Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud
How many years? Well, I know a banking company which moves off mainframe. 10 years. They even claimed success, but... But still all the processing is being done on mainframe. And the money is spent on Windows servers. Hundreds. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud
This is the same company that couldn't deliver a tape to the Goddard Modelling and Simulation Facility Because there was no street address. Maybe it's changed, but at the time the Goddard Space Flight Center had building numbers and didn't have street addresses. They were probably the only company in the DC metropolitan area that didn't know how to find Goddard. I found it odd under the circumstances that they had "federal" in the name. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Dave Barry [00a5644c6d08-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 5:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud No surprise. FedEx announce years ago that they were getting off the mainframe "next year." Sincerely, Winston Smith -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 3:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud CAUTION! This email originated outside of the organization. Please do not open attachments or click links from an unknown or suspicious origin. == Bit of a shock this one. FedEx are closing all of their data centers and moving to Microsofts Azure Cloud. They are a massive mainframe customer and close friends of ours for a long time. We had one of their guys on the floor in our office working with us on solutions. Times are changing... https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theregister.com%2F2022%2F07%2F05%2Ffedex_to_close_all_datacenters%2F__%3B!!AQegZw!bk8TvW4s1b3By0vWxFwMp8n5yzIFnjuky7eEnnGMr4mQj0jjkE1rGuBNmvZjHEg_7cAhiCCEtwBU5w%24&data=05%7C01%7Csmetz3%40gmu.edu%7C29643144eaf74f714efd08da612c6d53%7C9e857255df574c47a0c00546460380cb%7C0%7C0%7C637929140683304191%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=0g4kcvCiJlwFY17cKailGRANSM15IBJ50sgbC0dh1Bc%3D&reserved=0 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud
My last three clients. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Gentlemen, when the enemy is committed to a mistake we must not interrupt him too soon. -Admiral Horatio Nelson */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 18:38 Can't tell you how many folks I've met in the 11th year of their company's 3-year conversion off the mainframe... --- On 7/8/2022 2:53 PM, Dave Barry wrote: > No surprise. FedEx announce years ago that they were getting off the > mainframe "next year." -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud
AND, wait for the first time there's an Asure outage, or a breech (remember "the cloud" does not take responsibility for this). You basically do it at your own risk. Which data-center manager is Fedex going to blame then? Good luck to them. Seem it numerous times! On Sat, Jul 9, 2022, 07:19 Bobbie Justice < 0013e2d84072-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Year 15 of the 3 year plan to move off the mainframe. > > Seems like I've heard that before. > > Oh yes, it will save us "x" amount of dollars. > > Of course we're going to spend 45 times the projected savings to get > there, but that comes out of a different budget item so it's okay. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud
Year 15 of the 3 year plan to move off the mainframe. Seems like I've heard that before. Oh yes, it will save us "x" amount of dollars. Of course we're going to spend 45 times the projected savings to get there, but that comes out of a different budget item so it's okay. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud
>From 1995... https://books.google.com/books?id=L_AXQqZphvYC&pg=PP93&lpg=PP93&dq=fedex+cannot+get+off+the+mainframe&source=bl&ots=RJK8q0mlHc&sig=ACfU3U1Go2Rt2LmKmmx6rjISivUeRxhZpg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-ko6oser4AhX9KkQIHVutDp8Q6AF6BAgsEAM#v=onepage&q=fedex%20cannot%20get%20off%20the%20mainframe&f=false Joe On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 5:38 PM Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 7/8/2022 2:53 PM, Dave Barry wrote: > > No surprise. FedEx announce years ago that they were getting off the > mainframe "next year." > > Can't tell you how many folks I've met in the 11th year of their > company's 3-year conversion off the mainframe... > > > -- > Phoenix Software International > Edward E. Jaffe > 831 Parkview Drive North > El Segundo, CA 90245 > https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ > > > > > This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the > information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended > recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise > received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, > review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information > contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies > of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email > message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this > email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be > free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system > into > which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient > to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the > sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud
On 7/8/2022 2:53 PM, Dave Barry wrote: No surprise. FedEx announce years ago that they were getting off the mainframe "next year." Can't tell you how many folks I've met in the 11th year of their company's 3-year conversion off the mainframe... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud
No surprise. FedEx announce years ago that they were getting off the mainframe "next year." Sincerely, Winston Smith -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 3:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud CAUTION! This email originated outside of the organization. Please do not open attachments or click links from an unknown or suspicious origin. == Bit of a shock this one. FedEx are closing all of their data centers and moving to Microsofts Azure Cloud. They are a massive mainframe customer and close friends of ours for a long time. We had one of their guys on the floor in our office working with us on solutions. Times are changing... https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/05/fedex_to_close_all_datacenters/__;!!AQegZw!bk8TvW4s1b3By0vWxFwMp8n5yzIFnjuky7eEnnGMr4mQj0jjkE1rGuBNmvZjHEg_7cAhiCCEtwBU5w$ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN