AW: Re: AW: Jobs hanging in status Awaiting Conversion (JES2) (solved)

2015-03-19 Thread Peter Hunkeler
I would also shout Agh! At what JES2 and z/OS level are you? Or does that 
not matter?


No, its not the fault of JES2, so the software levels do not matter.


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AW: Jobs hanging in status Awaiting Conversion (JES2) (solved)

2015-03-19 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Any idea what to look for?
Arrrgh. JES2 INDependent mode hit us again


I stumbled over this earlier this year when job output was not purged. TWS is 
the culprit. See JES2 not purging output on PURGE queue in the JES2 list (Jan 
2015), if interested in details.

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Jobs hanging in status Awaiting Conversion (JES2)

2015-03-19 Thread Peter Hunkeler
I know there is a JES2 list, but this list is usally more responsive and we're 
somewhat in a rush to find a solution.


We're somewhat lost. In support of our storage colleages, we've shutdown both 
systems in out maintenance plex, and re-ipled one with only basic functions 
such as JES2, VTAM, TSO. Intent was to be able to run some storage jobs against 
the zFSs.

We're facing the problem that jobs we submit are hanging in status Awaiting 
Conversion. We've done all sorts of displays and checks, especially all that 
is mentioned in the elder JES2 Level2 Bit Bucket.

The 4 converter PCEs are idle, there is no (visible) GRS contention. Started 
tsks and TSO logons are working.

Any idea what to look for?

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Re: AW: Jobs hanging in status Awaiting Conversion (JES2) (solved)

2015-03-19 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter Hunkeler wrote:

Any idea what to look for?
Arrrgh. JES2 INDependent mode hit us again

I would also shout Agh! At what JES2 and z/OS level are you? Or does that 
not matter?

I stumbled over this earlier this year when job output was not purged. TWS is 
the culprit. See JES2 not purging output on PURGE queue in the JES2 list 
(Jan 2015), if interested in details.

Thanks for this background info.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Jobs hanging in status Awaiting Conversion (JES2)

2015-03-19 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Did you issue $S after the IPL?

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2015-03-19 9:48 GMT-03:00 Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com:

 Another thought is do you have that system in Independent Mode

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 1) Scheduling Environments
 2) System affinity to a system not in the MAS
 3) $AJ

 Probably some more that I can't think of at the moment///


 HTH,
 snip
 I know there is a JES2 list, but this list is usally more responsive and
 we're somewhat in a rush to find a solution.


 We're somewhat lost. In support of our storage colleages, we've shutdown
 both systems in out maintenance plex, and re-ipled one with only basic
 functions such as JES2, VTAM, TSO. Intent was to be able to run some
 storage jobs against the zFSs.

 We're facing the problem that jobs we submit are hanging in status
 Awaiting Conversion. We've done all sorts of displays and checks,
 especially all that is mentioned in the elder JES2 Level2 Bit Bucket.

 The 4 converter PCEs are idle, there is no (visible) GRS contention.
 Started tsks and TSO logons are working.
 /snip

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Re: Jobs hanging in status Awaiting Conversion (JES2)

2015-03-19 Thread Staller, Allan
1) Scheduling Environments
2) System affinity to a system not in the MAS
3) $AJ

Probably some more that I can't think of at the moment///


HTH,
snip
I know there is a JES2 list, but this list is usally more responsive and we're 
somewhat in a rush to find a solution.


We're somewhat lost. In support of our storage colleages, we've shutdown both 
systems in out maintenance plex, and re-ipled one with only basic functions 
such as JES2, VTAM, TSO. Intent was to be able to run some storage jobs against 
the zFSs.

We're facing the problem that jobs we submit are hanging in status Awaiting 
Conversion. We've done all sorts of displays and checks, especially all that 
is mentioned in the elder JES2 Level2 Bit Bucket. 

The 4 converter PCEs are idle, there is no (visible) GRS contention. Started 
tsks and TSO logons are working. 
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Re: Jobs hanging in status Awaiting Conversion (JES2)

2015-03-19 Thread Jousma, David
Another thought is do you have that system in Independent Mode 

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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Staller, Allan
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 8:40 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Jobs hanging in status Awaiting Conversion (JES2)

1) Scheduling Environments
2) System affinity to a system not in the MAS
3) $AJ

Probably some more that I can't think of at the moment///


HTH,
snip
I know there is a JES2 list, but this list is usally more responsive and we're 
somewhat in a rush to find a solution.


