Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
IBM Legal has a conniption fit over the word 'free', but I'm pretty sure that as a base element, there is 'no charge' once you pay the freight for z/OS. The key in uploading or downloading anything other than straight text is to specify 'binary'. The Vista3270 app gives you that choice and remembers from one invocation to the next. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Is it free? I see it's a "base element." Does that make it free? (Gift with purchase.) I seemed to recall that it was chargeable. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.e0za100/e0za10034.htm Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I refrained from mentioning IND$FILE because that did not seem to be the question. But in fact I'm a fan of IND$FILE: it's built in to z/OS, i.e. free; it's simple to use; and it's reasonably efficient for small files. I would never attempt to use it for very large files, but for a moderate size file, I can have the file transferred using IND$FILE in less time than I would spend trying to correct the syntax and pass the typos with FTP. Best of all, Tom Brennan's Vista3270 has a graphical interface to IND$FILE that makes up- or downloading a file pretty easy. I asked Tom why he didn't include a similar function for FTP. He said that he did not invent (or maintain) the IND$FILE graphical feature, which is a standard function that he simply hooks into. There are of course comparable products for FTP, but Tom doesn't have to make assumptions or requirements for IND$FILE. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Wha...? I might have misunderstood you, but it sounds like you're saying I can 1) collect all the REXX execs I want to transfer to the mainframe, 2) ZIP them up (using PKZIP or WinZIP or 7-ZIP or whatever), 3) IND$FILE the .zip file to the mainframe, and then 4) ...here's where I bog down. Is there a mainframe utility that can read .zip files? And if there is (I never dreamt that), maybe I actually bog down at step 3: Do I do the transfer in text or binary? Are you sure you're not just having me on? Even if you are, it suddenly occurs to me that there's a PC-based utility that handles XMIT files, and I think I have a copy left over from an old project. I can bundle them all up in a XMIT file, copy that to the host, then RECEIVE it there. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Every contrition for sin is apt to encourage a not-quite-charitable wish that other people should exhibit a similar contrition. -Charles Williams (1886-1945) */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:34 Why not zip them and do a single transfer of the zip file, then unzip them? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:20 AM Sometimes all that's allowed, though. Some of my clients lock up FTP, and make me use IND$FILE via whatever local 3270 emulation they use. This can be a major pain. Whenever I start at a new installation, one of my first jobs is to load up a bunch of REXX tools I've written over the years. If I have to do them one at a time, it's a big bottleneck. Most apps of that sort allow you to set up a list of files - but you have to enter the list manually, one by one, providing the filename on your PC and the target DSN on the mainframe, so it's not saving anything (and is a one-time job, after all). Last time I had to deal with it I reverse-engineered the format used for multi-file transfers and had VBA create a longer list for me. I felt a fine, self-congratulatory glow at having hacked the system, but really, it shouldn't have been necessary. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: We
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
Is it free? I see it's a "base element." Does that make it free? (Gift with purchase.) I seemed to recall that it was chargeable. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.e0za100/e0za10034.htm Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I refrained from mentioning IND$FILE because that did not seem to be the question. But in fact I'm a fan of IND$FILE: it's built in to z/OS, i.e. free; it's simple to use; and it's reasonably efficient for small files. I would never attempt to use it for very large files, but for a moderate size file, I can have the file transferred using IND$FILE in less time than I would spend trying to correct the syntax and pass the typos with FTP. Best of all, Tom Brennan's Vista3270 has a graphical interface to IND$FILE that makes up- or downloading a file pretty easy. I asked Tom why he didn't include a similar function for FTP. He said that he did not invent (or maintain) the IND$FILE graphical feature, which is a standard function that he simply hooks into. There are of course comparable products for FTP, but Tom doesn't have to make assumptions or requirements for IND$FILE. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Wha...? I might have misunderstood you, but it sounds like you're saying I can 1) collect all the REXX execs I want to transfer to the mainframe, 2) ZIP them up (using PKZIP or WinZIP or 7-ZIP or whatever), 3) IND$FILE the .zip file to the mainframe, and then 4) ...here's where I bog down. Is there a mainframe utility that can read .zip files? And if there is (I never dreamt that), maybe I actually bog down at step 3: Do I do the transfer in text or binary? Are you sure you're not just having me on? Even if you are, it suddenly occurs to me that there's a PC-based utility that handles XMIT files, and I think I have a copy left over from an old project. I can bundle them all up in a XMIT file, copy that to the host, then RECEIVE it there. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Every contrition for sin is apt to encourage a not-quite-charitable wish that other people should exhibit a similar contrition. -Charles Williams (1886-1945) */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:34 Why not zip them and do a single transfer of the zip file, then unzip them? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:20 AM Sometimes all that's allowed, though. Some of my clients lock up FTP, and make me use IND$FILE via whatever local 3270 emulation they use. This can be a major pain. Whenever I start at a new installation, one of my first jobs is to load up a bunch of REXX tools I've written over the years. If I have to do them one at a time, it's a big bottleneck. Most apps of that sort allow you to set up a list of files - but you have to enter the list manually, one by one, providing the filename on your PC and the target DSN on the mainframe, so it's not saving anything (and is a one-time job, after all). Last time I had to deal with it I reverse-engineered the format used for multi-file transfers and had VBA create a longer list for me. I felt a fine, self-congratulatory glow at having hacked the system, but really, it shouldn't have been necessary. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 23:39 Also slower than a dog, and if you are working for the security folks, basically unaudited. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:05 PM I have painfully experienced instances where IND$FILE (on z/VM) mangled a Binary Upload from my MS-Windows 10 Pro workstation. It works every time I use FTP, though (via CLI or WinSCP). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MA
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
DFDSS defrag with NORUN will provide a map. PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V2R03.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2020.171 08:45 ADR031I (SCH)-PRIME(01), TYPRUN=NORUN REQUESTED. TASKS WILL EXECUTE IN NORUN MODE DEFRAG DDNAME(DISKIN) - FRAGI(020) - EXCLUDE(LIST( - **.PROCLIB, - SYS1.**, - SYS2.**, - SYS3.**, - SYS9.**, - )) ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'DEFRAG ' ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2020.171 08:45:59 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMENTS COMPLETED ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2020.171 08:45:59 EXECUTION BEGINS ADR208I (001)-DFRGD(01), 2020.171 08:45:59 BEGINNING STATISTICS ON WKL600: FREE CYLINDERS 00029603 FREE TRACKS 0009 FREE EXTENTS 0002 LARGEST FREE EXTENT (CYL,TRK) 00029603,00 FRAGMENTATION INDEX 0.000 PERCENT FREE SPACE 98 ADR234I (001)-DFANL(01), SEQUENCE C:H 1 - C:H 2 EXTENT DESCRIPTION ADR235I (001)-DFANL(01), 0001 :0 :0 VOLUME LABEL ADR235I (001)-DFANL(01), 0008 :1 :5 0001 SYS20158.T235401.RA000.ZTOMCN.SYSIN.H01 ADR235I (001)-DFANL(01), 0024 :6 :A 0001 SYS20158.T235403.RA000.ZTOMD5.SYSIN.H01 ADR235I (001)-DFANL(01), 0098 :B :B 0001 SYS20166.T202409.RA000.FUWFWFR.CARDIN.H01 ADR235I (001)-DFANL(01), 0099 :C :C 0001 SYS20166.T203538.RA000.FUWFWTR.CARDIN.H01 ADR235I (001)-DFANL(01), 0100 :D :D 0001 SYS20166.T212104.RA000.TXCQAIR.CARDIN.H01 ADR235I (001)-DFANL(01), 0101 :E :E 0001 SYS20159.T213138.RA000.TXCQAFR.CARDIN2.H03 ADR235I (001)-DFANL(01), 0005 0001:0 000A:E 0001 SYS1.VTOCIX.WKL600 ADR235I (001)-DFANL(01), 0002 000B:0 003C:E VOLUME TABLE OF CONTENTS ADR235I (001)-DFANL(01), 0006 003D:0 0046:E 0001 SYS20158.T235401.RA000.EMCCX.R0100587 ADR235I (001)-DFANL(01), 0007 0047:0 0050:E 0001 SYS20158.T235401.RA000.EMCCX.R0100589 ADR235I (001)-DFANL(01), 0009 0051:0 0051:E 0001 SYS20158.T235401.RA000.ZTOMOC0.TMPCMDU.H01 ADR235I (001)-DFANL(01), 0010 0052:0 0052:E 0001 SYS20158.T235401.RA000.ZTOMDSH.TMPCMDU.H01 On 6/19/2020 6:14 AM, Steve Horein wrote: That was my first thought as well, but didn't remember to execute samples today. On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 1:42 PM Roger Lowe wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 08:53:37 -0400, Brian France wrote: I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! Have you tried using IEHLIST? //S001 EXEC PGM=IEHLIST //FILE DD UNIT=DISK,VOL=SER=??,DISP=SHR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=Z //SYSINDD * LISTVTOC VOL=3390=?? Roger -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- regards Leon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
I refrained from mentioning IND$FILE because that did not seem to be the question. But in fact I'm a fan of IND$FILE: it's built in to z/OS, i.e. free; it's simple to use; and it's reasonably efficient for small files. I would never attempt to use it for very large files, but for a moderate size file, I can have the file transferred using IND$FILE in less time than I would spend trying to correct the syntax and pass the typos with FTP. Best of all, Tom Brennan's Vista3270 has a graphical interface to IND$FILE that makes up- or downloading a file pretty easy. I asked Tom why he didn't include a similar function for FTP. He said that he did not invent (or maintain) the IND$FILE graphical feature, which is a standard function that he simply hooks into. There are of course comparable products for FTP, but Tom doesn't have to make assumptions or requirements for IND$FILE. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Wha...? I might have misunderstood you, but it sounds like you're saying I can 1) collect all the REXX execs I want to transfer to the mainframe, 2) ZIP them up (using PKZIP or WinZIP or 7-ZIP or whatever), 3) IND$FILE the .zip file to the mainframe, and then 4) ...here's where I bog down. Is there a mainframe utility that can read .zip files? And if there is (I never dreamt that), maybe I actually bog down at step 3: Do I do the transfer in text or binary? Are you sure you're not just having me on? Even if you are, it suddenly occurs to me that there's a PC-based utility that handles XMIT files, and I think I have a copy left over from an old project. I can bundle them all up in a XMIT file, copy that to the host, then RECEIVE it there. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Every contrition for sin is apt to encourage a not-quite-charitable wish that other people should exhibit a similar contrition. -Charles Williams (1886-1945) */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:34 Why not zip them and do a single transfer of the zip file, then unzip them? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:20 AM Sometimes all that's allowed, though. Some of my clients lock up FTP, and make me use IND$FILE via whatever local 3270 emulation they use. This can be a major pain. Whenever I start at a new installation, one of my first jobs is to load up a bunch of REXX tools I've written over the years. If I have to do them one at a time, it's a big bottleneck. Most apps of that sort allow you to set up a list of files - but you have to enter the list manually, one by one, providing the filename on your PC and the target DSN on the mainframe, so it's not saving anything (and is a one-time job, after all). Last time I had to deal with it I reverse-engineered the format used for multi-file transfers and had VBA create a longer list for me. I felt a fine, self-congratulatory glow at having hacked the system, but really, it shouldn't have been necessary. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 23:39 Also slower than a dog, and if you are working for the security folks, basically unaudited. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:05 PM I have painfully experienced instances where IND$FILE (on z/VM) mangled a Binary Upload from my MS-Windows 10 Pro workstation. It works every time I use FTP, though (via CLI or WinSCP). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Ent. Cobol sign with certificate
More detail on what you are trying to do? Sign what? Where does COBOL come into this? Which Enterprise COBOL? (4? 6.2? 6.3?) What environment? (Batch, CICS, Websphere, ...?) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Ent. Cobol sign with certificate I know i can digitally sign with icsf. However, the requirement is to use s certificate and private key. Possible? ITscchak -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
That was my first thought as well, but didn't remember to execute samples today. On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 1:42 PM Roger Lowe wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 08:53:37 -0400, Brian France wrote: > > > I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command > >but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with > >fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! > > > > Have you tried using IEHLIST? > > //S001 EXEC PGM=IEHLIST > //FILE DD UNIT=DISK,VOL=SER=??,DISP=SHR > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=Z > //SYSINDD * > LISTVTOC VOL=3390=?? > > > Roger > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question About Sub System Interface Function Call 08
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 13:10, esst...@juno.com wrote: [...] > To be clear I'm interested in understanding SSI Function Call 08 and > not a Resource Manager. > . > If this function call is defined by a subsystem, the only variables presented > to the function routine are: and SSENASID (ASID of Ending Address Space), > SSENASCB (Address Of Ending Address Space ASCB), > SSENJBNM (Job Name List Pointer) of the SSEN Control Block. Well you do have the entry values common to all SSI calls, notably the SSCVT entry for your subsystem in R0. > It is my understanding This Function Routine would need to examine some or all > of the above variables in the SSEN Control Block. The Function Routine would > need > to compare these variables against some previously stored values that the > sub-systems > function routine is interested in. > . > These "values of interest" would need to be possibly stored in some common > storage. > My question is how does SSI Function Call 08 determine where the "values of > interest" > are stored ? Or Where they are stored ? [...] > How was this validation coordinated prior to the existence of Name Token > Pairs ? Typically in common storage pointed to by the SSCVT - usually SSCTSUSE or SSCTSUS2. You could do worse than to examine the JES2 source code in module HASCJBTR near label SSIENEOM. In the JES2 case field SSCTSUS2 contains the address of the primary JES2 anchor block in CSA, the HCCT, which then points to pretty much anything needed, including ultimately information about each job/address space that runs under or uses services of that instance of JES2. I don't see a strong case for using name/token services when you already have a pair of pointers owned by the subsystem. I suppose N/T might be useful as a sort of associative memory for finding info about a particular address space that has used your subsystem's services. AFAIK the System Level N/T services are available in any context, and are quite high performing on retrieval. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Messages & Codes (was Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes")
