Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-11 Thread Brian Westerman
You would need to talk to someone on that side of the place.  Probably Henry 
Dee.  If you send an offline email I can give you his address.

Brian

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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-11 Thread kekronbekron
Oh how I wish WebAuthn, password vault/manager, and MFA became commonplace.
Would tie in great with the new HashiCorp Boundary - 
https://www.boundaryproject.io/

Maybe I'm just mish-mashing things in my head that don't actually fit together 
in the real world...


- KB

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On Saturday, December 12, 2020 1:19 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson 
 wrote:

> I don't mean to sound like a salesman, there are a few pluses for TPX that I 
> have not seen mentioned.
>
> -- Sometimes a person has a unique userid or password on one app. For 
> example, I have a userid and password on a CICS region that is different from 
> my TSO credentials. TPX can map your credentials for an oddball app so that 
> you can log on seamlessly.
>
> -- TPX has (I think an add-on) feature to assist in changing password. If you 
> have apps on a dozen different SAF plexes, you can change your password in 
> TPX itself, then logon one by one to all other TPX-supported apps. TPX 
> recognizes that you just changed your password in that session, so as long as 
> the old password on an app is the same as the old TPX password, TPX will 
> automatically change the target password to match. You can rip through a 
> dozen apps in a minute.
>
> -- You can define different PFKeys to take you straight to particular 
> sessions--limited only by the number of PFKeys.
>
> I don't know of any emulator--even the best one--that can perform these 
> functions.
>
> .
> .
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> Southern California Edison Company
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> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of 
> Steve Smith
>
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:15 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>
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>
> fwiw, I use Vista TN3270, and almost exclusively for TSO. I typically have
> 3-10 sessions at a time. Each runs its own window and process. It works quite 
> well, and each session can be sized (and sounded!... cowbell means this, 
> marimba means that) to suit. Kudos forever to Tom Brennan. fwiw, I am a 
> long-time paid customer, and will boldly state he doesn't charge as much as 
> he should (he might boldly state I can send him more money anytime I please).
>
> Long ago (if not so far away), I used TPX, but that was mainly back in the 
> real 327x days, and when VTAM was more than just a vestige. It was then a 
> killer app. The only advantage I can perceive now is the ability to recover 
> from network breakages more cleanly. Fortunately, that's not much of a 
> problem for me, and most systems patiently wait for me to reconnect anyway.
>
> I do wish I wasn't afflicted and infected with Windows, but that's a 
> different off-topic, and doesn't really affect 3270 emulation much.
>
> sas
>
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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-11 Thread kekronbekron
Thanks Mitch, just personal curiosity.
I love independent mainframe shops, a job at one is the dream!

- KB

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On Friday, December 11, 2020 8:01 PM, Mitch Mccluhan  wrote:

> KB,
>
> The company is RES, out of Italy. They work independently or with IBM to 
> replace workload schedulers. Their web site is www.res-it.com. I have had a 
> relationship with them for over 20 years. I can put you in touch with the 
> right person within RES if you have questions or would like to learn more 
> about their automated scheduler conversion/migration solution.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mitch
>
> -Original Message-
> From: kekronbekron <02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 9:26 pm
> Subject: Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>
> Hi Mitch,
>
> What product is this.. ?
>
> - KB
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Thursday, December 10, 2020 5:33 PM, Mitch Mccluhan 
> <005d889cebf0-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> In regards to automated scheduler replacements, I am aware of a company that 
>> does conversion/migration from a variety of scheduling software (CA-7, 
>> CA-Scheduler, Control-M, etc.) to the IBM IWS tool suite (formerly OPC or 
>> TWS). It is an automated conversion/migration that has been performed at a 
>> number of mainframe sites around the globe.
>>
>> Mitch McCluhan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Patti Bowman patti.bow...@unicomglobal.com
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Sent: Wed, Dec 9, 2020 4:28 pm
>> Subject: FW: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> UNICOM/Macro 4 have a Session Manager to replace CA Broadcom'sTPX with a
>> product called Tubes. Please see the link below:
>>
>> https://www.macro4.com/products/tubes-zos/
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Patti
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of
>> Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 2:34 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>>
>> I forgot to mention that they are all orderable on a ServerPAC and, at a
>> minimum, sub-capacity eligible.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of
>> Lizette Koehler
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 2:29 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>>
>> I think SuperSession for CA-TPX
>> IBM's RMM for CA1
>> As for CA Workload Automation - There should be requirements to determine
>> how to replace it
>>
>> IBM has a Tivoli Scheduler (I forget the name) But there are probably other
>> companies.
>>
>> I would guess a Cost analysis should be done to see what makes sense.
>>
>> So CA Worklaod Automation is the top of the line, but CA also has Jobtrac
>>
>> Check out http://www.syzygyinc.com/as well
>>
>> It will come down to what do you need vs. what is available on the mark.
>>
>> Lizette
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of
>> Pommier, Rex
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 12:18 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>>
>> I'm going to slightly disagree with the multi windows instead of a session
>> manager. Session manager gets closer to a single signon because it can mask
>> signing on to everything. It also typically has a longer timeout and can
>> seemingly withstand a network drop. I'm currently experiencing multiple WAN
>> drops to work daily. My TN3270 sessions lose connectivity when the network
>> drops so once the network is back I have to disconnect/reconnect my TN3270
>> connections but our session manager just drops me right back where I was.
>>
>> Rex
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of
>> Gibney, Dave
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 1:09 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: [External] Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>>
>> DFRMM for CA-1
>> Multiple tn3270 windows instead of any session manager
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On
>> > Behalf Of Elaine Beal
>> > Sent: W

Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-11 Thread kekronbekron
Hi Brian,


By any chance, is Syzygy Inc hiring, for 'facilities management' roles?

- KB

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On Friday, December 11, 2020 11:22 AM, Brian Westerman 
 wrote:

> I hate this to be a marketing email, but I wanted to point out that the 
> Syzygy Automation package from Syzygy Incorporated is much cheaper and has 
> better/more features than most of the others available, and also happens to 
> be a lot cheaper. We currently have over 300 sites running some parts or all 
> of it. Plus as an IBM-Main participant, you also get 50% off for as long as 
> you license the product(s). www.syzygyInc.com
>
> As far as CA-1 is concerned IBM's RMM is every bit as good and almost always 
> works out to be cheaper.
>
> For session manager software, Mackinney has one that is works quite nice one 
> called VTAM Switch which I maintain at several of the sites we do facilities 
> management for and it's a really solid product.
>
> 
>
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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-11 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I don't mean to sound like a salesman, there are a few pluses for TPX that I 
have not seen mentioned.

-- Sometimes a person has a unique userid or password on one app. For example, 
I have a userid and password on a CICS region that is different from my TSO 
credentials. TPX can map *your* credentials for an oddball app so that you can 
log on seamlessly. 

-- TPX has (I think an add-on) feature to assist in changing password. If you 
have apps on a dozen different SAF plexes, you can change your password in TPX 
itself, then logon one by one to all other TPX-supported apps. TPX recognizes 
that you just changed your password in that session, so as long as the old 
password on an app is the same as the old TPX password, TPX will automatically 
change the target password to match. You can rip through a dozen apps in a 
minute. 

-- You can define different PFKeys to take you straight to particular 
sessions--limited only by the number of PFKeys.

I don't know of any emulator--even the best one--that can perform these 
functions. 
 
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
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*** EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening links or attachments ***

fwiw, I use Vista TN3270, and almost exclusively for TSO.  I typically have
3-10 sessions at a time.  Each runs its own window and process.  It works quite 
well, and each session can be sized (and sounded!... cowbell means this, 
marimba means that) to suit.  Kudos forever to Tom Brennan.  fwiw, I am a 
long-time paid customer, and will boldly state he doesn't charge as much as he 
should (he might boldly state I can send him more money anytime I please).

Long ago (if not so far away), I used TPX, but that was mainly back in the real 
327x days, and when VTAM was more than just a vestige.  It was then a killer 
app.  The only advantage I can perceive now is the ability to recover from 
network breakages more cleanly.  Fortunately, that's not much of a problem for 
me, and most systems patiently wait for me to reconnect anyway.

I do wish I wasn't afflicted and infected with Windows, but that's a different 
off-topic, and doesn't really affect 3270 emulation much.

sas


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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-10 Thread Brian Westerman
I hate this to be a marketing email, but I wanted to point out that the Syzygy 
Automation package from Syzygy Incorporated is much cheaper and has better/more 
features than most of the others available, and also happens to be a lot 
cheaper.  We currently have over 300 sites running some parts or all of it.  
Plus as an IBM-Main participant, you also get 50% off for as long as you 
license the product(s).  www.syzygyInc.com 

As far as CA-1 is concerned IBM's RMM is every bit as good and almost always 
works out to be cheaper.  

For session manager software, Mackinney has one that is works quite nice one 
called VTAM Switch which I maintain at several of the sites we do facilities 
management for and it's a really solid product.

