINIS"
  if rc ^= 0 then do 
say "RXLENZ01 ERROR READING INPUT FROM DD "dd
maxcc = 16   
  end
  if inplines.0 = 0 then do  
say "RXLENZ02 NO INPUT PROVIDED IN DD "dd
maxcc = 16   
  end
return maxcc 
/**/ 
¬¬   
//*  
//STEP02EXEC  PGM=IKJEFT01,PARM='%MVSCMD MVSCMDS'
//SYSEXEC   DD  DSN=*.STEP01.SYSUT2,DISP=(OLD,DELETE)
//SYSTSPRT  DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSIN   DD  DUMMY
//MVSCMDS   DD * 
VARY SMS,VOLUME(SMC1G5),DISABLE,NEW 
//


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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread David Devine
An alternative way to skin this particular cat would be to use batch sdsf.

//JS0015   EXEC PGM=SDSF   
//ISFOUT   DD   SYSOUT=*   
//ISFINDD   *  
/RO *ALL,D SMS,SG(STANDARD),LISTVOL
/* 

The command string is limited to 42 chars so not great, but has the benefit in 
that if you can issue commands via sdsf you can use this.

Dave

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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread John Dawes
One question,  When I run the job don't I need the EXEC  PGM=x in order to 
issue the command ?  I checked the manual for an example but it just displays 
the actual COMMAND.
 Examples of the COMMAND StatementExample 1The following shows an example 
COMMAND statement with the START command.// COMMAND ’S VTAM’ start VTAMExample 
2The following is an example of a command that is continued with the command
operand in apostrophes.// COMMAND ’SEND ’’This message will be sent to user 
SCOTTC
// when this job is converted’’,USER=(SCOTTC)’



From: Steve Thompson 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2013 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

From:  Lizette Koehler
Date:  01/17/2013 09:42 AM


Well, if you must do JCL, then you need to use the JCL statement for 
COMMAND
not IKJEFT01.  Vary does not work under it.

It might work under OPER in TSO.

But, I find, //  COMMAND,VARY

COMMAND Statement

z/OS V1R12.0 MVS JCL Reference
SA22-7597-14


Lizette's directive is a good one. You can also do the following:

//  VARY .

But in all of these, you will need to ensure that you have Security 
authority to issue commands via JCL.

This authority can be effected in a few ways.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread Ed Gould

Lizette:

AND that is only if the JES2 init parms are set up that way. Which of  
course is a big NONO (security wise).


Ed


On Jan 17, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote:

Well, if you must do JCL, then you need to use the JCL statement  
for COMMAND

not IKJEFT01.  Vary does not work under it.

It might work under OPER in TSO.

But, I find, //  COMMAND,VARY

COMMAND Statement

z/OS V1R12.0 MVS JCL Reference
SA22-7597-14

Purpose

Use the COMMAND statement to specify an MVS™ or JES command that  
the system

issues when the submitted JCL is converted.

The COMMAND statement is the preferred way within the job control  
language
to specify commands, rather than using the JCL command statement,  
which is
described in JCL Command Statement. That is because the COMMAND  
statement is
in standard JCL statement format, is parsed and processed using  
code common

to the other JCL statements, and if necessary may be continued across
multiple card images, that is, is not limited to 80 characters.  
Note that
some MVS subsystems, including TSO, JES2, and JES3, offer  
additional ways to
enter system commands outside JCL, which may be preferable under  
certain

circumstances.


Acceptable

Lizette


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Subject: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

G'Day,

I am trying to execute the following command via batch however I was

unsuccessful :

COMMAND VARY NOT FOUND

Could anybody suggest how I can correct my problem:

/*
//STEP001 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN  DD *
VARY SMS,VOLUME(SMC1G5),DISABLE,NEW
/*
//

Thanks in advance.



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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Jan 17, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Lizette Koehler  wrote:

> Use the COMMAND statement to specify an MVST or JES command that the system
> issues when the submitted JCL is converted.

It's important to note that the command is issued when the JCL is converted, 
usually shortly after the job is submitted, and not when the job is executing. 
This may not be what you want; for example, you may wish the command to be 
issued after step A but before step B.

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Re: Mocha TN3270 on Android now available

2013-01-17 Thread Grinsell, Don
You can still get real coax in Poland?  I'm jealous.