Well, I also worked for Volvo. In Poland, Wrocław. Hint: Volvo is swedish company, but they also have Renault trucks. So, polish guys in Wrocław worked on swedish terminal emulator to connect to french mainframes with french messages from some exits (ridiculous IMHO). Polish guys called it "Ratatouille". However I liked this company and atmosphere. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 12.06.2020 o 23:36, Bob Bridges pisze: Volvo Truck NA, for whom I worked 14 years, had a sort of DOS-101 class for all our end users who were trying to figure out how to use the PCs newly on their desks. Some of them actually seemed to pay attention, and came back to their cubicles understanding, for instance, what a root directory is and why it isn't a good idea to have all their documents there. So they'd start looking through their hard drive's root directory and deleting old stuff. Harvard-Graphics documents: move them or delete them. Old WordPerfect documents: if they're old enough, dump 'em. Here are a couple of utilities they never got around to using: Delete them. COMMAND.COM ... wait, "COMMAND.COM"? What's that? Another utility I never use; out it goes. This is not the end of the world. Any copy of COMMAND.COM will work; there's no need to carefully match the correct version with the OS on the victim's machine. But one day a coworker was leaving our location, on his way to the 3rd floor to replace someone's COMMAND.COM and loudly wondering why the #!$@ users couldn't leave their %#@* files the @#*&! alone. I expostulated: "Randy, relax. This is an easy fix. And these guys who're doing this, they're the guys that'll learn eventually, and be..." well, one of the users Mr Metz admonishes us (correctly) to cherish. "In six months you'll be able to talk to this guy on the phone, instead of looking over his shoulder, and say "I dunno, maybe it's in the Windows directory; go look there", instead of saying "Ok, type this: cee dee colon backslash ess wye [and so on]...have you hit yet? Hit ...". I like the knowledgeable ones better. The others give us the entertaining horror stories, but I don't mind investing time in training the ones who want to learn. That's actually one of the things I found most rewarding about end-user support. What ended up driving me out were the users who steadfastly declined to have their problems explained. (If you're playing on-line games and run across a character named "Teacher", there's a good chance it's me.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I think everyone who chooses to stay out of politics (which is your right) should make a mental note of where they would draw the line and feel it necessary to get involved. Then ask yourself: Is it possible that point already arrived, but it happened too slowly to notice? -Chris Evans */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 12:39 On the flip side, there are some users who know what they are doing and give you the data that you need to resolve the problem. Cherish them. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN . == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169.401
Ent. Cobol sign with certificate
I know i can digitally sign with icsf. However, the requirement is to use s certificate and private key. Possible? ITscchak -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
> pax -w that UNIX directory with option to convert to ASCII Thats likely to break his file, depending on what characters he uses. The safes thing is to translate to UTF-8. I hate 8-bit code pages! -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:34:28 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: >Wha...? I might have misunderstood you, but it sounds like you're saying I >can 1) collect all the REXX execs I want to transfer to the mainframe, 2) >ZIP them up (using PKZIP or WinZIP or 7-ZIP or whatever), 3) IND$FILE the >.zip file to the mainframe, and then 4) ...here's where I bog down. Is >there a mainframe utility that can read .zip files? > jar. Do you need them extracted on the desktop? o No: Collect them in a PDS TSO TRANSMIT OUTFILE(...) transfer *binary* directly or with desktop waystation to target z/OS Extract with TSO RECEIVE INFILE(...) o Yes: - collect them in a PDS - OPUTX or CP to a UNIX directory Or: - collect them in a UNIX directory pax -w that UNIX directory with option to convert to ASCII transfer *binary* to desktop Extract pax with WinZip or such transfer pax archive *binary* to zOS target pax -r that archive with option to convert to EBCDIC (I hate EBCDIC!) >And if there is (I never dreamt that), maybe I actually bog down at step 3: >Do I do the transfer in text or binary? > >Are you sure you're not just having me on? > ??? >Even if you are, it suddenly occurs to me that there's a PC-based utility >that handles XMIT files, and I think I have a copy left over from an old >project. I can bundle them all up in a XMIT file, copy that to the host, >then RECEIVE it there. > More likely extract than pack. try CBTTAPE. Might be useful (I'm not afflicted with Windows; this is mere hearsay): http://secure-web.cisco.com/1zrulqhYyXaVJGDe61TQjfw7zrq6E4Q4tzIo9qVxUxYacm_oGqlQzwGLtz86NZrh0a4oPiP6PpYqDSxtMo1FKxItk5V5Yzqt14l3fjq4IHCX5qXXdCwPHT8z6zhiAW-QLWvHiH2dqWfR5VKi2B_o_3V6ABPY1bBwU3Fsoe8Gidyx0vvzVr93pfwApYWgjbzsl7SACKIsfz1l-SCOTVNSgHiZVpGSbWPfSyNwOReiU4pKqTTVOaX8UTmLntlrW3IMp56dnd9sA_XrihRMiETVIRwSoOb3nZN_mMPEKT8M2ZH5W0neI4yY_CEew0KAmijdaycjit-RNYY4l-87UcdgNmAfOx0tvndsJ3qNCX3-w3vuLEQeo1rbD-KVVvhKdPxUbimXFrUroOuV8uNaQ_OLuCTEICV7HmTQyxsmbox6EDlxlGYVtvT2-eNGlOBvedTXF/http%3A%2F%2Fplanetmvs.com%2Funxmit%2F >-Original Message- >From: Seymour J Metz >Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:34 > >Why not zip them and do a single transfer of the zip file, then unzip them? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
Z/Explorer is free, I think based on discussions with others part of the base @ 2.4 level. it can be installed independently. My CICS SYSPROG told me they needed it for CICS Explorer, so I ordered and installed it on my 2.2 system - @ now I have it on my 2.3 systems the product name in the samplib I have is IBM Explorer for z/OS FMID(HALG320) Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:38:07 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Looks like my confusion is I don't seem to actually have z/OS Explorer, but rather the "z/OS view" of IBM Problem Determination Tools Studio. I guess they are not the same thing. Is z/OS Explorer, including the server/host side of the product truly no-cost? If so I guess I could ask for it to be installed. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access okay, understand, FEK is the HLQ for zexplorer, but yes a sysprog would need to install it if not installed, configure and setup the security or have the secadmin do the security. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:20:14 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I'm not a sysprog so I can't configure anything myself. I don't that we have an SFEK* set of libraries on the system currently. 🙁 The documentation I've just now looked at seems to indicate this is part of IBM Developer/Rational Developer for z/OS. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access >From what I recall, I don't have any doc at home, the configuration is done >using the FEF.SFEKSAMP library for the RSED address space. the Unix part located in /usr/lpp/IBM/zexpl contains some environmental and configuration files it was not hard to setup and once the client is installed you get one view of your workstation MVS and USS files, TSO command window and a USS window to run scripts File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 1387 ISPF.conf File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 2916 process_audit.rex File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 2187 process_logon.sh File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 324 pushtoclient.properties File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 7844 rse.env File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 308 rsecomm.properties File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 294 ssl.properties Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:52:18 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Looks like some of this might be part of the "Remote System Explorer" perspective, which I don't see to have configured. Does this require z/OS configuration? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access the FMID is (HALG320) the GUI client is Aqua explorer for zos, IIRC I currently do not have the GUI client on the loaner laptop I'm using at home so I cannot be 100% sure Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:29:58 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Hey Carmen, Is that z/OS Explorer (free) or is that IBM Developer (formerly Rational Developer -- expensive) for Z that you are referring to? I know that z/OS Explorer uses FTP under the covers, but I've not seen it having a normal drag and drop style FTP GUI, or have I seen an ability to run shell scripts or TSO commands. Perhaps I'm overlooking some things. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I've always liked the reflections FTP client, I've not been able to use any other client, but I am not starting to use IBM's Z/explorer , that GUI along with an MVS address space will get you MVS dataset, USS filesystem, local fileystems access plus the ability to run shell scripts, and tso command from the GUI moving or coping datasets can be done using a drag and drop. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:09:55 PM Subject: Good FTP client for MVS data set access What FTP client do you use to access MVS data sets? Do you like it? I personally
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 08:53:37 -0400, Brian France wrote: > I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command >but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with >fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! > Have you tried using IEHLIST? //S001 EXEC PGM=IEHLIST //FILE DD UNIT=DISK,VOL=SER=??,DISP=SHR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=Z //SYSINDD * LISTVTOC VOL=3390=?? Roger -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
Looks like my confusion is I don't seem to actually have z/OS Explorer, but rather the "z/OS view" of IBM Problem Determination Tools Studio. I guess they are not the same thing. Is z/OS Explorer, including the server/host side of the product truly no-cost? If so I guess I could ask for it to be installed. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access okay, understand, FEK is the HLQ for zexplorer, but yes a sysprog would need to install it if not installed, configure and setup the security or have the secadmin do the security. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:20:14 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I'm not a sysprog so I can't configure anything myself. I don't that we have an SFEK* set of libraries on the system currently. 🙁 The documentation I've just now looked at seems to indicate this is part of IBM Developer/Rational Developer for z/OS. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access From what I recall, I don't have any doc at home, the configuration is done using the FEF.SFEKSAMP library for the RSED address space. the Unix part located in /usr/lpp/IBM/zexpl contains some environmental and configuration files it was not hard to setup and once the client is installed you get one view of your workstation MVS and USS files, TSO command window and a USS window to run scripts File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 1387 ISPF.conf File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 2916 process_audit.rex File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 2187 process_logon.sh File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 324 pushtoclient.properties File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 7844 rse.env File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 308 rsecomm.properties File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 294 ssl.properties Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:52:18 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Looks like some of this might be part of the "Remote System Explorer" perspective, which I don't see to have configured. Does this require z/OS configuration? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access the FMID is (HALG320) the GUI client is Aqua explorer for zos, IIRC I currently do not have the GUI client on the loaner laptop I'm using at home so I cannot be 100% sure Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:29:58 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Hey Carmen, Is that z/OS Explorer (free) or is that IBM Developer (formerly Rational Developer -- expensive) for Z that you are referring to? I know that z/OS Explorer uses FTP under the covers, but I've not seen it having a normal drag and drop style FTP GUI, or have I seen an ability to run shell scripts or TSO commands. Perhaps I'm overlooking some things. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I've always liked the reflections FTP client, I've not been able to use any other client, but I am not starting to use IBM's Z/explorer , that GUI along with an MVS address space will get you MVS dataset, USS filesystem, local fileystems access plus the ability to run shell scripts, and tso command from the GUI moving or coping datasets can be done using a drag and drop. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:09:55 PM Subject: Good FTP client for MVS data set access What FTP client do you use to access MVS data sets? Do you like it? I personally use the FTP Client that is part of Micro Focus (formerly Attachmate) Reflection Desktop for IBM (Reflection Workspace). Being an application suite dedicated to mainframe access (the application is primarily a TN3270 client), the FTP Client that goes along with it seems to truly understand the idiosyncrasies of MVS and works quite well with it. On the other hand, only a limited number of users in our shop are "authorized" to use Reflection, so they cannot use its FTP client. They are stuck (currently) with an MVS hostile (IMO) application called CuteFTP. Are there any good "freestanding" FTP GUI application
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:34 PM Bob Bridges wrote:
> Wha...? I might have misunderstood you, but it sounds like you're saying I
> can 1) collect all the REXX execs I want to transfer to the mainframe, 2)
> ZIP them up (using PKZIP or WinZIP or 7-ZIP or whatever), 3) IND$FILE the
> .zip file to the mainframe, and then 4) ...here's where I bog down. Is
> there a mainframe utility that can read .zip files?
