Re: File Placement Utility

2015-10-09 Thread Hardee, Chuck
Thanks all for your responses.

While some of you offered some good ideas on how to handle the problem, none of 
them presented was an automated process, which is what I was hoping for.
Some of you asked questions about types of files and cross LPAR conditions and 
I will not go into those details.
Suffice it to say, I have 1500+ files of varying sizes and I need to balance 
their placement across 70 volumes.

If no one knows of a tool out there that can do this, then you have all 
fulfilled my need.
I will have to, I guess, invent the wheel.

Chuck

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Subject: File Placement Utility

I have a need to juggle the locations of 1500+ files on 70 volumes.
These packs are not SMS managed and will never be.
There will be 4 sets of these files across 4 sets of 70 DASD volumes.

Does anyone know of a utility, REXX, EXCEL, executable program, etc, that would 
let me feed in the file names and sizes, dasd characteristics, etc, and produce 
a list of what files should be allocated on what packs?

The file sizes vary file to file, but they do not expand or contract once 
allocated and won't change until the next time the files need to be adjusted, 
which won't hopefully, change for a while.

Thanks,
Chuck

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Re: Creating AWS file from dataset on tape

2015-10-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 16:51:12 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:
>
>But it struck me that what you may be asking for is the ability to
>copy an entire tape -- labels and all -- to an AWS file. That is, to
>make a portable image of a whole existing real tape. I don't know if
>there's a mainframe tool to do that, but there is a standalone
>tapecopy.exe available with the Hercules project to run on a UNIX-type
>machine that can copy in either direction between real (reel - heh)
>and AWS. I used it to copy most of my collection of tapes from the
>1970s through early 1990s using a SCSI-attached drive on a Linux PC.
>
>A mainframe (i.e. z/OS) tool would be a combination of one of the
>existing tape mapping programs with the trivial code that creates the
>AWS file control blocks. Probably someone's done it already.
>
>Ah - yes... It's in the /util directory of the Hercules source.
>Download http://downloads.hercules-390.eu/hercules-3.11.zip and
>extract tapeconv.jcl . This contains the source code and surrounding
>JCL to build and execute it.
>
Or, if it's more accessible to you, I believe CMS Pipelines has an
AWSTAPE stage.

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Re: SSH Client

2015-10-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
,
on 10/09/2015
   at 01:10 PM, Mark Pace  said:

>I can start typing a command and press tab and it will autocomplete a
>file name or command.

That's a function of the shell that you're using.
 
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Re: Creating AWS file from dataset on tape

2015-10-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 9 October 2015 at 16:04, John McKown  wrote:
>> I tried, and it didn't work.
>> It was a dynalloc error. I didn't write down the specifics. I'll take a
>> better look next week.
>> Gadi
>>
>
> I'm not sure, but you might need TSOAUTH MOUNT authority for dynamic
> allocation to work. It depends on what the code does. I think. Maybe.

There is the option to specify a DDNAME. That would probably make
sense for tape in a batch environment.

But it struck me that what you may be asking for is the ability to
copy an entire tape -- labels and all -- to an AWS file. That is, to
make a portable image of a whole existing real tape. I don't know if
there's a mainframe tool to do that, but there is a standalone
tapecopy.exe available with the Hercules project to run on a UNIX-type
machine that can copy in either direction between real (reel - heh)
and AWS. I used it to copy most of my collection of tapes from the
1970s through early 1990s using a SCSI-attached drive on a Linux PC.

A mainframe (i.e. z/OS) tool would be a combination of one of the
existing tape mapping programs with the trivial code that creates the
AWS file control blocks. Probably someone's done it already.

Ah - yes... It's in the /util directory of the Hercules source.
Download http://downloads.hercules-390.eu/hercules-3.11.zip and
extract tapeconv.jcl . This contains the source code and surrounding
JCL to build and execute it.

Tony H.

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Re: IBM FTP and the Batch Runtime Environment

2015-10-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 15:28:53 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:

>On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 11:08:44 +, Vlcek, Vitezslav Vit wrote:
>
>>I have received an info (ICN 1422) from IBM
>
>The information that you received is confidential information, and 
>CA is under a non-disclosure agreement with IBM. You have 
>presumably also signed a non-disclosure agreement so that you 
>could have access to that information. By disclosing it here, you 
>and CA are both at risk.
>
>If you want to ask questions about this kind of information, you 
>should ask IBM.
>
>As a vendor, if I knew more, I wouldn't say.
> 
Well, here's what IBM has to say:

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/tools/java/products/jrio/overview.html

IBM Java Record I/O (JRIO) is deprecated as of SDK 6.0.1. No new function 
will be
added to any release of IBM Java Record I/O (JRIO).