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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-10 Thread kekronbekron
Hi Mitch,

What product is this.. ?

- KB

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Thursday, December 10, 2020 5:33 PM, Mitch Mccluhan 
<005d889cebf0-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Hello,
> In regards to automated scheduler replacements, I am aware of a company that 
> does conversion/migration from a variety of scheduling software (CA-7, 
> CA-Scheduler, Control-M, etc.) to the IBM IWS tool suite (formerly OPC or 
> TWS).  It is an automated conversion/migration that has been performed at a 
> number of mainframe sites around the globe.
>
> Mitch McCluhan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Patti Bowman patti.bow...@unicomglobal.com
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Sent: Wed, Dec 9, 2020 4:28 pm
> Subject: FW: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>
> Hi:
>
> UNICOM/Macro 4 have a Session Manager to replace CA Broadcom'sTPX with a
> product called Tubes.  Please see the link below:
>
> https://www.macro4.com/products/tubes-zos/
>
> Thank you,
> Patti
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of
> Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 2:34 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>
> I forgot to mention that they are all orderable on a ServerPAC and, at a
> minimum, sub-capacity eligible.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of
> Lizette Koehler
> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 2:29 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>
> I think SuperSession for CA-TPX
> IBM's RMM for CA1
> As for CA Workload Automation - There should be requirements to determine
> how to replace it
>
> IBM has a Tivoli Scheduler (I forget the name) But there are probably other
> companies.
>
> I would guess a Cost analysis should be done to see what makes sense.
>
> So CA Worklaod Automation is the top of the line, but CA also has Jobtrac
>
> Check out http://www.syzygyinc.com/ as well
>
> It will come down to what do you need vs. what is available on the mark.
>
> Lizette
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of
> Pommier, Rex
> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 12:18 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>
> I'm going to slightly disagree with the multi windows instead of a session
> manager.  Session manager gets closer to a single signon because it can mask
> signing on to everything.  It also typically has a longer timeout and can
> seemingly withstand a network drop.  I'm currently experiencing multiple WAN
> drops to work daily.  My TN3270 sessions lose connectivity when the network
> drops so once the network is back I have to disconnect/reconnect my TN3270
> connections but our session manager just drops me right back where I was.
>
> Rex
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of
> Gibney, Dave
> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 1:09 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [External] Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>
> DFRMM for CA-1
> Multiple tn3270 windows instead of any session manager
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On
> > Behalf Of Elaine Beal
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2020 11:07 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
> > Any recommendations for CA1, CA Workload Automation (JSS/ESP), TPX
> > session manager replacements?
> >
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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-10 Thread Joseph Winters
Infosession was actually a CA product as well inherited in their acquisition of 
Platinum Technology.

Best Regards,

Joseph Winters

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 10, 2020, at 8:45 PM, Joseph Winters  
> wrote:
> 
> My father was the creator of SuperSession. He went on to create a technology 
> similar to SuperSession which is actually better called Infosession.
> 
> My company Mount Olympus Middleware is marketing the Infosession as a 
> technology we call Zeus.
> 
> We are looking for initial customers and are giving discounts to the initial 
> customers.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Joseph Winters
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 10, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Chris Hoelscher  wrote:
>> 
>> A question the answer to which (in my opinion) should influence your 
>> decisions is WHY (move from CA)?
>> Functionality?
>> Cost?
>> Support?
>> Overall Business Culture?
>> 
>> Chris Hoelscher
>> Lead Sys DBA 
>> IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
>> T 502.476.2538  or 502.407.7266
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
>> Patti Bowman
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 5:29 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: [IBM-MAIN] FW: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>> 
>> [External Email: Use caution with links and attachments]
>> 
>> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> UNICOM/Macro 4 have a Session Manager to replace CA Broadcom'sTPX with a 
>> product called Tubes.  Please see the link below:
>> 
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.macro4.com/products/tubes-zos/__;!!IfVdvpvC!AbT5EZfZRDznbLZ8i3TLJUTPYEYO4VOmQxuTMpQ0mv7oPZrpHV4sv3GUANlXLnTl$
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Patti
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
>> Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 2:34 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>> 
>> I forgot to mention that they are all orderable on a ServerPAC and, at a 
>> minimum, sub-capacity eligible.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
>> Lizette Koehler
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 2:29 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>> 
>> I think SuperSession for CA-TPX
>> IBM's RMM for CA1
>> As for CA Workload Automation - There should be requirements to determine 
>> how to replace it
>> 
>> IBM has a Tivoli Scheduler (I forget the name) But there are probably other 
>> companies.
>> 
>> I would guess a Cost analysis should be done to see what makes sense.
>> 
>> So CA Worklaod Automation is the top of the line, but CA also has Jobtrac
>> 
>> Check out 
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.syzygyinc.com/__;!!IfVdvpvC!AbT5EZfZRDznbLZ8i3TLJUTPYEYO4VOmQxuTMpQ0mv7oPZrpHV4sv3GUAMPA4aGY$
>>   as well
>> 
>> It will come down to what do you need vs. what is available on the mark.
>> 
>> Lizette
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
>> Pommier, Rex
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 12:18 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>> 
>> I'm going to *slightly* disagree with the multi windows instead of a session 
>> manager.  Session manager gets closer to a single signon because it can mask 
>> signing on to everything.  It also typically has a longer timeout and can 
>> seemingly withstand a network drop.  I'm currently experiencing multiple WAN 
>> drops to work daily.  My TN3270 sessions lose connectivity when the network 
>> drops so once the network is back I have to disconnect/reconnect my TN3270 
>> connections but our session manager just drops me right back where I was.
>> 
>> Rex
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
>> Gibney, Dave
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 1:09 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: [External] Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>> 
>> DFRMM for CA-1
>> Multiple tn3270 windows instead of any session manager
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
>>> Behalf Of Elaine Beal
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2020 11:07 AM
>>> To

