Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
> "A PDS must be compressed to a DASD." Does that sentence have any meaning? I would have guessed that it means compressed to a sequential dataset on DASD, but a search suggests that it means that AMATERSE itself copies the members to a temporary DASD dataset. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 4:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:15:04 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Does AMATERSE let you terse an entire PDS? > From: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieav100/tseres.htm A PDS must be compressed to a DASD. (I suspect it must POINT to update a prefix later.) And: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieav100/terse.htm Partitioned data sets (PDS), and partitioned data sets extended (PDSE) that do not contain program objects. (I RTFM.) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
Yes. On 2019-12-30 16:15, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Does AMATERSE let you terse an entire PDS? > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=02%7C01%7C%7C19afdefb13bf40cf1aeb08d78d6d67df%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637133373364937026&sdata=2osqvVUwpUbvKop%2F4QXBwimoVd5dEH7KFj7Hzzc6TdY%3D&reserved=0 > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > David Spiegel > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 6:51 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE > > ... as does the Terse format > > On 2019-12-27 16:37, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> The XMIT format allows for automatically creating the correct DCB >> information on restore. >> >> >> -- >> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=02%7C01%7C%7C19afdefb13bf40cf1aeb08d78d6d67df%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637133373364947037&sdata=j%2FvAS5olXFdXPGQNetzPz3q1eWj3v6jnJKjALLXf82k%3D&reserved=0 >> >> >> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of >> Paul Gilmartin <0000000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> >> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:42 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE >> >> On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:11:54 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> >>> A zipped XMI file is awkward, but it's the most robust. >>> >> zip utilities have internal validity checks, so I don't see that a >> zipped XMI file is more robust than a zipped txt, html, or pdf. >> >>> ...Besides, he' providing a valuable service and we should be grateful >>> regardless of the format. >>> >> Agreed. And I'd place more weight on respecting the author's wish >> than on quibbling about "Fair Use". >> >> --gil >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> . > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:15:04 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Does AMATERSE let you terse an entire PDS? > From: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieav100/tseres.htm A PDS must be compressed to a DASD. (I suspect it must POINT to update a prefix later.) And: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieav100/terse.htm Partitioned data sets (PDS), and partitioned data sets extended (PDSE) that do not contain program objects. (I RTFM.) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
Does AMATERSE let you terse an entire PDS? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of David Spiegel Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 6:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE ... as does the Terse format On 2019-12-27 16:37, Seymour J Metz wrote: > The XMIT format allows for automatically creating the correct DCB information > on restore. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7a7e47b5a97649b273b008d78b173e6a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637130804288472767&sdata=kKHE7OTiHry%2FHwburvNEBAckzUY3tLKYCr6J3%2FgZJVs%3D&reserved=0 > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:42 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE > > On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:11:54 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >> A zipped XMI file is awkward, but it's the most robust. >> > zip utilities have internal validity checks, so I don't see that a > zipped XMI file is more robust than a zipped txt, html, or pdf. > >> ...Besides, he' providing a valuable service and we should be grateful >> regardless of the format. >> > Agreed. And I'd place more weight on respecting the author's wish > than on quibbling about "Fair Use". > > --gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