IBM 31-bit SDK for z/OS, Java Technology Edition, V7.1 and IBM 64-bit SDK 
for z/OS,
Java Technology Edition, V7.1 are the last releases to support the JRIO 
component.

We strongly recommend migrating to IBM JZOS Batch Toolkit, which currently 
has
equivalent functionality and will be enhanced with new functions.
...

I see no harsh confidentiality warnings on that page.  But I suppose the OP may 
be
at risk simply by disclosing that he's party to ICNs.

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Re: IBM FTP and the Batch Runtime Environment

2015-10-09 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 11:08:44 +, Vlcek, Vitezslav Vit wrote:

>I have received an info (ICN 1422) from IBM

The information that you received is confidential information, and 
CA is under a non-disclosure agreement with IBM. You have 
presumably also signed a non-disclosure agreement so that you 
could have access to that information. By disclosing it here, you 
and CA are both at risk.

If you want to ask questions about this kind of information, you 
should ask IBM.

As a vendor, if I knew more, I wouldn't say.

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Re: Creating AWS file from dataset on tape

2015-10-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 15:04:34 -0500, John McKown wrote:

>On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 2:58 PM, גדי בן אבי wrote:
>
>> I tried, and it didn't work.
>> It was a dynalloc error. I didn't write down the specifics. I'll take a
>> better look next week.
>
>​I'm not sure, but you might need TSOAUTH MOUNT authority for dynamic
>allocation to work. It depends on what the code does. I think. Maybe.​
> 
What one really needs is the ability to mount an AWS then use tape CCWs
on it, kinda like a *.iso on Linux.

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Re: Creating AWS file from dataset on tape

2015-10-09 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 2:58 PM, גדי בן אבי  wrote:

> I tried, and it didn't work.
> It was a dynalloc error. I didn't write down the specifics. I'll take a
> better look next week.
> Gadi
>

​I'm not sure, but you might need TSOAUTH MOUNT authority for dynamic
allocation to work. It depends on what the code does. I think. Maybe.​


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Re: Creating AWS file from dataset on tape

2015-10-09 Thread גדי בן אבי
I tried, and it didn't work.
It was a dynalloc error. I didn't write down the specifics. I'll take a better 
look next week.
Gadi


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Subject: Re: Creating AWS file from dataset on tape

On 8 October 2015 at 07:26, גדי בן אבי  wrote:
> I would like to create AWS files from datasets on tape.
>
> I found the AWSSL program on file 585 on the CBT.
> This program can create AWS files, but cannot read files on tape.

Why do you say that it can't read files on tape? I haven't tried it,
but I can see nothing in the doc or the program that would stop it
from doing so.

Have you tried? If so, how did it fail?

Tony H.

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Re: SSH Client

2015-10-09 Thread Mark Pace
Thank you all!

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:39 PM, John McKown 
wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Mark Pace  wrote:
>
> > When I logon to a linux system
> > I can start typing a command and press tab and it will autocomplete a
> file
> > name or command.
> > If I press up arrow it will recall previous commands.
> >
> > I can't figure out how to do this in Unix System Services using SSH.
> > Is this a daemon setup, client setup?  I've gone through z/OS OpenSSH
> > User's Guide and I don't see anything that looks like what I am looking
> > for.
> >
> >
> The history and editing commands are implemented in BASH using an
> integrated version of "GNU Readline". The tab completion for commands or
> file selection is a part of BASH itself. My suggestion is to run BASH on
> z/OS. It is available on the CBTTape (http://www.cbttape.org/cbtdowns.htm
> ),
> file 918 is the executable only. File 919 contains both the executable and
> ported source.
> You can also get the ported source from :
> https://github.com/JohnArchieMckown/bash
> or the executables, in a z/OS PAX file, via
>
> https://github.com/JohnArchieMckown/bash/blob/bash-4.2-zos/bash-executable.pax.Z
> As you may have guessed, I am the one who did this port. This is BASH 4.2
> patch level 53. This has the "shell shock" fix installed. You can also
> request an alternate port from RocketSoftware:
> http://www.rocketsoftware.com/ported-tools/bash-4254
> ​This latter port seems to be one patch level higher than mine.​
>
>
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Re: SSH Client

