Re: D U o a 1052 was Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Requests
Fiche story: I had an autocommand that displayed the spool percentage every hour or so. Then maybe once a month I would run a program to grab all the percentages from syslog and produce a horizontal bar graph - just a simple line of 1 to 100 asterisks for each sample. I'd print months of that to fiche, and was surprised that I could read the graph pretty well without a magnifier. So when we had a spool shortage and a manager came over saying, "Add another spool pack", I'd check for a spike or trend by holding the fiche up to my desk lamp. I'm sure the manager thought I was a little nutty with that report, but that was part of the fun. On 7/26/2021 6:21 PM, Clark Morris wrote: [Default] On 26 Jul 2021 13:16:58 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote: As I recall the only 1052 for use as a S/360 console was the 1052-7. I believe that the 3210 also used the "golfball" but that the 3215 and 3287 had dot matrix impact printers. Having COM in those days sounds like luxury; I'm envious. On one occasion, I used the fiche to show our operations manager that HASP cancelled a job and that neither the night shift operator nor had anything to do with it. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: D U o a 1052 was Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Requests
[Default] On 26 Jul 2021 13:16:58 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote: >As I recall the only 1052 for use as a S/360 console was the 1052-7. I believe >that the 3210 also used the "golfball" but that the 3215 and 3287 had dot >matrix impact printers. > >Having COM in those days sounds like luxury; I'm envious. On one occasion, I used the fiche to show our operations manager that HASP cancelled a job and that neither the night shift operator nor had anything to do with it. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: D U o a 1052 was Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Requests
As I recall the only 1052 for use as a S/360 console was the 1052-7. I believe that the 3210 also used the "golfball" but that the 3215 and 3287 had dot matrix impact printers. Having COM in those days sounds like luxury; I'm envious. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Clark Morris [03b2c618bdfc-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 3:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: D U o a 1052 was Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Requests [Default] On 26 Jul 2021 06:37:53 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote: >Lot's of OS/360 MVT systems used a 1052-7, but that's not MVS. Did you >actually use the 3287 as a hardcopy console rather than for copying screens >and for applications? As I recall from around 40 years ago, we had the Selectric (bouncing ball) version of the 1052 on our mod 30, 40 and 65 systems. With long displays it quickly went down hill. I am fairly certain that the 3287 was our hardcopy device on MVS although at this late point I don't recall how much console traffic was routed to it. Starting with MVT we also printed SYSLOG to Fiche once a day. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: D U o a 1052 was Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Requests
[Default] On 26 Jul 2021 06:37:53 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote: >Lot's of OS/360 MVT systems used a 1052-7, but that's not MVS. Did you >actually use the 3287 as a hardcopy console rather than for copying screens >and for applications? As I recall from around 40 years ago, we had the Selectric (bouncing ball) version of the 1052 on our mod 30, 40 and 65 systems. With long displays it quickly went down hill. I am fairly certain that the 3287 was our hardcopy device on MVS although at this late point I don't recall how much console traffic was routed to it. Starting with MVT we also printed SYSLOG to Fiche once a day. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: D U o a 1052 was Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Requests
Lot's of OS/360 MVT systems used a 1052-7, but that's not MVS. Did you actually use the 3287 as a hardcopy console rather than for copying screens and for applications? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Clark Morris [03b2c618bdfc-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 8:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: D U o a 1052 was Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Requests [Default] On 25 Jul 2021 14:56:33 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote: >Did you ever see a 1052-7, or even a 3210, on an MVS system? Admiitedly the D >U message flood is a nuisance even on a 3270, but every shop that I saw used >3066 and 3270 for consoles, with hardcopy on syslog and no keyboard-printer >consoles. Was anybody here on a S/370 that used a 3210 or 3215 as an MCS >console? This was a 1052 on a 360/65. As I recall we graduated to a 3287 on our 4341. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
D U o a 1052 was Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Requests
[Default] On 25 Jul 2021 14:56:33 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote: >Did you ever see a 1052-7, or even a 3210, on an MVS system? Admiitedly the D >U message flood is a nuisance even on a 3270, but every shop that I saw used >3066 and 3270 for consoles, with hardcopy on syslog and no keyboard-printer >consoles. Was anybody here on a S/370 that used a 3210 or 3215 as an MCS >console? This was a 1052 on a 360/65. As I recall we graduated to a 3287 on our 4341. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
