Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Charles Mills 
Mmmm. Don't know the Web interface at all. I was testing with Office 365 on
a Windows 10 PC. Should be an equivalent option. I am going to guess this
was not your purchase. Do you have an administrator?

Charles


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> Then turn them off.

How?

>  File/Options/Proofing/AutoFormat

There is no such menu option in the web interface.

> How do we make stupid people write smarter documents? 

We can't make them, but we (I'm talking to you, m$) can stop encouraging
them to write stupid documents.


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> That's why I hate them.

Then turn them off. File/Options/Proofing/AutoFormat As You Type: Uncheck
"Straight Quotes with 'Smart Quotes'"

> BTW, how do I turn off half-smart quotes on the computer of someone who's
sending me a document?

How do we make stupid people write smarter documents? Wish I knew.

Charles


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> That is precisely what "smart quotes" is all about.

That's why I hate them.

BTW, how do I turn off half-smart quotes on the computer of someone who's
sending me a document?


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> I like "smart" quotes when I ask for them; I don't like them when I key in
something else and don't get what I keyed in.

That is precisely what "smart quotes" is all about. Smart Quotes *means*
that you key in " and get the little curly quotes. If you don't like that,
disable smart quotes and when you want curly quotes, insert them from the
Insert/Symbol pull-down.

FWIW I personally use both: curly quotes when typing for humans and regular
"ASCII" quotes when writing documentation and training and tech support
examples, which I do a lot. I have toggled between disabling smart quotes
and inserting them from the pull-down, versus enabling smart quotes and
using the pull-down when I want "ASCII" quotes. I have settled on the latter
approach. When I am "just typing" I get curly quotes and when I am thinking
about a documentation example then I insert "ASCII" quotes. YMMV.

Charles


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> But some people like them.

I like "smart" quotes when I ask for them; I don't like them when I key in
something else and don't get what I keyed in.

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Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Seymour J Metz 
> Then turn them off.

How?

>  File/Options/Proofing/AutoFormat

There is no such menu option in the web interface.

> How do we make stupid people write smarter documents? 

We can't make them, but we (I'm talking to you, m$) can stop encouraging them 
to write stupid documents.


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Charles Mills 
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> That's why I hate them.

Then turn them off. File/Options/Proofing/AutoFormat As You Type: Uncheck
"Straight Quotes with 'Smart Quotes'"

> BTW, how do I turn off half-smart quotes on the computer of someone who's
sending me a document?

How do we make stupid people write smarter documents? Wish I knew.

Charles


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> That is precisely what "smart quotes" is all about.

That's why I hate them.

BTW, how do I turn off half-smart quotes on the computer of someone who's
sending me a document?


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> I like "smart" quotes when I ask for them; I don't like them when I key in
something else and don't get what I keyed in.

That is precisely what "smart quotes" is all about. Smart Quotes *means*
that you key in " and get the little curly quotes. If you don't like that,
disable smart quotes and when you want curly quotes, insert them from the
Insert/Symbol pull-down.

FWIW I personally use both: curly quotes when typing for humans and regular
"ASCII" quotes when writing documentation and training and tech support
examples, which I do a lot. I have toggled between disabling smart quotes
and inserting them from the pull-down, versus enabling smart quotes and
using the pull-down when I want "ASCII" quotes. I have settled on the latter
approach. When I am "just typing" I get curly quotes and when I am thinking
about a documentation example then I insert "ASCII" quotes. YMMV.

Charles


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> But some people like them.

I like "smart" quotes when I ask for them; I don't like them when I key in
something else and don't get what I keyed in.

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Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin 
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 22:17:54 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>> That is precisely what "smart quotes" is all about.
>
>That's why I hate them.
>
>BTW, how do I turn off half-smart quotes on the computer of someone who's 
>sending me a document?
>
After the fact, copy and paste the code you need, then pipe it through:
sed 's/“/"/g; s/”/"/g'
(or similar Edit macro.)