2015-10-09 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Mark Pace  wrote:

> When I logon to a linux system
> I can start typing a command and press tab and it will autocomplete a file
> name or command.
> If I press up arrow it will recall previous commands.
>
> I can't figure out how to do this in Unix System Services using SSH.
> Is this a daemon setup, client setup?  I've gone through z/OS OpenSSH
> User's Guide and I don't see anything that looks like what I am looking
> for.
>
>
The history and editing commands are implemented in BASH using an
integrated version of "GNU Readline". The tab completion for commands or
file selection is a part of BASH itself. My suggestion is to run BASH on
z/OS. It is available on the CBTTape (http://www.cbttape.org/cbtdowns.htm),
file 918 is the executable only. File 919 contains both the executable and
ported source.
You can also get the ported source from :
https://github.com/JohnArchieMckown/bash
or the executables, in a z/OS PAX file, via
https://github.com/JohnArchieMckown/bash/blob/bash-4.2-zos/bash-executable.pax.Z
As you may have guessed, I am the one who did this port. This is BASH 4.2
patch level 53. This has the "shell shock" fix installed. You can also
request an alternate port from RocketSoftware:
http://www.rocketsoftware.com/ported-tools/bash-4254
​This latter port seems to be one patch level higher than mine.​


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Re: SSH Client

2015-10-09 Thread Michael Knigge

Mark,

this is a feature of the Shell. Linux uses (mostly) the BASH as default 
Shell. The z/OS USS uses an other shell, but as far as I know there is a 
port: See http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/unix/bpxa1ty1.html




Bye,
Michael


Am 09.10.2015 um 19:10 schrieb Mark Pace:

When I logon to a linux system
I can start typing a command and press tab and it will autocomplete a file
name or command.
If I press up arrow it will recall previous commands.

I can't figure out how to do this in Unix System Services using SSH.
Is this a daemon setup, client setup?  I've gone through z/OS OpenSSH
User's Guide and I don't see anything that looks like what I am looking for.



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Re: SSH Client

2015-10-09 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi Folks,

 Sounds like a bash shell to me...

BobL

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I think it's the function of the shell. My OMVS segment specifies /bin/tcsh 
which I find has more functionally that /bin/sh (which is the default shell).

Mark Jacobs

> Mark Pace  October 9, 2015 at 1:10 PM 
> When I logon to a linux system I can start typing a command and press 
> tab and it will autocomplete a file name or command.
> If I press up arrow it will recall previous commands.
>
> I can't figure out how to do this in Unix System Services using SSH.
> Is this a daemon setup, client setup? I've gone through z/OS OpenSSH 
> User's Guide and I don't see anything that looks like what I am 
> looking for.
>
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Re: SSH Client

2015-10-09 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
I think it's the function of the shell. My OMVS segment specifies 
/bin/tcsh which I find has more functionally that /bin/sh (which is the 
default shell).


Mark Jacobs


Mark Pace 
October 9, 2015 at 1:10 PM
When I logon to a linux system
I can start typing a command and press tab and it will autocomplete a file
name or command.
If I press up arrow it will recall previous commands.

I can't figure out how to do this in Unix System Services using SSH.
Is this a daemon setup, client setup? I've gone through z/OS OpenSSH
User's Guide and I don't see anything that looks like what I am 
looking for.


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SSH Client

2015-10-09 Thread Mark Pace
When I logon to a linux system
I can start typing a command and press tab and it will autocomplete a file
name or command.
If I press up arrow it will recall previous commands.

I can't figure out how to do this in Unix System Services using SSH.
Is this a daemon setup, client setup?  I've gone through z/OS OpenSSH
User's Guide and I don't see anything that looks like what I am looking for.

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Re: Creating AWS file from dataset on tape

2015-10-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 8 October 2015 at 07:26, גדי בן אבי  wrote:
> I would like to create AWS files from datasets on tape.
>
> I found the AWSSL program on file 585 on the CBT.
> This program can create AWS files, but cannot read files on tape.

Why do you say that it can't read files on tape? I haven't tried it,
but I can see nothing in the doc or the program that would stop it
from doing so.

Have you tried? If so, how did it fail?