Re: FW: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-10 Thread Chris Hoelscher
A question the answer to which (in my opinion) should influence your decisions 
is WHY (move from CA)?
Functionality?
Cost?
Support?
Overall Business Culture?

Chris Hoelscher
Lead Sys DBA 
IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
T 502.476.2538  or 502.407.7266

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Patti Bowman
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 5:29 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [IBM-MAIN] FW: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

[External Email: Use caution with links and attachments]


Hi:

UNICOM/Macro 4 have a Session Manager to replace CA Broadcom'sTPX with a 
product called Tubes.  Please see the link below:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.macro4.com/products/tubes-zos/__;!!IfVdvpvC!AbT5EZfZRDznbLZ8i3TLJUTPYEYO4VOmQxuTMpQ0mv7oPZrpHV4sv3GUANlXLnTl$

Thank you,
Patti





-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 2:34 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

I forgot to mention that they are all orderable on a ServerPAC and, at a 
minimum, sub-capacity eligible.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Lizette Koehler
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 2:29 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

I think SuperSession for CA-TPX
IBM's RMM for CA1
As for CA Workload Automation - There should be requirements to determine how 
to replace it

IBM has a Tivoli Scheduler (I forget the name) But there are probably other 
companies.

I would guess a Cost analysis should be done to see what makes sense.

So CA Worklaod Automation is the top of the line, but CA also has Jobtrac

Check out 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.syzygyinc.com/__;!!IfVdvpvC!AbT5EZfZRDznbLZ8i3TLJUTPYEYO4VOmQxuTMpQ0mv7oPZrpHV4sv3GUAMPA4aGY$
  as well

It will come down to what do you need vs. what is available on the mark.

Lizette



-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Pommier, Rex
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 12:18 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

I'm going to *slightly* disagree with the multi windows instead of a session 
manager.  Session manager gets closer to a single signon because it can mask 
signing on to everything.  It also typically has a longer timeout and can 
seemingly withstand a network drop.  I'm currently experiencing multiple WAN 
drops to work daily.  My TN3270 sessions lose connectivity when the network 
drops so once the network is back I have to disconnect/reconnect my TN3270 
connections but our session manager just drops me right back where I was.

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Gibney, Dave
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 1:09 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

DFRMM for CA-1
Multiple tn3270 windows instead of any session manager

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Elaine Beal
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2020 11:07 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: CA Broadcom Replacement Software
>
> Any recommendations for CA1, CA Workload Automation (JSS/ESP), TPX 
> session manager replacements?
>
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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-10 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
See you are getting lots of responses on this.

CA-1 we migrated to RMM
Migrated our automation to SeaSoft ODDS
Haven't found a viable replacement for TPX.  We use dynamic screens based off 
of attached RACF Profiles and rely a lot on SMF records, which no other product 
does.

I feel your pain though.

Dennis


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Any recommendations for CA1, CA Workload Automation (JSS/ESP), TPX session 
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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-10 Thread Steve Smith
fwiw, I use Vista TN3270, and almost exclusively for TSO.  I typically have
3-10 sessions at a time.  Each runs its own window and process.  It works
quite well, and each session can be sized (and sounded!... cowbell means
this, marimba means that) to suit.  Kudos forever to Tom Brennan.  fwiw, I
am a long-time paid customer, and will boldly state he doesn't charge as
much as he should (he might boldly state I can send him more money anytime
I please).