>
The Java "jar" command can read & write zip files. That's because a jar
file is just a zip file of a directory with a specific format of what the
names are.
>
> And if there is (I never dreamt that), maybe I actually bog down at step 3:
> Do I do the transfer in text or binary?
>
always transfer zip (or jar) files in BINARY. I would guess that the "text"
(REXX) files extracted would be in ASCII (most likely the Windows-1250, but
some might actually be UTF-8). So you'd likely need to use the z/OS UNIX
"iconv" command (or some equivalent) to translate the text into some EBCDIC
code page. The two main ones are the "legacy" CP-037, which is what I think
of as the "JCL" code page & the IBM-1047 code page which is the "z/OS UNIX"
code page as well as the one which I think is the C language default. The
main differences are in the "funny" character such as: { } [ ] | which are
heavily used in C & UNIX.
All answers are given with a 110% money back guarantee of correctness (and
110% of nothing is still nothing). {grin}
Me being me, I'd just use the Co:Z products at
http://dovetail.com/products/dspipes.html They are free to use. You can get
a support contract.
>
> Are you sure you're not just having me on?
>
> Even if you are, it suddenly occurs to me that there's a PC-based utility
> that handles XMIT files, and I think I have a copy left over from an old
> project. I can bundle them all up in a XMIT file, copy that to the host,
> then RECEIVE it there.
>
> ---
> Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
>
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Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
okay, understand, FEK is the HLQ for zexplorer, but yes a sysprog would need to install it if not installed, configure and setup the security or have the secadmin do the security. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:20:14 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I'm not a sysprog so I can't configure anything myself. I don't that we have an SFEK* set of libraries on the system currently. 🙁 The documentation I've just now looked at seems to indicate this is part of IBM Developer/Rational Developer for z/OS. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access >From what I recall, I don't have any doc at home, the configuration is done >using the FEF.SFEKSAMP library for the RSED address space. the Unix part located in /usr/lpp/IBM/zexpl contains some environmental and configuration files it was not hard to setup and once the client is installed you get one view of your workstation MVS and USS files, TSO command window and a USS window to run scripts File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 1387 ISPF.conf File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 2916 process_audit.rex File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 2187 process_logon.sh File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 324 pushtoclient.properties File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 7844 rse.env File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 308 rsecomm.properties File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 294 ssl.properties Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:52:18 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Looks like some of this might be part of the "Remote System Explorer" perspective, which I don't see to have configured. Does this require z/OS configuration? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access the FMID is (HALG320) the GUI client is Aqua explorer for zos, IIRC I currently do not have the GUI client on the loaner laptop I'm using at home so I cannot be 100% sure Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:29:58 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Hey Carmen, Is that z/OS Explorer (free) or is that IBM Developer (formerly Rational Developer -- expensive) for Z that you are referring to? I know that z/OS Explorer uses FTP under the covers, but I've not seen it having a normal drag and drop style FTP GUI, or have I seen an ability to run shell scripts or TSO commands. Perhaps I'm overlooking some things. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I've always liked the reflections FTP client, I've not been able to use any other client, but I am not starting to use IBM's Z/explorer , that GUI along with an MVS address space will get you MVS dataset, USS filesystem, local fileystems access plus the ability to run shell scripts, and tso command from the GUI moving or coping datasets can be done using a drag and drop. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:09:55 PM Subject: Good FTP client for MVS data set access What FTP client do you use to access MVS data sets? Do you like it? I personally use the FTP Client that is part of Micro Focus (formerly Attachmate) Reflection Desktop for IBM (Reflection Workspace). Being an application suite dedicated to mainframe access (the application is primarily a TN3270 client), the FTP Client that goes along with it seems to truly understand the idiosyncrasies of MVS and works quite well with it. On the other hand, only a limited number of users in our shop are "authorized" to use Reflection, so they cannot use its FTP client. They are stuck (currently) with an MVS hostile (IMO) application called CuteFTP. Are there any good "freestanding" FTP GUI applications that are "MVS friendly"? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:34:28 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: >Wha...? I might have misunderstood you, but it sounds like you're saying I >can 1) collect all the REXX execs I want to transfer to the mainframe, 2) >ZIP them up (using PKZIP or WinZIP or 7-ZIP or whatever), 3) IND$FILE the >.zip file to the mainframe, and then 4) ...here's where I bog down. Is >there a mainframe utility that can read .zip files? > jar. Do you need them extracted on the desktop? o No: Collect them in a PDS TSO TRANSMIT OUTFILE(...) transfer *binary* directly or with desktop waystation to target z/OS Extract with TSO RECEIVE INFILE(...) o Yes: - collect them in a PDS - OPUTX or CP to a UNIX directory Or: - collect them in a UNIX directory pax -w that UNIX directory with option to convert to ASCII transfer *binary* to desktop Extract pax with WinZip or such transfer pax archive *binary* to zOS target pax -r that archive with option to convert to EBCDIC (I hate EBCDIC!) >And if there is (I never dreamt that), maybe I actually bog down at step 3: >Do I do the transfer in text or binary? > >Are you sure you're not just having me on? > ??? >Even if you are, it suddenly occurs to me that there's a PC-based utility >that handles XMIT files, and I think I have a copy left over from an old >project. I can bundle them all up in a XMIT file, copy that to the host, >then RECEIVE it there. > More likely extract than pack. try CBTTAPE. Might be useful (I'm not afflicted with Windows; this is mere hearsay): http://planetmvs.com/unxmit/ >-Original Message- >From: Seymour J Metz >Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:34 > >Why not zip them and do a single transfer of the zip file, then unzip them? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question About Sub System Interface Function Call 08
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:10 PM esst...@juno.com wrote:
> Hello,.
> I'm exploring the use of Sub System Interface
> .
> I understand a resource manager is the preferred method for handling
> specific ending address space termination.
> .
> To be clear I'm interested in understanding SSI Function Call 08 and
> not a Resource Manager.
> .
> If this function call is defined by a subsystem, the only variables
> presented
> to the function routine are: and SSENASID (ASID of Ending Address Space),
> SSENASCB (Address Of Ending Address Space ASCB),
> SSENJBNM (Job Name List Pointer) of the SSEN Control Block.
> .
> It is my understanding This Function Routine would need to examine some or
> all
> of the above variables in the SSEN Control Block. The Function Routine
> would need
> to compare these variables against some previously stored values that the
> sub-systems
> function routine is interested in.
> .
> These "values of interest" would need to be possibly stored in some common
> storage.
> My question is how does SSI Function Call 08 determine where the "values
> of interest"
> are stored ? Or Where they are stored ?
> .
> The subsystem may be interested in the termination of several address
> spaces.
> You wouldn't design a unique SSI Function Call 8 routine for each address
> space of interest.
> .
> One technique that comes to mind is the use of a System Level Name Token
> Pair (NTP).
> The Name of the NTP could contain the specific Job Name of Interest and
> the tokens
> could contain the "values of interest" to compare to SSENASID (ASID of
> Ending Address Space),
> and/or SSENASCB (Address Of Ending Address Space ASCB).
> .
> Is there any assurance that a System Level Name Token is available when
> termination is started ?
>
I'm not totally sure, but I _assume_ so due to this:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieaa200/ieantrt.htm
> Is the System Level even available to this routine ?
>
There is nothing that I can see in the documentation which says YES or NO.
How was this validation coordinated prior to the existence of Name Token
> Pairs ?
>
It was _ugly_. I saw one way, long ago, where a type 2 SVC was used. These
SVCs are LPA resident. The code would first do a page fix on a data area
inside itself so that it would never be paged out or page released. It
would then do a GETMAIN for common storage. Next, it would remove page
store protection on that data area page & store the address of the common
area inside. Lastly, it would reprotect the data area page. {shudder}
Also, some code tried to share use of the CWA field in the CSA. But this
took a lot of vendor coordination. Today's use of a SSVT is much nicer.
> .
> Paul D'Angelo
> .
