Re: virtual Tape consumption statistics - DFRMM

2022-07-29 Thread Brian Westerman
Your tape management system (CA-1, RMM etc.) can tell you what it thinks is the 
size, and your Virtual tape appliance has the data on how much it compressed it 
(if at all) after it got hold of the data.  Also, if you data is sent to a 
storage point, i.e. like storing on a NetApp appliance instead of internally to 
the virtual tape appliance, then it could have yet a different number depending 
on it's compression and deduplication settings. 

So, I guess the answer is that you have the data available at multiple points, 
and they are all correct for that particular spot.  

CA1 could think it wrote 5GB to the tape, but the virtual tape appliance might 
have compressed it down to 2gb (IDRC and it's own internal compression) and the 
Network appliance could have manged to make it 1.5GB (or 3GB if it was poorly 
set up).  They would all be "right". 

Brian

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Re: AWS and IDRC/compression

2022-07-29 Thread Brian Westerman
One of the vendors that uses AWS is Optica, their z/VT uses AWS format.  It can 
also compress internally, but you don't have to.

Brian

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 21:44:25 -0500, Jay Maynard  wrote:

>I'm curious. What are you trying to accomplish with it? If it's just a
>matter of faster transmission of entire tape images, AWS tapes compress
>very well.
>
>On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 8:38 PM Tony Thigpen  wrote:
>
>> Yes. But, it sounds like nobody else will support it as a data
>> interchange, so it may be unusable for us.
>>
>> I will go look at it.
>>
>> Tony Thigpen
>>
>> Jay Maynard wrote on 7/29/22 06:38:
>> > Are you talking about the tape data being compressed inside the AWS
>> image?
>> > Hercules has a format that does this, upwardly compatible with AWS,
>> called
>> > HET (Hercules Emulated Tape), but I don't know of any other
>> implementations
>> > of it. Each block is compressed after being received from the program
>> > writing the tape but before being written to the file and uncompressed
>> > after being read but before being returned to the program reading the
>> tape.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 3:56 AM Tony Thigpen  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Does anyone know of any 'standard' for stream based (during file
>> >> creation) compression of AWS tapes?
>> >>
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Re: AWS and IDRC/compression

2022-07-29 Thread Jay Maynard
I'm curious. What are you trying to accomplish with it? If it's just a
matter of faster transmission of entire tape images, AWS tapes compress
very well.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 8:38 PM Tony Thigpen  wrote:

> Yes. But, it sounds like nobody else will support it as a data
> interchange, so it may be unusable for us.
>
> I will go look at it.
>
> Tony Thigpen
>
> Jay Maynard wrote on 7/29/22 06:38:
> > Are you talking about the tape data being compressed inside the AWS
> image?
> > Hercules has a format that does this, upwardly compatible with AWS,
> called
> > HET (Hercules Emulated Tape), but I don't know of any other
> implementations
> > of it. Each block is compressed after being received from the program
> > writing the tape but before being written to the file and uncompressed
> > after being read but before being returned to the program reading the
> tape.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 3:56 AM Tony Thigpen  wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone know of any 'standard' for stream based (during file
> >> creation) compression of AWS tapes?
> >>
> >> Tony Thigpen
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Re: AWS and IDRC/compression

2022-07-29 Thread Gibney, Dave
For quite a while, I tried to talk with my MFaaS provider about using .aws 
files as a transportable, potentially readable on Windows read-only archive. I 
know that some Virtual Tape Appliances use this format.
  After several months of confusion with the bookstore, there was some 
understanding, but no viable proposals.

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> Yes. But, it sounds like nobody else will support it as a data
> interchange, so it may be unusable for us.
> 
> I will go look at it.
> 
> Tony Thigpen
> 
> Jay Maynard wrote on 7/29/22 06:38:
> > Are you talking about the tape data being compressed inside the AWS
> image?
> > Hercules has a format that does this, upwardly compatible with AWS, called
> > HET (Hercules Emulated Tape), but I don't know of any other
> implementations
> > of it. Each block is compressed after being received from the program
> > writing the tape but before being written to the file and uncompressed
> > after being read but before being returned to the program reading the
> tape.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 3:56 AM Tony Thigpen  wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone know of any 'standard' for stream based (during file
> >> creation) compression of AWS tapes?
> >>
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Re: AWS and IDRC/compression

2022-07-29 Thread Tony Thigpen
Yes. But, it sounds like nobody else will support it as a data 
interchange, so it may be unusable for us.


I will go look at it.