... as does the Terse format On 2019-12-27 16:37, Seymour J Metz wrote: > The XMIT format allows for automatically creating the correct DCB information > on restore. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7a7e47b5a97649b273b008d78b173e6a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637130804288472767&sdata=kKHE7OTiHry%2FHwburvNEBAckzUY3tLKYCr6J3%2FgZJVs%3D&reserved=0 > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:42 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE > > On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:11:54 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >> A zipped XMI file is awkward, but it's the most robust. >> > zip utilities have internal validity checks, so I don't see that a > zipped XMI file is more robust than a zipped txt, html, or pdf. > >> ...Besides, he' providing a valuable service and we should be grateful >> regardless of the format. >> > Agreed. And I'd place more weight on respecting the author's wish > than on quibbling about "Fair Use". > > --gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
The requirement is in MVS; XMIT/RECEIVE doesn't add it and AFAIK zip doesn't eliminate it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 5:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:37:42 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The XMIT format allows for automatically creating the correct DCB information >on restore. > I see the requirement for "correct DCB information" as a weakness rather than a strength. z/OS UNIX files are more robust in imposing no such constraint. How does CBTTAPE package UNIX files, targeted either for z/OS UNIX or for desktop ancillary functions? On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:11:54 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >A zipped XMI file is awkward, but it's the most robust. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:37:42 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The XMIT format allows for automatically creating the correct DCB information >on restore. > I see the requirement for "correct DCB information" as a weakness rather than a strength. z/OS UNIX files are more robust in imposing no such constraint. How does CBTTAPE package UNIX files, targeted either for z/OS UNIX or for desktop ancillary functions? On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:11:54 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >A zipped XMI file is awkward, but it's the most robust. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
The XMIT format allows for automatically creating the correct DCB information on restore. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:11:54 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >A zipped XMI file is awkward, but it's the most robust. > zip utilities have internal validity checks, so I don't see that a zipped XMI file is more robust than a zipped txt, html, or pdf. >...Besides, he' providing a valuable service and we should be grateful >regardless of the format. > Agreed. And I'd place more weight on respecting the author's wish than on quibbling about "Fair Use". --gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:11:54 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >A zipped XMI file is awkward, but it's the most robust. > zip utilities have internal validity checks, so I don't see that a zipped XMI file is more robust than a zipped txt, html, or pdf. >...Besides, he' providing a valuable service and we should be grateful >regardless of the format. > Agreed. And I'd place more weight on respecting the author's wish than on quibbling about "Fair Use". --gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
A zipped XMI file is awkward, but it's the most robust. Besides, he' providing a valuable service and we should be grateful regardless of the format. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 5:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 21:41:03 +, Edward Finnell wrote: >Well sort of. I tried to post it as a .txt attachment and it was rejected due >to length. Maybe a happy medium is to subscribe to the CBT Newsletter. > Instructions? OK: http://secure-web.cisco.com/1MenptvAhkD58LcjeZvR-SPLuyQcmzzvLb7SsTY4woFkdmadSEAOY2aLYgwKyKWo1TMVEYsKzOun79Ah4VnZr5gTm7OSlbn9B0bLRILD1WheLx9Zg30tBJ-IRfnr0IXWok22uChINqA3_pSkw0uzr0MhbBVzzssihiv2OhTK00C6uRRBz76fD1M-fiIHcCqfDakuTCNuYAI7OBDqdc-7P5INlVlaDE9mO1hnrvdcOl7KNl-sQ60X-w4y1LjnYrzPmEIDFSGJMGwZOVhuSBVqv27Qx8CTBgueVS8_lHFEQKCmTHfHCbmsXHJiRyK9qK7xRNDhNUBylCrC3el3KQvC_CgFfMJIVVvHaS1t-z2kPv7xoZbhykUlCoEZtjdR1QNeG0D3O9PXu2iN4veIjOGvReC5yQJokqTwO-9zNgOpnCjHFO6zaNDDBgkTA7o1eIov9/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbttape.org%2Fmaillist.htm Is there an archive? Yahoo has announced end-of-life of their data repository: https://twitter.com/YahooCare/status/1204312003701092352 Google? >In a message dated 12/23/2019 9:31:25 AM Central Standard Time, >bdis...@dissensoftware.com writes: >It is not a binary choice. It can be both posted and on the CBT tape It's not obvious to me that a zipped NETDATA archive of an IEBCOPY-unloaded PDS fixed-80 member is the ideal format for a text document. But it does conform to cbttape.org conventions. “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines..." -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