>
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Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
I'm not a sysprog so I can't configure anything myself. I don't that we have an SFEK* set of libraries on the system currently. 🙁 The documentation I've just now looked at seems to indicate this is part of IBM Developer/Rational Developer for z/OS. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access From what I recall, I don't have any doc at home, the configuration is done using the FEF.SFEKSAMP library for the RSED address space. the Unix part located in /usr/lpp/IBM/zexpl contains some environmental and configuration files it was not hard to setup and once the client is installed you get one view of your workstation MVS and USS files, TSO command window and a USS window to run scripts File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 1387 ISPF.conf File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 2916 process_audit.rex File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 2187 process_logon.sh File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 324 pushtoclient.properties File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 7844 rse.env File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 308 rsecomm.properties File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 294 ssl.properties Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:52:18 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Looks like some of this might be part of the "Remote System Explorer" perspective, which I don't see to have configured. Does this require z/OS configuration? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access the FMID is (HALG320) the GUI client is Aqua explorer for zos, IIRC I currently do not have the GUI client on the loaner laptop I'm using at home so I cannot be 100% sure Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:29:58 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Hey Carmen, Is that z/OS Explorer (free) or is that IBM Developer (formerly Rational Developer -- expensive) for Z that you are referring to? I know that z/OS Explorer uses FTP under the covers, but I've not seen it having a normal drag and drop style FTP GUI, or have I seen an ability to run shell scripts or TSO commands. Perhaps I'm overlooking some things. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I've always liked the reflections FTP client, I've not been able to use any other client, but I am not starting to use IBM's Z/explorer , that GUI along with an MVS address space will get you MVS dataset, USS filesystem, local fileystems access plus the ability to run shell scripts, and tso command from the GUI moving or coping datasets can be done using a drag and drop. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:09:55 PM Subject: Good FTP client for MVS data set access What FTP client do you use to access MVS data sets? Do you like it? I personally use the FTP Client that is part of Micro Focus (formerly Attachmate) Reflection Desktop for IBM (Reflection Workspace). Being an application suite dedicated to mainframe access (the application is primarily a TN3270 client), the FTP Client that goes along with it seems to truly understand the idiosyncrasies of MVS and works quite well with it. On the other hand, only a limited number of users in our shop are "authorized" to use Reflection, so they cannot use its FTP client. They are stuck (currently) with an MVS hostile (IMO) application called CuteFTP. Are there any good "freestanding" FTP GUI applications that are "MVS friendly"? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
>From what I recall, I don't have any doc at home, the configuration is done >using the FEF.SFEKSAMP library for the RSED address space. the Unix part located in /usr/lpp/IBM/zexpl contains some environmental and configuration files it was not hard to setup and once the client is installed you get one view of your workstation MVS and USS files, TSO command window and a USS window to run scripts File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 1387 ISPF.conf File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 2916 process_audit.rex File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 2187 process_logon.sh File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 324 pushtoclient.properties File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 7844 rse.env File 755 2020-02-20 11:49 CPV8281 308 rsecomm.properties File 755 2020-02-20 11:50 CPV8281 294 ssl.properties Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:52:18 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Looks like some of this might be part of the "Remote System Explorer" perspective, which I don't see to have configured. Does this require z/OS configuration? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access the FMID is (HALG320) the GUI client is Aqua explorer for zos, IIRC I currently do not have the GUI client on the loaner laptop I'm using at home so I cannot be 100% sure Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:29:58 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Hey Carmen, Is that z/OS Explorer (free) or is that IBM Developer (formerly Rational Developer -- expensive) for Z that you are referring to? I know that z/OS Explorer uses FTP under the covers, but I've not seen it having a normal drag and drop style FTP GUI, or have I seen an ability to run shell scripts or TSO commands. Perhaps I'm overlooking some things. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I've always liked the reflections FTP client, I've not been able to use any other client, but I am not starting to use IBM's Z/explorer , that GUI along with an MVS address space will get you MVS dataset, USS filesystem, local fileystems access plus the ability to run shell scripts, and tso command from the GUI moving or coping datasets can be done using a drag and drop. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:09:55 PM Subject: Good FTP client for MVS data set access What FTP client do you use to access MVS data sets? Do you like it? I personally use the FTP Client that is part of Micro Focus (formerly Attachmate) Reflection Desktop for IBM (Reflection Workspace). Being an application suite dedicated to mainframe access (the application is primarily a TN3270 client), the FTP Client that goes along with it seems to truly understand the idiosyncrasies of MVS and works quite well with it. On the other hand, only a limited number of users in our shop are "authorized" to use Reflection, so they cannot use its FTP client. They are stuck (currently) with an MVS hostile (IMO) application called CuteFTP. Are there any good "freestanding" FTP GUI applications that are "MVS friendly"? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
Looks like some of this might be part of the "Remote System Explorer" perspective, which I don't see to have configured. Does this require z/OS configuration? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access the FMID is (HALG320) the GUI client is Aqua explorer for zos, IIRC I currently do not have the GUI client on the loaner laptop I'm using at home so I cannot be 100% sure Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:29:58 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Hey Carmen, Is that z/OS Explorer (free) or is that IBM Developer (formerly Rational Developer -- expensive) for Z that you are referring to? I know that z/OS Explorer uses FTP under the covers, but I've not seen it having a normal drag and drop style FTP GUI, or have I seen an ability to run shell scripts or TSO commands. Perhaps I'm overlooking some things. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I've always liked the reflections FTP client, I've not been able to use any other client, but I am not starting to use IBM's Z/explorer , that GUI along with an MVS address space will get you MVS dataset, USS filesystem, local fileystems access plus the ability to run shell scripts, and tso command from the GUI moving or coping datasets can be done using a drag and drop. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:09:55 PM Subject: Good FTP client for MVS data set access What FTP client do you use to access MVS data sets? Do you like it? I personally use the FTP Client that is part of Micro Focus (formerly Attachmate) Reflection Desktop for IBM (Reflection Workspace). Being an application suite dedicated to mainframe access (the application is primarily a TN3270 client), the FTP Client that goes along with it seems to truly understand the idiosyncrasies of MVS and works quite well with it. On the other hand, only a limited number of users in our shop are "authorized" to use Reflection, so they cannot use its FTP client. They are stuck (currently) with an MVS hostile (IMO) application called CuteFTP. Are there any good "freestanding" FTP GUI applications that are "MVS friendly"? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
Java jar command can also handle .zip files Jerry Whitteridge Delivery Manager / Mainframe Architect GTS - Safeway Account 602 527 4871 Mobile jerry.whitteri...@ibm.com IBM Services IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 06/18/2020 10:45:22 AM: > From: "Jackson, Rob" > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: 06/18/2020 10:45 AM > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > PKWare for not-free. Unzip from rocket for free. Probably others. > > First Horizon Bank > Mainframe Technical Support > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Bob Bridges > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:34 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access > > [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.] > > Wha...? I might have misunderstood you, but it sounds like you're > saying I can 1) collect all the REXX execs I want to transfer to the > mainframe, 2) ZIP them up (using PKZIP or WinZIP or 7-ZIP or > whatever), 3) IND$FILE the .zip file to the mainframe, and then 4) > ...here's where I bog down. Is there a mainframe utility that can > read .zip files? > > And if there is (I never dreamt that), maybe I actually bog down at step 3: > Do I do the transfer in text or binary? > > Are you sure you're not just having me on? > > Even if you are, it suddenly occurs to me that there's a PC-based > utility that handles XMIT files, and I think I have a copy left over > from an old project. I can bundle them all up in a XMIT file, copy > that to the host, then RECEIVE it there. > > --- > Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 > > /* Every contrition for sin is apt to encourage a not-quite- > charitable wish that other people should exhibit a similar > contrition. -Charles Williams > (1886-1945) */ > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > ] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:34 > > Why not zip them and do a single transfer of the zip file, then unzip them? > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on > behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:20 AM > > Sometimes all that's allowed, though. Some of my clients lock up > FTP, and make me use IND$FILE via whatever local 3270 emulation they use. > > This can be a major pain. Whenever I start at a new installation, > one of my first jobs is to load up a bunch of REXX tools I've > written over the years. > If I have to do them one at a time, it's a big bottleneck. Most > apps of that sort allow you to set up a list of files - but you have > to enter the list manually, one by one, providing the filename on > your PC and the target DSN on the mainframe, so it's not saving > anything (and is a one-time job, after all). Last time I had to > deal with it I reverse-engineered the format used for multi-file > transfers and had VBA create a longer list for me. I felt a fine, > self-congratulatory glow at having hacked the system, but really, it > shouldn't have been necessary. > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > ] On Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 23:39 > > Also slower than a dog, and if you are working for the security > folks, basically unaudited. > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > ] On Behalf Of David Spiegel > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:05 PM > > I have painfully experienced instances where IND$FILE (on z/VM) > mangled a Binary Upload from my MS-Windows 10 Pro workstation. > It works every time I use FTP, though (via CLI or WinSCP). > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > Confidentiality notice: > This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally > privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the > intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for > delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are > hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of > this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received > this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and > delete this e-mail message from your computer. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to l
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
The last I heard, there was an MVS build of Info-Zip. There are probably other options. I don't know of any 7z on MVS. I'm not saying that there isn't a program, just that I don't know of one. The transfer of an, e.g., zip, gz, 7z, file should always be binary. > Are you sure you're not just having me on? I meant what I said and I said what I meant A sysprog is faithful, 100%. From Horton Hears An IPL by Dr. Seus I may make puns and have a whimsical sense of humor, but I don't generally send people down blind alleys. I may make an exception for telesolicitors seeking money on behalf of bullying, cheating and lying politicians. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Wha...? I might have misunderstood you, but it sounds like you're saying I can 1) collect all the REXX execs I want to transfer to the mainframe, 2) ZIP them up (using PKZIP or WinZIP or 7-ZIP or whatever), 3) IND$FILE the .zip file to the mainframe, and then 4) ...here's where I bog down. Is there a mainframe utility that can read .zip files? And if there is (I never dreamt that), maybe I actually bog down at step 3: Do I do the transfer in text or binary? Are you sure you're not just having me on? Even if you are, it suddenly occurs to me that there's a PC-based utility that handles XMIT files, and I think I have a copy left over from an old project. I can bundle them all up in a XMIT file, copy that to the host, then RECEIVE it there. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Every contrition for sin is apt to encourage a not-quite-charitable wish that other people should exhibit a similar contrition. -Charles Williams (1886-1945) */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:34 Why not zip them and do a single transfer of the zip file, then unzip them? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:20 AM Sometimes all that's allowed, though. Some of my clients lock up FTP, and make me use IND$FILE via whatever local 3270 emulation they use. This can be a major pain. Whenever I start at a new installation, one of my first jobs is to load up a bunch of REXX tools I've written over the years. If I have to do them one at a time, it's a big bottleneck. Most apps of that sort allow you to set up a list of files - but you have to enter the list manually, one by one, providing the filename on your PC and the target DSN on the mainframe, so it's not saving anything (and is a one-time job, after all). Last time I had to deal with it I reverse-engineered the format used for multi-file transfers and had VBA create a longer list for me. I felt a fine, self-congratulatory glow at having hacked the system, but really, it shouldn't have been necessary. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 23:39 Also slower than a dog, and if you are working for the security folks, basically unaudited. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:05 PM I have painfully experienced instances where IND$FILE (on z/VM) mangled a Binary Upload from my MS-Windows 10 Pro workstation. It works every time I use FTP, though (via CLI or WinSCP). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