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While pointing device could accepted with some reserve, I absolutely don't any 
device with "stroked" interface. Keyboard is a must, a cable is a must also, 
preferrably coaxial.
;-)

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SMP Apply Question

2013-01-17 Thread Dazzo, Matt
I have a shared global zone between lpars with targets for each lpar. I am 
applying RSU maint, one lpar has osmf on it and one does not. What I would like 
to do is on one lpar is exclude applying the ptf's for the fmids pertaining to 
osmf but apply all the other ptf's in the RSU package I pulled down.  I have 
looked in the smp commands guide on the apply command and saw that the you 
can't EXCLUDE by FMID? Any suggestions on excluding ptf's for certain FMID's?

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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread Steve Thompson
From:   Lizette Koehler
Date:   01/17/2013 09:42 AM


Well, if you must do JCL, then you need to use the JCL statement for 
COMMAND
not IKJEFT01.  Vary does not work under it.

It might work under OPER in TSO.

But, I find, //  COMMAND,VARY

COMMAND Statement

z/OS V1R12.0 MVS JCL Reference
SA22-7597-14


Lizette's directive is a good one. You can also do the following:

//  VARY .

But in all of these, you will need to ensure that you have Security 
authority to issue commands via JCL.

This authority can be effected in a few ways.

Regards,
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Re: Sterling-ConnectDirect

2013-01-17 Thread Juergen Keller
thats in our NETMAP as we still have SNA-Nodes (most LU6.2)
 
===
SELECT NETWORK MAP 
===
   
Node Name   : nodeVTAM Applid   : appl
Max Parsess : 6   Def Ses Class : 1
Session Type: SNA Environment   :  
API Applids : NDMUSRA  NDMUSRB  NDMUSRC  NDMUSRD  NDMUSRE  
  NDMUSRF  NDMUSRG  NDMUSRH  NDMUSRI  NDMUSRJ  
  NDMUSRK  NDMUSRL  NDMUSRM  NDMUSRN  NDMUSRO  
  NDMUSRP  NDMUSRQ  NDMUSRR  NDMUSRS  NDMUSRT  
  NDMUSRU  NDMUSRV  NDMUSRW  NDMUSRX  NDMUSRY  
  NDMUSRZ  
Node Status : INTERNAL, SEND, RECEIVE  
  Session Snode Max : 255  

SNA was unchanged when adding TCP. TCP was 'addon'

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Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
Well, if you must do JCL, then you need to use the JCL statement for COMMAND
not IKJEFT01.  Vary does not work under it.

It might work under OPER in TSO.

But, I find, //  COMMAND,VARY

COMMAND Statement

z/OS V1R12.0 MVS JCL Reference
SA22-7597-14

Purpose

Use the COMMAND statement to specify an MVS™ or JES command that the system
issues when the submitted JCL is converted.

The COMMAND statement is the preferred way within the job control language
to specify commands, rather than using the JCL command statement, which is
described in JCL Command Statement. That is because the COMMAND statement is
in standard JCL statement format, is parsed and processed using code common
to the other JCL statements, and if necessary may be continued across
multiple card images, that is, is not limited to 80 characters. Note that
some MVS subsystems, including TSO, JES2, and JES3, offer additional ways to
enter system commands outside JCL, which may be preferable under certain
circumstances.


Acceptable

Lizette

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Behalf
> Of John Dawes
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:31 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH
> 
> G'Day,
> 
> I am trying to execute the following command via batch however I was
unsuccessful :
> COMMAND VARY NOT FOUND
> 
> Could anybody suggest how I can correct my problem:
> 
> /*
> //STEP001 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSTSIN  DD *
> VARY SMS,VOLUME(SMC1G5),DISABLE,NEW
> /*
> //
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 

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SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-17 Thread John Dawes
G'Day,
 
I am trying to execute the following command via batch however I was 
unsuccessful : COMMAND VARY NOT FOUND
 
Could anybody suggest how I can correct my problem:
 
/* 
//STEP001 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01    
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSIN  DD *    
VARY SMS,VOLUME(SMC1G5),DISABLE,NEW    
/* 
//  
 
Thanks in advance.  