Tony H.

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AW: Re: Copy a directory structure with copying files.

2015-10-09 Thread Peter Hunkeler
I'm sorry for the bad formatting. Trying again



I'm adding some pax options as follows:


a) I want the target to inherit all source attributes:


==> pax -rwE -pe -XCM source target


b) I want the target to keep source attributes, except for ACLs (if an) which 
should be set baset on the target environment's ACLs:


==> pax -rwE -ppx -XCM source target




I like to see what's been copied, therefore the -E option




And don't forget that you may need appropriate rights, depending on what you 
intend to do. E.g. setting extended attributes (APF, program controlles, 
sharelib) require access to BPX.FILEATTR profiles.




 copytree can be much lower than pax. Both are much slower that an IDCAMS 
REPRO, which is my preferred option *if* the part being copied is contained in 
a separate file system.



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Re: IBM FTP and the Batch Runtime Environment

2015-10-09 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Charles Mills  wrote:

> The title of the feature being abandoned alarmed me also, but I think there
> is no effect on FTP.
>
> Charles
>

​I got curious. It looks like a pre-JZOS execution environment for running
Java, plus other LE languages, in a batch step. It doesn't seem to have
anything to do with non-Java functions, such as FTP.​


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AW: Re: CICS suffering from Page-In delay: Page Stealing versus Paging Out

2015-10-09 Thread Peter Hunkeler
> There is an option in the WLM to make a service class memory critical.


Yes, I know and I have verified that we do *not* used it. Why? Good question 
that I will have to raise. I'm very astonished the CICSs are not set storage 
critical.  But I'm new to this installation and don't know historical 
information available, yet.


Apart from this, I have to live with the current setup and need to find answers 
to my previous questions.


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Re: IBM FTP and the Batch Runtime Environment

2015-10-09 Thread Charles Mills
The title of the feature being abandoned alarmed me also, but I think there
is no effect on FTP.

Charles

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Hi Guys,

I have received an info (ICN 1422) from IBM they will abandon the Batch
Runtime Environment.
Do you know whether this has an impact on the IBM FTP server?
Mainly the job submission and getting job output from spool via FTP

ICN 1422:
New z/OS is planned to be the last release where the Batch Runtime
Environment component of z/OS will be shipped and supported.

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Re: CICS suffering from Page-In delay: Page Stealing versus Paging Out

2015-10-09 Thread Staller, Allan
Check the storage critical value in WLM. This is the equivalent of the old 
"PWSS=" parameter in SRM.


HTH,

Al Staller | Z Systems Programmer | KBM Group | (Tel) 972 664-3565 | 
allan.stal...@kbmg.com


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Subject: CICS suffering from Page-In delay: Page Stealing versus Paging Out

A word in advance: I have subscribed to the MXG-L list but have not yet granted 
access, so I'm asking here first.



I'm busy working on a problem some of CICS region are suffering from 
periodically. There are times when some CICS regions are paging-in some MB of 
storage and are thus suffering from the paging delay. 


Since this is about page-in, the storage that is paged-out has been in use 
before. It is not too clear yet what this storage is and what is causing it to 
be referenced again in that massive way. That's being investigated and is not 
directly my question here, although any hint is welcome as well.


I'm trying to understand why that amount of storage has been paged-out from 
those CICS regions, and when this has happened. looking at the SMF30 subtype 2 
for the CICS regions a indeed can see intervals with large number of pages 
being paged-out (SMF30PGO). I do not see any non-zero values indicating pages 
had been stolen (SMF30PST). 



It has been my understanding (which may be wrong, of course) that page 
steaqling happens when the Available Frame Queue goes below the min threshold. 
SRM/RSM will them steal pages and page them out. I would expect those numbers 
to appear in SMF30PST. And if this number is 0 for an address space, this one 
was not a donor in a low AFQ situation, right?




We do see the AFQ going low sometimes, and it was my assumption that those 
CICSs were victims by having pages stolen. This does not seem to be the case. 
What then causes the pages to be paged-out (SMF30PGO)? Is CICS doing PGOUT by 
itself?






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Re: IBM FTP and the Batch Runtime Environment

2015-10-09 Thread Staller, Allan
This is old news and has been a statement of direction for about 4 years.