Tony Thigpen

Jay Maynard wrote on 7/29/22 06:38:

Are you talking about the tape data being compressed inside the AWS image?
Hercules has a format that does this, upwardly compatible with AWS, called
HET (Hercules Emulated Tape), but I don't know of any other implementations
of it. Each block is compressed after being received from the program
writing the tape but before being written to the file and uncompressed
after being read but before being returned to the program reading the tape.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 3:56 AM Tony Thigpen  wrote:


Does anyone know of any 'standard' for stream based (during file
creation) compression of AWS tapes?

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Re: DLMSCR - EDGJRPTE

2022-07-29 Thread Michael Watkins
DFSMSrmm/DLm guy here says:

The RMM scratch report that comes out of the housekeeping job RMMHSKP is when 
needs to be sent to DLMSCR. Or if you choose another way to produce the report 
it needs to match exactly. Below is the JCL EXEC card used to produce the 
report.

//SCRATCHL EXEC PGM=EDGRPTD, 
// PARM='SEC(''DAILY SCRATCH''),DATEFORM(I)'


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I am trying to run a DLM scratch job using EDGJRPTE output but unfortunately 
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Is there any kind of tweak needs to be done in EDGRRPTE exec so that DLMSCR 
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DLMSCR - EDGJRPTE

2022-07-29 Thread Peter
Hello

I am trying to run a DLM scratch job using EDGJRPTE output but
unfortunately DLMSCR is not able to recognize the header of the RPTE.

Is there any kind of tweak needs to be done in EDGRRPTE exec so that DLMSCR
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Re: Mainframe outage affecting W.Va. state agencies could take 48, 72 hours to resolve Inbox

2022-07-29 Thread Jay Maynard
One thing that impresses me about working at AWS is that they take the
blameless RCA seriously. One of the things about the document (at Amazon,
*everything* is a document) is that it is explicitly forbidden to mention
anyone's name, and even trying is a serious CLM. The goal is to understand
how things happened and put mechanisms in place to ensure they don't happen
the same way next time, not to nail someone's hide to the wall.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 12:18 PM Grant Taylor <
023065957af1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On 7/29/22 8:48 AM, Bob Bridges wrote:
> > Some of my favorite military authors talk about the dreaded post-battle
> > analysis, in which a board sits on the officers involved and asks
> > lots of penetrating questions:  Why did you make that choice?
> > If the enemy had done this, what would have been your options?
> > Did you receive intelligence notification SR-45T, dated such-and-such,
> > about the enemy's new tech, and did you take that into account when
> > you arranged your forces?
>
> I remember the some time in the last 5-10 years hearing the "Blameless
> RCA" phrase and liking it.  Then people went and spoiled it.
>
> My intention behind blameless RCAs is to understand what people did, why
> they did it.  Sort of like trying to glean insight into their brain's L1
> cache at the time during the incident.  --  There was /some/ amount of
> sanity checking of the data / algorithms people applied.  --  But I
> always wanted to understand their state and how altering the state next
> time might change things.
>
> In some ways, it's like the Flight Data Recorder.  The FDR in and of
> itself doesn't place blame.  It may well show that the pilot did
> something in error.  It may also exonerate the pilot if there was a
> mechanical malfunction or external influence.
>
> Sometimes the outcome of such an investigation will be training.
> Sometimes the outcome of such an investigation will be a process change.
>   Sometimes the outcome of such an investigation will be new safety
> guards so that someone doesn't stick their hand in front of a moving knife.
>
> > I understand why it feels to the victims as if the purpose is to
> > spread blame around.
>
> In my (not so) humble opinion, if the person being asked the questions
> feels like they are being blamed, then the person asking the questions
> is doing it wrong.
>
> > But this is the time to look at everything that happened and see
> > what should have been done differently.  It's a great time to answer
> > honestly "in the press of the moment, I never thought of that option",
> > and "our logs show that we received that communication, but I don't
> > recall it".
>
> #truth
>
> > Blame, shmame; the board presumably knows what happens in "the
> > press of the moment", and this is my best opportunity to improve
> > my decision-making.
>
> Sometimes it's best to mute a low priority alarm so that people can
> focus on higher priority alarms.  ;-)
>
> > (Which sounds heroically rational, but I still get all defensive
> > during coding reviews.)
>
> I think there is some room for improvement in how people ask questions
> during code reviews.  E.g. "Please help me understand what you are doing
> here and why you are doing it that way?"  As if a student asking a
> teacher a question.
>
> Conversely, the ""teacher needs to be both receptive and open minded to
> such questions from the ""student.
>
>
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Re: Mainframe outage affecting W.Va. state agencies could take 48, 72 hours to resolve Inbox

2022-07-29 Thread Grant Taylor

On 7/29/22 8:48 AM, Bob Bridges wrote:
Some of my favorite military authors talk about the dreaded post-battle 
analysis, in which a board sits on the officers involved and asks 
lots of penetrating questions:  Why did you make that choice? 
If the enemy had done this, what would have been your options? 
Did you receive intelligence notification SR-45T, dated such-and-such, 
about the enemy's new tech, and did you take that into account when 
you arranged your forces?