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Re: Sterling-ConnectDirect

2013-01-17 Thread Ron Wells
is what I have <<


... and something more from the INIT-deck
   TCP = OES  /* OES  - USE IBM OPEN EDITION SOCKETS   */
  TCP.LISTEN=(ANYADDR, 1364)  /* SINGLE IPV4 LISTEN   */ 
  TCP.API.LISTEN=(ANYADDR , 1363) 
 TCP.TIMER = 120  /* WAIT TIME FOR DATA READ   */
 TCP.FMH.TIMER = 00:03:00 /* WAIT TIME FOR FMH READ*/
TCP.RUNTASK.TIMER = 00:05:00 /* WAIT TIME - SNODE RUNTASK TO COMP  */

>> maybe ??

noticed the Node names I usedboth sidesare also defined as VTAM 
node names

Node Name   : NDMPRD  VTAM Applid   : NDMPRD2 
Max Parsess : 14  Def Ses Class : 2 
Session Type: SNA Environment   : 
API Applids : NDMPRDI0 NDMPRDI1 NDMPRDI2 NDMPRDI3 NDMPRDI4 
  NDMPRDI5 NDMPRDI6 NDMPRDI7 NDMPRDI8 NDMPRDI9 
Node Status : INTERNAL, SEND, RECEIVE 
  Session Snode Max : 255 

Do these have to be defines with Diff. names as ADJ definitions???







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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:   01/17/2013 08:49 AM
Subject:Re: Sterling-ConnectDirect
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hello Ron,

unfortunately my C:D-colleague is on holiday but I will try to answer your 
question

That's what he has defines in NETMAP:

/*  THE FOLLOWING IS TCP/IP DEFAULT ENTRY AND MUST NOT BE  */
/*  REMOVED IF TCP/IP IS TO BE USED (TCP=IBM OR TCP=SNS IN THE */
/*  INITPARMS).*/
  ADJACENT.NODE = ((TCP.IP.DEFAULT, , , TCP)) 

  ADJACENT.NODE=( (node,1364,ip-addr,TCP) -
  PARSESS=(10 1) - 
  ENVIRONMENT=OS390 - 
) 

  ADJACENT.NODE=( (node,1364,ip-addr,TCP) -
  ENVIRONMENT=WINDOWS - 
) 

  ADJACENT.NODE=( (node,1364,ip-addr,TCP) -
  PARSESS=(10 1)  - 
  ENVIRONMENT=UNIX - 
) 

  ADJACENT.NODE=( (node,1364,ip-addr,TCP,) - 
  PARSESS=(2 1) - 
  ENVIRONMENT=OS400 - 
) 

  ADJACENT.NODE=( (node,1364,ip-addr,TCP) - 
   ALTERNATE.COMMINFO=(ALT.TYPE=TCP,ALT.ADDR=ip-addr) -
ENVIRONMENT=NT - 
  ) 

and the JCL ...

//NDM EXEC PGM=DMINIT, 
//PARM='&NDMPREF..PARMLIB(&PARMMEM)',
//*   REGION=16M, 
//REGION=0M, 
//TIME=1440 
//*   TIME=1 
//INCLUDE MEMBER=TCPDATA 

TCPDATA

//SYSTCPD  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=

which contains ... (I think you already have one ...)

TCPIPJOBNAME TCPIP 
HOSTNAME  xxx 
DATASETPREFIX  
DOMAINORIGIN  
NSINTERADDR ip-addr 
RESOLVERTIMEOUT 1 

I hope that helps

regards Juergen

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Re: Sterling-ConnectDirect

2013-01-17 Thread Juergen Keller
... and something more from the INIT-deck
   TCP = OES  /* OES  - USE IBM OPEN EDITION SOCKETS   */
  TCP.LISTEN=(ANYADDR, 1364)  /* SINGLE IPV4 LISTEN   */ 
  TCP.API.LISTEN=(ANYADDR , 1363)
 TCP.TIMER = 120  /* WAIT TIME FOR DATA READ   */
 TCP.FMH.TIMER = 00:03:00 /* WAIT TIME FOR FMH READ*/
TCP.RUNTASK.TIMER = 00:05:00 /* WAIT TIME - SNODE RUNTASK TO COMP  */

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Re: MGCRE problem

2013-01-17 Thread Ward, Mike S
Never mind I figured it out.

UNKNIDS and INTIDS


Thanks
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Subject: MGCRE problem

Hello all,

We are testing on a z/OS V1.13 system. I have a program that I wrote that uses 
the MGCRE service in order to execute internal commands. The program works the 
command is executed and the command and its output is placed into the hardcopy 
log. The problem I am having is that on the V1.11 and prior the command and its 
output displayed on the master console as well as the hardcopy log. Now the 
command and its output do not display on the master console only on the 
hardcopy log. I reviewed the consol00 member and the parameters, but I do not 
see anything in the init and tuning guide for console that might fix this 
problem. I also reviewed the mgcre macro for any additional parameters.

Am I missing something simple, or do the internal commands issued by MGCRE no 
longer display on the master console?