Statement of direction

IBM 31-bit SDK for z/OS, Java Technology Edition V7.0 and IBM 64-bit SDK for z/

OS, Java Technology Edition V7.0 are planned to be the last releases to support 
the

JRIO component. JRIO was deprecated in the IBM SDK for z/OS, Java Technology

Edition, V6.0.1 products. Customers and ISVs are encouraged to use the record 
I/O

facilities in the JZOS component instead of the JRIO facilities. For more 
information

about JZOS, see JZOS Java Launcher and Toolkit Overview

http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/tools/java/products/jzos/overview.html

For information about migration from JRIO to JZOS and sample code, see

IBM Java Record I/O (JRIO) to IBM JZOS Batch Toolkit Migration and Sample Code

http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/tools/java/products/jzos/

sdk601_jrio2jzos_mig.html

While the deprecation will only be marked in the z/OS Java SE SDK 6.0.1 and z/OS

SDK SE 7 releases, customers are encouraged to use JZOS (instead of JRIO) in the

other existing z/OS Java SE products. For a list of products, see

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/tools/java/products/allproducts.html



HTH,





I have received an info (ICN 1422) from IBM they will abandon the Batch Runtime 
Environment.

Do you know whether this has an impact on the IBM FTP server?

Mainly the job submission and getting job output from spool via FTP



ICN 1422:

New z/OS is planned to be the last release where the Batch Runtime Environment 
component of z/OS will be shipped and supported.



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Re: CICS suffering from Page-In delay: Page Stealing versus Paging Out

2015-10-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
There is an option in the WLM to make a service class memory critical.
It was designed especially for this issue with CICS.
If CICS is not requesting the page out, this will protect all the regions in 
the service class.

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Subject: CICS suffering from Page-In delay: Page Stealing versus Paging Out

A word in advance: I have subscribed to the MXG-L list but have not yet granted 
access, so I'm asking here first.



I'm busy working on a problem some of CICS region are suffering from 
periodically. There are times when some CICS regions are paging-in some MB of 
storage and are thus suffering from the paging delay. 


Since this is about page-in, the storage that is paged-out has been in use 
before. It is not too clear yet what this storage is and what is causing it to 
be referenced again in that massive way. That's being investigated and is not 
directly my question here, although any hint is welcome as well.


I'm trying to understand why that amount of storage has been paged-out from 
those CICS regions, and when this has happened. looking at the SMF30 subtype 2 
for the CICS regions a indeed can see intervals with large number of pages 
being paged-out (SMF30PGO). I do not see any non-zero values indicating pages 
had been stolen (SMF30PST). 



It has been my understanding (which may be wrong, of course) that page 
steaqling happens when the Available Frame Queue goes below the min threshold. 
SRM/RSM will them steal pages and page them out. I would expect those numbers 
to appear in SMF30PST. And if this number is 0 for an address space, this one 
was not a donor in a low AFQ situation, right?




We do see the AFQ going low sometimes, and it was my assumption that those 
CICSs were victims by having pages stolen. This does not seem to be the case. 
What then causes the pages to be paged-out (SMF30PGO)? Is CICS doing PGOUT by 
itself?






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AW: Re: Copy a directory structure with copying files.

2015-10-09 Thread Peter Hunkeler
I'm adding some pax options as follows:
a) I want the target to inherit all source attributes:==> pax -rwE -pe -XCM 
source target
b) I want the target to keep source attributes, except for ACLs (if an) which 
should be set baset on the target environment's ACLs:==> pax -rwE -ppx -XCM 
source target
I like to see what's been copied, therefore the -E option
And don't forget that you may need appropriate rights, depending on what you 
intend to do. E.g. setting extended attributes (APF, program controlles, 
sharelib) require access to BPX.FILEATTR profiles.
 copytree can be much lower than pax. Both are much slower that an IDCAMS 
REPRO, which is my preferred option *if* the part being copied is contained in 
a separate file system.

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Re: Subscribing to IBM-MAIN

2015-10-09 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John Eells wrote:

>> SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN  
>> What's with the angle brackets? Required? Prohibited? Nothing seems to work.
>This might help:
>https://www.lsoft.com/manuals/16.0/htmlhelp/list%20subscribers/LSCommands.html

Thanks. I forgot to add above URL. Much appreciated.