>
>From: Charles Mills
>Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 4:47 PM
>
>FWIW I personally use both: curly quotes when typing for humans and regular
>"ASCII" quotes when writing documentation and training and tech support
>examples, which I do a lot. I have toggled between disabling smart quotes
>and inserting them from the pull-down, versus enabling smart quotes and
>using the pull-down when I want "ASCII" quotes. I have settled on the latter
>approach. When I am "just typing" I get curly quotes and when I am thinking
>about a documentation example then I insert "ASCII" quotes. YMMV.
>
There's considerable value in distinguishing opening from closing brackets.
POSIX does well in providing for command substitution "$( list )" as an
alternative to "` list `".  It nests without a cascade of '\' and it cleanly
protects internal punctuation without invalidating prior art.  I'd support
adding distinct open and close quotes to any programming language
while retaining compatibility with existing art.

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Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Charles Mills 
> That's why I hate them.

Then turn them off. File/Options/Proofing/AutoFormat As You Type: Uncheck
"Straight Quotes with 'Smart Quotes'"

> BTW, how do I turn off half-smart quotes on the computer of someone who's
sending me a document?

How do we make stupid people write smarter documents? Wish I knew.

Charles


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> That is precisely what "smart quotes" is all about.

That's why I hate them.

BTW, how do I turn off half-smart quotes on the computer of someone who's
sending me a document?


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Subject: Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

> I like "smart" quotes when I ask for them; I don't like them when I key in
something else and don't get what I keyed in.

That is precisely what "smart quotes" is all about. Smart Quotes *means*
that you key in " and get the little curly quotes. If you don't like that,
disable smart quotes and when you want curly quotes, insert them from the
Insert/Symbol pull-down.

FWIW I personally use both: curly quotes when typing for humans and regular
"ASCII" quotes when writing documentation and training and tech support
examples, which I do a lot. I have toggled between disabling smart quotes
and inserting them from the pull-down, versus enabling smart quotes and
using the pull-down when I want "ASCII" quotes. I have settled on the latter
approach. When I am "just typing" I get curly quotes and when I am thinking
about a documentation example then I insert "ASCII" quotes. YMMV.

Charles


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> But some people like them.

I like "smart" quotes when I ask for them; I don't like them when I key in
something else and don't get what I keyed in.

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Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Seymour J Metz 
> That is precisely what "smart quotes" is all about.

That's why I hate them.

BTW, how do I turn off half-smart quotes on the computer of someone who's 
sending me a document?


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Subject: Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

> I like "smart" quotes when I ask for them; I don't like them when I key in
something else and don't get what I keyed in.

That is precisely what "smart quotes" is all about. Smart Quotes *means*
that you key in " and get the little curly quotes. If you don't like that,
disable smart quotes and when you want curly quotes, insert them from the
Insert/Symbol pull-down.

FWIW I personally use both: curly quotes when typing for humans and regular
"ASCII" quotes when writing documentation and training and tech support
examples, which I do a lot. I have toggled between disabling smart quotes
and inserting them from the pull-down, versus enabling smart quotes and
using the pull-down when I want "ASCII" quotes. I have settled on the latter
approach. When I am "just typing" I get curly quotes and when I am thinking
about a documentation example then I insert "ASCII" quotes. YMMV.

Charles


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> But some people like them.

I like "smart" quotes when I ask for them; I don't like them when I key in
something else and don't get what I keyed in.

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Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Charles Mills 
> I like "smart" quotes when I ask for them; I don't like them when I key in
something else and don't get what I keyed in.

That is precisely what "smart quotes" is all about. Smart Quotes *means*
that you key in " and get the little curly quotes. If you don't like that,
disable smart quotes and when you want curly quotes, insert them from the
Insert/Symbol pull-down.

FWIW I personally use both: curly quotes when typing for humans and regular
"ASCII" quotes when writing documentation and training and tech support
examples, which I do a lot. I have toggled between disabling smart quotes
and inserting them from the pull-down, versus enabling smart quotes and
using the pull-down when I want "ASCII" quotes. I have settled on the latter
approach. When I am "just typing" I get curly quotes and when I am thinking
about a documentation example then I insert "ASCII" quotes. YMMV.