Any help appreciated and thanks in advance.

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Re: Sterling-ConnectDirect

2013-01-17 Thread Juergen Keller
hello Ron,

unfortunately my C:D-colleague is on holiday but I will try to answer your 
question

That's what he has defines in NETMAP:

/*  THE FOLLOWING IS TCP/IP DEFAULT ENTRY AND MUST NOT BE  */
/*  REMOVED IF TCP/IP IS TO BE USED (TCP=IBM OR TCP=SNS IN THE */
/*  INITPARMS).*/
  ADJACENT.NODE = ((TCP.IP.DEFAULT, , , TCP))

  ADJACENT.NODE=( (node,1364,ip-addr,TCP) -
  PARSESS=(10 1) -   
  ENVIRONMENT=OS390 -
)

  ADJACENT.NODE=( (node,1364,ip-addr,TCP) -
  ENVIRONMENT=WINDOWS - 
)   

  ADJACENT.NODE=( (node,1364,ip-addr,TCP) -
  PARSESS=(10 1)  -  
  ENVIRONMENT=UNIX - 
)

  ADJACENT.NODE=( (node,1364,ip-addr,TCP,) - 
  PARSESS=(2 1) - 
  ENVIRONMENT=OS400 - 
) 

  ADJACENT.NODE=( (node,1364,ip-addr,TCP) -
   ALTERNATE.COMMINFO=(ALT.TYPE=TCP,ALT.ADDR=ip-addr) -
ENVIRONMENT=NT -   
  )

and the JCL ...

//NDM EXEC PGM=DMINIT,   
//PARM='&NDMPREF..PARMLIB(&PARMMEM)',
//*   REGION=16M,
//REGION=0M, 
//TIME=1440  
//*   TIME=1 
//INCLUDE MEMBER=TCPDATA 

TCPDATA

//SYSTCPD  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=

which contains ... (I think you already have one ...)

TCPIPJOBNAME TCPIP  
HOSTNAME  xxx
DATASETPREFIX 
DOMAINORIGIN 
NSINTERADDR ip-addr
RESOLVERTIMEOUT 1   

I hope that helps

regards Juergen

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Re: DFHSM CDS size versus multi-cluster

2013-01-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
I think if you issue the command F dfhsm,Q CDS you may find in the ARC0148I
messages that there are two pieces of information to explain if your file
needs to be reorg'd

First is the number you get is %Full.  However there is a second number
%Freespace.

What I have seen in my shop is we are running 96% full.  However we have 62%
freespace.  Which to me does not indicate a need to reorg.

According to IBM and Share presentations, the xCDS files should not be
reorg'd.  That when you reorg an xCDS HSM has to starting splitting the
files again which will slow down the process for a little bit.  Once enough
splits occur so there is room to insert records, it is fine.

So the questions are
1) Is the xCDS so big it needs a reorg?
2) Do I need to resize the xCDS dataset?

Once those are answered, you can figure out when to take an outage on HSM.

The other option is to change from VSAM to VSAM RLS structure for your xCDS
datasets.  You may also wish to review if the Journal dataset should be
changed as well.

Lizette


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> Subject: DFHSM CDS size versus multi-cluster
> 
> Hello,
> I'm running z/os V1.12 and I've got my BCDS filled with 85%. It's size is
> 6500 CYLS with no SEC space.
> VSAM characteristics are:
> SHROPTNS(3,3)   RECOVERY UNIQUE   NOERASE
> UNORDERED   TEMP-EXP NOREUSE   NONSPANNED
> 
> INDEXED   NOWRITECHK NOIMBED   NOREPLICAT
> EXTENDEDEXT-ADDR
> 
> In a short time I'll have to create a new BCDS, so, in your opinion what's
advisable to
> have (performance aspect, backup considerations?, etc)??
>  1) a bigger BCDS or
>  2) multi cluster
> 
> Note:
> - DFHSM cdss are shared among 3 lpars
> 
> Any hint is welcome?
> Many thx, Antonio Cecilio.
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Sterling-ConnectDirect

2013-01-17 Thread Ron Wells
Any one may have a sample for a Netmap setup...VTAM(I already have) but 
setting up for a TCPIP connection..

Looking for examples..

