Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-26 Thread amit
hi Saurabh,

 did you have chance to check TechSol india?

regards,
Amit
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote:

 At share there was an IBMer who was requesting what classes we need for
 mainframe.  So we provided a large list.

 Also, there will be in the Share.org Proceedings section some good
 Handouts on Sysplex Trouble shooting, GRS and a couple of other interesting
 areas

 You may wish (if you are a ember) to download them and see if they can
 help.

 Lizette

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 Here is some information passed on from an IBM trainer in DFW:

 John,

 I did include a very high level overview of Parallel Sysplex at one time.
  However, it was removed from the class.  A victim of too much information
 in the 5 day period.

 I recommend the following:

 http://www.slideshare.net/ggddggddggdd/parallel-sysplex-implement2

 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246485.pdf

 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246523.pdf

 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247817.pdf

 Paul Newton
 IBM Software  Systems

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 http://www.interskill.com/course-catalog/Related-Parallel-Sysplex.html

 That looks pretty basic, perhaps not much new to the OP from reading his
 posts thus far.  I am suspect of any online training beyond a rudimentary
 understanding.  A key component of the Parallel Sysplex Implementation
 course is lab exercises.  Though I took only the Implementation course, the
 same is true for the Operations and Recovery courses.

 It's not a matter of how he grasps the husk, it's a simple matter of
 weight ratios.

 Sorry...it's Friday.  I believe the difficulty lies not in proximity, but
 rather to logistics and capacity.  To wit, many operate their systems
 remotely, and indeed it does not matter whether it is 5m or 500Km.  The
 issue lies in coordinating an online course with machine time.  Not saying
 it cannot be done, but it is likely cost-prohibitive, perhaps to the point
 of washing out any savings in travel costs.

 If you really want to learn it and be able to support your organization,
 you must insist that management send you to class (I have seen Parallel
 Sysplex courses hosted in Europe and elsewhere), or bring the class to you
 (which is only practical if you have a large enough staff or you can share
 the cost with other companies in your region).  If they won't relent, well,
 it might be time to find a boss who sets you (and them) up for success
 rather than failure.

 Just sayin...

 Regards,
 Art Gutowski
 Compuware Corporation

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Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-14 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello Timothy,
   I have put enough effort to search Parallel
Sysplex training in institute based out of India, however nobody runs these
classes. Even IBM training dept are not open to schedule public batches for
this subject.

I will surely contact
http://idcp.marist.edu/enterprisesystemseducation/zosprogramoverview.html
training team to see, if they can help me in this regards. I will keep you
updated.


Regards
Saurabh

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Timothy Sipples 
timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 Is Marist's z/OS education a good fit for the Parallel Sysplex content?

 http://idcp.marist.edu/enterprisesystemseducation/zosprogramoverview.html

 I'm guessing the original poster is based in India. There are some
 z/OS-equipped training institutes in India that IBM should know about, so
 I'd also make inquiries there.


 
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Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-13 Thread Jim Marshall
Not to plug Peter Enrico's new Parallel Sysplex available class, but if I was 
new to Sysplex, it would be worth the money to sit at the feet (as close as a 
Web session could get me) of the Master.   Here some info I got late last week. 



The purpose of this email is to remind you about my 2012 seminar / workshop 
schedule, and to also tell you about the availability of the presentation 
slides from my June SHARE Webcast.
 

My 2012 classes include two important changes. First is that I will be offering 
my Parallel Sysplex performance workshop as an online / web based class. 
Hopefully many of you that could not attend classes due to travel and budget 
restrictions will be able to attend my web based class. The class is still 
interactive with live lecturing, and there is still lots of in-class analysis. 
The second change is that I have enhanced my classes with more analysis 
exercises. I have worked to ensure that all my classes provide you with a 
strong opportunity to conduct an analysis on your own data. This is so you 
leave class not only having learned about z/OS performance, but having done an 
analysis with your own data on your own WLM Service Definition, z/OS systems, 
and Sysplexes. 

You will leave our classes having done an actual performance analysis based on 
your own data! No other z/OS performance seminar or z/OS conference can offer 
the level of analysis and value you will gain in our workshops. 

for more information contact Peter Enrico,  peter.enr...@epstrategies.com
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Jim Marshall,   Long time Admirer and attentive listener. 

