Re: JES2 Mods

[Larry Martin]

No the actual statement used system MVSA.  I incorrectly meant to imply any 
valid LPAR name.


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Subject: Re: JES2 Mods

I have the same problem if I use your statement (JOBPARM i.s.o JOPARM)

/*JOBPARM  SYSAFF=MVS*

HASP112 value of SYSAFF= parameter is not valid



Did you by any chance mean to use /*JOBPARM  SYSAFF=*?



Kees.



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Sent: 17 November, 2016 16:09

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Subject: JES2 Mods



I posted a question about SYSAFF not working and received several resonses 
(thanks).  Thanks especially to Bill Planer for his suggestions.



Several people asked for specifics about the failure.  This ocurrs when using 
/*JOPARM  SYSAFF=MVS*



The message is out of module HASCSRIP and reads "-- INVALID /*JOBPARM - VALUE 
OF SYSAFF= PARAMETER IS NOT VALID".



This only happens after maintenance and reapplying the JES2 mods.



I am currently going through the entire process again to rebuild the system and 
see if I still have the failure.



Thanks again,



Larry



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Re: JES2 Mods

[Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM]

I have the same problem if I use your statement (JOBPARM i.s.o JOPARM)
/*JOBPARM  SYSAFF=MVS*
HASP112 value of SYSAFF= parameter is not valid

Did you by any chance mean to use /*JOBPARM  SYSAFF=*?

Kees.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Larry Martin
Sent: 17 November, 2016 16:09
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: JES2 Mods

I posted a question about SYSAFF not working and received several resonses 
(thanks).  Thanks especially to Bill Planer for his suggestions.

Several people asked for specifics about the failure.  This ocurrs when using 
/*JOPARM  SYSAFF=MVS*

The message is out of module HASCSRIP and reads "-- INVALID /*JOBPARM - VALUE 
OF SYSAFF= PARAMETER IS NOT VALID".

This only happens after maintenance and reapplying the JES2 mods.

I am currently going through the entire process again to rebuild the system and 
see if I still have the failure.

Thanks again,

Larry

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JES2 Mods

[Larry Martin]

I posted a question about SYSAFF not working and received several resonses 
(thanks).  Thanks especially to Bill Planer for his suggestions.

Several people asked for specifics about the failure.  This ocurrs when using 
/*JOPARM  SYSAFF=MVS*

The message is out of module HASCSRIP and reads "-- INVALID /*JOBPARM - VALUE 
OF SYSAFF= PARAMETER IS NOT VALID".

This only happens after maintenance and reapplying the JES2 mods.

I am currently going through the entire process again to rebuild the system and 
see if I still have the failure.

Thanks again,

Larry

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Re: JES2 Mods

[Lizette Koehler]

It will help to know specifically what the issue is.

/*ROUTE XEQ 
/*JOBPARM S=

If so, what are the issues, or error messages you get?

Or is it something else?

This might be something that IBM Support could be more helpful with - as you 
might need assistance in coded JES2 Exits.

Depending on the level of OS for MVS you are running, a lot of the functions in 
the older JES2 Mods is now incorporated into JES2.  If you could provide 
specific information the List can be very helpful.


After a little searching on the WEB is JTIP this function:
the JES2/TSO Interface Package which was used by Mutual Life of Canada, General 
Electric and even the IBM Development Labs. This has now been replaced by SDSF.


Lizette


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> Behalf Of Elaine Beal
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:56 AM
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> Subject: Re: JES2 Mods
> 
> I'm working with Larry. We tried removing the JTIP mods but basically gave up.
> There are a lot of old mods on our system and we had to keep backing them off
> and could never get JES working.
> We actually got the maintenance (RSU1501) applied and the only thing that
> doesn't work is SYSAFF Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Elaine

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Re: JES2 Mods

[John Eells]

When you say "SYSAFF doesn't work," exactly what is it that happens?  Is 
SYSAFF ignored?  Are there error messages issued?  Can you post the JOB 
and JECL statements and the messages you get?


