Re: SMF to capture user login history

2020-10-24 Thread R.S.

The answer is IRRADU00 report - standard (free) RACF tool.
Then you can write yoour own report.

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Re: SMF to capture user login history

2020-10-24 Thread Gibney, Dave
I believe there are SMF processing examples in the ICETOOL samples

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> Which SMF Records are you going to use?
> 
> I would say in general without a 3rd part product (like SAS) it will be a
> challenge to parse through MOST SMF records without something that can
> handle the record section offsets
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> Lizette
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> Hello
> 
> Cross posted.
> 
> We have a SMF data for some years and I would like to fetch a user's logon
> history like when he was logged with all time intervals.
> 
> Is there a sample JCL or process you are following without having to use any
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> 
> Could someone please share any sample if you have and willing to share ?
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Re: SMF to capture user login history

2020-10-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
Which SMF Records are you going to use?

I would say in general without a 3rd part product (like SAS) it will be a 
challenge to parse through MOST SMF records without something that can handle 
the record section offsets

Lizette


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Hello

Cross posted.

We have a SMF data for some years and I would like to fetch a user's logon 
history like when he was logged with all time intervals.

Is there a sample JCL or process you are following without having to use any 
third party product to process.

Could someone please share any sample if you have and willing to share ?

Jake

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Re: SMF to capture user login history

2020-10-24 Thread Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
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Certainly not my area of expertise, but looks like maybe SMF type 30?

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieag200/rec30.htm

This may help as well:

https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/common-data-provider-tso-logon-successful-event-missing-racf-records-x80

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Unfortunately I can't unfold in detail about our management requirements here 
but technically looking for some pointers.

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>> > We have a SMF data for some years and I would like to fetch a 
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>> >
>> > Is there a sample JCL or process you are following without having 
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Re: SMF to capture user login history

2020-10-24 Thread Jake Anderson
Unfortunately I can't unfold in detail about our management requirements
here but technically looking for some pointers.

On Sun, 25 Oct, 2020, 10:14 am Jake Anderson, 
wrote:

> KB,
>
> Not a stink and it just a requirement.
>
> On Sun, 25 Oct, 2020, 10:11 am kekronbekron, <
> 02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
>> I hope no one encourages this kind of snooping on the list.
>> Stinks of an attempt to police working hours.
>>
>> - KB
>>
>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 11:37 AM, Jake Anderson <
>> justmainfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello
>> >
>> > Cross posted.
>> >
>> > We have a SMF data for some years and I would like to fetch a user's
>> logon
>> > history like when he was logged with all time intervals.
>> >
>> > Is there a sample JCL or process you are following without having to use
>> > any third party product to process.
>> >
>> > Could someone please share any sample if you have and willing to share ?
>> >
>> > Jake
>> >
>> >
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Re: SMF to capture user login history

2020-10-24 Thread Jake Anderson
KB,

Not a stink and it just a requirement.

On Sun, 25 Oct, 2020, 10:11 am kekronbekron, <
02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> I hope no one encourages this kind of snooping on the list.
> Stinks of an attempt to police working hours.
>
> - KB
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 11:37 AM, Jake Anderson <
> justmainfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > Cross posted.
> >
> > We have a SMF data for some years and I would like to fetch a user's
> logon
> > history like when he was logged with all time intervals.
> >
> > Is there a sample JCL or process you are following without having to use
> > any third party product to process.
> >
> > Could someone please share any sample if you have and willing to share ?
> >
> > Jake
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Re: SMF to capture user login history

2020-10-24 Thread kekronbekron
I hope no one encourages this kind of snooping on the list.
Stinks of an attempt to police working hours.

- KB

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On Sunday, October 25, 2020 11:37 AM, Jake Anderson  
wrote:

> Hello
>
> Cross posted.
>
> We have a SMF data for some years and I would like to fetch a user's logon
> history like when he was logged with all time intervals.
>
> Is there a sample JCL or process you are following without having to use
> any third party product to process.
>
> Could someone please share any sample if you have and willing to share ?
>
> Jake
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How can you change TCAS defaults using the TSOKEYxx PARMLIB member?