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Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-13 Thread Art Gutowski
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:00:38 +0530, saurabh khandelwal 
sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote:
   I checked with interskill but they don't have
advanced course. for parallel sysplex they just have basic one, which
doesn't include any setup and system programmer stuff.
   Because of cost, we have issue in getting travel
approval. Can you please help me finding any virtual class session.

I'm sorry, but for online training, I haven't found anything beyond the basics, 
such as what Interskill provides.  

Perhaps as Lizette posted, SHARE (www.share.org) could set something up in the 
not-too-distant future.  Something along the lines of the Assembler Boot Camp - 
if only they had gotten a good recording of all five sessions :( - would be 
fantastic.  I should think zNextGen would be the best host for such a 
project.  If you're not a member, talk to your management about becoming one.  
I understand cost is an issue, but in my experience, the ROI is off the charts. 
 At least establish a non-member account so you have access to public content 
and forums.

Regards,
Art Gutowski
Compuware Corporation

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Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-13 Thread Art Gutowski
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:52:57 -0500, Jim Marshall jim.marsh...@opm.gov wrote:
Not to plug Peter Enrico's new Parallel Sysplex available class, but if I was 
new to Sysplex, it would be worth the money to sit at the feet (as close as a 
Web session could get me) of the Master.   Here some info I got late last 
week. 

Not to take anything away from Peter Enrico (SHARE sessions and panel 
discussions he led helped me immensely at previous shops; in fact he was 
contracted to help optimize performance at a prior employer), but his focus is 
performance.  Saurabh is looking for more...

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:00:38 +0530, saurabh khandelwal 
sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote:
   I checked with interskill but they don't have
advanced course. for parallel sysplex they just have basic one, which
doesn't include any setup and system programmer stuff.

I have yet to find any virtual training that meets this need.

Regards,
Art Gutowski
Compuware Corporation

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Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-10 Thread Ravi Kumar.C.Gowda
Sourabh,

I doubt if there is any organization across the world which organize a
Parallel Sysplex training specific.. I would say either you have to read
for urself or look at someone who is experienced and if they r interested
to guide.. And i dont believe it as a tough subject to read and
understand..

Regards,
Ravi
On Aug 10, 2012 9:28 AM, saurabh khandelwal 
sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Group,
 Please help me to find this online training.
 Awaiting for your response.

 Regards
 Saurabh

 On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:50 PM, saurabh khandelwal 
 sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello Group,
 Do we have any training organization in USA which
  provide online Parallel Sysplex training.  Any pointer will be helpful.
 
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Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-10 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello Ravi,
I have gone through many of the syspelx manual and have
basic knowledge. But still I am looking for official training to clear my
understanding and get expertise .  you looks to be sysplex expert, so can
you share some document, if you have.

Regards
Saurabh

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Ravi Kumar.C.Gowda rkcgowda1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sourabh,

 I doubt if there is any organization across the world which organize a
 Parallel Sysplex training specific.. I would say either you have to read
 for urself or look at someone who is experienced and if they r interested
 to guide.. And i dont believe it as a tough subject to read and
 understand..

 Regards,
 Ravi
 On Aug 10, 2012 9:28 AM, saurabh khandelwal 
 sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello Group,
  Please help me to find this online training.
  Awaiting for your response.
 
  Regards
  Saurabh
 
  On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:50 PM, saurabh khandelwal 
  sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hello Group,
  Do we have any training organization in USA
 which
   provide online Parallel Sysplex training.  Any pointer will be helpful.
  
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Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-10 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-08-10 08:26, Ravi Kumar.C.Gowda pisze:
 Sourabh,
 
 I doubt if there is any organization across the world which organize a
 Parallel Sysplex training specific.

Maybe except IBM ...and few others.
See IBM Learning Services. You should find several courses related to
Parallel Sysplex. The courses do include hands-on training.

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Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-10 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
saurabh khandelwal wrote:

Yes, I checked for IBM learning. But there is no online classes available for 
parallel sysplex.

Well, did you checked with your LOCAL IBMer?

 If you come across any one of training orgnization, please share detail.

There are kind trainers lurking on IBM-MAIN.

Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

I confirmed there are PS classes, not necessarily ONLINE classes.

Yup. There are lots of classes and courses for all things the big blue is 
selling. 

I've never checked IBM offering for online courses because I consider such 
method of learning as much worse than regular course.

Agreed, now speculating but it could be that online courses are then be only 
method of skill transfer in the future.