Charles


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> But some people like them.

I like "smart" quotes when I ask for them; I don't like them when I key in
something else and don't get what I keyed in.

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Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Charles Mills 
> But some people like them.

Well, alternatively then, you can leave them enabled.

Charles


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On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 12:05:07 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:

>You can readily disable smart quotes.
>
But some people like them.

Microsoft will outwit you.  I once sent a co-worker a JCL excerpt with:
"...BLKSIZE=6144,..."
He wrote back, "What's this 'BLKSIZEa44'?"

There was *no* quoted-printable header.  But Exchange was configured
to use Word as a viewer.

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Re: ZFS RECORG=FS

2018-12-11 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv 
A zFS is a specially formatted VSAM LDS. How are you creating the ZFS?

Hervey Martinez wrote on 12/11/18 3:59 PM:

Working on HFS to ZFS conversion and the DFSMS manual for zos 2.3 mentions the 
RECORG=FS to be used for ZFS files.

In creating a test case in ISMF, it does not recognize this parm and it give an 
error. i did add this to the ACS routines and we are able to allocate a ZFS and 
convert an HFS to ZFS.

Any idea how to correct this RECORG=FS?

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Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Seymour J Metz 
> You can readily disable smart quotes.

In which m$ applications? How?

I'm using the web interface to office365, and haven't checked whether it's 
messing with quotes.

"test"


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You can readily disable smart quotes.

Charles

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I'm using office365 and lookout from a web browser, and I don't know what
they're doing. Given that it's m$, they're probably not doing what they
should be. Still, I wouldn't expect even m to capriciously insert NBSP,
although their it smarts quotes are almost as bad.

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ZFS RECORG=FS

2018-12-11 Thread Hervey Martinez 
Working on HFS to ZFS conversion and the DFSMS manual for zos 2.3 mentions the 
RECORG=FS to be used for ZFS files.

In creating a test case in ISMF, it does not recognize this parm and it give an 
error. i did add this to the ACS routines and we are able to allocate a ZFS and 
convert an HFS to ZFS.

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Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Seymour J Metz 
> But some people like them.

I like "smart" quotes when I ask for them; I don't like them when I key in 
something else and don't get what I keyed in.

>Microsoft will outwit you.  I once sent a co-worker a JCL excerpt with:
>"...BLKSIZE=6144,..."
>He wrote back, "What's this 'BLKSIZEa44'?"

If there's one thing worse than the QP doll it's interpreting the text as QP 
when the header says otherwise.


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On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 12:05:07 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:

>You can readily disable smart quotes.
>
But some people like them.

Microsoft will outwit you.  I once sent a co-worker a JCL excerpt with:
"...BLKSIZE=6144,..."
He wrote back, "What's this 'BLKSIZEa44'?"

There was *no* quoted-printable header.  But Exchange was configured
to use Word as a viewer.

-- gil

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Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin 
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 12:05:07 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:

>You can readily disable smart quotes.
>
But some people like them.

Microsoft will outwit you.  I once sent a co-worker a JCL excerpt with:
"...BLKSIZE=6144,..."
He wrote back, "What's this 'BLKSIZEa44'?"

There was *no* quoted-printable header.  But Exchange was configured
to use Word as a viewer.

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Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Charles Mills 
You can readily disable smart quotes.

Charles

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I'm using office365 and lookout from a web browser, and I don't know what
they're doing. Given that it's m$, they're probably not doing what they
should be. Still, I wouldn't expect even m to capriciously insert NBSP,
although their it smarts quotes are almost as bad.

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Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Seymour J Metz 
I'm using office365 and lookout from a web browser, and I don't know what 
they're doing. Given that it's m$, they're probably not doing what they should 
be. Still, I wouldn't expect even m to capriciously insert NBSP, although their 
it smarts quotes are almost as bad.