Long ago (if not so far away), I used TPX, but that was mainly back in the
real 327x days, and when VTAM was more than just a vestige.  It was then a
killer app.  The only advantage I can perceive now is the ability to
recover from network breakages more cleanly.  Fortunately, that's not much
of a problem for me, and most systems patiently wait for me to reconnect
anyway.

I do wish I wasn't afflicted and infected with Windows, but that's a
different off-topic, and doesn't really affect 3270 emulation much.

sas

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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 09:35:30 -0500, Tom Conley  wrote:

>On 12/9/2020 4:41 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
>> I want to disagree that multiple emulator sessions--even the best, and you 
>> all know what that is--substitutes for a proper external session manager. ...
>> 
Does an "external session manager" present the appearance of multiple
(possibly emulated) terminals, leaving each connected mainframe session
oblivious to the presence of that manager or other sessions?


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>While Skip brings up a point that multiple sessions may reach a limit of
>usability, the big limitation for me is only one window with the session
>mangler.  There are may times that I bring up two TN3270 windows side by
>side for comparisons, etc.  My other beef with Session Manglers is that
>you must have a good attention key config to move from session to
>session, and I've only encountered one installation that really worked.
>
Most desktop systems have the capability to:

o Run multiple concurrent instances of an application, each with its own
  window.  This is most common for Linux programs.  MacOS and
  Windows prefer to run only one instance at a time of any application.

o Allow a single instance of an application to open multiple windows.

o Allow an application to support multiple tabs within a single window.

I don't know which of these capabilities are supported by "even the best".

I'm not afflicted with Windows.  I understand that Windows 10 (finally)
supports multiple workspaces (desktops), a capability available for
many releases of MacOS and Linux.

In each case, the OS or application provides the capability to switch
easily between workspaces (gesture), instances, windows, or tabs
(click).  That should allow moving easily from session to session except
for the muriphobic.

Other valuable facilities are the ability to copy-and-paste text between
sessions or between a session and any other application (such as
email for communication with support) and to capture a screen image,
preferably as searchable text for documentation.

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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-10 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 12/9/2020 11:20 AM, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) wrote:

For pure IBM:DFRMM, System Automation for z/OS V4.2 and SuperSession (was 
Candle's CL/Supersession)


We evaluated CL/Supersession, but could find no ability to connect 
"slave" sessions via TN3270.


So we run Macro 4 Tubes instead (actually Session Manager for z/OS which 
was rebranded Macro4 Tubes).  Since IBM is no longer a reseller for that 
product, you would need to acquire Tubes directly from Macro4 -- now 
part of Unicom Global.


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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-10 Thread Mike Schwab
I saw a z/OS production system using BSPPILOT.  Developed for Turnkey
3 based on a CBT Tape.  I haven't seen any other distribution media.

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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-10 Thread Tom Conley

On 12/9/2020 4:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:


Have the difficulties with multiple tn3270 windows such as ISPPROF ENQ
conflicts been resolved?


Gil,

We solved that 15+ years ago with shared profile logon support.  Check 
out my Configuring ISPF for Fun and Profit here (WTW):

https://www.newera.com/INFO/Configuring_ISPF.pdf

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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-10 Thread Tom Conley

On 12/9/2020 4:41 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:

I want to disagree that multiple emulator sessions--even the best, and you all 
know what that is--substitutes for a proper external session manager. Even as a 
simple minded MVS sysprog, I have dozens of LPARs to deal with between prod and 
DR. I have 'only' TSO, SMCS, and OMEGAstuff to deal with. My CICS and Db2 
sysprogs have dozens more regions as well. I maintain that there is no emulator 
that can sanely handle scores of concurrent logon sessions. There are a number 
of session managers to choose from, but outside of the simplest of SNA 
environments, I think you need something. I've used TPX for decades at 
different shops. Just choose something and go with it.

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While Skip brings up a point that multiple sessions may reach a limit of 
usability, the big limitation for me is only one window with the session 
mangler.  There are may times that I bring up two TN3270 windows side by 
side for comparisons, etc.  My other beef with Session Manglers is that 
you must have a good attention key config to move from session to 
session, and I've only encountered one installation that really worked.


Regards,
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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-10 Thread Mitch Mccluhan
 Hello,
In regards to automated scheduler replacements, I am aware of a company that 
does conversion/migration from a variety of scheduling software (CA-7, 
CA-Scheduler, Control-M, etc.) to the IBM IWS tool suite (formerly OPC or TWS). 
 It is an automated conversion/migration that has been performed at a number of 
mainframe sites around the globe.