I used to travel to take a class, i.e. to LA or San Francisco - it's far, far 
away from my home ;-)

... and far, far away from mother-in-law and picky bosses. ;-D

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Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-10 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello Elardus,
  I have checked with local IBM training dept.
But they don't conduct any public batches for these classes. Also we don't
have any third party training vendor, who can help in this training. So
request you to provide provide me any information you have for  recognized
Online/Virtual training classes.

Regards
Saurabh

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:

 saurabh khandelwal wrote:

 Yes, I checked for IBM learning. But there is no online classes available
 for parallel sysplex.

 Well, did you checked with your LOCAL IBMer?

  If you come across any one of training orgnization, please share detail.

 There are kind trainers lurking on IBM-MAIN.

 Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

 I confirmed there are PS classes, not necessarily ONLINE classes.

 Yup. There are lots of classes and courses for all things the big blue is
 selling.

 I've never checked IBM offering for online courses because I consider
 such method of learning as much worse than regular course.

 Agreed, now speculating but it could be that online courses are then be
 only method of skill transfer in the future.

 I used to travel to take a class, i.e. to LA or San Francisco - it's far,
 far away from my home ;-)

 ... and far, far away from mother-in-law and picky bosses. ;-D

 Groete / Greetings
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Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-10 Thread Roger W. Suhr
Hi Saurabh,

I would think that virtual SYSPLEX training would be very difficult to
provide, since you would need access to HMC hardware consoles and other
equipment (at least one system z machine where you could define a coupling
facility and multiple LPARS with access to DASD and TAPE subsystems, to
really manipulate a sysplex.  It's not something you could mass-market
either.  There is only a very limited audience.  Then to exploit the
capabilities of a sysplex you need a number of specialty skills, like DB2
and CICS administrator and systems programmer skills.  This would be a very
expensive undertaking and I believe that is why there isn't much formalized
training available.  Most training on real SYSPLEXES is done On The JOB
with an experienced team.

Of course that is only my opinion!

Roger

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Subject: Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

Hello Elardus,
  I have checked with local IBM training dept.
But they don't conduct any public batches for these classes. Also we don't
have any third party training vendor, who can help in this training. So
request you to provide provide me any information you have for  recognized
Online/Virtual training classes.

Regards
Saurabh

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:

 saurabh khandelwal wrote:

 Yes, I checked for IBM learning. But there is no online classes 
 available
 for parallel sysplex.

 Well, did you checked with your LOCAL IBMer?

  If you come across any one of training orgnization, please share detail.

 There are kind trainers lurking on IBM-MAIN.

 Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

 I confirmed there are PS classes, not necessarily ONLINE classes.

 Yup. There are lots of classes and courses for all things the big blue 
 is selling.

 I've never checked IBM offering for online courses because I consider
 such method of learning as much worse than regular course.

 Agreed, now speculating but it could be that online courses are then 
 be only method of skill transfer in the future.

 I used to travel to take a class, i.e. to LA or San Francisco - it's 
 far,
 far away from my home ;-)

 ... and far, far away from mother-in-law and picky bosses. ;-D

 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-10 Thread William Bishop
Try http://www.verhoef-training.com/

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Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-10 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello Rroger,

I  have system programming skill as well as little administration knowledge
on  cics and db2.  I have read many redbook on this and started working.
But still wanted to attend official class a clear basics and get more
knowledge . If you come across any such training organization then please
pass on.

Rregards
Saurabh
On Aug 10, 2012 6:12 PM, Roger W. Suhr suhr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Saurabh,

 I would think that virtual SYSPLEX training would be very difficult to
 provide, since you would need access to HMC hardware consoles and other
 equipment (at least one system z machine where you could define a coupling
 facility and multiple LPARS with access to DASD and TAPE subsystems, to
 really manipulate a sysplex.  It's not something you could mass-market
 either.  There is only a very limited audience.  Then to exploit the
 capabilities of a sysplex you need a number of specialty skills, like DB2
 and CICS administrator and systems programmer skills.  This would be a very
 expensive undertaking and I believe that is why there isn't much formalized
 training available.  Most training on real SYSPLEXES is done On The JOB
 with an experienced team.

 Of course that is only my opinion!

 Roger

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 Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:58 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

 Hello Elardus,
   I have checked with local IBM training dept.
 But they don't conduct any public batches for these classes. Also we don't
 have any third party training vendor, who can help in this training. So
 request you to provide provide me any information you have for  recognized
 Online/Virtual training classes.