That's fine as long as only he and persons he authorizes post cbttape documents there. It's not so fine if someone reposts documents without permission. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Edward Finnell <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 9:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE I was thinking maybe a cbtnewslettter web page where updates to technological articles are posted as .pdf then when they're updated Sam could point us to the new link as a .pdf. In a message dated 12/23/2019 7:36:23 PM Central Standard Time, wayn...@gmail.com writes: I like it where it is, it makes me go there.and learn. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 20:25:32 -0500, Arthur wrote: > >>It's not obvious to me that a zipped NETDATA archive of an >>IEBCOPY-unloaded PDS fixed-80 member is the ideal format for a text >>document. But it does conform to cbttape.org conventions. > >It also tends to keep the management types away. What I >meant when I said, "I'd be happier if things like that >stayed on CBT," was that I'd be happier if they weren't >easily available to those who might object to the content. >The CBT tape had a history of such troubles (though >admittedly few). > Aren't such management types, tracking an employee's browsing, most likely to object to the employee's downloading content that's not easily available to them? >Sam's instructions were good enough that I had no trouble >downloading the correct file and finding the correct >member. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Dear Folks, Please leave the distribution of my articles as is. If you want to see more of them, please think responsibly and don't post them. Get them from where they are. Thanks much. Sincerely, Sam -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I was thinking maybe a cbtnewslettter web page where updates to technological articles are posted as .pdf then when they're updated Sam could point us to the new link as a .pdf. In a message dated 12/23/2019 7:36:23 PM Central Standard Time, wayn...@gmail.com writes: I like it where it is, it makes me go there.and learn. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
On 23 Dec 2019 14:27:00 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:<5007816406371788.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>) 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: It's not obvious to me that a zipped NETDATA archive of an IEBCOPY-unloaded PDS fixed-80 member is the ideal format for a text document. But it does conform to cbttape.org conventions. It also tends to keep the management types away. What I meant when I said, "I'd be happier if things like that stayed on CBT," was that I'd be happier if they weren't easily available to those who might object to the content. The CBT tape had a history of such troubles (though admittedly few). Sam's instructions were good enough that I had no trouble downloading the correct file and finding the correct member. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
To quote Rick Nelson. "But it's all right now, I learned my lesson well. You see, ya can't please everyone, so ya got to please yourself" It's a Tour de force. Good work Sam. I like it where it is, it makes me go there.and learn. On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 9:27 AM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 21:41:03 +, Edward Finnell wrote: > > >Well sort of. I tried to post it as a .txt attachment and it was rejected > due to length. Maybe a happy medium is to subscribe to the CBT Newsletter. > > > Instructions? OK: http://www.cbttape.org/maillist.htm > Is there an archive? > > Yahoo has announced end-of-life of their data repository: > https://twitter.com/YahooCare/status/1204312003701092352 > Google? > > >In a message dated 12/23/2019 9:31:25 AM Central Standard Time, > bdis...@dissensoftware.com writes: > >It is not a binary choice. It can be both posted and on the CBT tape > > It's not obvious to me that a zipped NETDATA archive of an IEBCOPY-unloaded > PDS fixed-80 member is the ideal format for a text document. But it does > conform to cbttape.org conventions. > > “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, > adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines..." > > -- gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Wayne V. Bickerdike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 21:41:03 +, Edward Finnell wrote: >Well sort of. I tried to post it as a .txt attachment and it was rejected due >to length. Maybe a happy medium is to subscribe to the CBT Newsletter. > Instructions? OK: http://www.cbttape.org/maillist.htm Is there an archive? Yahoo has announced end-of-life of their data repository: https://twitter.com/YahooCare/status/1204312003701092352 Google? >In a message dated 12/23/2019 9:31:25 AM Central Standard Time, >bdis...