I remember the some time in the last 5-10 years hearing the "Blameless 
RCA" phrase and liking it.  Then people went and spoiled it.


My intention behind blameless RCAs is to understand what people did, why 
they did it.  Sort of like trying to glean insight into their brain's L1 
cache at the time during the incident.  --  There was /some/ amount of 
sanity checking of the data / algorithms people applied.  --  But I 
always wanted to understand their state and how altering the state next 
time might change things.


In some ways, it's like the Flight Data Recorder.  The FDR in and of 
itself doesn't place blame.  It may well show that the pilot did 
something in error.  It may also exonerate the pilot if there was a 
mechanical malfunction or external influence.


Sometimes the outcome of such an investigation will be training. 
Sometimes the outcome of such an investigation will be a process change. 
 Sometimes the outcome of such an investigation will be new safety 
guards so that someone doesn't stick their hand in front of a moving knife.


I understand why it feels to the victims as if the purpose is to 
spread blame around.


In my (not so) humble opinion, if the person being asked the questions 
feels like they are being blamed, then the person asking the questions 
is doing it wrong.


But this is the time to look at everything that happened and see 
what should have been done differently.  It's a great time to answer 
honestly "in the press of the moment, I never thought of that option", 
and "our logs show that we received that communication, but I don't 
recall it".


#truth

Blame, shmame; the board presumably knows what happens in "the 
press of the moment", and this is my best opportunity to improve 
my decision-making.


Sometimes it's best to mute a low priority alarm so that people can 
focus on higher priority alarms.  ;-)


(Which sounds heroically rational, but I still get all defensive 
during coding reviews.)


I think there is some room for improvement in how people ask questions 
during code reviews.  E.g. "Please help me understand what you are doing 
here and why you are doing it that way?"  As if a student asking a 
teacher a question.


Conversely, the ""teacher needs to be both receptive and open minded to 
such questions from the ""student.




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Re: Mainframe outage affecting W.Va. state agencies could take 48, 72 hours to resolve Inbox

2022-07-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
I never got upset when someone found a problem in my code, but I did get 
irritated when my boss didn't read it because he trusted me. "Even Jove nods."


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hours to resolve Inbox

Some of my favorite military authors talk about the dreaded post-battle 
analysis, in which a board sits on the officers involved and asks lots of 
penetrating questions:  Why did you make that choice?  If the enemy had done 
this, what would have been your options?  Did you receive intelligence 
notification SR-45T, dated such-and-such, about the enemy's new tech, and did 
you take that into account when you arranged your forces?

I understand why it feels to the victims as if the purpose is to spread blame 
around.  But this is the time to look at everything that happened and see what 
should have been done differently.  It's a great time to answer honestly "in 
the press of the moment, I never thought of that option", and "our logs show 
that we received that communication, but I don't recall it".  Blame, shmame; 
the board presumably knows what happens in "the press of the moment", and this 
is my best opportunity to improve my decision-making.

(Which sounds heroically rational, but I still get all defensive during coding 
reviews.)

---
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This is exactly why I *LOVED* the extra time at the end of the coordinated D.R. 
Test window.  We had extra hardware, we had copies of our systems (if we did 
our job correctly) and no threat of an outage.  I thought it was *GREAT* that 
we could test things /after/ the D.R. Test results were declared but before 
people went home.

Lots of learning and experiments happened in those 36-48 hours.

--- On 7/28/22 3:22 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:
> Belated comment: I got a couple of laughs out of this post originally,
> but it might be well to realize that these stories are not of failures.
> This is why we do DR tests.  It'd be a failure if you have an actual D
> and found you couldn't R.
>
> So we try it out ahead of time, discover what we don't know, and
> repeat as necessary.  That discovery is success, not failure.

