Re: determine job that created dataset?

2023-02-14 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hi Bill,

my MXG code:-

options ls=160 ; 
 
MACRO STOPOVER MISSOVER %
 
  MACRO _DSNLIST 
 'dataset.name.one'  
 'cluster.name.two.DATA' 
%
 
 
 
%LET MACKEEP=%QUOTE( 
  MACRO _LTY64X  _NULL_ %
  MACRO _ETY64X %
  MACRO _VAR1415 
dsnresult (  
KEEP=DSNAME JOB SYSTEM OPENTIME SMFTIME  
PROGRAM DDNAME OPEN SMF64SMB 
ACBIN ACBOUT SITUATN 
JCTJOBID STEPNAME ID 
  )  
%
  MACRO _ETY1415 
 IF  DSNAME IN ( _DSNLIST )  
THEN  OUTPUT work.dsnresult ;
%
  MACRO _ETY1718 
 OPENTIME = READTIME;
 IF  DSNAME IN ( _DSNLIST )  
THEN  OUTPUT work.dsnresult ;
%
  MACRO _ETY64   
 DSNAME = ENTRNAME;  
 IF  DSNAME IN ( _DSNLIST )  
THEN  OUTPUT work.dsnresult ;
%
  MACRO _ETY77   
 DSNAME = RNAME   ;  
 OPENTIME = STARTIME ;   
 PROGRAM  = QNAME;   
 DDNAME   = SYSOWN1  ;   
 JOB  = JOBOWN1  ;   
 IF  DSNAME IN ( _DSNLIST )  
THEN  OUTPUT work.dsnresult ;
%
  MACRO _ETY64X ;
%
  ); 
 
%include sourclib(vmac1415,vmac1718,vmac64,vmac77);  
%include sourclib(vmacsmf,imackeep); 
 
DATA 
_VAR1415 
_VAR1718 
_VAR64   
_VAR77   
_SMF 
_CDE1415 
_CDE1718 
_CDE64   
_CDE77   
 
proc sort data=work.dsnresult ;  
  by opentime   ;
 
 
options linesize=150 nocaps; 
 
proc print  uniform noobs split='*' ;
var dsname   

Sv: CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-14 Thread Lars Höglund
And with parm like LINK / APF / LPA (or without parm)

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DDLIST from any ISPF command line.




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> I was shown a clist that had various options to display things like APFs and 
> LLA, etc.
> I am struggling to remember the clist name to run.
> I am hoping this vague question sparks someone's memory.
> does anyone know the clist?
> thanks
> Bill
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Re: NJE over IP

2023-02-14 Thread Steve Horein
What's going on with your message IDs?
Why do they end with a "1" in place of an "I"?

On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 8:47 PM Steve David 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We had some issue setting up NJE over Ip, It's a multi-stack environment
> (TCPIPA1 & TCPIPA2), we had problem using(Nat) ip and port 175. Netsrv1
> couldn't bind to port 175. We did verified that port 175 was not in use
> from both the stacks.
>
> IAZ05451 NETSRV1 Error encountered in function
> bind() - EDC81161 Address not available.
>
> IAZ05011 NETSRV1 Bind for the server socket failed,TCP/IP rc: 1116
>
> IAZ05361 NETSRV1 NJETCP SERVER RECEIVED A PURGE REQUEST
>
> IEA9891 SLIP TRAP ID=X13E Matched. JOBNAME=JES2S001, ASID=00CB.
>
> IAZ05161 NETSRV1 Error while closing client socket,TCP/IP rc: 113
>
> IEF4041 IEESYSAS-ENDED - TIME=07.07.55
>
> IEF1961 IEF1421 IEESYSAS JES2S001-STEP WAS
> EXECUTED-COND CODE 
>
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NJE over IP

2023-02-14 Thread Steve David
Hello,

We had some issue setting up NJE over Ip, It's a multi-stack environment
(TCPIPA1 & TCPIPA2), we had problem using(Nat) ip and port 175. Netsrv1
couldn't bind to port 175. We did verified that port 175 was not in use
from both the stacks.

IAZ05451 NETSRV1 Error encountered in function
bind() - EDC81161 Address not available.

IAZ05011 NETSRV1 Bind for the server socket failed,TCP/IP rc: 1116

IAZ05361 NETSRV1 NJETCP SERVER RECEIVED A PURGE REQUEST

IEA9891 SLIP TRAP ID=X13E Matched. JOBNAME=JES2S001, ASID=00CB.

IAZ05161 NETSRV1 Error while closing client socket,TCP/IP rc: 113

IEF4041 IEESYSAS-ENDED - TIME=07.07.55

IEF1961 IEF1421 IEESYSAS JES2S001-STEP WAS
EXECUTED-COND CODE 

Thanks
Steve

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Re: [EXTERNAL] CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-14 Thread Steve Smith
IPLINFO is a great exec, but I'd say the best display is from SDSF APF and
LNK commands.  Sort by any column.  It may have something for LLA, idk.  I
recently found LPD (Link Pack Directory), which is very helpful (and
cool).