2020-10-24 Thread Sam Golob

Dear Folks,

    Thanks to Joe Monk for getting me the correct information.  First 
of all, the parameters, which have to be in "=" format, and not TSO 
format with parentheses, must PRECEDE the comments, and all of them, 
except the last one, have to be followed by a comma.  For example:


USERMAX=39,

RECONLIM=1

which is written BEFORE the comments.

    ALSO, I bounced the TSO address space.

The resulting SHOWTCAS display is:  (CBT File 731 - www.cbttape.org - 
Updates page)


  SHOWTCAS - TERMINAL CONTROL ADDRESS SPACE - FIELDS
      --- --- - --
  Display of Settings and Addresses having
   to do with the TSOKEYxx PARMLIB member
   at the beginning of the IKTTCAST macro
 8-CHARACTER USERID SUPPORT IS: ON
   TCAS ADDRESS: 00C2EDC8

addr  field    value explanation
  -    - ---
  +0  TCASID   TCAS Control block identifier
  +4  TCASUSEC 0001 Number of active users - HEX
   1    Number of active users - DEC
  +6  TCASUMAX 0027 TSO Maxusers number - HEX
  39    TSO Maxusers number - DEC
  +8  TCASACBP  ACB Password
 +10  TCASRCON 0001 Reconnect time in minutes - HEX
   1    Reconnect time in minutes - DEC
 +12  TCASCLSZ 0084 Buffer Size - HEX
 132    Buffer Size - DEC
 +14  TCASHBUF BB80 High Buffer Threshold - HEX
   48000    High Buffer Threshold - DEC
 +18  TCASLBUF 5DC0 Low Buffer Threshold - HEX
   24000    Low Buffer Threshold - DEC
 +1C  TCASCRSZ 01E0 Screen Size - HEX
 480    Screen Size - DEC
 +1E  TCASCHNL 04   Maximum Chain Length - HEX
   4    Maximum Chain Length - DEC
 +1F  TCASENGT 00   ENGTRANS Value 0-Base,1-Ext,2-None

 Thanks very much to all of you for your interest, and thanks, Joe 
Monk, for the correct reply.


 All the best of everything to all of you.

Sincerely, Sam

P.S.  The SHOWTCAS command has an ALL parameter, which will display the 
entire real contents (mostly addresses) in the IKTTCAST macro, with all 
the correct values for your LPAR, below the settings which are displayed 
here.  I figured that most people don't want to see the whole thing.  
They are just interested in the current settings.  So ALL is not the 
default.




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SMF to capture user login history

2020-10-24 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello

Cross posted.

We have a SMF data for some years and I would like to fetch a user's logon
history like when he was logged with all time intervals.

Is there a sample JCL or process you are following without having to use
any third party product to process.

Could someone please share any sample if you have and willing to share ?

Jake

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Re: How can you change TCAS defaults using the TSOKEYxx PARMLIB member?

2020-10-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
Please post your TSO proc and the DSN and member of the TSOKEYxx you edited.


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Dear Folks,

 Clark understood my question correctly.  (Hi Clark--haven't heard
from you in a while.)

 The PARMLIB command deals with the IKJTSOxx member of PARMLIB.  I'm
interested in the TSOKEYxx member of PARMLIB which deals with TCAS.

 There doesn't seem to be any member in SYS1.SAMPLIB that deals with
the correct syntax to code a non-default TSOKEYxx member.

 I did bounce TSO.  I even IPL-ed several times.  I would like some
help. Thanks

 All the best of everything to all of you.