PKWare for not-free. Unzip from rocket for free. Probably others. First Horizon Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.] Wha...? I might have misunderstood you, but it sounds like you're saying I can 1) collect all the REXX execs I want to transfer to the mainframe, 2) ZIP them up (using PKZIP or WinZIP or 7-ZIP or whatever), 3) IND$FILE the .zip file to the mainframe, and then 4) ...here's where I bog down. Is there a mainframe utility that can read .zip files? And if there is (I never dreamt that), maybe I actually bog down at step 3: Do I do the transfer in text or binary? Are you sure you're not just having me on? Even if you are, it suddenly occurs to me that there's a PC-based utility that handles XMIT files, and I think I have a copy left over from an old project. I can bundle them all up in a XMIT file, copy that to the host, then RECEIVE it there. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Every contrition for sin is apt to encourage a not-quite-charitable wish that other people should exhibit a similar contrition. -Charles Williams (1886-1945) */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:34 Why not zip them and do a single transfer of the zip file, then unzip them? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:20 AM Sometimes all that's allowed, though. Some of my clients lock up FTP, and make me use IND$FILE via whatever local 3270 emulation they use. This can be a major pain. Whenever I start at a new installation, one of my first jobs is to load up a bunch of REXX tools I've written over the years. If I have to do them one at a time, it's a big bottleneck. Most apps of that sort allow you to set up a list of files - but you have to enter the list manually, one by one, providing the filename on your PC and the target DSN on the mainframe, so it's not saving anything (and is a one-time job, after all). Last time I had to deal with it I reverse-engineered the format used for multi-file transfers and had VBA create a longer list for me. I felt a fine, self-congratulatory glow at having hacked the system, but really, it shouldn't have been necessary. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 23:39 Also slower than a dog, and if you are working for the security folks, basically unaudited. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:05 PM I have painfully experienced instances where IND$FILE (on z/VM) mangled a Binary Upload from my MS-Windows 10 Pro workstation. It works every time I use FTP, though (via CLI or WinSCP). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Confidentiality notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this e-mail message from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
I'll have to look more at this. Thanks. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Morning Frank, this is the Free Z/explorer I have installed Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:29:58 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Hey Carmen, Is that z/OS Explorer (free) or is that IBM Developer (formerly Rational Developer -- expensive) for Z that you are referring to? I know that z/OS Explorer uses FTP under the covers, but I've not seen it having a normal drag and drop style FTP GUI, or have I seen an ability to run shell scripts or TSO commands. Perhaps I'm overlooking some things. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I've always liked the reflections FTP client, I've not been able to use any other client, but I am not starting to use IBM's Z/explorer , that GUI along with an MVS address space will get you MVS dataset, USS filesystem, local fileystems access plus the ability to run shell scripts, and tso command from the GUI moving or coping datasets can be done using a drag and drop. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:09:55 PM Subject: Good FTP client for MVS data set access What FTP client do you use to access MVS data sets? Do you like it? I personally use the FTP Client that is part of Micro Focus (formerly Attachmate) Reflection Desktop for IBM (Reflection Workspace). Being an application suite dedicated to mainframe access (the application is primarily a TN3270 client), the FTP Client that goes along with it seems to truly understand the idiosyncrasies of MVS and works quite well with it. On the other hand, only a limited number of users in our shop are "authorized" to use Reflection, so they cannot use its FTP client. They are stuck (currently) with an MVS hostile (IMO) application called CuteFTP. Are there any good "freestanding" FTP GUI applications that are "MVS friendly"? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
Bob was complaining that copying individual files was awkward when he wasn't allowed to use FTP. When he's allowed to use FTP it would be easy to write a script. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access For things that I both want to deal with on z/OS as a "package" and on Windows as individual files, I just download them twice: once as individual members in ASCII and once as a TSO XMIT file. Biggest negative I guess is that if you were to edit one member on Windows you would have to remember to upload it individually after any RECEIVE. I tend to just use the ASCII members for reference: "How did I do that before?" I don't change them. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:34:04 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Why not zip them and do a single transfer of the zip file, then unzip them? > Or, package them with ... TSO TRANSMIT OUTFILE() ... and reload them with: TSO RECEIVE INFILE() ... for the entire content of a single PDS. If you need them unpacked on Windows, CBTTAPE may have a utility for that. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
Wha...? I might have misunderstood you, but it sounds like you're saying I can 1) collect all the REXX execs I want to transfer to the mainframe, 2) ZIP them up (using PKZIP or WinZIP or 7-ZIP or whatever), 3) IND$FILE the .zip file to the mainframe, and then 4) ...here's where I bog down. Is there a mainframe utility that can read .zip files? And if there is (I never dreamt that), maybe I actually bog down at step 3: Do I do the transfer in text or binary? Are you sure you're not just having me on? Even if you are, it suddenly occurs to me that there's a PC-based utility that handles XMIT files, and I think I have a copy left over from an old project. I can bundle them all up in a XMIT file, copy that to the host, then RECEIVE it there. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Every contrition for sin is apt to encourage a not-quite-charitable wish that other people should exhibit a similar contrition. -Charles Williams (1886-1945) */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:34 Why not zip them and do a single transfer of the zip file, then unzip them? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:20 AM Sometimes all that's allowed, though. Some of my clients lock up FTP, and make me use IND$FILE via whatever local 3270 emulation they use. This can be a major pain. Whenever I start at a new installation, one of my first jobs is to load up a bunch of REXX tools I've written over the years. If I have to do them one at a time, it's a big bottleneck. Most apps of that sort allow you to set up a list of files - but you have to enter the list manually, one by one, providing the filename on your PC and the target DSN on the mainframe, so it's not saving anything (and is a one-time job, after all). Last time I had to deal with it I reverse-engineered the format used for multi-file transfers and had VBA create a longer list for me. I felt a fine, self-congratulatory glow at having hacked the system, but really, it shouldn't have been necessary. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 23:39 Also slower than a dog, and if you are working for the security folks, basically unaudited. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:05 PM I have painfully experienced instances where IND$FILE (on z/VM) mangled a Binary Upload from my MS-Windows 10 Pro workstation. It works every time I use FTP, though (via CLI or WinSCP). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Improve OMVS cp performance?
I'll see if I can carve out some time to put this together. If I do I'll probably post it here before making an official request, as people here are much smarter than me and will probably provide good feedback. Any initial thoughts from anyone here are also welcome! From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Seymour J Metz Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 6:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Improve OMVS cp performance? I think that it is worth an RFE if you can put together a compelling business case. Be sure to cover any functionality that's important to you, e.g., Program Objects? PDS(E) directory data Performance for multiple members in the same PDS(E) Record formats Character set issues Line ending conventions, e.g., CRLF, LF, NEL, NL -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Frank Swarbrick [frank.swarbr...@outlook.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 6:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Improve OMVS cp performance? Do you think its worth an RFE? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Seymour J Metz Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 4:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Improve OMVS cp performance? I think that technically it would be a piece of cake, although it would take some careful design to make it efficient and transparent. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Frank Swarbrick [frank.swarbr...@outlook.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 6:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Improve OMVS cp performance? I mean technical effort on IBM's part to implement it. It seems to me that, along with some mapping/naming rules and sensible defaults, in addition to Lionel's use case it could also be useful for FTP clients, so non-z/OS users can have "understandable" access to MVS data sets w/o having to even know that's what they are doing. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Seymour J Metz Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Improve OMVS cp performance? Technical effort or administrative effort. I suspect that it will be a lot more involved to get it approved than to actually implement it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Frank Swarbrick [frank.swarbr...@outlook.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Improve OMVS cp performance? I wonder what kind of effort it might be for z/OS to support Unix path names as aliases/links to MVS legacy data sets. Probably a lot of work, but it seems like it would be quite useful for situations such as this where the Unix application only supports Unix paths. Just a wild thought. Not opening an RFE for it or anything, unless someone can say it sounds at all reasonable. By the way, z/OS Unix is z/OS, as some like to say. I prefer to use the terms "legacy data sets" or "MVS data sets" saying "the z/OS side". It's all z/OS! 🙂 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B Dyck Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 6:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Improve OMVS cp performance? Kirk - thank you for the ideas. What I'm doing is in the ZIGI (see https://secure-web.cisco.com/16y9woZ-KKNGioIsmrX3l0VloGx62ZmJbaIDUMxNEu3X4_DmZ6nR-qUkWT-lIJna_FSvyQDSqjJHfEE6JVKyGupXrO9tZC1YO3pkDcHdunPFAORyGUqh2yJwHFSDhnEN1TtNm5g8EvDfoNzNsauNWFq4Y_5InaggC3Djt9nYuC7fv4BlPnY08D6jHmqOOticix9GjXAoL9A2DFzRItsD7RyJt7tNFtjfWZFZu3E-ycsOQlpWifUJvx4QAe6GSVyJinMUnvQ0cG7veolIcRj9KdGLoHSjf0diK1UVO0q3LRSzwcLSv9K5aNecTApJaWO0YizryqgYg3UqT4cDPbHG-sLS4b_8_CV6WTBJFipgSWaH1SnA6EsjjHognkaFW_J9WuXnPRq9b-odk_z1k3sQt4Li6oWKIpRIBAyK2b2RvwvBW2Vq0v_9ybXpgNqjKaNAI/https%3A%2F%2Fzigi.rocks) where I need to copy PDS members to/from USS so that Git can manage them. With small projects this isn't an issue but with larger projects it could take enough time for you to go to lunch ☹ Btw. I voted your RFE. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: https://secure-web.cisco.com/1M2R-g6A5gGoKDKQxyFiYYV7WXr9OdUyu6Ixa3zjpJ6CJbQmAW8FtYkxjXgLOeIDnvjGXI0lOmtzYcfyzGiCcRXXoTJiT7jNfLgtZaozhB1snDKIsuSqxrUFNz5eHiU9FuFPR_nAf45mLn3swUsAfJB77d53cb7b4d1kHMZxbp69FYPo4AbO7fSOmun_rPhg-ArrddqzghsnvKXAWOl88mKZ5TLED7NhEjdb1G3D2OauWeZmmrYS7YNoaApm9ci2dFr9POiD9mLXAhZEOO5HJImkuCdd3O0jGChFv7l7yIQnE1_ZXQ--KqkeAjWI7XPrhKZnpDex2AYCsAZ0f-4tNYyL1XagaW7uBJxH8OFBFFApall8WssfmP94dlBt_13DdsDtCrFzObRE8x5b5008xoJkZ08eOE8HskcXulsVEDlDkwgBNRyy-qwYCMUyXsKHV/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lbds
Question About Sub System Interface Function Call 08
Hello,. I'm exploring the use of Sub System Interface . I understand a resource manager is the preferred method for handling specific ending address space termination. . To be clear I'm interested in understanding SSI Function Call 08 and not a Resource Manager. . If this function call is defined by a subsystem, the only variables presented to the function routine are: and SSENASID (ASID of Ending Address Space), SSENASCB (Address Of Ending Address Space ASCB), SSENJBNM (Job Name List Pointer) of the SSEN Control Block. . It is my understanding This Function Routine would need to examine some or all of the above variables in the SSEN Control Block. The Function Routine would need to compare these variables against some previously stored values that the sub-systems function routine is interested in. . These "values of interest" would need to be possibly stored in some common storage. My question is how does SSI Function Call 08 determine where the "values of interest" are stored ? Or Where they are stored ? . The subsystem may be interested in the termination of several address spaces. You wouldn't design a unique SSI Function Call 8 routine for each address space of interest. . One technique that comes to mind is the use of a System Level Name Token Pair (NTP). The Name of the NTP could contain the specific Job Name of Interest and the tokens could contain the "values of interest" to compare to SSENASID (ASID of Ending Address Space), and/or SSENASCB (Address Of Ending Address Space ASCB). . Is there any assurance that a System Level Name Token is available when termination is started ? Is the System Level even available to this routine ? How was this validation coordinated prior to the existence of Name Token Pairs ? . Paul D'Angelo . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
For things that I both want to deal with on z/OS as a "package" and on Windows as individual files, I just download them twice: once as individual members in ASCII and once as a TSO XMIT file. Biggest negative I guess is that if you were to edit one member on Windows you would have to remember to upload it individually after any RECEIVE. I tend to just use the ASCII members for reference: "How did I do that before?" I don't change them. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:34:04 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Why not zip them and do a single transfer of the zip file, then unzip them? > Or, package them with ... TSO TRANSMIT OUTFILE() ... and reload them with: TSO RECEIVE INFILE() ... for the entire content of a single PDS. If you need them unpacked on Windows, CBTTAPE may have a utility for that. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SP,'PGM(ISPSAM) PARM(PNS)
ISPF "Menu", item 9, "Status". -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SP,'PGM(ISPSAM) PARM(PNS) Command SAREA - ISPSAM See ISPF Planning and Customization -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of IBM user Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SP,'PGM(ISPSAM) PARM(PNS) The shipped ISPF panel ISR@PRIM contains the following line which has no explanation that I can find in any manual. Does anyone know what the purpose is? SP,'PGM(ISPSAM) PARM(PNS) -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:34:04 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Why not zip them and do a single transfer of the zip file, then unzip them? > Or, package them with ... TSO TRANSMIT OUTFILE() ... and reload them with: TSO RECEIVE INFILE() ... for the entire content of a single PDS. If you need them unpacked on Windows, CBTTAPE may have a utility for that. (I keep mine in HFS and use pax.) > >From: Bob Bridges >Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:20 AM > >This can be a major pain. Whenever I start at a new installation, one of my >first jobs is to load up a bunch of REXX tools I've written over the years. >If I have to do them one at a time, it's a big bottleneck. Most apps of that >sort allow you to set up a list of files - but you have to enter the list >manually, one by one, providing the filename on your PC and the target DSN on >the mainframe, so it's not saving anything (and is a one-time job, after all). > Last time I had to deal with it I reverse-engineered the format used for >multi-file transfers and had VBA create a longer list for me. I felt a fine, >self-congratulatory glow at having hacked the system, but really, it shouldn't >have been necessary. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS Master Console Commands
The keyboard mapping is the same whether you are logged on as to a console, a TSO user, a Unix shell or something else. What 3270 client software are you using? What do you mean by "the TN3270 key"? There is a TN3270 protocol, there are TN3270 clients and servers, and there are clients with TN3270 in their names. Could you have meaant the key defined to your TN3270 cleinnt as ATTN? If yes, ATTN is not equivalent to PA1, although, TSO will treat both as attention keys. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Elaine Beal [elaine.b...@gxs.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS Master Console Commands so I don't know where my PA1 key is except in my TN3270 session keyboard what is it when I'm on the console? I can display and change the PFkeys but don't know what the PA1 key is. and as expected, the TN3270 key doesn't work on the console -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
The problem is that DOS has a different API. Calling it a DOS window may lead
someone to expect that he can run an old DOS application in it, which he can
only do in certain versions of windoze. I know that m$ wanted to kill that asd
part of killing off the 32-bit API; I don't know whether they had to back off
from that position.