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MGCRE problem

2013-01-17 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all,

We are testing on a z/OS V1.13 system. I have a program that I wrote that uses 
the MGCRE service in order to execute internal commands. The program works the 
command is executed and the command and its output is placed into the hardcopy 
log. The problem I am having is that on the V1.11 and prior the command and its 
output displayed on the master console as well as the hardcopy log. Now the 
command and its output do not display on the master console only on the 
hardcopy log. I reviewed the consol00 member and the parameters, but I do not 
see anything in the init and tuning guide for console that might fix this 
problem. I also reviewed the mgcre macro for any additional parameters.

Am I missing something simple, or do the internal commands issued by MGCRE no 
longer display on the master console?


Any help appreciated and thanks in advance.

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Re: DFHSM CDS size versus multi-cluster

2013-01-17 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
To each his own but wouldn't an Export/Import be more efficient. There's no 
additional file to define, no jcl to change or files to rename. 

Besides the sample jcl is provided in sys1.samplib(ARCSTRST). HSMPRESS is 
located at the end of the member.  

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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:27 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFHSM CDS size versus multi-cluster

Probably needs to be re-orged. Define a "new cluster" shut down HSM(all LPARS) 
and repro. You will probably be amazed at how small the re-orged dataset will 
be.

That being said, my  DFHSM CDS's are defined as VSAM extended format dataset in 
a "do nothing" SMS management class and storage group.
Concurrent copy will greatly improve the speed of CDS backups.
Works great.

HTH,


I'm running z/os V1.12 and I've got my BCDS filled with 85%. It's size is
6500 CYLS with no SEC space.
VSAM characteristics are:
SHROPTNS(3,3)   RECOVERY UNIQUE   NOERASE
UNORDERED   TEMP-EXP NOREUSE   NONSPANNED

INDEXED   NOWRITECHK NOIMBED   NOREPLICAT
EXTENDEDEXT-ADDR

In a short time I'll have to create a new BCDS, so, in your opinion what's 
advisable to have (performance aspect, backup considerations?, etc)??
 1) a bigger BCDS or
 2) multi cluster

Note:
- DFHSM cdss are shared among 3 lpars


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Re: DFHSM CDS size versus multi-cluster

2013-01-17 Thread Staller, Allan
Probably needs to be re-orged. Define a "new cluster" shut down HSM(all LPARS) 
and repro. You will probably be amazed at how small the re-orged dataset will 
be.

That being said, my  DFHSM CDS's are defined as VSAM extended format dataset in 
a "do nothing" SMS management class and storage group.
Concurrent copy will greatly improve the speed of CDS backups.
Works great.

HTH,


I'm running z/os V1.12 and I've got my BCDS filled with 85%. It's size is
6500 CYLS with no SEC space.
VSAM characteristics are:
SHROPTNS(3,3)   RECOVERY UNIQUE   NOERASE
UNORDERED   TEMP-EXP NOREUSE   NONSPANNED

INDEXED   NOWRITECHK NOIMBED   NOREPLICAT
EXTENDEDEXT-ADDR

In a short time I'll have to create a new BCDS, so, in your opinion what's 
advisable to have (performance aspect, backup considerations?, etc)??
 1) a bigger BCDS or
 2) multi cluster

Note:
- DFHSM cdss are shared among 3 lpars


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Re: DFHSM CDS size versus multi-cluster

2013-01-17 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Is the 85% full before or after you re-organized the file?

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Subject: DFHSM CDS size versus multi-cluster

Hello,
I'm running z/os V1.12 and I've got my BCDS filled with 85%. It's size is
6500 CYLS with no SEC space.
VSAM characteristics are:
SHROPTNS(3,3)   RECOVERY UNIQUE   NOERASE
UNORDERED   TEMP-EXP NOREUSE   NONSPANNED

INDEXED   NOWRITECHK NOIMBED   NOREPLICAT
EXTENDEDEXT-ADDR

In a short time I'll have to create a new BCDS, so, in your opinion what's 
advisable to have (performance aspect, backup considerations?, etc)??
 1) a bigger BCDS or
 2) multi cluster

Note:
- DFHSM cdss are shared among 3 lpars

Any hint is welcome?
Many thx, Antonio Cecilio.

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Re: Deleting a nonexisting volser from hsm

2013-01-17 Thread David Devine
Hello Michael,
Are you still having the problem? i've been having a tinker and may have a 
workaround.

Restore & rename the control datasets from the cds backup to your own 
qualifiers and then browse with tso superc 3.15  (you may be able to browse the 
cds's directly with file-aid or equivalents; don't have them here so can only 
use superc 3.15 and cannot do so online) 

Then scan the bcds (or mcds) for the volser and there should be a dataset on 
the same line. (possibly multiple lines) 
If you are absolutely sure the tape is gone, issue bdeletes or hdeletes as 
appropriate. 
A scan of the ocds will show up all the T entrys for the tape and just issue 
fixcds T xx-vvv- deletes for each of them if there are any still there 
, you may have already sorted these.