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On 2018-12-10, at 15:44:31, Charles Mills wrote:
> It has nothing to do with MS-Word but yes, MS-Word also follows this 
> convention.  No, the lines are nowhere near of equal length.  Fold would 
> probably work. I have z/OS of course.  But as I said I now have the problem 
> solved. Several good solutions presented here.  It's a totally reasonable 
> "non-mainframey" text file. It has no carriage returns except at logical 
> points, not at an arbitrary line width point.  Most e-mails you get follow 
> this convention (other than old listserves that break up lines like this one).
>
Does it?  I hadn't noticed.

And automatic text flowing/paragraphing can be infuriating when someone posts a
code sample as earlier today.  In fact in that sample, alternate blanks appeared
as NBSP.

And Shmuel (sometimes; not always) manages to send posts that don't soft wrap
when I resize the window.  Perhaps he uses NBSP rather than SP.

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Re: increasing the size of a zFS file system...

2018-12-11 Thread Steely.Mark 
This is from IBM: 

Figure 1. Sample job to copy the physical blocks of an aggregate to a larger 
data set//SUIMGVMB JOB ,'EXPAND AGGR WITH REPRO',
// CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1)
//DEFINE   EXEC   PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=H
//SYSINDD *
 DEFINE CLUSTER (NAME(PLEX.NEW.AGGR002.LDS0002) -
LINEAR CYL(100 5) SHAREOPTIONS(3) -
VOLUMES(CFC000 CFC001))
/*
//LCAT1EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//* This step should show a HI-U-RBA of 0 
//* for PLEX.NEW.AGGR002.LDS002
//SYSINDD  *
  LISTCAT ENTRIES(PLEX.OLD.AGGR002.LDS0002) -
  ALL
  LISTCAT ENTRIES(PLEX.NEW.AGGR002.LDS0002) -
  ALL
/*
//REPRO1   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=H
//* The next line guarantees that the file system is not mounted
//IN1   DD DSN=PLEX.OLD.AGGR002.LDS0002,DISP=OLD
//SYSIN DD *
  REPRO -
 INFILE(IN1) -
 OUTDATASET(PLEX.NEW.AGGR002.LDS0002)
/*
//LCAT2EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//* This step should show the HI-U-RBA of 
//* PLEX.NEW.AGGR002.LDS002 equal to the HI-U-RBA
//* of PLEX.OLD.AGGR002.LDS002
//SYSINDD  *
  LISTCAT ENTRIES(PLEX.OLD.AGGR002.LDS0002) -
  ALL
  LISTCAT ENTRIES(PLEX.NEW.AGGR002.LDS0002) -
  ALL
/*

Thanks

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Subject: Re: increasing the size of a zFS file system...

I also use this command in batch to display how my zFS files are in size

//ZFCACHE1 EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH, 
// PARM='sh df -kP /appl/ars/Prod/cache' 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* 
//STDOUT DD SYSOUT=*


Good for batch or OMVS usage

But as others will point out, for User zFS/HFS files, use one per user.  With 
FTP and other processes using more and more USS services, some will grow really 
big and others will stay small.  You will also have an easier clean up process 
by using individual files for the file system.



Lizette


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> Lizette Koehler
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> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: increasing the size of a zFS file system...
> 
> I use this in Batch.  This grows the zFS based on the secondary allocation.
> 
> 
> 
> //XPT001 EXPORT SYMLIST=*
> //*
> //SYM001 SET NZFS='MY.MVS.DATA.SET.NAME.HERE'
> //*
> //ZFSGROW EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,
> // PARM='sh zfsadm grow -aggregate &NZFS. -size 0'
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
> //STDOUT DD SYSOUT=*
> 
> I put the zFS MVS Dataset name in a symbol as it makes my JCL easier to work
> with
> 
> 
> Lizette
> 
> >
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> > On Behalf Of DJ
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> >
> > Hello, all.
> > Does anyone happen to have handy a cheat sheet type document on how to
> > increase the size of a zFS file system, specifically the ZFS.USERS
> > (mounted at "/u") one?
> > Thanks in advance.
> > DJ
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Re: increasing the size of a zFS file system...