@dissensoftware.com writes: >It is not a binary choice. It can be both posted and on the CBT tape It's not obvious to me that a zipped NETDATA archive of an IEBCOPY-unloaded PDS fixed-80 member is the ideal format for a text document. But it does conform to cbttape.org conventions. “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines..." -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Well sort of. I tried to post it as a .txt attachment and it was rejected due to length. Maybe a happy medium is to subscribe to the CBT Newsletter. In a message dated 12/23/2019 9:31:25 AM Central Standard Time, bdis...@dissensoftware.com writes: It is not a binary choice. It can be both posted and on the CBT tape -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
While I would certainly like to see the reports posted here, the cbttape.org home page has a lot more than just one link. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Keith Smith <02abf4b7a103-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 1:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE For me cbttape.org just had a link to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cbt-tape/ and then I requested access to the yahoo group and now I need a yahoo group ID... so I just quit trying. On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 1:27 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 15:23:14 -0500, Tony Thigpen wrote: > > >Any way you could just put a copy in a post to this list? > > > Why? Is cbttape.org inaccessible to you? > > > >Sam Golob wrote on 12/22/19 2:36 PM: > >> > >> I've just completed a new article which you might find interesting > >> to read. It is on the Updates page of > >> http://secure-web.cisco.com/1wmohaG7EEd1vSnFuVh0sLW04ol8e_nfPJrDM3suaz7I2-Ns2_fJ2drTnhsWEnK7ihLgWkX4cXj1lOSaLEZBt1XsrKZbxN7PDenxlYF7sjhg8s0XIPA5pc7kZ1Xj5wY-8vVSQPKOVCEgjIl4TsWCwEEYdbZ5KxhXtYnahS-jdmZVhPScHqMpwWTezWMtmnQ4NzErEHYvPCofAqI6jTG-U6mMPm3-LTwqbxtOHhHirqwThp7JDG-VQxyXvuhDtRzBwcaSce3USnISLwcLuYZgjoBVlwdRNGra300AxbncRSk6rFfMNhPhxGWwcgVX0Wl0lZ9L_zKaas4NlzwSb3FzF5V5NIgWaa1ywUqDN7rWI3ztFd2pPQhTeLqcGviab6ng1zhNPXUwXMF3x9ebaJb0KCSJbBxDgEXtBNesB9uh8GKUhaZY1BCwVEgoB7EI88Kdx/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbttape.org > >> on File 120, as > >> member BM1912DE. > > -- gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Keith Smith Engineer-Enterprise Sys Sr.-IT Capacity & Performance Shaw Industries Inc. Subsidiary of Berkshire Hathaway 616 E Walnut Ave Mail Drop 072-08 Dalton, GA 30721 Email: keith.sm...@shawinc.com Office: 706.532.3244 Please consider the environment before printing. -- ** Privileged and/or confidential information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or are not responsible for delivery of this message to that person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and notify the sender by reply e-mail. If you or your employer do not consent to Internet e-mail for messages of this kind, please advise the sender. Shaw Industries does not provide or endorse any opinions, conclusions or other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of the company or its subsidiaries. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
For me cbttape.org just had a link to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cbt-tape/ and then I requested access to the yahoo group and now I need a yahoo group ID... so I just quit trying. On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 1:27 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 15:23:14 -0500, Tony Thigpen wrote: > > >Any way you could just put a copy in a post to this list? > > > Why? Is cbttape.org inaccessible to you? > > > >Sam Golob wrote on 12/22/19 2:36 PM: > >> > >> I've just completed a new article which you might find interesting > >> to read. It is on the Updates page of www.cbttape.org on File 120, as > >> member BM1912DE. > > -- gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Keith Smith Engineer-Enterprise Sys Sr.-IT Capacity & Performance Shaw Industries Inc. Subsidiary of Berkshire Hathaway 616 E Walnut Ave Mail Drop 072-08 Dalton, GA 30721 Email: keith.sm...@shawinc.com Office: 706.532.3244 Please consider the environment before printing. -- ** Privileged and/or confidential information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or are not responsible for delivery of this message to that person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and notify the sender by reply e-mail. If you or your employer do not consent to Internet e-mail for messages of this kind, please advise the sender. Shaw Industries does not provide or endorse any opinions, conclusions or other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of the company or its subsidiaries. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 15:23:14 -0500, Tony Thigpen wrote: >Any way you could just put a copy in a post to this list? > Why? Is cbttape.org inaccessible to you? >Sam Golob wrote on 12/22/19 2:36 PM: >> >> I've just completed a new article which you might find interesting >> to read. It is on the Updates page of www.cbttape.org on File 120, as >> member BM1912DE. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