Mitch McCluhan
 
 
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Subject: FW: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

Hi:

UNICOM/Macro 4 have a Session Manager to replace CA Broadcom'sTPX with a
product called Tubes.  Please see the link below:

https://www.macro4.com/products/tubes-zos/

Thank you,
Patti





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I forgot to mention that they are all orderable on a ServerPAC and, at a
minimum, sub-capacity eligible.

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I think SuperSession for CA-TPX
IBM's RMM for CA1
As for CA Workload Automation - There should be requirements to determine
how to replace it

IBM has a Tivoli Scheduler (I forget the name) But there are probably other
companies.

I would guess a Cost analysis should be done to see what makes sense.

So CA Worklaod Automation is the top of the line, but CA also has Jobtrac

Check out http://www.syzygyinc.com/ as well

It will come down to what do you need vs. what is available on the mark.

Lizette



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I'm going to *slightly* disagree with the multi windows instead of a session
manager.  Session manager gets closer to a single signon because it can mask
signing on to everything.  It also typically has a longer timeout and can
seemingly withstand a network drop.  I'm currently experiencing multiple WAN
drops to work daily.  My TN3270 sessions lose connectivity when the network
drops so once the network is back I have to disconnect/reconnect my TN3270
connections but our session manager just drops me right back where I was.

Rex

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DFRMM for CA-1
Multiple tn3270 windows instead of any session manager

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2020-12-09 Thread Patti Bowman
Hi:

UNICOM/Macro 4 have a Session Manager to replace CA Broadcom'sTPX with a
product called Tubes.  Please see the link below:

https://www.macro4.com/products/tubes-zos/

Thank you,
Patti





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I forgot to mention that they are all orderable on a ServerPAC and, at a
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I think SuperSession for CA-TPX
IBM's RMM for CA1
As for CA Workload Automation - There should be requirements to determine
how to replace it

IBM has a Tivoli Scheduler (I forget the name) But there are probably other
companies.

I would guess a Cost analysis should be done to see what makes sense.

So CA Worklaod Automation is the top of the line, but CA also has Jobtrac

Check out http://www.syzygyinc.com/ as well

It will come down to what do you need vs. what is available on the mark.

Lizette



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I'm going to *slightly* disagree with the multi windows instead of a session
manager.  Session manager gets closer to a single signon because it can mask
signing on to everything.  It also typically has a longer timeout and can
seemingly withstand a network drop.  I'm currently experiencing multiple WAN
drops to work daily.  My TN3270 sessions lose connectivity when the network
drops so once the network is back I have to disconnect/reconnect my TN3270
connections but our session manager just drops me right back where I was.

Rex

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DFRMM for CA-1
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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-09 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I want to disagree that multiple emulator sessions--even the best, and you all 
know what that is--substitutes for a proper external session manager. Even as a 
simple minded MVS sysprog, I have dozens of LPARs to deal with between prod and 
DR. I have 'only' TSO, SMCS, and OMEGAstuff to deal with. My CICS and Db2 
sysprogs have dozens more regions as well. I maintain that there is no emulator 
that can sanely handle scores of concurrent logon sessions. There are a number 
of session managers to choose from, but outside of the simplest of SNA 
environments, I think you need something. I've used TPX for decades at 
different shops. Just choose something and go with it.  

.
.
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On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 19:35:22 +, Styles, Andy wrote:
>
>Logging back on with RECONNECT - either at a native VTAM (unformatted?) 
>screen, as in LOGON APPLID(blah) DATA(RECONNECT) - and/or possibly with the 
>Reconnect option selected on the full screen TSO logon screen takes me 
>straight back to where I was whenever I experience a drop out. I don't know 
>whether that's a setting in VTAM, IP or something else, but it has saved me on 
>countless occasions. That's assuming you're trying to get back to TSO of 
>course.
>
How does RECONNECT interact with multiple tn3270 windows?  If each RECONNECT 
restores an additional tn3270 session, it's tedious but effective.


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>
>I'm going to *slightly* disagree with the multi windows instead of a session 
>manager.  Session manager gets closer to a single signon ...


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>Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 1:09 PM
>
>DFRMM for CA-1
>Multiple tn3270 windows instead of any session manager
>
Have the difficulties with multiple tn3270 windows such as ISPPROF ENQ 
conflicts been resolved?


>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2020 11:07 AM
>>
>> Any recommendations for CA1, CA Workload Automation (JSS/ESP), TPX 
>> session manager replacements?