It pays to check the SDSF command menu now & then.  Rob Scott's been
porting functions from his MXI to SDSF for years.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-14 Thread David Spiegel

Hi Bill,
Maybe OMEGAMON or SYSVIEW?

Regards,
David

On 2023-02-14 17:04, Bill Giannelli wrote:

no, it had a menu of almost all the entries in z/OS with APF and LLA amongst 
them. It might have been a third party software

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Impact or got'cha's on changing SYSNAME

2023-02-14 Thread Mike Schwab
You can add the new ID to the SMS definitions before the change then
remove the old value after.  Our site did do a removal.

On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 10:40 AM Pommier, Rex  wrote:
>
> Hi Al,
>
> Thanks for the SCRT information.  As far as how to change it, I would be 
> looking at doing it at an IPL , definitely.  One of my coworkers says she 
> tried it some time ago (probably years ago) and had SMS issues after changing 
> it.  IDK if she changed it at an IPL or how she tried, but she's a bit 
> gun-shy of trying it again.
>
> Rex
>
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> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Impact or got'cha's on changing SYSNAME
>
> I don't consider myself a "systems programmer" any longer... I assume the 
> only safe way to do this is with an IPL. I don't know if changing this 
> dynamically is an option. There will be no issue with SCRT. SYSNAME is in 
> both the SMF 70 and SMF 89 records that SCRT processes. SCRT can handle 
> changing that during the month without an issue.
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Re: [EXTERNAL] CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-14 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Perhaps TASID?

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> no, it had a menu of almost all the entries in z/OS with APF and LLA amongst 
> them. It might have been a third party software 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-14 Thread Bill Giannelli
no, it had a menu of almost all the entries in z/OS with APF and LLA amongst 
them. It might have been a third party software

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Re: [EXTERNAL] CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
Are you thinking of ISRDDN?TSO ISRDDN APF for example?

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] CLIST for APF and link list datasets

I was shown a clist that had various options to display things like APFs and 
LLA, etc.
I am struggling to remember the clist name to run.
I am hoping this vague question sparks someone's memory.
does anyone know the clist?
thanks
Bill

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zOSMF

2023-02-14 Thread rpinion865
I'm attempting to use the Portable Software Instance dialog to retrieve an IBM 
order. This
is for a z/OS 2.4 system. I've reached a point where I don't know where to look 
to correct the problem I am having.

I'm receiving IZUG1040E when I attempt to submit the generated job. I've run 
the sample
JCL IZUNUSEC to create zOSMF's certificates. I'm connecting to the zOSMF 
instance using the Opera browser.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-14 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Both IPLINFO and SHOWZOS are invoked from ISPF using the command TSO  


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no, it's a clist executed via "TSO (clist name)"

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Re: CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-14 Thread Itschak Mugzach
http://mzelden.com/mvsfiles/iplinfo.txt

בתאריך יום ג׳, 14 בפבר׳ 2023 ב-21:51 מאת Bill Giannelli <
billgianne...@gmail.com>:

> no, it's a clist executed via "TSO (clist name)"
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Re: CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-14 Thread rpinion865
DDLIST from any ISPF command line.




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> LLA, etc.
> I am struggling to remember the clist name to run.
> I am hoping this vague question sparks someone's memory.
> does anyone know the clist?
> thanks
> Bill
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Re: CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-14 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
IPLINFO from CBTTape File 434.

There is also SHOWZOS from CBTTAPE File 492 and 614.

Both can be found at https://www.cbttape.org but always check here 
https://cbttape.org/updates.htm first.

A good tool, if you have FTP access from your z/OS system to ftp.cbttape.org is 
found in CBTTAPE File 43 - CBTView. That will make searching what's on the 
'tape' and getting the files very easy.

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Subject: CLIST for APF and link list datasets

I was shown a clist that had various options to display things like APFs and 
LLA, etc.
I am struggling to remember the clist name to run.
I am hoping this vague question sparks someone's memory.
does anyone know the clist?
thanks
Bill

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Re: CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-14 Thread Bill Giannelli
no, it's a clist executed via "TSO (clist name)"

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Re: CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-14 Thread Itschak Mugzach
IPL info

בתאריך יום ג׳, 14 בפבר׳ 2023 ב-21:47 מאת Bill Giannelli <
billgianne...@gmail.com>:

> I was shown a clist that had various options to display things like APFs
> and LLA, etc.
> I am struggling to remember the clist name to run.
> I am hoping this vague question sparks someone's memory.
> does anyone know the clist?
> thanks
> Bill
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CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-14 Thread Bill Giannelli
I was shown a clist that had various options to display things like APFs and 
LLA, etc.
I am struggling to remember the clist name to run.
I am hoping this vague question sparks someone's memory.
does anyone know the clist?
thanks
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Re: how to read SMF data?

2023-02-14 Thread Gibney, Dave
MXG is a source available product. And, just about all the documentation in 
that source lib. It's a bit massive and perhaps overwhelming. SRCHFOR helps

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> thank you for your responses!
> I just found out we have MXG!
> doing google searches.
> might you point me to a link and or manual on how to use MXG?
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Re: [EXTERNAL] how to read SMF data?