Very interesting! Great job Sam! On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 1:37 PM Sam Golob wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I've just completed a new article which you might find interesting > to read. It is on the Updates page of www.cbttape.org on File 120, as > member BM1912DE. > > The article talks about some newer programs, many of which I have > had a part in writing. In all likelihood, you have not heard about most > or all of them. I hope that you find this article informative, or at > least entertaining. > > Thanks for your support. All the best of everything to all of you. > > Sincerely, Sam > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
Hi Binyamin AMV"SH, וכל המרבה הרי משובח א פרייליכען חנוכה Regards, David On 2019-12-23 03:23, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 02:47:15 -0500 Arthur wrote: > > :>On 22 Dec 2019 12:23:25 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main > :>(Message-ID:) > :>t...@vse2pdf.com (Tony Thigpen) wrote: > > :>>Any way you could just put a copy in a post to this list? > > :>I've read the article. I think Sam made the right decision; > :>I'd be happier if things like that stayed on CBT.` > > It is not a binary choice. It can be both posted and on the CBT tape. > > -- > Binyamin Dissen > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dissensoftware.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C51b75944606c4ce1514b08d78781758e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637126862460516764&sdata=LtUb%2FZvZxRujKuQYS0Xh4JOQgr9DVSS52gOKaFahoVA%3D&reserved=0 > > Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel > > > Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, > you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. > > I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, > especially those from irresponsible companies. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 02:47:15 -0500 Arthur wrote: :>On 22 Dec 2019 12:23:25 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main :>(Message-ID:) :>t...@vse2pdf.com (Tony Thigpen) wrote: :>>Any way you could just put a copy in a post to this list? :>I've read the article. I think Sam made the right decision; :>I'd be happier if things like that stayed on CBT.` It is not a binary choice. It can be both posted and on the CBT tape. -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
On 22 Dec 2019 12:23:25 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:) t...@vse2pdf.com (Tony Thigpen) wrote: Any way you could just put a copy in a post to this list? I've read the article. I think Sam made the right decision; I'd be happier if things like that stayed on CBT.` -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
I agree, that would be a really good idea. Brian On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 15:23:14 -0500, Tony Thigpen wrote: >Any way you could just put a copy in a post to this list? > >Tony Thigpen > >Sam Golob wrote on 12/22/19 2:36 PM: >> Hi Folks, >> >> I've just completed a new article which you might find interesting >> to read. It is on the Updates page of www.cbttape.org on File 120, as >> member BM1912DE. >> >> The article talks about some newer programs, many of which I have >> had a part in writing. In all likelihood, you have not heard about most >> or all of them. I hope that you find this article informative, or at >> least entertaining. >> >> Thanks for your support. All the best of everything to all of you. >> >> Sincerely, Sam >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
Any way you could just put a copy in a post to this list? Tony Thigpen Sam Golob wrote on 12/22/19 2:36 PM: Hi Folks, I've just completed a new article which you might find interesting to read. It is on the Updates page of www.cbttape.org on File 120, as member BM1912DE. The article talks about some newer programs, many of which I have had a part in writing. In all likelihood, you have not heard about most or all of them. I hope that you find this article informative, or at least entertaining. Thanks for your support. All the best of everything to all of you. Sincerely, Sam -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE
Hi Folks, I've just completed a new article which you might find interesting to read. It is on the Updates page of www.cbttape.org on File 120, as member BM1912DE. The article talks about some newer programs, many of which I have had a part in writing. In all likelihood, you have not heard about most or all of them. I hope that you find this article informative, or at least entertaining. Thanks for your support. All the best of everything to all of you. Sincerely, Sam -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