Sincerely,Sam


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Re: emptying a PDS: was RE: [IBM-MAIN] getting XCFAS down

2020-10-24 Thread R.S.
AFAIK, the abend for directory exhaustion is NOT x37. It is rather B14 
or so.
BTW: yes, I know there are several x37 abends. That's why I used 
lowercase 'x'.
BTW2: I even experienced F37 abend in the past. It was related to huge 
(at the time) Jaguar J1A tapes and good compression and ...problems in 
RMM. AFAIK I put over 6TB (terabytes) of uncompressed data on 300GB cart.


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W dniu 24.10.2020 o 16:55, Joel C. Ewing pisze:

I'm not assuming any abend code outside the x37 family, just asking
which one.

x37 is not an actual abend code but a generic reference to family of
abend codes  (A37, B37, D37, E37) relating to various out-of-space
conditions.  For a PDS, you get a distinct E37 abend rather than a B37
or D37 when a space failure occurs when attempting to add a directory
entry.

Yes, the underlying root cause for a space failure in the directory is
different for a PDS vs a PDSE, and the problem resolution for a PDSE is
the same whether the no-free-block failure is for a directory-block or a
data-block; yet there are legitimate arguments for preserving an abend
distinction between the case where no member  could be created vs the
possible creation of a member with incomplete data.   The latter case is
potentially more dangerous, as an incomplete member is more likely to be
successfully read by a subsequent process and produce additional
incorrect results that must be resolved.  Or does PDSE logic design
somehow preclude reading a PDSE member when an out-of-space condition
has prevented a proper close and writing of all data blocks during the
member creation?
     JC Ewing

On 10/23/20 9:03 AM, R.S. wrote:

Why do you assume there is/should be other abend than x37?
Any request for new place in the dataset could end with such an abend.





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Re: How can you change TCAS defaults using the TSOKEYxx PARMLIB member?

2020-10-24 Thread R.S.
I just read the manual and didn't found any reference to dynamic 
activation. Neither TSO PARMLIB nor other command.
So, it seems one has to bounce TSO address space in order to change 
TSOKEYxx parameters.


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W dniu 25.10.2020 o 02:31, Joe Monk pisze:

Sam ...

Page 761?

https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zOSV2R3SA231380/$file/ieae200_v2r3.pdf

Joe

On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 8:07 PM Sam Golob  wrote:


Dear Folks,

  Clark understood my question correctly.  (Hi Clark--haven't heard
from you in a while.)

  The PARMLIB command deals with the IKJTSOxx member of PARMLIB.  I'm
interested in the TSOKEYxx member of PARMLIB which deals with TCAS.

  There doesn't seem to be any member in SYS1.SAMPLIB that deals with
the correct syntax to code a non-default TSOKEYxx member.

  I did bounce TSO.  I even IPL-ed several times.  I would like some
help. Thanks

  All the best of everything to all of you.

Sincerely,Sam





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Re: How can you change TCAS defaults using the TSOKEYxx PARMLIB member?

2020-10-24 Thread R.S.

Hint:
TSO member in PARMLIB usually has reference to WRONG TSOKEYxx.
That means the member is TSOKEYnn, but the library is CPAC.PARMLIB, AFAIK.
Check it.
Yes, it does not use logical parmlib, just DD.

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W dniu 25.10.2020 o 02:06, Sam Golob pisze:

Dear Folks,

    Clark understood my question correctly.  (Hi Clark--haven't heard 
from you in a while.)


    The PARMLIB command deals with the IKJTSOxx member of PARMLIB.  
I'm interested in the TSOKEYxx member of PARMLIB which deals with TCAS.


    There doesn't seem to be any member in SYS1.SAMPLIB that deals 
with the correct syntax to code a non-default TSOKEYxx member.


    I did bounce TSO.  I even IPL-ed several times.  I would like some 
help. Thanks


    All the best of everything to all of you.

Sincerely,    Sam


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Re: How can you change TCAS defaults using the TSOKEYxx PARMLIB member?

2020-10-24 Thread Joe Monk
Sam ...