2023-02-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Bill,

We have a daily job that uses a home-grown Cobol program to parse the SMF data. 
 We report on types 14, 15, 17, 18, 61, 62, 64-66 to get changes made to both 
VSAM and non-VSAM datasets.  I will probably go look at the CBT program that 
Radoslaw mentioned, just from curiosity, to see how it differs from ours.

Rex

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when getting SMF records how do you actually read the data / fields?
is there a common program/ job to access SMF data?
thanks
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Impact or got'cha's on changing SYSNAME

2023-02-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Al,

Thanks for the SCRT information.  As far as how to change it, I would be 
looking at doing it at an IPL , definitely.  One of my coworkers says she tried 
it some time ago (probably years ago) and had SMS issues after changing it.  
IDK if she changed it at an IPL or how she tried, but she's a bit gun-shy of 
trying it again.

Rex

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Sherkow
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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Impact or got'cha's on changing SYSNAME

I don't consider myself a "systems programmer" any longer... I assume the only 
safe way to do this is with an IPL. I don't know if changing this dynamically 
is an option. There will be no issue with SCRT. SYSNAME is in both the SMF 70 
and SMF 89 records that SCRT processes. SCRT can handle changing that during 
the month without an issue. 

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Re: Question on use of LPARNAME, SYSNAME and SMFID

2023-02-14 Thread Al Sherkow
I had problems to solve to combine old SMF records (0/IPL, 90(5A)/System 
Status) when 4-char SMFID/SYSPLEX/SYSNAME are duplicated on different machines 
as the CPUTYPE and serial number are not in most of the SMF records. I did ask 
IBM to add those to the SMF header some time ago. I think through 
DeveloperWorks, or perhaps through ISV relations. That was turned down. I 
understand it is kind of an "edge case" that doesn't impact many customers. 

Certainly it occurs for many sites during DR exercises. Clearly ASYS could move 
from one machine to another. That will cause an SMF90 subtype 7 if the site 
using "Z EOD" command on the original machine and SMF0 for the IPL on the new 
machine. The reverse occurs when ASYS moves back to the original, non-DR 
hardware. 

With Country Multiplex Pricing, depending on how the site does their DR 
Exercises, all these moves need to be understood. So lots of merging of 
SMFID/SYSPLEX/SYSNAME with timestamps to track these events on the proper 
hardware. 

Al

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Befuddled

2023-02-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
We don't use SMF logstreams so I have never used relativedate, it just seems 
odd to me that your output is saying that the start date = end date = 
yesterday.   Just for kicks, what happens if you change the parameter to be 
RELATIVEDATE(BYDAY,01,02)?  Does the calculated date change?  The doc does read 
that the parameter as you have it would be yesterday and today but it seems odd 
to me that using relativedate wouldn't give me the option of choosing a single 
day, and the doc says you can't use 0 as the last parameter to indicate 1 day.  

Rex 

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This SYSIN is correct RELATIVEDATE(BYDAY,01,01) which says yesterday and today



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Are your dates off?


> IFA834I RELATIVEDATE PARAMETER RESULTS IN START DATE 2023.044, END
>
> DATE 2023.044
>
>SUMMARY ACTIVITY REPORT
>
>   START DATE-TIME  02/14/2023-06:00:00 END
> DATE-T


DATE=23.044 = February 13
START-DATE=February 14

It looks to me like you're looking for data from the 13th but your SMF dataset 
has data for the 14th.

Rex

On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 5:55 PM Steve Beaver  wrote:

> I am absolutely befuddled.
>
>
>
> These are the control cards I fed to IFASMFDL, and there are many 14's 
> and 15's yet
>
> The OUDD has no records. Does anyone see any thing wrong?
>
>
>
> IFA010I SMF DUMP PARAMETERS
>
> IFA010I REPORTOPTS(NOSUBTYPE) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I SIGSTRIP -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I NOSOFTINFLATE -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I SMARTEPOVER(0200) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I WEEKSTART(SUN) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I DATE(190,2099366) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I END(1124) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I START(1101) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I RELATIVEDATE(BYDAY,01,01) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I OUTDD(T15,TYPE(14:15,70)) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I LSNAME(IFASMF.DPL1.SMF80.RACF) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I LSNAME(IFASMF.DPL1.SMFDFLT) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA020I T15  -- A819822.SMF.TYP1415
>
> IFA834I RELATIVEDATE PARAMETER RESULTS IN START DATE 2023.044, END
>
> DATE 2023.044
>
>SUMMARY ACTIVITY REPORT
>
>   START DATE-TIME  02/14/2023-06:00:00 END
> DATE-T
>
>   RECORD   RECORDS PERCENT  AVG. RECORD   MIN. RECORD
> M
>
> TYPE  READOF TOTAL   LENGTHLENGTH
>
>2 0
>
>3 0
>
>   14   299,718  4.32 %   438.67   432
>
>   1560,461   .87 %   460.20   432
>
>   17 5,187   .07 %   100.00   100
>
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Re: Impact or got'cha's on changing SYSNAME

2023-02-14 Thread Al Sherkow
I don't consider myself a "systems programmer" any longer... I assume the only 
safe way to do this is with an IPL. I don't know if changing this dynamically 
is an option. There will be no issue with SCRT. SYSNAME is in both the SMF 70 
and SMF 89 records that SCRT processes. SCRT can handle changing that during 
the month without an issue.