2018-12-11 Thread Lizette Koehler 
I also use this command in batch to display how my zFS files are in size

//ZFCACHE1 EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH, 
// PARM='sh df -kP /appl/ars/Prod/cache' 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* 
//STDOUT DD SYSOUT=*


Good for batch or OMVS usage

But as others will point out, for User zFS/HFS files, use one per user.  With 
FTP and other processes using more and more USS services, some will grow really 
big and others will stay small.  You will also have an easier clean up process 
by using individual files for the file system.



Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of
> Lizette Koehler
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 10:37 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: increasing the size of a zFS file system...
> 
> I use this in Batch.  This grows the zFS based on the secondary allocation.
> 
> 
> 
> //XPT001 EXPORT SYMLIST=*
> //*
> //SYM001 SET NZFS='MY.MVS.DATA.SET.NAME.HERE'
> //*
> //ZFSGROW EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,
> // PARM='sh zfsadm grow -aggregate &NZFS. -size 0'
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
> //STDOUT DD SYSOUT=*
> 
> I put the zFS MVS Dataset name in a symbol as it makes my JCL easier to work
> with
> 
> 
> Lizette
> 
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > On Behalf Of DJ
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 7:28 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: increasing the size of a zFS file system...
> >
> > Hello, all.
> > Does anyone happen to have handy a cheat sheet type document on how to
> > increase the size of a zFS file system, specifically the ZFS.USERS
> > (mounted at "/u") one?
> > Thanks in advance.
> > DJ
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Re: increasing the size of a zFS file system...

2018-12-11 Thread Lizette Koehler 
I use this in Batch.  This grows the zFS based on the secondary allocation.



//XPT001 EXPORT SYMLIST=*
//*
//SYM001 SET NZFS='MY.MVS.DATA.SET.NAME.HERE'
//*
//ZFSGROW EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,
// PARM='sh zfsadm grow -aggregate &NZFS. -size 0'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//STDOUT DD SYSOUT=*

I put the zFS MVS Dataset name in a symbol as it makes my JCL easier to work 
with


Lizette

> 
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of DJ
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 7:28 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: increasing the size of a zFS file system...
> 
> Hello, all.
> Does anyone happen to have handy a cheat sheet type document on how to
> increase the size of a zFS file system, specifically the ZFS.USERS (mounted
> at "/u") one?
> Thanks in advance.
> DJ

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Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread John Eells 

How about an ISPF Edit macro?

Here's one:

/*  REXX EDIT MACRO TO FLOW ENTIRE MEMBER TO SPECIFIED COLUMN   */
'ISREDIT MACRO (COLUMN)'
'ISREDIT (NUMLIN) = LINENUM .ZL'
COUNT = 1
DO WHILE COUNT <= NUMLIN - 1
  'ISREDIT TFLOW 'COUNT' 'COLUMN''
   COUNT = COUNT + 1
  'ISREDIT (NUMLIN) = LINENUM .ZL'
END

With the macro above, entering "FLOW2 72" on the command line would do 
what you want, I think.  Put it in a member of a PDS(E) concatenated to 
SYSEXEC.


Charles Mills wrote:

It's a totally reasonable "non-mainframey" text file. It has no carriage 
returns except at logical points, not at an arbitrary line width point.

Most e-mails you get follow this convention (other than old listserves that 
break up lines like this one).

It has nothing to do with MS-Word but yes, MS-Word also follows this convention.

No, the lines are nowhere near of equal length.

Fold would probably work. I have z/OS of course.

But as I said I now have the problem solved. Several good solutions presented 
here.

Charles


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On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:25:34 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:


Text consisting of paragraphs with no indentions or blank lines seems like a 
pretty odd notion of 'paragraphs'. ...