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Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
I'm an old guy. (Maybe a lot of us are.) I still call it "the DOS window" in
my head, I think because I predate Win 3.1; for a long time I was a plain DOS
user (the PC DOS, not the early mainframe DOS). Win 3.1 wasn't really a
Windows operating system as it's understood now; DOS was the OS, and Win 3.1
sat on top of it as ISPF sits on top of TSO, providing a user interface.
So for quite a while I did a lot of work in "the DOS window" even after Windows
was around. Still do, from time to time, when I want a particular kind of file
listing ("dir xyz*.docx>x.txt") or file rename. Or (non-encrypted) FTP.
Yeah, I meant what I guess is now cmd.exe
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Is "DOS" the same as "cmd.exe"? The latter seems clearer.
--- On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 16:58:07 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>No flames from me but Windows "DOS" FTP has no TLS support -- is that not
>right?
>
>Not needed in every situation but required in some.
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Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
Why not zip them and do a single transfer of the zip file, then unzip them? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Sometimes all that's allowed, though. Some of my clients lock up FTP, and make me use IND$FILE via whatever local 3270 emulation they use. This can be a major pain. Whenever I start at a new installation, one of my first jobs is to load up a bunch of REXX tools I've written over the years. If I have to do them one at a time, it's a big bottleneck. Most apps of that sort allow you to set up a list of files - but you have to enter the list manually, one by one, providing the filename on your PC and the target DSN on the mainframe, so it's not saving anything (and is a one-time job, after all). Last time I had to deal with it I reverse-engineered the format used for multi-file transfers and had VBA create a longer list for me. I felt a fine, self-congratulatory glow at having hacked the system, but really, it shouldn't have been necessary. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Cats consent to love us. Dogs beg to love us. -Cathryn Michon, Grrl Genius */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 23:39 Also slower than a dog, and if you are working for the security folks, basically unaudited. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:05 PM I have painfully experienced instances where IND$FILE (on z/VM) mangled a Binary Upload from my MS-Windows 10 Pro workstation. It works every time I use FTP, though (via CLI or WinSCP). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SP,'PGM(ISPSAM) PARM(PNS)
Command SAREA - ISPSAM See ISPF Planning and Customization -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of IBM user Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SP,'PGM(ISPSAM) PARM(PNS) The shipped ISPF panel ISR@PRIM contains the following line which has no explanation that I can find in any manual. Does anyone know what the purpose is? SP,'PGM(ISPSAM) PARM(PNS) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
The CBT tape has lots of VTOC display programs. I would use Gerhard's version of IEHVTOC, but I'm sure that it's not the only one that can sort extents by address. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Brian France [b...@psu.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: dfdss equivalent to fdr map I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
The SFTP and FTPS acronyms leave my head spinning. If I have it right today, WS_FTP does FTPS but not SFTP. In any event it does the one that is ordinary vanilla FTP but with the traffic secured by TLS-based encryption. It does not do the one that is a part of the SSH suite (or something like that) AFAIK. Not sure where SHA comes in. SHA is a hash, not encryption. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of CarlosM Martinez Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Does it DO SFTP with SHA-XXX support? Or is this product just FTP? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Yes, WS_FTP has no issue with PDSEs. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
SP,'PGM(ISPSAM) PARM(PNS)
The shipped ISPF panel ISR@PRIM contains the following line which has no explanation that I can find in any manual. Does anyone know what the purpose is? SP,'PGM(ISPSAM) PARM(PNS) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IDCAMS memory leak WAS: REXX assistance
Circling back around on this topic. After a lot of back and forth with IBM, it appears that at the V2.4 OS level, IDCAMS does have a memory leak that wouldn’t necessarily be noticed in a typical batch execution. We use Netview automation in our FTP process that calls IDCAMS 10's of thousands of times a week from the Netview address space.We tested this APAR in our non-prod environment, and it does indeed appear to fix the problem. APAR Identifier .. OA59421 Last Changed 20/06/18 MEMORY LEAK WITH IDCAMS REPRO EXECUTION AT 2.4 Symptom .. AB ABEND878 Status ... CLOSED PER Severity ... 3 Date Closed . 20/06/02 Component .. 5695DF103 Duplicate of Reported Release . 240 Fixed Release 999 Component Name ACCESS METHOD S Special Notice Current Target Date ..20/09/30 Flags SCP ... Platform Status Detail: APARCLOSURE - APAR is being closed. PE PTF List: PTF List: Release 240 : UJ03097 available 20/06/18 (1000 ) Parent APAR: Child APAR list: ERROR DESCRIPTION: At the 2.4 release, every execution of REPRO may leave a block of SP252 Key0 btl user region storage. This becomes an issue when 10's of thousands of REPROs are executed from a single jobstep. This APAR will also address issues with other commands such as DCOLLECT (but not limited to) that uses similar 'AR' control blocks. In the case of DCOLLECT for instance, the orphaned storage is in SP0 Key8. In all cases, orphaned storage will contain similar 'AR' identifiers. | .. | | ..AR.. \ | <- | 8 SA...q...0 | | volser.. | Applications that execute IDCAMS internally such as NETVIEW may experience storage creep without executing 1000s of commands in a single step due to the nature of each individual command orphaning a block at a time. ADDITIONAL SYMPTOMS: IEC340I - IGC0002F, INSUFFICIENT STORAGE FOR THE CATALOG WORKAREA ABENDS106 CATKEYS: IDC2020 IDCABEND IDCREPRO IDCDCOLL LOCAL FIX: BYPASS/CIRCUMVENTION: split REPRO commands into multiple job steps PROBLEM SUMMARY: * USERS AFFECTED: * * All DFSMS users of release V24 and up affect.* * PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: * * When customers executed a large amount of REPRO commands in * * a single job step , for example more than 10's of thousands * * of REPRO commands, the abend106 occurred as results of * * insufficient storage for the catalog workarea. * * The problem occurred because the pool id was assigned* * incorrectly in getting storage to process/retrieve the data * * set information (UIOINFO macro). * * RECOMMENDATION: * PROBLEM CONCLUSION: The problem is solved by assignment of a correct storage pool id. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dave Jousma Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 7:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: REXX assistance **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** All, We have some relatively new Netview automation to process inbound FTP processing that is written in REXX, and over time we’ve seen Netview abends with 878’s, etc. IBM indicates we may have a problem below the line, specifically SP0 being exhausted. They are seeing a lot junk that looks like workpack volser’s PCW, temp dataset names, etc. It is my belief that it is the remnants of calling IDCAMS to do our FTP processing to create special dataset catalog entries amongst other stuff and cleanup is not occurring that over time causes our problems. Here is the bit of rexx code I am looking at. Look at how IDCAMS is being called in line 318. I’m not a REXX coding expert by any means. Is that the equivalent of just a standard CALL? Or like entering TSO IDCAMS at a command line in TSO? I’m wondering if there is a better way to call IDCAMS? I see references to LINK, ATTACH, LINKMVS, ATTCHMVS, LINKPGM, ATTCHPGM. I’m embarrassed
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
Does it DO SFTP with SHA-XXX support? Or is this product just FTP? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Yes, WS_FTP has no issue with PDSEs. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Finnell Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I've used WS_FTP for 20 yrs and it's got just about everything. Don't know about PDSE. Has auto for mode selection and gets it right most of the time. For PDS's does MGETs and MPUTs like a bat. Trial available at:https://www.ipswitch.com/ftp-client -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [External] Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
No that's what I get for not being clearer in what I was looking for this early in the morning. :-) On 6/18/2020 9:56 AM, Pommier, Rex wrote: In John's defense, when I saw "volume map" and "dfdss" in the same sentence, I thought like John did, that you wanted a tape volume map. That's what I get for thinking this early in the morning. :-) Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map Hi John, I am well aware of this capability, and I really do not want to appear to be overly chauvinistic, BUT, VTOC (File 112 on the CBT Tape) beats the pants off of your solution. Regards, David On 2020-06-18 09:36, John McKown wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France wrote: I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' Something like: //JS010EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', // REGION=0M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //TAPE1DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, // DISP=OLD //SYSINDD * RESTORE - DATASET( - INCL( - **- ) - ) - IDD(TAPE1) - ADMINISTRATOR - TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
Hi Brian, Please discard all of those other weak-kneed potential solutions. This one is the Cadillac! Here is a JCL sample that will not only map 1 volume, but, will also include maps of all volumes with a common prefix (think SMS Storage Group): //STEP001 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * VTOC STG0 - CAT - LIM(CAT NE C) - PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT - VOLUME DSNAME)) //STEP002 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * VTOC STG0 - CAT - /* LIM(CAT NE C) */ - PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT - VOLUME DSNAME)) //STEP003 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * VTOC STG0 - CAT - /* LIM(CAT NE C) */ - SORT(ALLOC,D) - PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT - VOLUME DSNAME)) //STEP004 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * VTOC STG0 - CAT - /* LIM(CAT NE C) */ - SORT(UNUSED,D) - PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT - VOLUME DSNAME)) STEP001 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with STG0 that are not Cataloged or are Catalog Entries with no actual Dataset STEP002 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with STG0 that are Cataloged STEP003 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with STG0 that are Cataloged. Print output by descending sort of Allocated space STEP004 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with STG0 that are Cataloged. Print output by descending sort of Unused space Please also note that you can search a volume (or range of volumes) for partial DSNAMEs, even when the partial DSNAME does not contain an HLQ. (This may take a while and should be used with caution.) VTOC runs in TSO interactively or batch. Regards, David On 2020-06-18 09:46, Brian France wrote: Howdy Dave, I will have a look at it. Thanks... On 6/18/2020 9:01 AM, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Brian, You may be interested in File 112 on the "CBT Tape" (cbttape.org) . I've been using it for more than 35 years and it has many filtering and print options. Regards, David On 2020-06-18 08:53, Brian France wrote: I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
If you have File Manager, there is a VTOC utility File Manager Display VTOC Data Set List Row 00137 of 00219 Command ===> Scroll CSR Unit*DSN '**' DevType *VOLSTATE ALL SMS SG * Volumes 1Data sets 105 VSAM 12 non-VSAM 93 VOLSER CAT500 Trks used 23191 Free 127064 Utilized 15% Data Set NameSeq Volume Begin CYL-HD End CYL-HD Tracks Dsorg Recfm Lrecl Blksize Created ** CAT500 ** * * * SYS1.APPCTP.DATA 1 CAT500 1248 0 1249 8 24 VSU 04096 2003.065 SYS1.APPCTP.INDEX 1 CAT500 1238 1 1238 11 VSU 04096 2003.065 SYS1.DFSMS.ACDS.DATA 1 CAT500 321 0 325 14 75 VSU 04096 2002.355 SYS1.DFSMS.COMMDS.DATA 1 CAT500 326 0 330 14 75 VSU 04096 2002.355 SYS1.DFSMS.SCDS.DATA 1 CAT500 1129 0 1133 14 75 VSU 04096 2002.355 SYS1.EQQ.TWS1.CKPT 1 CAT500 131 0 131 14 15 PSU 82008200 2003.223 SYS1.EQQ.TWS1.EQQAUDIT.REPORT 1 CAT500 130 0 130 14 15 PSFBA 133 13300 2003.223 SYS1.EQQ.TWS1.TRACKLOG 1 CAT500 129 0 129 14 15 PSVB32756 32760 2003.223 SYS1.IPLPARM 1 CAT500 552 0 561 14 150 POFB 806160 2004.014 SYS1.PAGEDUMP.VCAT500 1 CAT50038 0 44 1 92 PSF 40964096 2020.022 SYS1.PARMLIB 1 CAT500 733 2 749 7 246 POFB 80 27920 2004.029 SYS1.PARMLIB 2 CAT500 187 0 188 14 30 POFB 80 27920 2004.029 SYS1.PARMLIB 3 CAT500 189 0 190 14 30 POFB 80 27920 2004.029 SYS1.PARMLIB 4 CAT500 210 6 212 5 30 POFB 80 27920 2004.029 SYS1.PARMLIB 5 CAT500 215 0 216 14 30 POFB 80 27920 2004.029 SYS1.PARMLIB 6 CAT500 217 0 218 14 30 POFB 80 27920 2004.029 SYS1.PARMLIB 7 CAT500 119 12 121 11 30 POFB 80 27920 2004.029 _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** forget the PARM=PARM will get you (a mess in email) but readable in your SYSOUT 8C 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 *SYS1.NUCLEUS * STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH * * F1E2 E8E2 D9E2 E900 0177 0056 0001 * 1SYS* MVO MVCIN MVCK PKA *RSZ.* 0087 0200 C000 7FF8 0080 8800 ** LARL SU SRL *.."8* 8E00 000F E000 0A00 *...M.%-.* SRDA SVC ** * * 8C 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 *APK.SAPKMOD1 * STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH * * F1E2 E8E2 D9E2 E900 0177 0056 0001 * 1SYS* MVO MVCIN MVCK PKA *RSZ.* 0087 0200 C000 7FF8 0080 8000 ** LARL SU SSM *.."8* E000 0B0F E800 0400 ** BSM MVCIN SPM *Y...* * * Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Carmen Vitullo"
