Re: z15 T02 HMC

2020-08-25 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 8/25/2020 6:58 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:

Anyone else having issues with their z15 HMC?  We have the rack mount
version and quite often when I go to configure a CHPID it just sits waiting
to retrieved the data.  Sometimes I get “not enough resources to perform
this task”.  It’s like there isn’t enough memory or something.


Every time we've hit this it was due to a pop-up window (hidden behind a 
buncha stuff) that was connecting to the Support Element and asking for 
confirmation to use the self-signed cert.


You need to find that window on your desktop, click "Advanced" (at least 
in Firefox), and accept the self-signed cert.


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Re: Is there a tool to monitor JES2 Input Queue wait time? [EXTERNAL]

2020-08-25 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Andy wrote:




*Isn't the goal here to identify jobs that have been submitted, but not
started? Long-running jobs don't fit that criteria, having already started
- or have I missed the point?Andy Stylesz/Series System Programmer*

*As I said, the utility could be modified to check arrival on the input
queue.*

*If it's an SDSF shop, RGEN will provide a useful skeleton from the I
(Input) panel.*

*The code snippet goes along the lines of:*

*Do ix=1 to JNAME.0*
*/* if JNAME.ix = IPARM & QUEUE.ix = "EXECUTION" & ACTSYS.ix <> "", */ *
* if JNAME.ix = IPARM ,*
* then Do  *
*/* Issue the ? (JDS) action against the */*
*/* row to list the data sets in the job. */   *
*Address SDSF "ISFACT ST TOKEN('"TOKEN.ix"') PARM(NP ?)" ,*

*So substitute EXECUTION for whatever (INPUT?).*

*I don't have time to spend on this right now. However, I just submit a job
that runs all the time and it loops around every n minutes and checks
what's in the system.*

*If a job is INPUT, not EXECUTION, just compare the time it hit the queue
with current time and issue your WTO for automation to act on.*

*JESMSGLG is all you need to look at, for example:*

*23.49.05 JOB05080  TUESDAY,   25 AUG 2020 *
*23.49.05 JOB05080  IRR010I  USERID BDB204   IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB.  *

*For a job that is running/already ran, JESMSGLG has more information:*

*02.20.05 JOB05074  $HASP373 BDB204D  STARTED - INIT 1- CLASS A *




On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:11 AM R.S.  wrote:

> W dniu 25.08.2020 o 23:00, Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) pisze:
> > Classification: Public
> >
> > Isn't the goal here to identify jobs that have been submitted, but not
> started? Long-running jobs don't fit that criteria, having already started
> - or have I missed the point?
>
> Good point.
> IMHO you either use batch scheduler with all the facilities like
> late_sub, etc. or you just submit jobs into the queue and assign some
> INITs to it. Obviously the proper method is batch scheduler, but it is
> not free. Unless you already have scheduler.
>
> BTW: Long time ago I was a consultant in some shop and I was asked to
> clarify why job XYZ was running a lot of time, much longer than
> expected. First view in the output and few hours difference between "job
> submitted" and "job started".
> After that I was teaching JCL, teaching folks from that company - and I
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Re: z15 T02 HMC

2020-08-25 Thread Roger Lowe
On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 20:58:01 -0500, Michael Babcock  
wrote:

>Anyone else having issues with their z15 HMC?  We have the rack mount
>version and quite often when I go to configure a CHPID it just sits waiting
>to retrieved the data.  Sometimes I get “not enough resources to perform
>this task”.  It’s like there isn’t enough memory or something.
>-- 
We run the virtual HMC and don't  have the issue you are seeing. We are running 
HMC Version 2.15.0 (Driver 41 Bundle H14). Perhaps you may need to do a code 
upgrade?

Roger

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z15 T02 HMC

2020-08-25 Thread Michael Babcock
Anyone else having issues with their z15 HMC?  We have the rack mount
version and quite often when I go to configure a CHPID it just sits waiting
to retrieved the data.  Sometimes I get “not enough resources to perform
this task”.  It’s like there isn’t enough memory or something.
-- 
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z/OS Systems Programmer, Lead

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Re: Can System REXX run Sub=MSTR ??