Page 761?

https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zOSV2R3SA231380/$file/ieae200_v2r3.pdf

Joe

On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 8:07 PM Sam Golob  wrote:

> Dear Folks,
>
>  Clark understood my question correctly.  (Hi Clark--haven't heard
> from you in a while.)
>
>  The PARMLIB command deals with the IKJTSOxx member of PARMLIB.  I'm
> interested in the TSOKEYxx member of PARMLIB which deals with TCAS.
>
>  There doesn't seem to be any member in SYS1.SAMPLIB that deals with
> the correct syntax to code a non-default TSOKEYxx member.
>
>  I did bounce TSO.  I even IPL-ed several times.  I would like some
> help. Thanks
>
>  All the best of everything to all of you.
>
> Sincerely,Sam
>
>
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Re: How can you change TCAS defaults using the TSOKEYxx PARMLIB member?

2020-10-24 Thread Ken Smith
Oops, wrong member, sorry.

On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 7:47 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> "* PARMLIB command
>_ maintain the active IKJTSOxx member of SYS1.PARMLIB, which includes
>  listing the specifications and dynamically updating the member
>  without a re-IPL. You can also check the syntax of any IKJTSOxx
>  member of SYS1.PARMLIB."
>
>  and
>
> "PARMLIB command
>  Use the PARMLIB command to:
>  * Display the specifications in the active IKJTSOxx member of
>SYS1.PARMLIB for:
>_ one system
>_ all systems in a sysplex, or
>_ a subset of systems in a sysplex
>  * Dynamically change the active member without a re-IPL for:
>_ one system
>_ all systems in a sysplex, or
>_ a subset of systems in a sysplex"
>
> No TSOKEYxx there, more's the pity.
>
>
>
> --
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> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
> of Ken Smith [ksmith3...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 11:34 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: How can you change TCAS defaults using the TSOKEYxx PARMLIB
> member?
>
> See the TSO command PARMLIB in TSO/E System Programming Command Reference
> to view or update (implement) TSOKEYxx.
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 10:05 PM Clark Morris 
> wrote:
>
> > [Default] On 23 Oct 2020 15:01:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
> > sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote:
> >
> > >Did you bounce TSO after the change?
> > If I understood Sam's question, it was how do you change TCAS defaults
> > by using TSOKEYxx which means to me that he expects TSO to come up
> > after IPL with the values in TSOKEYxx, not the defaults and that this
> > isn't happening.
> >
> > Clark Morris
> >
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Re: How can you change TCAS defaults using the TSOKEYxx PARMLIB member?

2020-10-24 Thread Gibney, Dave
Verify in the SYSLOG that the TSOKEYxx member you desire is actually the one 
being read and processed

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> Behalf Of Sam Golob
> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 6:07 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: How can you change TCAS defaults using the TSOKEYxx PARMLIB
> member?
> 
> Dear Folks,
> 
>      Clark understood my question correctly.  (Hi Clark--haven't heard
> from you in a while.)
> 
>      The PARMLIB command deals with the IKJTSOxx member of PARMLIB.  I'm
> interested in the TSOKEYxx member of PARMLIB which deals with TCAS.
> 
>      There doesn't seem to be any member in SYS1.SAMPLIB that deals with
> the correct syntax to code a non-default TSOKEYxx member.
> 
>      I did bounce TSO.  I even IPL-ed several times.  I would like some
> help. Thanks
> 
>      All the best of everything to all of you.
> 
> Sincerely,    Sam
> 
> 
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How can you change TCAS defaults using the TSOKEYxx PARMLIB member?

2020-10-24 Thread Sam Golob

Dear Folks,

    Clark understood my question correctly.  (Hi Clark--haven't heard 
from you in a while.)


    The PARMLIB command deals with the IKJTSOxx member of PARMLIB.  I'm 
interested in the TSOKEYxx member of PARMLIB which deals with TCAS.


    There doesn't seem to be any member in SYS1.SAMPLIB that deals with 
the correct syntax to code a non-default TSOKEYxx member.


    I did bounce TSO.  I even IPL-ed several times.  I would like some 
help. Thanks


    All the best of everything to all of you.