It's MS Word's convention.  Pressing ENTER inserts a ¶.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 14:32:11 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:



If the data that Charles is processing contains paragraphs without
intervening blank lines, all the paragraphs will be flowed together,  not
likely what he wants. Also, he mentioned that some of the lines
are several thousand bytes long.

DFSORT has resize operator which can split long records into short records
and merge the short records into long records.  So as you mentioned Text
flow needs a blank to work with, but DFSORT doesn't need one.  Here is a
sample. The only requirement is that the input dataset need to have
RECFM=FB


I wonder whether Charles's records are of equal length?  Or whether he cah
pad them?

I still recommend:
 fold -sw72 file.text

z/OS has it.  Linux has it.  MacOS has it.  I'd expect Windows 10 to have it.

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Re: increasing the size of a zFS file system...

2018-12-11 Thread Neubert, Kevin 
If you can't grow, it's not already a multi-volume aggregate, etc.  Increase 
the size of the aggregate:

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ioea700/incr_size_aggr.htm

If you're going through the trouble of the latter, you may want to pursue a 
version 1.5 aggregate if you're at least z/OS V2R1:

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ioea700/fiveagg.htm

Regards,

Kevin

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Hello, all.
Does anyone happen to have handy a cheat sheet type document on how to increase 
the size of a zFS file system, specifically the ZFS.USERS (mounted at "/u") one?
Thanks in advance.
DJ

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Re: increasing the size of a zFS file system...

2018-12-11 Thread Jousma, David 
As superuser:   zfsadm grow -a ZFS.USERS -s yournewsize

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Re: increasing the size of a zFS file system...

2018-12-11 Thread Tom Marchant 
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:27:31 -0600, DJ wrote:

>Does anyone happen to have handy a cheat sheet type document 
>on how to increase the size of a zFS file system, specifically the 
>ZFS.USERS (mounted at "/u") one?

Not an answer to your question, but

You have one ZFS for all your users' home directories?

IMO, you should consider using automount to manage /u so that each 
user has their own ZFS that is mounted as needed.

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Re: increasing the size of a zFS file system...

2018-12-11 Thread R.S. 

W dniu 2018-12-11 o 16:27, DJ pisze:

Hello, all.
Does anyone happen to have handy a cheat sheet type document on how to increase the size 
of a zFS file system, specifically the ZFS.USERS (mounted at "/u") one?


Secondary extents?

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2018-12-11 Thread DJ 
Hello, all.
Does anyone happen to have handy a cheat sheet type document on how to increase 
the size of a zFS file system, specifically the ZFS.USERS (mounted at "/u") one?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Jeremy Nicoll 
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018, at 17:48, Charles Mills wrote:
> Oh, I did it as a primary command because I wanted it done to the entire
> file.

Another option is the TFF line command (so you'd mark the first and last
applicable lines in the file that way) in 'SPFlite', see

http://www.spflite.com/HtmlS/TF.html


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Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

2018-12-11 Thread Jeremy Nicoll 
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018, at 05:25, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 06:05:57 +0100, Mike Beer wrote:
> 
> >Any XEDIT compatible editor (e.g. THE) should do this with a few commands
> >
> >ZONE 1 72
> >FLOW
> >FILE
> > 
> I find no FLOW command in:
> z/VM Version 7 Release 1  XEDIT Commands and Macros Reference
> IBM  SC24-6337-00
> 
> Is XEDIT considered an "XEDIT compatible editor"?

Don't know...

> Regardless, I understood that FLOW limited editing to columns within
> its range, so text beyond column 72 would be left unchanged.

I use Kedit, and that's not the case there.  Kedit ignores data (in almost 
every command, not just FLOW) to the right of the 'truncation column'.
That's the purpose of that setting.  The default of SET TRUNC is the same 
as the maximum line width, so there's no data to the right of that point
so this is only an issue of you've chosen to make it so.

Also, in Kedit at least, the term "range" refers to the start and end lines
in a file over which a command operates.The start and end columns 
are set by SET ZONE.

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