2020-08-25 Thread Harris Morgenstern
Just to summarize:

MODIFY AXR,SR STOPTSO  - Prevents TSO=YES execs from running and 
eliminates the AXRxx address spaces
STOP AXR -  Stops all System REXX activity i.e. the AXR address space + 
AXRxx address spaces all terminate

Both of these commands wait for in-progress work to complete.   FORCE 
AXR,ARM can be used to 
terminate System REXX, but it's not recommended since asynchronously 
abending tasks in 
the AXR or AXRxx address spaces may produce unexpected results. 


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Re: Is there a tool to monitor JES2 Input Queue wait time? [EXTERNAL]

2020-08-25 Thread R.S.

W dniu 25.08.2020 o 23:00, Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) pisze:

Classification: Public

Isn't the goal here to identify jobs that have been submitted, but not started? 
Long-running jobs don't fit that criteria, having already started - or have I 
missed the point?


Good point.
IMHO you either use batch scheduler with all the facilities like 
late_sub, etc. or you just submit jobs into the queue and assign some 
INITs to it. Obviously the proper method is batch scheduler, but it is 
not free. Unless you already have scheduler.


BTW: Long time ago I was a consultant in some shop and I was asked to 
clarify why job XYZ was running a lot of time, much longer than 
expected. First view in the output and few hours difference between "job 
submitted" and "job started".
After that I was teaching JCL, teaching folks from that company - and I 
remebered to clarify dates in the output.


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Re: Is there a tool to monitor JES2 Input Queue wait time? [EXTERNAL]

2020-08-25 Thread Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
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Isn't the goal here to identify jobs that have been submitted, but not started? 
Long-running jobs don't fit that criteria, having already started - or have I 
missed the point?

Andy Styles
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I wrote a REXX monitor that runs every 15 minutes and issues WTO for certain 
jobs that have been running too long. The code could be changed to check input 
time and start time. A screen scraper could do this too. Tom Brennnans Vista 
emulator has a scripting feature that will pick up console events, just stack 
the input time and start time in a file.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 04:46 R.S.  wrote:

> W dniu 25.08.2020 o 16:52, Feller, Paul pisze:
> > Lizette, if you have some type of software like OPS/MVS you could 
> > look
> at running a script from time to time that executes the JES2 command 
> $DJQ,DELAY=YES,DELAY and then look at the output from the command.
>
> Isn't it as obsolete as dinosaurs?
> I mean there is small chance OPS is still in use.
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Re: Mainframe Multi factor authentication possibilities

2020-08-25 Thread Mike Schwab
Yes, you have the chance of a breakin.  But they have to have the user
id and password before the confirmation code goes out.  And when the
cell phone number is transferred to a replacement phone or when the
employee supplies the new cell phone number the vulnerability ends.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 1:32 PM Paul Gilmartin
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> On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 13:08:17 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
>
> >SMTP.  Email to phonenum...@carrier.com
> >https://www.wikihow.com/Email-to-a-Cell-Phone
> >
> It may not be so simple.  The link above takes me ultimately
> to a service selling background information (for a previous
> owner of my phone number.)
>
> But a while ago, I discovered mine by sending an IM to my
> email address and scraping the From: address.
>
> But this seems not to work for the popular Comcast.
>
> What if someone steals your phone?
>
> >On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:42 AM Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:50:34 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
> >>
> >> >Text a six digit number to a list of cell phone numbers?  Add the
> >> >number to the cell phone number so subtracting the six digit number
> >> >gives you the last 6 digits of the person's cell phone number?
> >> >
> >> Is there an app for that?
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Re: Is there a tool to monitor JES2 Input Queue wait time? [EXTERNAL]

