Re: CPU ID display incorrect?

2018-10-14 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Tony Thigpen wrote:

>Why would the D M=CPU display a wrong number.

What number? What is wrong?

Perhaps something is wrong because you read/posted it on a Sunday? ;-)


>Running z/os 1.13 on a z12-BC.
>17.13.21 HKYP   d m=cpu
>17.13.21 HKYP   IEE174I 17.13.21 DISPLAY M 204
>PROCESSOR STATUS
>ID  CPU  SERIAL
>00  + 0758C72828

>CPC ND = 002828.H06.IBM.84.000A58C7
>CPC SI = 2828.A01.IBM.84.000A58C7
>  Model: H06
>CPC ID = 00
>CPC NAME = YUKON
>LP NAME = HKYPRODLP ID =  7
>CSS ID  = 0
>MIF ID  = 7

Looking Ok to me. Seems to me you have at least one CPU active.


>The physical CPU id stamped into the machine is "A58C7".

>The 'Edit Frame' in the SE says:
>Machine Type: 2828
>Machine Model: H06
>Serial Number: 0008400A58C7

It match with the D M=CPU output, unless I missed  something.

Did you upgraded concurrently your processor(s) to a new model?

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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CAVMEN Revival Meeting October 18 - FINAL NOTICE

2018-10-14 Thread Jack H. Slavick
The fourth quarter revival meeting of the Chicago Area VM (and Linux)
Enthusiasts will be held on Thursday, October 18. Please be encouraged to
attend and invite your friends.

Meeting Location: 
This quarter's meeting will once again be held at  Alight (formerly AON
Hewitt) West
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previously) . 
We will be entering on the south side of the complex (opposite of where we
have entered previously) and there should be an 'Alight' sign to guide you.
Security at that entrance should be able to guide you to our meeting room.
Parking should otherwise remain the same.
Please be attentive to where you park and where you attempt to enter the
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www.cavmen.org . Check the links out!!!
There is a lot of information on the this site for your benefit!!!   

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Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes??

2018-10-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 19:37:14 -0400, Don Poitras  wrote:

>In article <0318129882885622.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu> you wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 12:33:58 -0400, Mark Regan wrote:
>> >https://it.toolbox.com/blogs/trevoreddolls/what-mainframers-hate-mainframes-101418
>>  ...
>> I believe there are sites running multiple Linux guests and using CMS only
>> to support those guests.  I asked on IBMVM whether such a site could discard
>> CMS and the idiosyncratic skill set it requires and rely solely on Linux 
>> itself
>> for support.  Alan Altmark and others replied, emphatically, "No."
>
>If you're going to use z/VM to host z/Linux, then you'd need CMS as that's
>required for z/VM. 
> 
That's the sort of dependency that can be removed via RFE.  Tape drives
used to be required for OS/360 and VM/370.

> ... But you don't have to use z/VM, you could instead
>use KVM and avoid CMS. I don't think KVM is anywhere near as good as
>z/VM, but at least you avoid the learning curve.

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Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes??

2018-10-14 Thread Don Poitras
In article <0318129882885622.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu> you wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 12:33:58 -0400, Mark Regan wrote:
> >https://it.toolbox.com/blogs/trevoreddolls/what-mainframers-hate-mainframes-101418
> >  ...
> You can run Linux on it - either in a partition or running the whole 
> thing. ...
> What fraction of participants of this forum see moving to Linux for z as
> comfortably Remaining on the Mainframe? 
> ... pervasive encryption making mainframes the most secure platform ...
> Does Linux employ pervasive encryption?
> ... free with z/OS is z/OSMF, which provides a browser-based way (with 
> wizards
> and online help) to manage z/OS from a modern-looking GUI. ...
> What sites have switched to z/OSMF, largely replacing 3270s?  Does z/OSMF
> support installation, configuration, and servicing?  Could such sites just 
> sell
> all their 3270s and emulators on eBay?
> I believe there are sites running multiple Linux guests and using CMS only
> to support those guests.  I asked on IBMVM whether such a site could discard
> CMS and the idiosyncratic skill set it requires and rely solely on Linux 
> itself
> for support.  Alan Altmark and others replied, emphatically, "No."
> -- gil

If you're going to use z/VM to host z/Linux, then you'd need CMS as that's
required for z/VM. But you don't have to use z/VM, you could instead
use KVM and avoid CMS. I don't think KVM is anywhere near as good as
z/VM, but at least you avoid the learning curve.

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Re: CPU ID display incorrect?

2018-10-14 Thread Doug
Looks correct.
Doug

.