Sincerely,    Sam


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A gentle introduction to configuring VTAM

2020-10-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
What would you recommend for someone with an AS/400 background to read before 
hitting the VTAM manuals? I'm probably going to suggest ABCs of z/OS System 
Programming Volume 4 if there isn't something basic that addresses 
configuration.



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Re: How can you change TCAS defaults using the TSOKEYxx PARMLIB member?

2020-10-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
"* PARMLIB command
   _ maintain the active IKJTSOxx member of SYS1.PARMLIB, which includes
 listing the specifications and dynamically updating the member
 without a re-IPL. You can also check the syntax of any IKJTSOxx
 member of SYS1.PARMLIB."

 and

"PARMLIB command
 Use the PARMLIB command to:
 * Display the specifications in the active IKJTSOxx member of
   SYS1.PARMLIB for:
   _ one system
   _ all systems in a sysplex, or
   _ a subset of systems in a sysplex
 * Dynamically change the active member without a re-IPL for:
   _ one system
   _ all systems in a sysplex, or
   _ a subset of systems in a sysplex"

No TSOKEYxx there, more's the pity.



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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Ken 
Smith [ksmith3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 11:34 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: How can you change TCAS defaults using the TSOKEYxx PARMLIB member?

See the TSO command PARMLIB in TSO/E System Programming Command Reference
to view or update (implement) TSOKEYxx.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 10:05 PM Clark Morris  wrote:

> [Default] On 23 Oct 2020 15:01:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
> sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote:
>
> >Did you bounce TSO after the change?
> If I understood Sam's question, it was how do you change TCAS defaults
> by using TSOKEYxx which means to me that he expects TSO to come up
> after IPL with the values in TSOKEYxx, not the defaults and that this
> isn't happening.
>
> Clark Morris
>
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Re: emptying a PDS: was RE: [IBM-MAIN] getting XCFAS down

2020-10-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 09:55:43 -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote:
>
> ... Or does PDSE logic design
>somehow preclude reading a PDSE member when an out-of-space condition
>has prevented a proper close and writing of all data blocks during the
>member creation?
>   
I should hope that a well-designed program using BPAM would avoid the
STOW subsequent to an error writing.  But what happens if  the member
is allocated as DSN=data.set.name(member) and the program uses QSAM?

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Re: emptying a PDS: was RE: [IBM-MAIN] getting XCFAS down

2020-10-24 Thread Joel C. Ewing
I'm not assuming any abend code outside the x37 family, just asking
which one.

x37 is not an actual abend code but a generic reference to family of
abend codes  (A37, B37, D37, E37) relating to various out-of-space
conditions.  For a PDS, you get a distinct E37 abend rather than a B37
or D37 when a space failure occurs when attempting to add a directory
entry.  

Yes, the underlying root cause for a space failure in the directory is
different for a PDS vs a PDSE, and the problem resolution for a PDSE is
the same whether the no-free-block failure is for a directory-block or a
data-block; yet there are legitimate arguments for preserving an abend
distinction between the case where no member  could be created vs the
possible creation of a member with incomplete data.   The latter case is
potentially more dangerous, as an incomplete member is more likely to be
successfully read by a subsequent process and produce additional
incorrect results that must be resolved.  Or does PDSE logic design
somehow preclude reading a PDSE member when an out-of-space condition
has prevented a proper close and writing of all data blocks during the
member creation?
    JC Ewing

On 10/23/20 9:03 AM, R.S. wrote:
> Why do you assume there is/should be other abend than x37?
> Any request for new place in the dataset could end with such an abend.
>

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Re: CSNBHMG - ICSF

2020-10-24 Thread Pierre Fichaud

Yes,
I am mistaken.
CSNB are symmetric and CSND are asymmetric.
Apologies to all.
So CSNB calls can be used for DES and AES.
It's been 10 years or so that I did this.
My memory is fading as I approach 70.
Regards, Pierre.

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