2020-08-25 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I wrote a REXX monitor that runs every 15 minutes and issues WTO for
certain jobs that have been running too long. The code could be changed to
check input time and start time. A screen scraper could do this too. Tom
Brennnans Vista emulator has a scripting feature that will pick up console
events, just stack the input time and start time in a file.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 04:46 R.S.  wrote:

> W dniu 25.08.2020 o 16:52, Feller, Paul pisze:
> > Lizette, if you have some type of software like OPS/MVS you could look
> at running a script from time to time that executes the JES2 command
> $DJQ,DELAY=YES,DELAY and then look at the output from the command.
>
> Isn't it as obsolete as dinosaurs?
> I mean there is small chance OPS is still in use.
>
> --
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> Lodz, Poland
>
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Re: Is there a tool to monitor JES2 Input Queue wait time?

2020-08-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
We are running WLM Inits, we ran into OA54188 where they were not working as 
well

Now I need to find a real time way to monitor the JES2 Input queues.

Lizette


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No real-time tools I can think of unless you want to write an exit.
Best suggestion I can offer is WLM managed initiators. 

With WLM managed initiators, queue time becomes part of the velocity 
calculation when determining of batch is meeting goals.
However, I do not believe the control is fine enough to replace JES managed 
initiators for production work.

A mixture of JES managed and WLM managed has worked best in my experience.

Note: WLM managed initiators turn workload selection about 90 degrees from what 
you are used to. You will need to rethink many things,

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Would that be real time or after the fact?  The scheduler software I have can 
do after the fact.

I am looking for real time monitoring


Lizette


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SMF/RYO
SMF/MXG
Several others. Check the CBTTAPE.

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Just curious



We had a few jobs that took up to 30 minutes before going from input queue to 
actually running.



Does anyone know of an easy (FREE) way to monitor JES2 Input times?



I know sometimes it is due to resource restrictions and WLM will not allow 
anything else to run.



But any way to see it in real time? (Assume Lights Out Environment - no people 
watching)







Thanks



Lizette




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Re: Mainframe Multi factor authentication possibilities

2020-08-25 Thread Christian Svensson
Hi,

Now, I have not written any RACF exits ever, but a project[1] I am
part of has just been open-sourced that solves generating one-time
codes from a central server.
The way it works on Linux is that when you enter your username in the
prompt instead of the classical "Password: " prompt you get a URL.
You go to that URL and it does whatever it needs to do to check if you
have access to log in as the user you are trying to log in as, on the
machine that you are trying to use.

The URL would look something like this:
https://auth.mainframe.corp/v1/AYUg8AmJMKdUdIt93LQ-91oNvzoNJjga9OukqY6qm05q0PU=/lpar:ZVMLPAR1/tso/IBMUSER/
The thing you get back can be configured to be whatever length you
want, we use 10 characters - but for a mainframe shop that would be
shorter I guess.

If the auth.mainframe.corp server thinks everything is OK you get this
code back and you can paste it in as the login password.
That way you can implement 2FA however you want (list of smart-cards,
list of finger-prints, etc) and apply custom logic to whom to allow
and when.

The protocol requires no communication between the system being logged
in and the authentication server, which hopefully would make a
security review easier.

Right now we only have it for Linux but making it for z/OS would
definitely be a cool project.

[1] https://github.com/google/glome/blob/master/docs/glome-login.md

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 8:32 PM Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
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> On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 13:08:17 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
>
> >SMTP.  Email to phonenum...@carrier.com
> >https://www.wikihow.com/Email-to-a-Cell-Phone
> >
> It may not be so simple.  The link above takes me ultimately
> to a service selling background information (for a previous
> owner of my phone number.)
>
> But a while ago, I discovered mine by sending an IM to my
> email address and scraping the From: address.
>
> But this seems not to work for the popular Comcast.
>
> What if someone steals your phone?
>
> >On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:42 AM Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:50:34 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
> >>
> >> >Text a six digit number to a list of cell phone numbers?  Add the
> >> >number to the cell phone number so subtracting the six digit number
> >> >gives you the last 6 digits of the person's cell phone number?
> >> >
> >> Is there an app for that?
>
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Re: Is there a tool to monitor JES2 Input Queue wait time? [EXTERNAL]

2020-08-25 Thread R.S.