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Impact or got'cha's on changing SYSNAME

2023-02-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi,

I've been following the thread on LPARNAME, SYSNAME and SMFID with interest, 
namely because of a naming issue at my site that has been a minor irritation 
for me for years.  We run a small shop, 2 production LPARs not in a sysplex.  
One of the LPARs is set up as SYSNAME=SMFID=ZOS1.  Unfortunately the other LPAR 
has SYSNAME=ZOS1 but the SMFID=ZOS2.  What kind of headaches will I encounter 
if I change the SYSNAME on LPAR 2 to ZOS2?  I was told we will have issues with 
SMS and potentially SCRT?  

TIA

Rex

-Original Message-
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Sherkow
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2023 9:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Question on use of LPARNAME, SYSNAME and SMFID

The 4-char SMFID has been around a very long time. This field is in the header 
of SMF records at offset=14 (SMF70SID), SMF0SID, etc.). 

SYSNAME and SYSPLEX were added to many SMF records with MVS/ESA 5.1.0 (as 
documented in MXG with change 12.034 on Feb 14, 1994). LPARNAME was added in 
1988 with PRSM. I think the OS was ESA/390 on 3090 hardware.

For some expert witness work I did in the early 90s I began identifying MVS 
images with the 4-char SMFID from offset 14, the CPUTYPE (SMF70MOD) and the 
serial number (SMF70SER). I don’t think this happens anymore, but also long ago 
a machine could be significantly changed and keep the same serial number to 
make software licensing simpler. (For example, replacing a 3033 with a 3090). 
Keeping the CPUTYPE and the serial number handled that condition. 

This worked well, and I implemented the same image tracking when I wrote LCS 
(https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.sherkow.com/lcs/__;!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0Fj!p5fZvhB5gl1CUBT9gY7F8pyp2PgyTGioz8icTGsRFrEHXW9vTdymGr3OQwlK7eCVJYwyVaprkRwZ$
 ) to help sites audit SCRT in 2002. One customer eventually showed me that 
more information was required. They had two 4-char SMFIDs ‘ASYS’ on the same 
machine in different LPARs simultaneously! That totally broke my software. I 
called Bob Rogers at IBM to ask what was happening and what didn’t I 
understand. He said “they must have different 8-char SYSNAMEs, as that is how 
Parallel Sysplex keeps those two ‘ASYS’ separate.” Eye opening for me… I had to 
add SYSPLEX and SYSNAME to completely identify images. I was auditing SCRT, so 
I determined I needed to add LPARNAME also. A particular 4-char SMFID, SYSNAME, 
SYSPLEX could be in two different LPARs on a machine during the month (not 
simultaneously) and I needed to keep them separate. (Later recognized they 
needed LPARNAME to properly merge SMF70 and SMF89 and in 2007 APAR OA20314 
added the LPARNAME to the SMF89 record.)

Most of my licensees have 4-char SMFID=SYSNAME.  I have a few customers where 
they are different. As others have written some sites have found interesting 
uses for the extra four characters in SYSNAME. 

Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd.
+1 414 332-3062
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Befuddled

2023-02-14 Thread Steve Beaver
This SYSIN is correct RELATIVEDATE(BYDAY,01,01) which says yesterday and today



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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 10:10 AM
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Befuddled

Are your dates off?


> IFA834I RELATIVEDATE PARAMETER RESULTS IN START DATE 2023.044, END
>
> DATE 2023.044
>
>SUMMARY ACTIVITY REPORT
>
>   START DATE-TIME  02/14/2023-06:00:00 END
> DATE-T


DATE=23.044 = February 13
START-DATE=February 14

It looks to me like you're looking for data from the 13th but your SMF dataset 
has data for the 14th.

Rex

On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 5:55 PM Steve Beaver  wrote:

> I am absolutely befuddled.
>
>
>
> These are the control cards I fed to IFASMFDL, and there are many 14's 
> and 15's yet
>
> The OUDD has no records. Does anyone see any thing wrong?
>
>
>
> IFA010I SMF DUMP PARAMETERS
>
> IFA010I REPORTOPTS(NOSUBTYPE) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I SIGSTRIP -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I NOSOFTINFLATE -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I SMARTEPOVER(0200) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I WEEKSTART(SUN) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I DATE(190,2099366) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I END(1124) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I START(1101) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I RELATIVEDATE(BYDAY,01,01) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I OUTDD(T15,TYPE(14:15,70)) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I LSNAME(IFASMF.DPL1.SMF80.RACF) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I LSNAME(IFASMF.DPL1.SMFDFLT) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA020I T15  -- A819822.SMF.TYP1415
>
> IFA834I RELATIVEDATE PARAMETER RESULTS IN START DATE 2023.044, END
>
> DATE 2023.044
>
>SUMMARY ACTIVITY REPORT
>
>   START DATE-TIME  02/14/2023-06:00:00 END
> DATE-T
>
>   RECORD   RECORDS PERCENT  AVG. RECORD   MIN. RECORD
> M
>
> TYPE  READOF TOTAL   LENGTHLENGTH
>
>2 0
>
>3 0
>
>   14   299,718  4.32 %   438.67   432
>
>   1560,461   .87 %   460.20   432
>
>   17 5,187   .07 %   100.00   100
>
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Befuddled

2023-02-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
Are your dates off?