Elaine Beal wrote:

I'm working with Larry. We tried removing the JTIP mods but basically gave up. 
There are a lot of old mods on our system and we had to keep backing them off 
and could never get JES working.
We actually got the maintenance (RSU1501) applied and the only thing that 
doesn't work is SYSAFF
Any thoughts?


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Re: JES2 Mods

[Allan Staller]

Thruput Manager?  OSEM?   WLM SCHEDULING ENVIRONMENTS?



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Subject: Re: JES2 Mods

I'm working with Larry. We tried removing the JTIP mods but basically gave up. 
There are a lot of old mods on our system and we had to keep backing them off 
and could never get JES working.
We actually got the maintenance (RSU1501) applied and the only thing that 
doesn't work is SYSAFF Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Elaine

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Re: JES2 Mods

[Elaine Beal]

I'm working with Larry. We tried removing the JTIP mods but basically gave up. 
There are a lot of old mods on our system and we had to keep backing them off 
and could never get JES working.
We actually got the maintenance (RSU1501) applied and the only thing that 
doesn't work is SYSAFF
Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Elaine

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Re: JES2 Mods

[John McKown]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Lizette Koehler 
wrote:

> You may have reached a point where J/TIP may need to be changed to a JES2
> exit.
>
> Or... If you have any of the following products, could ease the transition
>
> Trident Software z/OSEM
>
> MVS Solutions   Thruput Manager
>
> DTS SoftwareEasy/Exit
>
> There may be others as well.
>
> Or the other process is to write a new JES2 Exit(s) to provide the same
> function.
>
> Lizette
>
>
​In keeping with my latest "fad", I wonder if using System REXX would be a
decent way to write a JES2 exit. I use one (asynchronous) as an MPF exit to
do some automation. And I know that there is one around for RACF for
password validation. But neither of these is performance sensitive (the MPF
because of it being _asynchronous_).​


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Re: JES2 Mods

[Lizette Koehler]

You may have reached a point where J/TIP may need to be changed to a JES2 exit.

Or... If you have any of the following products, could ease the transition

Trident Software z/OSEM

MVS Solutions   Thruput Manager

DTS SoftwareEasy/Exit

There may be others as well.

Or the other process is to write a new JES2 Exit(s) to provide the same 
function.

Lizette


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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Larry Martin
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 10:50 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: JES2 Mods
> 
> Our system has a lot of JES2 local modifications and among them is an old
> package named J/TIP (from Univ. of Illinois Chicago).  When applying our last
> maintenance the SYSAFF= function on the JOBPARM card stopped working.  I think
> that the J?TIP mods are involved.
> 
> Has anyone seen anything similar?  Is anyone else still using J/TIP.
> 
> Thanks
> 

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Re: JES2 Mods

[Tony Harminc]

On 7 November 2016 at 12:50, Larry Martin  wrote:
> Our system has a lot of JES2 local modifications and among them is an old 
> package named J/TIP (from Univ. of Illinois Chicago).  When applying our last 
> maintenance the SYSAFF= function on the JOBPARM card stopped working.  I 
> think that the J?TIP mods are involved.
>
> Has anyone seen anything similar?  Is anyone else still using J/TIP.

Wow! I last played with JTIP in 1979 or 1980. My mind boggles at the
thought that it would still work on a current JES2, given the coding
changes in both style and detail over the last 35+ years. IIRC there
were large inline updates to JES2 mainline code, and fitting them back
then to a system that already had signficant mods was a lot of work.
Has that all been moved to exits, or are you still fitting and
refitting...?

Tony H.

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JES2 Mods

[Larry Martin]

Our system has a lot of JES2 local modifications and among them is an old 
package named J/TIP (from Univ. of Illinois Chicago).  When applying our last 
maintenance the SYSAFF= function on the JOBPARM card stopped working.  I think 
that the J?TIP mods are involved.

Has anyone seen anything similar?  Is anyone else still using J/TIP.

Thanks

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