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2020-12-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 19:35:22 +, Styles, Andy wrote:
>
>Logging back on with RECONNECT - either at a native VTAM (unformatted?) 
>screen, as in LOGON APPLID(blah) DATA(RECONNECT) - and/or possibly with the 
>Reconnect option selected on the full screen TSO logon screen takes me 
>straight back to where I was whenever I experience a drop out. I don't know 
>whether that's a setting in VTAM, IP or something else, but it has saved me on 
>countless occasions. That's assuming you're trying to get back to TSO of 
>course.
> 
How does RECONNECT interact with multiple tn3270 windows?  If each
RECONNECT restores an additional tn3270 session, it's tedious but effective.


>-Original Message-
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>Sent: 09 December 2020 19:18
>
>I'm going to *slightly* disagree with the multi windows instead of a session 
>manager.  Session manager gets closer to a single signon ...


>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 1:09 PM
>
>DFRMM for CA-1
>Multiple tn3270 windows instead of any session manager
> 
Have the difficulties with multiple tn3270 windows such as ISPPROF ENQ
conflicts been resolved?


>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2020 11:07 AM
>> 
>> Any recommendations for CA1, CA Workload Automation (JSS/ESP), TPX 
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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-09 Thread Pommier, Rex
Yup, TSO does that sometime, but I normally have TSO, some CICS, a report 
viewer and an SDSF competitor that none of them have the reconnect option.  The 
session manager keeps all of them straight.  :-)

Never had a reason to use the reconnect at a USS logon screen.

Rex

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Logging back on with RECONNECT - either at a native VTAM (unformatted?) screen, 
as in LOGON APPLID(blah) DATA(RECONNECT) - and/or possibly with the Reconnect 
option selected on the full screen TSO logon screen takes me straight back to 
where I was whenever I experience a drop out. I don't know whether that's a 
setting in VTAM, IP or something else, but it has saved me on countless 
occasions. That's assuming you're trying to get back to TSO of course.

Andy Styles
z/Series System Programmer

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I'm going to *slightly* disagree with the multi windows instead of a session 
manager.  Session manager gets closer to a single signon because it can mask 
signing on to everything.  It also typically has a longer timeout and can 
seemingly withstand a network drop.  I'm currently experiencing multiple WAN 
drops to work daily.  My TN3270 sessions lose connectivity when the network 
drops so once the network is back I have to disconnect/reconnect my TN3270 
connections but our session manager just drops me right back where I was.

Rex

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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-09 Thread Colin van der Ross
For TPX, there is a product called Virtel that might meet with your 
requirement.  

Colin 
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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-09 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
We replaced CA1 with Control-M/Tape
We've always used Control-M
We still use CA-TPX. There are many replacements: Supersession, Tubes come to 
mind.


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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-09 Thread Lizette Koehler
And remember to include the pain and suffering of conversions.

Lizette


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I think SuperSession for CA-TPX
IBM's RMM for CA1
As for CA Workload Automation - There should be requirements to determine how 
to replace it

IBM has a Tivoli Scheduler (I forget the name) But there are probably other 
companies.

I would guess a Cost analysis should be done to see what makes sense.

So CA Worklaod Automation is the top of the line, but CA also has Jobtrac

Check out http://www.syzygyinc.com/ as well

It will come down to what do you need vs. what is available on the mark.

Lizette



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I'm going to *slightly* disagree with the multi windows instead of a session 
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signing on to everything.  It also typically has a longer timeout and can 
seemingly withstand a network drop.  I'm currently experiencing multiple WAN 
drops to work daily.  My TN3270 sessions lose connectivity when the network 
drops so once the network is back I have to disconnect/reconnect my TN3270 
connections but our session manager just drops me right back where I was.

Rex

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DFRMM for CA-1
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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-09 Thread Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
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Logging back on with RECONNECT - either at a native VTAM (unformatted?) screen, 
as in LOGON APPLID(blah) DATA(RECONNECT) - and/or possibly with the Reconnect 
option selected on the full screen TSO logon screen takes me straight back to 
where I was whenever I experience a drop out. I don't know whether that's a 
setting in VTAM, IP or something else, but it has saved me on countless 
occasions. That's assuming you're trying to get back to TSO of course.

Andy Styles
z/Series System Programmer

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I'm going to *slightly* disagree with the multi windows instead of a session 
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seemingly withstand a network drop.  I'm currently experiencing multiple WAN 
drops to work daily.  My TN3270 sessions lose connectivity when the network 
drops so once the network is back I have to disconnect/reconnect my TN3270 
connections but our session manager just drops me right back where I was.