We're somewhat lost. In support of our storage colleages, we've shutdown both 
systems in out maintenance plex, and re-ipled one with only basic functions 
such as JES2, VTAM, TSO. Intent was to be able to run some storage jobs against 
the zFSs.

We're facing the problem that jobs we submit are hanging in status Awaiting 
Conversion. We've done all sorts of displays and checks, especially all that 
is mentioned in the elder JES2 Level2 Bit Bucket. 

The 4 converter PCEs are idle, there is no (visible) GRS contention. Started 
tsks and TSO logons are working. 
/snip

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Re: Jobs hanging in status Awaiting Conversion (JES2)

2015-03-19 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
To all who kindly replied to help poor Peter... I believe Peter Hunkeler 
resolved this, but because his replies start with 'AW:' instead of 'RE:', I'm 
wondering if you missed that post from him?

I repeat what he wrote:

Any idea what to look for? 
Arrrgh. JES2 INDependent mode hit us again 

I stumbled over this earlier this year when job output was not purged. TWS is 
the culprit. See JES2 not purging output on PURGE queue in the JES2 list (Jan 
2015), if interested in details.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Jobs hanging in status Awaiting Conversion (JES2)

2015-03-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
Did you go into SDSF and issue the I next to a job awaiting conversion?
What did it show?

Check for route cards or other assignment statements.

This might be due to a system name not being available.

Can you post JCL in this state?  It would help to determine the issue.

Lizette



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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 2:25 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Jobs hanging in status Awaiting Conversion (JES2)
 
 I know there is a JES2 list, but this list is usally more responsive and
we're
 somewhat in a rush to find a solution.
 
 
 We're somewhat lost. In support of our storage colleages, we've shutdown
 both systems in out maintenance plex, and re-ipled one with only basic
 functions such as JES2, VTAM, TSO. Intent was to be able to run some
 storage jobs against the zFSs.
 
 We're facing the problem that jobs we submit are hanging in status
Awaiting
 Conversion. We've done all sorts of displays and checks, especially all
that is
 mentioned in the elder JES2 Level2 Bit Bucket.
 
 The 4 converter PCEs are idle, there is no (visible) GRS contention.
Started
 tsks and TSO logons are working.
 
 Any idea what to look for?
 
 --
 Peter Hunkeler
 
 

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Re: Jobs hanging in status Awaiting Conversion (JES2)

2015-03-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
I would also use the $DN command and see if the ANY and IND parameters are
in play.  The ANY and IND refer only to jobs awaiting execution/conversion.
Affinity is ignored for jobs awaiting print/punch processing; in this case,
specifying ANY or IND results in a list of all waiting jobs.

Lizette


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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 7:24 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Jobs hanging in status Awaiting Conversion (JES2)
 
 Did you go into SDSF and issue the I next to a job awaiting conversion?
 What did it show?
 
 Check for route cards or other assignment statements.
 
 This might be due to a system name not being available.
 
 Can you post JCL in this state?  It would help to determine the issue.
 
 Lizette
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-
 m...@listserv.ua.edu]
  On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler
  Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 2:25 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Jobs hanging in status Awaiting Conversion (JES2)
 
  I know there is a JES2 list, but this list is usally more responsive
  and
 we're
  somewhat in a rush to find a solution.
 
 
  We're somewhat lost. In support of our storage colleages, we've
  shutdown both systems in out maintenance plex, and re-ipled one with
  only basic functions such as JES2, VTAM, TSO. Intent was to be able to
  run some storage jobs against the zFSs.
 
  We're facing the problem that jobs we submit are hanging in status
 Awaiting
  Conversion. We've done all sorts of displays and checks, especially
  all
 that is
  mentioned in the elder JES2 Level2 Bit Bucket.
 
  The 4 converter PCEs are idle, there is no (visible) GRS contention.
 Started
  tsks and TSO logons are working.
 
  Any idea what to look for?
 
  --
  Peter Hunkeler
 
 

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