I found also on those pages that you should enter above commands in the BODY of 
your e-mail and leave the SUBJECT blank. The receiver should be 
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Sample e-mail (tested):

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Groete / Greetings
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CICS suffering from Page-In delay: Page Stealing versus Paging Out

2015-10-09 Thread Peter Hunkeler
A word in advance: I have subscribed to the MXG-L list but have not yet granted 
access, so I'm asking here first.



I'm busy working on a problem some of CICS region are suffering from 
periodically. There are times when some CICS regions are paging-in some MB of 
storage and are thus suffering from the paging delay.


Since this is about page-in, the storage that is paged-out has been in use 
before. It is not too clear yet what this storage is and what is causing it to 
be referenced again in that massive way. That's being investigated and is not 
directly my question here, although any hint is welcome as well.


I'm trying to understand why that amount of storage has been paged-out from 
those CICS regions, and when this has happened. looking at the SMF30 subtype 2 
for the CICS regions a indeed can see intervals with large number of pages 
being paged-out (SMF30PGO). I do not see any non-zero values indicating pages 
had been stolen (SMF30PST).



It has been my understanding (which may be wrong, of course) that page 
steaqling happens when the Available Frame Queue goes below the min threshold. 
SRM/RSM will them steal pages and page them out. I would expect those numbers 
to appear in SMF30PST. And if this number is 0 for an address space, this one 
was not a donor in a low AFQ situation, right?




We do see the AFQ going low sometimes, and it was my assumption that those 
CICSs were victims by having pages stolen. This does not seem to be the case. 
What then causes the pages to be paged-out (SMF30PGO)? Is CICS doing PGOUT by 
itself?






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IBM FTP and the Batch Runtime Environment

2015-10-09 Thread Vlcek, Vitezslav Vit
Hi Guys,

I have received an info (ICN 1422) from IBM they will abandon the Batch Runtime 
Environment.
Do you know whether this has an impact on the IBM FTP server?
Mainly the job submission and getting job output from spool via FTP

ICN 1422:
New z/OS is planned to be the last release where the Batch Runtime Environment 
component of z/OS will be shipped and supported.

Thx for your opinion.


Regards
Vitek

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Re: Subscribing to IBM-MAIN

2015-10-09 Thread John Eells

J O Skip Robinson wrote:

Two of my colleagues are trying to join IBM-MAIN. Neither one is successful. 
Both have sent notes to LISTSERV trying to following the INFO directive:

SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN  

What's with the angle brackets? Required? Prohibited? Nothing seems to work.


This might help:

https://www.lsoft.com/manuals/16.0/htmlhelp/list%20subscribers/LSCommands.html


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Re: Creating AWS file from dataset on tape

2015-10-09 Thread Jantje.
On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 14:26:20 +0300, גדי בן אבי  wrote:

>I found the AWSSL program on file 585 on the CBT.
>This program can create AWS files, but cannot read files on tape.

IEBGENER it to disk first...

Jantje.

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Re: File Placement Utility

2015-10-09 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Hardee, Chuck H. wrote:

>I have a need to juggle the locations of 1500+ files on 70 volumes.
>These packs are not SMS managed and will never be.
>There will be 4 sets of these files across 4 sets of 70 DASD volumes.

You've got good replies, but I have more questions:

Are they 'files' or datasets? If datasets, what types are they? VSAM, PS, PDS, 
PSDE, etc.?

Are they cataloged? If so, how are you going to handle duplicates, since you 
said '4 sets of these files'?

Are those volsers shared on other LPARS? If so, are they also cataloged there 
or not?

Do you want to place largest dataset on some volsers and smallest on other 
volsers?
Or do you want to split up your 70 volsers into 4 groups and place your 4 sets 
datasets in each of those groups?


>Does anyone know of a utility, REXX, EXCEL, executable program, etc, that 
>would let me feed in the file names and sizes, dasd characteristics, etc, and 
>produce a list of what files should be allocated on what packs?

Write your own utility using [print] output from ISMF, ISPF =3.4, DCOLLECT, 
DFDSS with TYPRUN=NORUN, etc.

You can perhaps create a CSV file to edit on your workstation. Easy to sort, 
group, re-sort, split-up your contents based on dsn name, size, volsers, DSORG, 
etc.


>The file sizes vary file to file, but they do not expand or contract once 
>allocated and won't change until the next time the files need to be adjusted, 
>which won't hopefully, change for a while.

You can compact [sort of] them by putting them in groups in one dataset using 
DFDSS. You will save some tracks depending on contents of these individual 
datasets.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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