Rex

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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-09 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
I forgot to mention that they are all orderable on a ServerPAC and, at a 
minimum, sub-capacity eligible.

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I think SuperSession for CA-TPX
IBM's RMM for CA1
As for CA Workload Automation - There should be requirements to determine how 
to replace it

IBM has a Tivoli Scheduler (I forget the name) But there are probably other 
companies.

I would guess a Cost analysis should be done to see what makes sense.

So CA Worklaod Automation is the top of the line, but CA also has Jobtrac

Check out http://www.syzygyinc.com/ as well

It will come down to what do you need vs. what is available on the mark.

Lizette



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I'm going to *slightly* disagree with the multi windows instead of a session 
manager.  Session manager gets closer to a single signon because it can mask 
signing on to everything.  It also typically has a longer timeout and can 
seemingly withstand a network drop.  I'm currently experiencing multiple WAN 
drops to work daily.  My TN3270 sessions lose connectivity when the network 
drops so once the network is back I have to disconnect/reconnect my TN3270 
connections but our session manager just drops me right back where I was.

Rex

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DFRMM for CA-1
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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-09 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
IBM Workload Scheduler (was Tivoli Workload Scheduler)

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I think SuperSession for CA-TPX
IBM's RMM for CA1
As for CA Workload Automation - There should be requirements to determine how 
to replace it

IBM has a Tivoli Scheduler (I forget the name) But there are probably other 
companies.

I would guess a Cost analysis should be done to see what makes sense.

So CA Worklaod Automation is the top of the line, but CA also has Jobtrac

Check out http://www.syzygyinc.com/ as well

It will come down to what do you need vs. what is available on the mark.

Lizette



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I'm going to *slightly* disagree with the multi windows instead of a session 
manager.  Session manager gets closer to a single signon because it can mask 
signing on to everything.  It also typically has a longer timeout and can 
seemingly withstand a network drop.  I'm currently experiencing multiple WAN 
drops to work daily.  My TN3270 sessions lose connectivity when the network 
drops so once the network is back I have to disconnect/reconnect my TN3270 
connections but our session manager just drops me right back where I was.

Rex

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DFRMM for CA-1
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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-09 Thread Lizette Koehler
I think SuperSession for CA-TPX
IBM's RMM for CA1
As for CA Workload Automation - There should be requirements to determine how 
to replace it

IBM has a Tivoli Scheduler (I forget the name)
But there are probably other companies.

I would guess a Cost analysis should be done to see what makes sense.

So CA Worklaod Automation is the top of the line, but CA also has Jobtrac

Check out http://www.syzygyinc.com/ as well

It will come down to what do you need vs. what is available on the mark.

Lizette



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I'm going to *slightly* disagree with the multi windows instead of a session 
manager.  Session manager gets closer to a single signon because it can mask 
signing on to everything.  It also typically has a longer timeout and can 
seemingly withstand a network drop.  I'm currently experiencing multiple WAN 
drops to work daily.  My TN3270 sessions lose connectivity when the network 
drops so once the network is back I have to disconnect/reconnect my TN3270 
connections but our session manager just drops me right back where I was.

Rex

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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-09 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
For pure IBM:DFRMM, System Automation for z/OS V4.2 and SuperSession (was 
Candle's CL/Supersession)

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I'm going to *slightly* disagree with the multi windows instead of a session 
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signing on to everything.  It also typically has a longer timeout and can 
seemingly withstand a network drop.  I'm currently experiencing multiple WAN 
drops to work daily.  My TN3270 sessions lose connectivity when the network 
drops so once the network is back I have to disconnect/reconnect my TN3270 
connections but our session manager just drops me right back where I was.

Rex

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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-09 Thread Pommier, Rex
I'm going to *slightly* disagree with the multi windows instead of a session 
manager.  Session manager gets closer to a single signon because it can mask 
signing on to everything.  It also typically has a longer timeout and can 
seemingly withstand a network drop.  I'm currently experiencing multiple WAN 
drops to work daily.  My TN3270 sessions lose connectivity when the network 
drops so once the network is back I have to disconnect/reconnect my TN3270 
connections but our session manager just drops me right back where I was.

Rex

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DFRMM for CA-1
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Re: CA Broadcom Replacement Software

2020-12-09 Thread McCabe, Ron
MacKinney Systems has a good Sessions Manager Software.

Thanks,
Ron McCabe
Manager of Mainframe/Midrange Systems
Mutual of Enumclaw

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