W dniu 25.08.2020 o 16:52, Feller, Paul pisze:

Lizette, if you have some type of software like OPS/MVS you could look at 
running a script from time to time that executes the JES2 command 
$DJQ,DELAY=YES,DELAY and then look at the output from the command.


Isn't it as obsolete as dinosaurs?
I mean there is small chance OPS is still in use.

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Re: Mainframe Multi factor authentication possibilities

2020-08-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 13:08:17 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:

>SMTP.  Email to phonenum...@carrier.com
>https://www.wikihow.com/Email-to-a-Cell-Phone
>
It may not be so simple.  The link above takes me ultimately
to a service selling background information (for a previous
owner of my phone number.)

But a while ago, I discovered mine by sending an IM to my
email address and scraping the From: address.

But this seems not to work for the popular Comcast.

What if someone steals your phone?

>On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:42 AM Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:50:34 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
>>
>> >Text a six digit number to a list of cell phone numbers?  Add the
>> >number to the cell phone number so subtracting the six digit number
>> >gives you the last 6 digits of the person's cell phone number?
>> >
>> Is there an app for that?

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Re: Mainframe Multi factor authentication possibilities

2020-08-25 Thread Mike Schwab
SMTP.  Email to phonenum...@carrier.com
https://www.wikihow.com/Email-to-a-Cell-Phone

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:42 AM Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:50:34 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
>
> >Text a six digit number to a list of cell phone numbers?  Add the
> >number to the cell phone number so subtracting the six digit number
> >gives you the last 6 digits of the person's cell phone number?
> >
> Is there an app for that?
>
> -- gil
>
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Re: Is there a tool to monitor JES2 Input Queue wait time? [EXTERNAL]

2020-08-25 Thread Barry Merrill
MXG provides two Input Queue Time analysis programs in members ASUMJOBS and
ANALBATQ.

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[EXTERNAL]

Lizette, if you have some type of software like OPS/MVS you could look at
running a script from time to time that executes the JES2 command
$DJQ,DELAY=YES,DELAY and then look at the output from the command.  Not
"real" time but next to it.

This is from a little test I did.

$DJQ,DELAY=YES,DELAY   
$HASP890 JOB(UDT014E6)  DELAY=(HOLD)   
$HASP890 JOB(UDT014E6)  DELAY=(HOLD,SCHENV)



Thanks.. 
  
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Just curious

 

We had a few jobs that took up to 30 minutes before going from input queue
to actually running.

 

Does anyone know of an easy (FREE) way to monitor JES2 Input times?

 

I know sometimes it is due to resource restrictions and WLM will not allow
anything else to run.

 

But any way to see it in real time? (Assume Lights Out Environment - no
people watching)

 

 

 

Thanks 

 

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Re: Mainframe Multi factor authentication possibilities

2020-08-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 11:01:40 -0500, Joe Monk wrote:

>I dont understand how this is supposed to work. 2FA is for ONE user. If you
>have many users using one common userid, the system should invalidate any
>other user logged on with that. same userid and a different 2FA.
>
Require each user to obtain a certificate from a recognized CA?
Share the public key with the mainframe.  But than would verify
not the user but more probably a device.  What if it's stolen.

Facial recognition?

Hmmm.  My Colorado driver's license has a couple bar codes on
the back and an image transparency (Real ID?)  What if it's
stolen?

ReCaptcha?

>On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:42 AM Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:50:34 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
>>
>> >Text a six digit number to a list of cell phone numbers?  Add the
>> >number to the cell phone number so subtracting the six digit number
>> >gives you the last 6 digits of the person's cell phone number?
>> >
>> Is there an app for that?