 Regards
 Saurabh

 On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
 elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:

  saurabh khandelwal wrote:
 
  Yes, I checked for IBM learning. But there is no online classes
  available
  for parallel sysplex.
 
  Well, did you checked with your LOCAL IBMer?
 
   If you come across any one of training orgnization, please share
 detail.
 
  There are kind trainers lurking on IBM-MAIN.
 
  Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
 
  I confirmed there are PS classes, not necessarily ONLINE classes.
 
  Yup. There are lots of classes and courses for all things the big blue
  is selling.
 
  I've never checked IBM offering for online courses because I consider
  such method of learning as much worse than regular course.
 
  Agreed, now speculating but it could be that online courses are then
  be only method of skill transfer in the future.
 
  I used to travel to take a class, i.e. to LA or San Francisco - it's
  far,
  far away from my home ;-)
 
  ... and far, far away from mother-in-law and picky bosses. ;-D
 
  Groete / Greetings
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Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-10 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-08-10 14:31, Roger W. Suhr pisze:
 Hi Saurabh,
 
 I would think that virtual SYSPLEX training would be very difficult to
 provide, since you would need access to HMC hardware consoles and other
 equipment (at least one system z machine where you could define a coupling
 facility and multiple LPARS with access to DASD and TAPE subsystems, to
 really manipulate a sysplex.  It's not something you could mass-market
 either.  There is only a very limited audience.  Then to exploit the
 capabilities of a sysplex you need a number of specialty skills, like DB2
 and CICS administrator and systems programmer skills.  This would be a very
 expensive undertaking and I believe that is why there isn't much formalized
 training available.  Most training on real SYSPLEXES is done On The JOB
 with an experienced team.
 
 Of course that is only my opinion!

Well, during my on-site PS course I had no reason to touch any local
equipment like HMC or SE.
All excercise well done using remote access. It was 30m apart from
server room, but it could be 300km as well.
Oh, we used several physical CPCs, a lot of LPARs, CFs, CPs. Very rich
configuration.

During my job I touch HMC or physical consoles mostly during its
physical setup. The rest is being done using remote access.


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Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-10 Thread Freddy Guevara
Hi,

you might want to take a look at this one from Interskill.

http://www.interskill.com/course-catalog/Related-Parallel-Sysplex.html

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Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
At share there was an IBMer who was requesting what classes we need for 
mainframe.  So we provided a large list.

Also, there will be in the Share.org Proceedings section some good Handouts on 
Sysplex Trouble shooting, GRS and a couple of other interesting areas

You may wish (if you are a ember) to download them and see if they can help.

Lizette

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of John Weber
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 9:07 AM
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Subject: Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

Here is some information passed on from an IBM trainer in DFW:

John,

I did include a very high level overview of Parallel Sysplex at one time.  
However, it was removed from the class.  A victim of too much information in 
the 5 day period.

I recommend the following:

http://www.slideshare.net/ggddggddggdd/parallel-sysplex-implement2

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246485.pdf

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246523.pdf

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247817.pdf

Paul Newton
IBM Software  Systems

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http://www.interskill.com/course-catalog/Related-Parallel-Sysplex.html

That looks pretty basic, perhaps not much new to the OP from reading his posts 
thus far.  I am suspect of any online training beyond a rudimentary 
understanding.  A key component of the Parallel Sysplex Implementation course 
is lab exercises.  Though I took only the Implementation course, the same is 
true for the Operations and Recovery courses.

It's not a matter of how he grasps the husk, it's a simple matter of weight 
ratios.  

Sorry...it's Friday.  I believe the difficulty lies not in proximity, but 
rather to logistics and capacity.  To wit, many operate their systems remotely, 
and indeed it does not matter whether it is 5m or 500Km.  The issue lies in 
coordinating an online course with machine time.  Not saying it cannot be done, 
but it is likely cost-prohibitive, perhaps to the point of washing out any 
savings in travel costs.  

If you really want to learn it and be able to support your organization, you 
must insist that management send you to class (I have seen Parallel Sysplex 
courses hosted in Europe and elsewhere), or bring the class to you (which is 
only practical if you have a large enough staff or you can share the cost with 
other companies in your region).  If they won't relent, well, it might be time 
to find a boss who sets you (and them) up for success rather than failure.

Just sayin...

Regards,
Art Gutowski
Compuware Corporation

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Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-09 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello Group,
   Do we have any training organization in USA which
provide online Parallel Sysplex training.  Any pointer will be helpful.

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Saurabh Khandelwal

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