> IFA834I RELATIVEDATE PARAMETER RESULTS IN START DATE 2023.044, END
>
> DATE 2023.044
>
>SUMMARY ACTIVITY REPORT
>
>   START DATE-TIME  02/14/2023-06:00:00 END
> DATE-T


DATE=23.044 = February 13
START-DATE=February 14

It looks to me like you're looking for data from the 13th but your SMF dataset 
has data for the 14th.

Rex

On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 5:55 PM Steve Beaver  wrote:

> I am absolutely befuddled.
>
>
>
> These are the control cards I fed to IFASMFDL, and there are many 14's 
> and 15's yet
>
> The OUDD has no records. Does anyone see any thing wrong?
>
>
>
> IFA010I SMF DUMP PARAMETERS
>
> IFA010I REPORTOPTS(NOSUBTYPE) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I SIGSTRIP -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I NOSOFTINFLATE -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I SMARTEPOVER(0200) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I WEEKSTART(SUN) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I DATE(190,2099366) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I END(1124) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I START(1101) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I RELATIVEDATE(BYDAY,01,01) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I OUTDD(T15,TYPE(14:15,70)) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I LSNAME(IFASMF.DPL1.SMF80.RACF) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I LSNAME(IFASMF.DPL1.SMFDFLT) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA020I T15  -- A819822.SMF.TYP1415
>
> IFA834I RELATIVEDATE PARAMETER RESULTS IN START DATE 2023.044, END
>
> DATE 2023.044
>
>SUMMARY ACTIVITY REPORT
>
>   START DATE-TIME  02/14/2023-06:00:00 END
> DATE-T
>
>   RECORD   RECORDS PERCENT  AVG. RECORD   MIN. RECORD
> M
>
> TYPE  READOF TOTAL   LENGTHLENGTH
>
>2 0
>
>3 0
>
>   14   299,718  4.32 %   438.67   432
>
>   1560,461   .87 %   460.20   432
>
>   17 5,187   .07 %   100.00   100
>
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Re: Befuddled

2023-02-14 Thread Steve Beaver
I'm really looking for 14,15's but I did not change the JCL



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Of Itschak Mugzach
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 9:59 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Befuddled

Are you looking for ty[pe 80 (or 30) records? If you, you did not specify
them in the selection criteria.

ITschak

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On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 5:55 PM Steve Beaver  wrote:

> I am absolutely befuddled.
>
>
>
> These are the control cards I fed to IFASMFDL, and there are many 14's and
> 15's yet
>
> The OUDD has no records. Does anyone see any thing wrong?
>
>
>
> IFA010I SMF DUMP PARAMETERS
>
> IFA010I REPORTOPTS(NOSUBTYPE) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I SIGSTRIP -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I NOSOFTINFLATE -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I SMARTEPOVER(0200) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I WEEKSTART(SUN) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I DATE(190,2099366) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I END(1124) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I START(1101) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I RELATIVEDATE(BYDAY,01,01) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I OUTDD(T15,TYPE(14:15,70)) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I LSNAME(IFASMF.DPL1.SMF80.RACF) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I LSNAME(IFASMF.DPL1.SMFDFLT) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA020I T15  -- A819822.SMF.TYP1415
>
> IFA834I RELATIVEDATE PARAMETER RESULTS IN START DATE 2023.044, END
>
> DATE 2023.044
>
>SUMMARY ACTIVITY REPORT
>
>   START DATE-TIME  02/14/2023-06:00:00 END
> DATE-T
>
>   RECORD   RECORDS PERCENT  AVG. RECORD   MIN. RECORD
> M
>
> TYPE  READOF TOTAL   LENGTHLENGTH
>
>2 0
>
>3 0
>
>   14   299,718  4.32 %   438.67   432
>
>   1560,461   .87 %   460.20   432
>
>   17 5,187   .07 %   100.00   100
>
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Re: Befuddled

2023-02-14 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Are you looking for ty[pe 80 (or 30) records? If you, you did not specify
them in the selection criteria.