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
Yes, WS_FTP has no issue with PDSEs. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Finnell Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I've used WS_FTP for 20 yrs and it's got just about everything. Don't know about PDSE. Has auto for mode selection and gets it right most of the time. For PDS's does MGETs and MPUTs like a bat. Trial available at:https://www.ipswitch.com/ftp-client -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
DITTO or FileManager will produce such a disk volume map. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each dataset and their extents. Kees -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France wrote: > I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print > command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we > do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... > THANX!!! > I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' Something like: //JS010EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', // REGION=0M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //TAPE1DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, // DISP=OLD //SYSINDD * RESTORE - DATASET( - INCL( - **- ) - ) - IDD(TAPE1) - ADMINISTRATOR - TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) > > -- > Brian W. France > Systems Administrator (Mainframe) > Pennsylvania State University > Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC > Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 > 814-863-4739 > b...@psu.edu > > There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... > > "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." > > Carl Sagan > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- People in sleeping bags are the soft tacos of the bear world. Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
forget the PARM=PARM will get you (a mess in email) but readable in your SYSOUT 8C 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 *SYS1.NUCLEUS * STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH * * F1E2 E8E2 D9E2 E900 0177 0056 0001 * 1SYS* MVO MVCIN MVCK PKA *RSZ.* 0087 0200 C000 7FF8 0080 8800 ** LARL SU SRL *.."8* 8E00 000F E000 0A00 *...M.%-.* SRDA SVC ** * * 8C 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 *APK.SAPKMOD1 * STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH * * F1E2 E8E2 D9E2 E900 0177 0056 0001 * 1SYS* MVO MVCIN MVCK PKA *RSZ.* 0087 0200 C000 7FF8 0080 8000 ** LARL SU SSM *.."8* E000 0B0F E800 0400 ** BSM MVCIN SPM *Y...* * * Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Carmen Vitullo" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:53:04 AM Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map this may help quick and dirty JCL to dump the VTOC on a DASD volume: //CC10 EXEC PGM=AMASPZAP, // PARM=parm //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSLIB DD DSN=FORMAT4.DSCB,DISP=OLD,UNIT=3390, // VOL=SER=mypack,DCB=KEYLEN=44 //SYSIN DD * ABSDUMPT ALL Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Carmen Vitullo" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:48:14 AM Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map ZAP ? AMASPZAP I may have some jcl let me look Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Brian France" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:45:19 AM Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map That's what we're looking for and DFDSS does not seem to have the equivalent On 6/18/2020 9:42 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM wrote: > FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each > dataset and their extents. > > Kees > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > John McKown > Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France wrote: > >> I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command >> but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with >> fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! >> > I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets > are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' > > Something like: > > //JS010 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', > // REGION=0M > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //TAPE1 DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, > // DISP=OLD > //SYSIN DD * > RESTORE - > DATASET( - > INCL( - > ** - > ) - > ) - > IDD(TAPE1) - > ADMINISTRATOR - > TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) > > > > >> -- >> Brian W. France >> Systems Administrator (Mainframe) >> Pennsylvania State University >> Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC >> Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 >> 814-863-4739 >> b...@psu.edu >> >> There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... >> >> "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." >> >> Carl Sagan >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [External] Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
In John's defense, when I saw "volume map" and "dfdss" in the same sentence, I thought like John did, that you wanted a tape volume map. That's what I get for thinking this early in the morning. :-) Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map Hi John, I am well aware of this capability, and I really do not want to appear to be overly chauvinistic, BUT, VTOC (File 112 on the CBT Tape) beats the pants off of your solution. Regards, David On 2020-06-18 09:36, John McKown wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France wrote: > >>I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print >> command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we >> do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... >> THANX!!! >> > I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what > datasets are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' > > Something like: > > //JS010EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', > // REGION=0M > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //TAPE1DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, > // DISP=OLD > //SYSINDD * > RESTORE - > DATASET( - >INCL( - > **- > ) - > ) - > IDD(TAPE1) - > ADMINISTRATOR - > TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) > > > > >> -- >> Brian W. France >> Systems Administrator (Mainframe) >> Pennsylvania State University >> Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University >> Park, Pa. 16802 >> 814-863-4739 >> b...@psu.edu >> >> There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... >> >> "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." >> >> Carl Sagan >> >> - >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >> IBM-MAIN >> > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
CA-DISK has a similar function: Volume Map. The report is a little less useful (to me) so I process it with SAS to generate an FDR like report. Kees. Volume Map by CCH. Volser=SYSR02 Dsname LengthExtent CCH *VTOC* 270 1 16:00 SYSRECV.TSS.MVST.VSAMBKUP 1 2 40:10 SYSRECV.TSS.MVSX.VSAMBKUP 1 2 40:11 SYSRECV.TSS.MVSY.VSAMBKUP 1 2 40:12 SYSRECV.SAR.PROD.SARRECV1 1 40:13 SYSRECV.TSS.MVSC.VSAMBKUP 1 2 40:14 SYSRECV.TSS.MVST.VSAMBKUP 15 1 41:00 **FREE SPACE** 14 42:00 SYSRECV.ICF.VXSYS30.ALIASES.G8056V001 1 42:14 SYSRECV.ICF.VYSYS30.ALIASES.G8056V001 1 43:00 **FREE SPACE**3 43:01 SYSRECV.ICF.RCVR#C.ALIASES.G6936V00 1 1 43:04 SYSRECV.ICF.WARE#1.ALIASES.G0460V00 1 1 43:05 SYSRECV.ICF.WARE#2.ALIASES.G0831V00 1 1 43:06 SYSRECV.ICF.USER#2.ALIASES.G0014V00 5 1 43:07 SYSRECV.ICF.DEPT#1.ALIASES.G0012V00 2 1 43:12 SYSRECV.ICF.PROD#1.ALIASES.G0011V00 1 1 43:14 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: 18 June 2020 15:45 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map That's what we're looking for and DFDSS does not seem to have the equivalent On 6/18/2020 9:42 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM wrote: > FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each > dataset and their extents. > > Kees > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > John McKown > Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France wrote: > >>I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command >> but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with >> fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! >> > I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets > are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' > > Something like: > > //JS010EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', > // REGION=0M > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //TAPE1DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, > // DISP=OLD > //SYSINDD * > RESTORE - > DATASET( - >INCL( - > **- > ) - > ) - > IDD(TAPE1) - > ADMINISTRATOR - > TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) > > > > >> -- >> Brian W. France >> Systems Administrator (Mainframe) >> Pennsylvania State University >> Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC >> Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 >> 814-863-4739 >> b...@psu.edu >> >> There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... >> >> "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." >> >> Carl Sagan >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
this may help quick and dirty JCL to dump the VTOC on a DASD volume: //CC10 EXEC PGM=AMASPZAP, // PARM=parm //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSLIB DD DSN=FORMAT4.DSCB,DISP=OLD,UNIT=3390, // VOL=SER=mypack,DCB=KEYLEN=44 //SYSIN DD * ABSDUMPT ALL Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Carmen Vitullo" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:48:14 AM Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map ZAP ? AMASPZAP I may have some jcl let me look Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Brian France" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:45:19 AM Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map That's what we're looking for and DFDSS does not seem to have the equivalent On 6/18/2020 9:42 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM wrote: > FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each > dataset and their extents. > > Kees > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > John McKown > Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France wrote: > >> I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command >> but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with >> fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! >> > I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets > are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' > > Something like: > > //JS010 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', > // REGION=0M > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //TAPE1 DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, > // DISP=OLD > //SYSIN DD * > RESTORE - > DATASET( - > INCL( - > ** - > ) - > ) - > IDD(TAPE1) - > ADMINISTRATOR - > TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) > > > > >> -- >> Brian W. France >> Systems Administrator (Mainframe) >> Pennsylvania State University >> Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC >> Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 >> 814-863-4739 >> b...@psu.edu >> >> There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... >> >> "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." >> >> Carl Sagan >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
Hi John, I am well aware of this capability, and I really do not want to appear to be overly chauvinistic, BUT, VTOC (File 112 on the CBT Tape) beats the pants off of your solution. Regards, David On 2020-06-18 09:36, John McKown wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France wrote: I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' Something like: //JS010EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', // REGION=0M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //TAPE1DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, // DISP=OLD //SYSINDD * RESTORE - DATASET( - INCL( - **- ) - ) - IDD(TAPE1) - ADMINISTRATOR - TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
ZAP ? AMASPZAP I may have some jcl let me look Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Brian France" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:45:19 AM Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map That's what we're looking for and DFDSS does not seem to have the equivalent On 6/18/2020 9:42 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM wrote: > FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each > dataset and their extents. > > Kees > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > John McKown > Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France wrote: > >> I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command >> but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with >> fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! >> > I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets > are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' > > Something like: > > //JS010 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', > // REGION=0M > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //TAPE1 DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, > // DISP=OLD > //SYSIN DD * > RESTORE - > DATASET( - > INCL( - > ** - > ) - > ) - > IDD(TAPE1) - > ADMINISTRATOR - > TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) > > > > >> -- >> Brian W. France >> Systems Administrator (Mainframe) >> Pennsylvania State University >> Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC >> Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 >> 814-863-4739 >> b...@psu.edu >> >> There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... >> >> "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." >> >> Carl Sagan >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