On Oct 14, 2018, at 18:59, Charles Mills  wrote:

What do you see as wrong?

07 is the LPAR
58C7 is the last four of the physical serial
2828 is the machine type

Or am I missing some detail of your question? (Or missing completely ?)

Charles


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Subject: CPU ID display incorrect?

Why would the D M=CPU display a wrong number.

Running z/os 1.13 on a z12-BC.

17.13.21 HKYP   d m=cpu
17.13.21 HKYP   IEE174I 17.13.21 DISPLAY M 204
PROCESSOR STATUS
ID  CPU  SERIAL
00  + 0758C72828

CPC ND = 002828.H06.IBM.84.000A58C7
CPC SI = 2828.A01.IBM.84.000A58C7
 Model: H06
CPC ID = 00
CPC NAME = YUKON
LP NAME = HKYPRODLP ID =  7
CSS ID  = 0
MIF ID  = 7

The physical CPU id stamped into the machine is "A58C7".

The 'Edit Frame' in the SE says:
Machine Type: 2828
Machine Model: H06
Serial Number: 0008400A58C7

Additionally, VTAM-Print says:
(GSMINITL) THIS CPU: 758C7

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Re: CPU ID display incorrect?

2018-10-14 Thread Charles Mills
What do you see as wrong?

07 is the LPAR
58C7 is the last four of the physical serial
2828 is the machine type

Or am I missing some detail of your question? (Or missing completely ?)

Charles


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Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 2:21 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: CPU ID display incorrect?

Why would the D M=CPU display a wrong number.

Running z/os 1.13 on a z12-BC.

17.13.21 HKYP   d m=cpu
17.13.21 HKYP   IEE174I 17.13.21 DISPLAY M 204
PROCESSOR STATUS
ID  CPU  SERIAL
00  + 0758C72828

CPC ND = 002828.H06.IBM.84.000A58C7
CPC SI = 2828.A01.IBM.84.000A58C7
  Model: H06
CPC ID = 00
CPC NAME = YUKON
LP NAME = HKYPRODLP ID =  7
CSS ID  = 0
MIF ID  = 7

The physical CPU id stamped into the machine is "A58C7".

The 'Edit Frame' in the SE says:
Machine Type: 2828  
Machine Model: H06  
Serial Number: 0008400A58C7

Additionally, VTAM-Print says:
(GSMINITL) THIS CPU: 758C7

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Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes??

2018-10-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 12:33:58 -0400, Mark Regan wrote:

>https://it.toolbox.com/blogs/trevoreddolls/what-mainframers-hate-mainframes-101418
>  ...
You can run Linux on it - either in a partition or running the whole thing. 
...

What fraction of participants of this forum see moving to Linux for z as
comfortably Remaining on the Mainframe? 

... pervasive encryption making mainframes the most secure platform ...

Does Linux employ pervasive encryption?

... free with z/OS is z/OSMF, which provides a browser-based way (with 
wizards
and online help) to manage z/OS from a modern-looking GUI. ...

What sites have switched to z/OSMF, largely replacing 3270s?  Does z/OSMF
support installation, configuration, and servicing?  Could such sites just sell
all their 3270s and emulators on eBay?

I believe there are sites running multiple Linux guests and using CMS only
to support those guests.  I asked on IBMVM whether such a site could discard
CMS and the idiosyncratic skill set it requires and rely solely on Linux itself
for support.  Alan Altmark and others replied, emphatically, "No."

-- gil

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CPU ID display incorrect?

2018-10-14 Thread Tony Thigpen

Why would the D M=CPU display a wrong number.

Running z/os 1.13 on a z12-BC.

17.13.21 HKYP   d m=cpu
17.13.21 HKYP   IEE174I 17.13.21 DISPLAY M 204
PROCESSOR STATUS
ID  CPU  SERIAL
00  + 0758C72828

CPC ND = 002828.H06.IBM.84.000A58C7
CPC SI = 2828.A01.IBM.84.000A58C7
 Model: H06
CPC ID = 00
CPC NAME = YUKON
LP NAME = HKYPRODLP ID =  7
CSS ID  = 0
MIF ID  = 7

The physical CPU id stamped into the machine is "A58C7".

The 'Edit Frame' in the SE says:
Machine Type: 2828  
Machine Model: H06  
Serial Number: 0008400A58C7

Additionally, VTAM-Print says:
(GSMINITL) THIS CPU: 758C7

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Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes??

2018-10-14 Thread Mark Regan
https://it.toolbox.com/blogs/trevoreddolls/what-mainframers-hate-mainframes-101418
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