ITschak

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On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 5:55 PM Steve Beaver  wrote:

> I am absolutely befuddled.
>
>
>
> These are the control cards I fed to IFASMFDL, and there are many 14's and
> 15's yet
>
> The OUDD has no records. Does anyone see any thing wrong?
>
>
>
> IFA010I SMF DUMP PARAMETERS
>
> IFA010I REPORTOPTS(NOSUBTYPE) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I SIGSTRIP -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I NOSOFTINFLATE -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I SMARTEPOVER(0200) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I WEEKSTART(SUN) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I DATE(190,2099366) -- DEFAULT
>
> IFA010I END(1124) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I START(1101) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I RELATIVEDATE(BYDAY,01,01) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I OUTDD(T15,TYPE(14:15,70)) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I LSNAME(IFASMF.DPL1.SMF80.RACF) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA010I LSNAME(IFASMF.DPL1.SMFDFLT) -- SYSIN
>
> IFA020I T15  -- A819822.SMF.TYP1415
>
> IFA834I RELATIVEDATE PARAMETER RESULTS IN START DATE 2023.044, END
>
> DATE 2023.044
>
>SUMMARY ACTIVITY REPORT
>
>   START DATE-TIME  02/14/2023-06:00:00 END
> DATE-T
>
>   RECORD   RECORDS PERCENT  AVG. RECORD   MIN. RECORD
> M
>
> TYPE  READOF TOTAL   LENGTHLENGTH
>
>2 0
>
>3 0
>
>   14   299,718  4.32 %   438.67   432
>
>   1560,461   .87 %   460.20   432
>
>   17 5,187   .07 %   100.00   100
>
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Re: how to read SMF data?

2023-02-14 Thread Steve Thompson
Since you have MXG, you should be able to get the doc for free 
from their website.


I was just there checking on a few things.  https://www.mxg.com

Regards,
Steve Thompson

On 2/14/2023 10:10 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote:

thank you for your responses!
I just found out we have MXG!
doing google searches.
might you point me to a link and or manual on how to use MXG?
thanks
Bill

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Befuddled

2023-02-14 Thread Steve Beaver
I am absolutely befuddled.

 

These are the control cards I fed to IFASMFDL, and there are many 14's and
15's yet

The OUDD has no records. Does anyone see any thing wrong?

 

IFA010I SMF DUMP PARAMETERS

IFA010I REPORTOPTS(NOSUBTYPE) -- DEFAULT

IFA010I SIGSTRIP -- DEFAULT

IFA010I NOSOFTINFLATE -- DEFAULT

IFA010I SMARTEPOVER(0200) -- DEFAULT

IFA010I WEEKSTART(SUN) -- DEFAULT

IFA010I DATE(190,2099366) -- DEFAULT

IFA010I END(1124) -- SYSIN

IFA010I START(1101) -- SYSIN

IFA010I RELATIVEDATE(BYDAY,01,01) -- SYSIN

IFA010I OUTDD(T15,TYPE(14:15,70)) -- SYSIN

IFA010I LSNAME(IFASMF.DPL1.SMF80.RACF) -- SYSIN

IFA010I LSNAME(IFASMF.DPL1.SMFDFLT) -- SYSIN

IFA020I T15  -- A819822.SMF.TYP1415

IFA834I RELATIVEDATE PARAMETER RESULTS IN START DATE 2023.044, END

DATE 2023.044

   SUMMARY ACTIVITY REPORT

  START DATE-TIME  02/14/2023-06:00:00 END
DATE-T

  RECORD   RECORDS PERCENT  AVG. RECORD   MIN. RECORD
M

TYPE  READOF TOTAL   LENGTHLENGTH

   2 0

   3 0

  14   299,718  4.32 %   438.67   432

  1560,461   .87 %   460.20   432

  17 5,187   .07 %   100.00   100

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Re: determine job that created dataset?

2023-02-14 Thread Steve Beaver
Look at the 14 and 15 records


Steve Beaver


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Of Gadi Ben-Avi
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 4:37 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: determine job that created dataset?

SMF should have that information, if you collect it.

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Bill Giannelli
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Subject: determine job that created dataset?

Is there a way to determine what job created a dataset?
thanks
Bill

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Re: how to read SMF data?

2023-02-14 Thread Tom Marchant
mxg.com

On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 09:10:04 -0600, Bill Giannelli  
wrote:

>thank you for your responses!
>I just found out we have MXG!
>doing google searches.
>might you point me to a link and or manual on how to use MXG?
>thanks
>Bill
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Re: how to read SMF data?

2023-02-14 Thread Bill Giannelli
thank you for your responses!
I just found out we have MXG!
doing google searches.
might you point me to a link and or manual on how to use MXG?
thanks
Bill

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Re: DB2 DSNTRVFY WLM verify job stops WLM

2023-02-14 Thread Lance D. Jackson
Bill,

Typically WLM appl. environments enter a stopped state due to a program error 
in one of the programs running in that address space.  Are you certain that the 
specific WLM instances were in a normal state at the outset?  It would be 
unusual for one of the Db2-supplied routines to have caused the error.

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Subject: DB2 DSNTRVFY WLM verify job stops WLM

I am running the DB2 install job DSNTRVFY used to verify WLM Application 
Environments. It seems it stop some of my Application Environments. How could I 
find out why?
I am posting here after not getting any responses on DB2-L.
thanks for any help or direction.
Bill

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Re: how to read SMF data?

2023-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
The last time I looked the price was ridiculously cheap, and if your already 
paying for SAS then the delta is negligible. You get a lot and the support is 
excellent (not a word I use a lot .)


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is MXG a pay for product?

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Re: how to read SMF data?

2023-02-14 Thread Bill Giannelli
is MXG a pay for product?