Adrdssu defrag will produce some of the same information. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] That's what we're looking for and DFDSS does not seem to have the equivalent On 6/18/2020 9:42 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM wrote: > FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each > dataset and their extents. > > Kees > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of John McKown > Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France wrote: > >>I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print >> command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we >> do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... >> THANX!!! >> > I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what > datasets are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' > > Something like: > > //JS010EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', > // REGION=0M > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //TAPE1DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, > // DISP=OLD > //SYSINDD * > RESTORE - > DATASET( - >INCL( - > **- > ) - > ) - > IDD(TAPE1) - > ADMINISTRATOR - > TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) > > > > >> -- >> Brian W. France >> Systems Administrator (Mainframe) >> Pennsylvania State University >> Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University >> Park, Pa. 16802 >> 814-863-4739 >> b...@psu.edu >> >> There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... >> >> "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." >> >> Carl Sagan >> >> - >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >> IBM-MAIN >> > -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
Howdy Dave, I will have a look at it. Thanks... On 6/18/2020 9:01 AM, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Brian, You may be interested in File 112 on the "CBT Tape" (cbttape.org) . I've been using it for more than 35 years and it has many filtering and print options. Regards, David On 2020-06-18 08:53, Brian France wrote: I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
That's what we're looking for and DFDSS does not seem to have the equivalent On 6/18/2020 9:42 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM wrote: FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each dataset and their extents. Kees -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France wrote: I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' Something like: //JS010EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', // REGION=0M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //TAPE1DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, // DISP=OLD //SYSINDD * RESTORE - DATASET( - INCL( - **- ) - ) - IDD(TAPE1) - ADMINISTRATOR - TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each dataset and their extents. Kees -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France wrote: > I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command > but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with > fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! > I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' Something like: //JS010EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', // REGION=0M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //TAPE1DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, // DISP=OLD //SYSINDD * RESTORE - DATASET( - INCL( - **- ) - ) - IDD(TAPE1) - ADMINISTRATOR - TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) > > -- > Brian W. France > Systems Administrator (Mainframe) > Pennsylvania State University > Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC > Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 > 814-863-4739 > b...@psu.edu > > There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... > > "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." > > Carl Sagan > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- People in sleeping bags are the soft tacos of the bear world. Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France wrote: > I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command > but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with > fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! > I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' Something like: //JS010EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', // REGION=0M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //TAPE1DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, // DISP=OLD //SYSINDD * RESTORE - DATASET( - INCL( - **- ) - ) - IDD(TAPE1) - ADMINISTRATOR - TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) > > -- > Brian W. France > Systems Administrator (Mainframe) > Pennsylvania State University > Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC > Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 > 814-863-4739 > b...@psu.edu > > There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... > > "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." > > Carl Sagan > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- People in sleeping bags are the soft tacos of the bear world. Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
To be precise, MAP is not an FDR function, it is an ABR function, which also came along with COMPAKTR. When we dismissed the latter, we also lost the MAP function. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: 18 June 2020 14:54 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: dfdss equivalent to fdr map I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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>I don't know why WXTRN (weak reference) was specified, but it appears to be a >mistake.< Okay, I'll buy that! Thanks so much. David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
Hi Brian, You may be interested in File 112 on the "CBT Tape" (cbttape.org) . I've been using it for more than 35 years and it has many filtering and print options. Regards, David On 2020-06-18 08:53, Brian France wrote: I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
dfdss equivalent to fdr map
I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
the FMID is (HALG320) the GUI client is Aqua explorer for zos, IIRC I currently do not have the GUI client on the loaner laptop I'm using at home so I cannot be 100% sure Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:29:58 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Hey Carmen, Is that z/OS Explorer (free) or is that IBM Developer (formerly Rational Developer -- expensive) for Z that you are referring to? I know that z/OS Explorer uses FTP under the covers, but I've not seen it having a normal drag and drop style FTP GUI, or have I seen an ability to run shell scripts or TSO commands. Perhaps I'm overlooking some things. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I've always liked the reflections FTP client, I've not been able to use any other client, but I am not starting to use IBM's Z/explorer , that GUI along with an MVS address space will get you MVS dataset, USS filesystem, local fileystems access plus the ability to run shell scripts, and tso command from the GUI moving or coping datasets can be done using a drag and drop. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:09:55 PM Subject: Good FTP client for MVS data set access What FTP client do you use to access MVS data sets? Do you like it? I personally use the FTP Client that is part of Micro Focus (formerly Attachmate) Reflection Desktop for IBM (Reflection Workspace). Being an application suite dedicated to mainframe access (the application is primarily a TN3270 client), the FTP Client that goes along with it seems to truly understand the idiosyncrasies of MVS and works quite well with it. On the other hand, only a limited number of users in our shop are "authorized" to use Reflection, so they cannot use its FTP client. They are stuck (currently) with an MVS hostile (IMO) application called CuteFTP. Are there any good "freestanding" FTP GUI applications that are "MVS friendly"? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
Morning Frank, this is the Free Z/explorer I have installed Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:29:58 PM Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access Hey Carmen, Is that z/OS Explorer (free) or is that IBM Developer (formerly Rational Developer -- expensive) for Z that you are referring to? I know that z/OS Explorer uses FTP under the covers, but I've not seen it having a normal drag and drop style FTP GUI, or have I seen an ability to run shell scripts or TSO commands. Perhaps I'm overlooking some things. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I've always liked the reflections FTP client, I've not been able to use any other client, but I am not starting to use IBM's Z/explorer , that GUI along with an MVS address space will get you MVS dataset, USS filesystem, local fileystems access plus the ability to run shell scripts, and tso command from the GUI moving or coping datasets can be done using a drag and drop. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Frank Swarbrick" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:09:55 PM Subject: Good FTP client for MVS data set access What FTP client do you use to access MVS data sets? Do you like it? I personally use the FTP Client that is part of Micro Focus (formerly Attachmate) Reflection Desktop for IBM (Reflection Workspace). Being an application suite dedicated to mainframe access (the application is primarily a TN3270 client), the FTP Client that goes along with it seems to truly understand the idiosyncrasies of MVS and works quite well with it. On the other hand, only a limited number of users in our shop are "authorized" to use Reflection, so they cannot use its FTP client. They are stuck (currently) with an MVS hostile (IMO) application called CuteFTP. Are there any good "freestanding" FTP GUI applications that are "MVS friendly"? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Improve OMVS cp performance?
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:12 PM Frank Swarbrick < frank.swarbr...@outlook.com> wrote: > I wonder what kind of effort it might be for z/OS to support Unix path > names as aliases/links to MVS legacy data sets. Probably a lot of work, > but it seems like it would be quite useful for situations such as this > where the Unix application only supports Unix paths. > > Just a wild thought. Not opening an RFE for it or anything, unless > someone can say it sounds at all reasonable. > > By the way, z/OS Unix is z/OS, as some like to say. I prefer to use the > terms "legacy data sets" or "MVS data sets" saying "the z/OS side". It's > all z/OS! 🙂 > > Supposedly, you can use the NFS server on z/OS to export a PDS or up to some node of a DSN which can then mount into a UNIX filesystem, on the same or other system using the NFS client of that system. But I never got it to work on my very old z/OS 1.12 system. NFS might just be a bit too complicated for my old brain. -- People in sleeping bags are the soft tacos of the bear world. Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Improve OMVS cp performance?
On 18/06/2020 8:01 pm, David Crayford wrote: Interesting! The Java program probably is probably much faster because it runs on a full capacity zIIP. At my shop we run an enterprise class machine and I don't see the same results. It's very difficult to measure Java vs native when the gcp's also run full capacity. Can you share some of your SMF reports? The GCPs are full capacity, or whatever we get on the Dallas RDP system. It doesn't appear to be CPU bound at all. I think cp takes twice as long because it opens and closes the file twice for every member vs once in the Java program. One thing I am convinced of is that open and close in the unix filesystem is much faster than open and close of MVS datasets. Even more so when you factor in enqueues. I'll see if I can put together some SMF reports. -- Andrew Rowley Black Hill Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Improve OMVS cp performance?
Interesting! The Java program probably is probably much faster because
it runs on a full capacity zIIP. At my shop we run an enterprise class
machine and I don't see the same results. It's very difficult to measure
Java vs native when the gcp's also run full capacity.
Can you share some of your SMF reports?
On 2020-06-18 7:42 AM, Andrew Rowley wrote:
On 18/06/2020 12:24 am, Kirk Wolf wrote:
Lionel,
I wasn't thinking of using the "all members" form of cp - that seems
like
it should be *much* better, although it would depend on how cp works
under
the covers - evidence indicates that it just loops and does
alloc/open/close/free on each member. If only the cp authors had
better
C library support for PDSs ;-)
I'm curious - how much time did you save by preallocating the PDS?
Kirk Wolf
http://dovetail.com
Preallocating the PDS gave me about a 12x speed improvement. Here is a
Rexx shell script rxalloc to do the allocation (I couldn't figure out
a way to do bpxwdyn from the shell):
/* rexx */
parse arg dataset
call bpxwdyn "alloc da("|| dataset || ") old msg(2) rtddn(ddname)"
say ddname
and a shell script to test:
#!/bin/sh
export _BPX_SHAREAS=YES
./rxalloc SYS1.MACLIB
/bin/cp -T -U -S a=.txt "//'SYS1.MACLIB'" /home/andrewr/temp
The individual member copies with progress indicator in Zigi also
seems to have significant overhead. Approximate copy speeds on my
system were:
Zigi: 1 member/second
cp, without preallocation: 8 members/second
cp, with preallocation: 100 members/second
SMF also suggests cp for some reason opens and closes the PDS twice
for each member. I wrote a small Java program to perform the copy
using the JZOS classes, this coped about 200 members/second.
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