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Re: Mainframe Multi factor authentication possibilities

2020-08-25 Thread Jake Anderson
Initial layer to have a biometric after it validates the Mainframe logon
should be allowed

On Tue, 25 Aug, 2020, 8:02 pm Joe Monk,  wrote:

> I dont understand how this is supposed to work. 2FA is for ONE user. If you
> have many users using one common userid, the system should invalidate any
> other user logged on with that. same userid and a different 2FA.
>
> Joe
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:42 AM Paul Gilmartin <
> 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:50:34 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
> >
> > >Text a six digit number to a list of cell phone numbers?  Add the
> > >number to the cell phone number so subtracting the six digit number
> > >gives you the last 6 digits of the person's cell phone number?
> > >
> > Is there an app for that?
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Re: Mainframe Multi factor authentication possibilities

2020-08-25 Thread Joe Monk
I dont understand how this is supposed to work. 2FA is for ONE user. If you
have many users using one common userid, the system should invalidate any
other user logged on with that. same userid and a different 2FA.

Joe

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:42 AM Paul Gilmartin <
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> On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:50:34 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
>
> >Text a six digit number to a list of cell phone numbers?  Add the
> >number to the cell phone number so subtracting the six digit number
> >gives you the last 6 digits of the person's cell phone number?
> >
> Is there an app for that?
>
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Re: Mainframe Multi factor authentication possibilities

2020-08-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:50:34 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:

>Text a six digit number to a list of cell phone numbers?  Add the
>number to the cell phone number so subtracting the six digit number
>gives you the last 6 digits of the person's cell phone number?
> 
Is there an app for that?

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Re: Is there a tool to monitor JES2 Input Queue wait time? [EXTERNAL]

2020-08-25 Thread Feller, Paul
Lizette, if you have some type of software like OPS/MVS you could look at 
running a script from time to time that executes the JES2 command 
$DJQ,DELAY=YES,DELAY and then look at the output from the command.  Not "real" 
time but next to it.

This is from a little test I did.

$DJQ,DELAY=YES,DELAY   
$HASP890 JOB(UDT014E6)  DELAY=(HOLD)   
$HASP890 JOB(UDT014E6)  DELAY=(HOLD,SCHENV)



Thanks.. 
  
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Just curious

 

We had a few jobs that took up to 30 minutes before going from input queue to 
actually running.

 

Does anyone know of an easy (FREE) way to monitor JES2 Input times?

 

I know sometimes it is due to resource restrictions and WLM will not allow 
anything else to run.

 

But any way to see it in real time? (Assume Lights Out Environment - no people 
watching)

 

 

 

Thanks 

 

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Re: Mainframe Multi factor authentication possibilities

2020-08-25 Thread Mike Schwab
Text a six digit number to a list of cell phone numbers?  Add the
number to the cell phone number so subtracting the six digit number
gives you the last 6 digits of the person's cell phone number?

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 2:16 AM Jake Anderson  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Cross posted.
>
> We are planning to implement 2FA for mainframe logons. Here we have a
> challenge where we use a common mainframe ID and would like to know if
> there is a way to enforce 2FA which can identify a person based on
> fingerprint or any other mechanism which can identify a person even if he
> uses common mainframe ID.
>
> Could someone share your experience if you have a similar set up in your
> datacenter ?
>
> z/OS 2.2
>
> Jake
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Re: Is there a tool to monitor JES2 Input Queue wait time?

2020-08-25 Thread Allan Staller
No real-time tools I can think of unless you want to write an exit.
Best suggestion I can offer is WLM managed initiators. 

With WLM managed initiators, queue time becomes part of the velocity 
calculation when determining of batch is meeting goals.
However, I do not believe the control is fine enough to replace JES managed 
initiators for production work.

A mixture of JES managed and WLM managed has worked best in my experience.

Note: WLM managed initiators turn workload selection about 90 degrees from what 
you are used to. You will need to rethink many things,

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Would that be real time or after the fact?  The scheduler software I have can 
do after the fact.