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Re: DB2 DSNTRVFY WLM verify job stops WLM

2023-02-14 Thread Keith Gooding
In my experience DB2 WLM environments are stopped because the associated 
started task failed - Eg abend or JCL error. Check the output and syslog. I 
also once forgot to copy the STC JCL from the proclib which I use for dB2 
installation to a system proclib library so no STC output just a syslog 
message. I do not know if there is a more general way to find the reason .

> On 14 Feb 2023, at 10:36, Bill Giannelli  wrote:
> 
> I am running the DB2 install job DSNTRVFY used to verify WLM Application 
> Environments. It seems it stop some of my Application Environments. How could 
> I find out why?
> I am posting here after not getting any responses on DB2-L.
> thanks for any help or direction.
> Bill
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Re: how to read SMF data?

2023-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
If you're already licensed for SAS, get MXG.


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when getting SMF records how do you actually read the data / fields?
is there a common program/ job to access SMF data?
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Re: Question on use of LPARNAME, SYSNAME and SMFID

2023-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
The SMF id goes back to the SMF option of OS/360.


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>I think the SMFID is older than SYSNAME. I think SYSNAME dates from the late 
>80s or 90s, whereas SMFID was in the early versions of MVS.

System symbols are only 30 years old, but system name (via CVTSNAME) has 
existed since at least MVS/SP1.3 (no later than 1977).
SMF ID (SMCASID) appears to predate even that.

It remains the case that, of the three items in the subject, only  is 
defined as a system symbol by z/OS.

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how to read SMF data?

2023-02-14 Thread Bill Giannelli
when getting SMF records how do you actually read the data / fields?
is there a common program/ job to access SMF data?
thanks
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Re: Question on use of LPARNAME, SYSNAME and SMFID

2023-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
It goes back to OS/360.


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Interesting.
I remember the SMFid being around on MVS 3.7 and 3.8. The Sysname (CVTSNAME)
became more important with the advent of Sysplex so I probably remember
using it from then. Wikipedia has MVS/SP dated as 1980. It was preceded by
MVS/SE and before that by MVS 3.8. I don't think I used MVS/SP until
1982ish.

Lennie

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>I think the SMFID is older than SYSNAME. I think SYSNAME dates from the
late 80s or 90s, whereas SMFID was in the early versions of MVS.

System symbols are only 30 years old, but system name (via CVTSNAME) has
existed since at least MVS/SP1.3 (no later than 1977).
SMF ID (SMCASID) appears to predate even that.

It remains the case that, of the three items in the subject, only 
is defined as a system symbol by z/OS.

Peter Relson
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zSecure class description

2023-02-14 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka

(This is not RACF question, so I addressed it here)

zSecure option RA - RACF Administration, S Settings, then RACFCLAS
show list of RACF classes.
All the IBM-supplied classes have brief description.
However user-defined classes have ??? instead.

Question: is it possible to supply zSecure some text for the classes?

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Re: Are JNI required to be re-entrant and/or re-usable?

2023-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
OP stated that it is not reusable. Regrettable, but he's stuck with it.

Your guess of a DS that the code assumes is initialized seems plausible.


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Steve Austin wrote
>as the 1st call works and subsequent calls fail in the assembler routine.

That's a bit surprising to me. It's usually concurrent calls that fail due to 
reentrancy issues of a non-reentrant module, not "subsequent calls".

So while the concurrency case is quite possibly still a big problem, there 
might be something else going on, such as not initializing something that you 
are assuming is initialized. And if that was the case, your module is not only 
not reentrant but is not reusable. And that is unlikely to be what you intend.

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Re: Are JNI required to be re-entrant and/or re-usable?

2023-02-14 Thread Peter Relson
Steve Austin wrote
>as the 1st call works and subsequent calls fail in the assembler routine.

That's a bit surprising to me. It's usually concurrent calls that fail due to 
reentrancy issues of a non-reentrant module, not "subsequent calls".

So while the concurrency case is quite possibly still a big problem, there 
might be something else going on, such as not initializing something that you 
are assuming is initialized. And if that was the case, your module is not only 
not reentrant but is not reusable. And that is unlikely to be what you intend.

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Re: Question on use of LPARNAME, SYSNAME and SMFID

2023-02-14 Thread Burgess, Otto A. (CTR)
That was educational

Thanks Al!

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The 4-char SMFID has been around a very long time. This field is in the header 
of SMF records at offset=14 (SMF70SID), SMF0SID, etc.). 

SYSNAME and SYSPLEX were added to many SMF records with MVS/ESA 5.1.0 (as 
documented in MXG with change 12.034 on Feb 14, 1994). LPARNAME was added in 
1988 with PRSM. I think the OS was ESA/390 on 3090 hardware.

For some expert witness work I did in the early 90s I began identifying MVS 
images with the 4-char SMFID from offset 14, the CPUTYPE (SMF70MOD) and the 
serial number (SMF70SER). I don't think this happens anymore, but also long ago 
a machine could be significantly changed and keep the same serial number to 
make software licensing simpler. (For example, replacing a 3033 with a 3090). 
Keeping the CPUTYPE and the serial number handled that condition. 