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Re: Name conflict: CICS macro name IDENTIFY conflicts with MVS macro name

2022-07-29 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Yes, it is the SDFHMAC library.  Our local CICS sysprogs established a set of 
DSN alias names with HLQ's CICS.BASE and CICS.NEXT to point to the current and 
next-release CICS-shipped libraries.  I believe we are on CICS TS V5.4 and 
transitioning to V5.6.

The local person responsible for the library setup is on jury duty at the 
moment so I am waiting for that person to be available again to resolve the 
issue.  In the meantime our SCLM team made a temporary change to put 
SYS1.MACLIB ahead of the CICS.BASE.MACLIB library for the one application team 
that needed it so they could complete their work in a timely manner.

Peter

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version library" data set?

CICS V5.2, 5.3, 5.4, 5.5, 6.0, 6.1, for example, do not appear to ship an 
IDENTIFY macro. I might have been looking in the wrong data set, though. I was 
looking at the install data set that ended with SDFHMAC.

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Re: Mainframe outage affecting W.Va. state agencies could take 48, 72 hours to resolve Inbox

2022-07-29 Thread Bob Bridges
Some of my favorite military authors talk about the dreaded post-battle 
analysis, in which a board sits on the officers involved and asks lots of 
penetrating questions:  Why did you make that choice?  If the enemy had done 
this, what would have been your options?  Did you receive intelligence 
notification SR-45T, dated such-and-such, about the enemy's new tech, and did 
you take that into account when you arranged your forces?

I understand why it feels to the victims as if the purpose is to spread blame 
around.  But this is the time to look at everything that happened and see what 
should have been done differently.  It's a great time to answer honestly "in 
the press of the moment, I never thought of that option", and "our logs show 
that we received that communication, but I don't recall it".  Blame, shmame; 
the board presumably knows what happens in "the press of the moment", and this 
is my best opportunity to improve my decision-making.

(Which sounds heroically rational, but I still get all defensive during coding 
reviews.)

---
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Grant Taylor
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 01:19

This is exactly why I *LOVED* the extra time at the end of the coordinated D.R. 
Test window.  We had extra hardware, we had copies of our systems (if we did 
our job correctly) and no threat of an outage.  I thought it was *GREAT* that 
we could test things /after/ the D.R. Test results were declared but before 
people went home.

Lots of learning and experiments happened in those 36-48 hours.

--- On 7/28/22 3:22 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:
> Belated comment: I got a couple of laughs out of this post originally, 
> but it might be well to realize that these stories are not of failures.
> This is why we do DR tests.  It'd be a failure if you have an actual D 
> and found you couldn't R.
> 
> So we try it out ahead of time, discover what we don't know, and 
> repeat as necessary.  That discovery is success, not failure.

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Re: Name conflict: CICS macro name IDENTIFY conflicts with MVS macro name

2022-07-29 Thread Peter Relson
Which CICS release is being referred to? And what is the "current product 
version library" data set?

CICS V5.2, 5.3, 5.4, 5.5, 6.0, 6.1, for example, do not appear to ship an 
IDENTIFY macro. I might have been looking in the wrong data set, though. I was 
looking at the install data set that ended with SDFHMAC.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design


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finding old cataloged tape datasets

2022-07-29 Thread McIntosh, Richard
Since there has been talk about finding uncataloged datasets, how about this.
I have lots of old cataloged tape datasets on my systems.  We just switched to 
DFRMM and found this when trying to run the CATSYNC process.   What would be a 
way to find these and uncatalog them.  None of them match the current volser 
range in use in RMM.

Thanks
Richard


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virtual Tape consumption statistics - DFRMM

2022-07-29 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello,

Is there a sample JCL to list the top consumers of Virtual tape allocation
or any smf record which can tell about the virtual tapes highest
consumption based on the Jobs.

Jake

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Re: AWS and IDRC/compression

2022-07-29 Thread Jay Maynard
Are you talking about the tape data being compressed inside the AWS image?
Hercules has a format that does this, upwardly compatible with AWS, called
HET (Hercules Emulated Tape), but I don't know of any other implementations
of it. Each block is compressed after being received from the program
writing the tape but before being written to the file and uncompressed
after being read but before being returned to the program reading the tape.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 3:56 AM Tony Thigpen  wrote:

> Does anyone know of any 'standard' for stream based (during file
> creation) compression of AWS tapes?
>
> Tony Thigpen
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AWS and IDRC/compression

2022-07-29 Thread Tony Thigpen
Does anyone know of any 'standard' for stream based (during file 
creation) compression of AWS tapes?


Tony Thigpen

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