A further scan should show you all clear.

Regards
 Dave 


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OT: silicon photonics - faster than copper

2013-01-17 Thread John McKown
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/446722/intel_prepares_use_lasers_light_shuffle_data_between_computers/

Intel is taking the first steps to implement thin fiber optics that
will use lasers and light as a faster way to move data inside
computers, replacing the older and slower electrical wiring technology
found in most computers today.


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DFHSM CDS size versus multi-cluster

2013-01-17 Thread af dc
Hello,
I'm running z/os V1.12 and I've got my BCDS filled with 85%. It's size is
6500 CYLS with no SEC space.
VSAM characteristics are:
SHROPTNS(3,3)   RECOVERY UNIQUE   NOERASE
UNORDERED   TEMP-EXP NOREUSE   NONSPANNED

INDEXED   NOWRITECHK NOIMBED   NOREPLICAT
EXTENDEDEXT-ADDR

In a short time I'll have to create a new BCDS, so, in your opinion what's
advisable to have (performance aspect, backup considerations?, etc)??
 1) a bigger BCDS or
 2) multi cluster

Note:
- DFHSM cdss are shared among 3 lpars

Any hint is welcome?
Many thx, Antonio Cecilio.

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Re: Break a dataset into new record boundaries?

2013-01-17 Thread Massimo Biancucci
There were a couple of issues about finding a multiple delimiter.
 
So the new rexx will produce empty records too (means record with the delimiter 
only) and could manage a delimiter as a file termination (last empty record) or 
file start.
 
Sorry for flooding the list with such a long answer.
 
Regards.
 
Input:
* Top of Data **
$$A...+1+2+3+4+5    
+6+$B...+1+2+3..    
..+4+5+6+7$C...+1...    
.+2+3+4+$D+2    
+3$E...+1+2+3+4$F$G.    
...+1$H...$$I...+1$L...+2+3..$$$    
 Bottom of Data 
 
Output:
* Top of Data **
$   
$A...+1+2+3+4+5+6+  
$B...+1+2+3+4+5+6+7 
$C...+1+2+3+4+  
$D+2+3  
$E...+1+2+3+4   
$F  
$G+1    
$H...   
$   
$I...+1 
$L...+2+3.. 
$   
$   
$   
 Bottom of Data 
 
Rexx:
 
/* REXX */  
PARSE ARG BLOCK_READ .  
BLOCCO = 0  
BLOCCW = 0  
LETTI = 0   
DROP LISTA. 
L = 0   
DELIM = "$" 
INP_STR = ""    
OUT_STR = ""    
    
"EXECIO 0 DISKR FILE1"  
"EXECIO 0 DISKW FILE2"  
    
"EXECIO" BLOCK_READ "DISKR FILE1(STEM INPUT."   
    
DO WHILE(INPUT.0 > 0)   
  BLOCCO = BLOCCO + 1   
  SAY "LETTO BLOCCO:" BLOCCO "DI" INPUT.0 "RECORDS" 
  IF BLOCCO = 1 &,  
 LEFT(INPUT.1,1) <> DELIM THEN DO   
    SAY "FIRST RECORD DOES NOT START WITH '"DELIM"'"    
    EXIT(99)    
  END   
  CALL ELABORA  
  "EXECIO" BLOCK_READ "DISKR FILE1(STEM INPUT." 
END 
    
IF INP_STR > "" THEN DO 
  L = L + 1 
  LISTA.L = INP_STR 
END 
    
IF L > 0 THEN DO    
  BLOCCW = BLOCCW + 1   
  "EXECIO" L "DISKW FILE2(STEM LISTA."  
  SAY "SC

Re: Mocha TN3270 on Android now available

2013-01-17 Thread R.S.
While pointing device could accepted with some reserve, I absolutely 
don't any device with "stroked" interface. Keyboard is a must, a cable 
is a must also, preferrably coaxial.

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Re: Sharing TS7700 across sms plex

2013-01-17 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
He means SC35-0427.  
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/DOWNLOAD/dgt2o370.pdf?DN=SC35-0427-10&DT=20110601095613
 

Mary Anne

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:58:52 -0600, Victor Zhang  
wrote:

>I can't locate SG35-0427, can you tell me where to find it?
>
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