I am looking for real time monitoring


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We had a few jobs that took up to 30 minutes before going from input queue to 
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Does anyone know of an easy (FREE) way to monitor JES2 Input times?



I know sometimes it is due to resource restrictions and WLM will not allow 
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But any way to see it in real time? (Assume Lights Out Environment - no people 
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Re: Can System REXX run Sub=MSTR ??

2020-08-25 Thread R.S.

Amen to that.
However I understood Steve's word as a sarcasm. Maybe I was wrong.
Obviously I don't like CANCEL, FORCE ARM and FORCE in normal procedures.

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W dniu 25.08.2020 o 04:10, Joel C. Ewing pisze:

It's part of that generic MVS principle from at least the 1970's, if not
earlier, that things that can be shut down cleanly before an IPL should
be, to minimize partially completed transactions, partial updates to a
collection of related data sets, database updates that haven't yet
reached a commit point, records written to output data sets but not yet
flushed from buffers to DASD, subsystems left in a state which makes
restart more difficult, etc, etc.

When you have no idea what some system address space is doing under the
covers, you have no way to know whether it has potential to be a problem
or not, unless lack of exposure is explicitly stated somewhere, or it is
just impossible to terminate.   And obviously you don't want system
address spaces that you can't easily terminate if they could in turn
prevent the normal shutdown of JES or some other system address space
that benefits from a controlled shutdown.

Yes, a forced IPL or "pulling the plug" with things still running
certainly resets all running address spaces,  but the potential for
increased DB2 recovery time and potential need to recover damaged or
inconsistent tables and data sets, and the possibility of JES job output
on DASD not even accurately reflecting what batch job step was running
at the point of interruption when restarting rudely interrupted jobs
makes that a less-than-optimum approach that can potentially delay by
many minutes the availability of a system for production usage after an
IPL.   At a minimum you want to be able to quiesce any address spaces
that are processing end-user transactions or jobs, or processing service
requests in support of that workload (and the number of z/OS address
spaces in that latter category seems to be continually growing).

Every SysProg I've known always believed you minimized your pain by
always doing a controlled shutdown of as much as possible before
"pulling the plug", but I suspect most have also encountered occasional
cases where some software, hardware, or environmental issue didn't offer
much of a choice.
     Joel C Ewing

On 8/24/20 11:05 AM, Steve Smith wrote:

I'm not clear on why you all would care about shutting them down for an
IPL.  IPL is 100% effective in removing unwanted processes.

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Re: Is there a tool to monitor JES2 Input Queue wait time?

2020-08-25 Thread Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
Classification: Limited

Which scheduler (I assume you mean batch scheduler)?  

TWS (IWS, zWS, and whatever other names the marketing department dream up in 
the pub) monitors jobs that haven't started after it has submitted them - and 
writes messages out for 'LONG TIME ON INPUT QUEUE'; I don't know about other 
schedulers. 

Might be a setting in your particular one that can do it?

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z/Series System Programmer

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Would that be real time or after the fact?  The scheduler software I have can 
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I am looking for real time monitoring
 

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Subject: Is there a tool to monitor JES2 Input Queue wait time?

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Just curious



We had a few jobs that took up to 30 minutes before going from input queue to 
actually running.



Does anyone know of an easy (FREE) way to monitor JES2 Input times?



I know sometimes it is due to resource restrictions and WLM will not allow 
anything else to run.



But any way to see it in real time? (Assume Lights Out Environment - no people 
watching)







Thanks



Lizette




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Mainframe Multi factor authentication possibilities

2020-08-25 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello,

Cross posted.

We are planning to implement 2FA for mainframe logons. Here we have a
challenge where we use a common mainframe ID and would like to know if
there is a way to enforce 2FA which can identify a person based on
fingerprint or any other mechanism which can identify a person even if he
uses common mainframe ID.

Could someone share your experience if you have a similar set up in your
datacenter ?

z/OS 2.2

Jake

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