This worked well, and I implemented the same image tracking when I wrote LCS 
(https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sherkow.com%2Flcs%2F=05%7C01%7COtto.Burgess%40opm.gov%7Cddb2470d86ff454f69f108db0e3ad95a%7C844ef9977b6348f0882a7dc8162e363b%7C0%7C0%7C638119418160619162%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=wRs69%2FjBQ%2FUjJ3ZSxFLuwiYoNVog8wy6tbekD5nEli0%3D=0)
 to help sites audit SCRT in 2002. One customer eventually showed me that more 
information was required. They had two 4-char SMFIDs 'ASYS' on the same machine 
in different LPARs simultaneously! That totally broke my software. I called Bob 
Rogers at IBM to ask what was happening and what didn't I understand. He said 
"they must have different 8-char SYSNAMEs, as that is how Parallel Sysplex 
keeps those two 'ASYS' separate." Eye opening for me... I had to add SYSPLEX 
and SYSNAME to completely identify images. I was auditing SCRT, so I determined 
I needed to add LPARNAME also. A particular 4-char SMFID, SYSNAME, SYSPLEX 
could be in two different LPARs on a machine during the month (not 
simultaneously) and I needed to keep them separate. (Later recognized they 
needed LPARNAME to properly merge SMF70 and SMF89 and in 2007 APAR OA20314 
added the LPARNAME to the SMF89 record.)

Most of my licensees have 4-char SMFID=SYSNAME.  I have a few customers where 
they are different. As others have written some sites have found interesting 
uses for the extra four characters in SYSNAME. 

Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd.
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Re: Sv: determine job that created dataset?

2023-02-14 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka

You can download it from cbttape.org
Look for file 094.

However you did not provide details.
What dataset? VSAM or non-VSAM? Etc.
The more details the better help you would get.

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W dniu 14.02.2023 o 12:23, Lars Höglund pisze:

No access to that...

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As far as I remember, It's SMF type 14 or 15, and maybe 60 for the catalog 
operation.
I would use DAF to scan the SMF file and find the information.

You can get DAF here 
https://sites.google.com/site/michaeljosephcleary/michael-joseph-cleary/zos-freeware

Gadi

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Thank you for your response.
Might you know the IFCID and the field?




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Re: determine job that created dataset?

2023-02-14 Thread Mike Shaw
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023, 5:29 AM Bill Giannelli 
wrote:

> Is there a way to determine what job created a dataset
>

The job name is in the F8 DSCB in the VTOC entry for the dataset IF the
dataset resides in the Extended Addressing Space (EAS) on an Extended
Addressing Volume (EAV).

Mike Shaw
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Sv: determine job that created dataset?

2023-02-14 Thread Lars Höglund
No access to that...

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As far as I remember, It's SMF type 14 or 15, and maybe 60 for the catalog 
operation.
I would use DAF to scan the SMF file and find the information.

You can get DAF here 
https://sites.google.com/site/michaeljosephcleary/michael-joseph-cleary/zos-freeware

Gadi

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Thank you for your response.
Might you know the IFCID and the field?

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Re: determine job that created dataset?

2023-02-14 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
As far as I remember, It's SMF type 14 or 15, and maybe 60 for the catalog 
operation.
I would use DAF to scan the SMF file and find the information.

You can get DAF here 
https://sites.google.com/site/michaeljosephcleary/michael-joseph-cleary/zos-freeware

Gadi

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Thank you for your response.
Might you know the IFCID and the field?

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Re: determine job that created dataset?

2023-02-14 Thread Bill Giannelli
Thank you for your response.
Might you know the IFCID and the field?

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Re: determine job that created dataset?

2023-02-14 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
SMF should have that information, if you collect it.

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Is there a way to determine what job created a dataset?
thanks
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DB2 DSNTRVFY WLM verify job stops WLM

2023-02-14 Thread Bill Giannelli
I am running the DB2 install job DSNTRVFY used to verify WLM Application 
Environments. It seems it stop some of my Application Environments. How could I 
find out why?
I am posting here after not getting any responses on DB2-L.
thanks for any help or direction.
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determine job that created dataset?

2023-02-14 Thread Bill Giannelli
Is there a way to determine what job created a dataset?
thanks
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Re: Question on use of LPARNAME, SYSNAME and SMFID

2023-02-14 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Interesting. 
I remember the SMFid being around on MVS 3.7 and 3.8. The Sysname (CVTSNAME)
became more important with the advent of Sysplex so I probably remember
using it from then. Wikipedia has MVS/SP dated as 1980. It was preceded by
MVS/SE and before that by MVS 3.8. I don't think I used MVS/SP until
1982ish. 

Lennie

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>I think the SMFID is older than SYSNAME. I think SYSNAME dates from the
late 80s or 90s, whereas SMFID was in the early versions of MVS.

System symbols are only 30 years old, but system name (via CVTSNAME) has
existed since at least MVS/SP1.3 (no later than 1977).
SMF ID (SMCASID) appears to predate even that.

It remains the case that, of the three items in the subject, only 
is defined as a system symbol by z/OS.

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