Re: Default OMVS segment

2014-02-14 Thread venkat kulkarni
Hello,
 I am trying to setup BPX.UNIQUE.USER.


While upgrading RACf template, I am getting below issues.

//RACFAIM JOB (657),'VENKAT',CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=X,NOTIFY=SYSUID
//STEP EXEC PGM=IRRIRA00,PARM=STAGE(3)
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*



 IRR66017I The system is currently operating in stage 2.
 IRR66016I Unexpected RACF manager return code deleting entry G0 in class
UNIXMAAP. Return code 80. Reason code 0.


80 (128) This is a data sharing mode return code. A coupling facility
function had a problem when dealing with the ICB

Can anybody help.


Regards



On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.comwrote:

 BPX.DEFAULT.USER is ignored in z/OS 2.1. This has widely been reported in
 IBM announcements
 The Migration Guide and this forum.

 Check the archives.

 Your choices are:
 1) create the OMVS segment for this user manually.
 2) Set up the BPX.UNIQUE.USER/BPX.NEXT.USER environment as described in
 the manuals.

 HTH,


 snip

On  newly installed z/OS 2.1 system we experiencing
 OMVS segment not defined issue

 $HASP373 EZAZSSI  STARTED
 ICH408I JOB(OSNMPD  ) STEP(OSNMPD  ) CL(PROCESS ) 807
   OMVS SEGMENT NOT DEFINED

 etc...

 We already defined Steps for setting up default OMVS segments.

 /snip

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Re: Default OMVS segment

2014-02-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
You should join the RACF Group and ask this question.  That group could be
more helpful.

Second, go to Robert Hansel's website.  He has many RACF Papers that may
help.
http://www.rshconsulting.com/racfres.htm


I would also review the following SHARE presentation as well
https://share.confex.com/share/121/webprogram/Session13846.html


And the z/OS V2.1 Migration Guide
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/e0z2m192.pdf
Section:  z/OS UNIX actions to perform before installing z/OS V2R1

Use the BPX.UNIQUE.USER profile instead of
BPX.DEFAULT.USER
Description
: Before z/OS V1R11, if the BPX.DEFAULT.USER profile in the
FACILITY class was defined, users who accessed z/OS UNIX services who did
not
have an OMVS user or group segment were assigned the default OMVS segments
for the length of the user session. All users of the default OMVS segments
shared
the same UID and GID. As of z/OS V1R11, if BPX.UNIQUE.USER has been
defined, users who access z/OS UNIX services who do not have an OMVS user or
group segment are automatically assigned an OMVS segment with a unique UID
and GID. The new OMVS segments are added to the user and group profiles in 
the RACF database. As of z/OS V2R1 BPX.DEFAULT.USER has been removed.


You may need IBM's assistance because of the shared downward leveled
systems, to make it work in your shop.  So if you are sharing with z/OS
V1.13 and V1.12, then you should be able to do what you need in z/OS V2.1
and  convert your lower level systems to use the same process.

I am not sure if z/OS V2.1 has some STCs that require an OMVS segment or
not.  The OSMPD may require a valid OMVS Segment. Check the V2.1
Communication Server manuals or the RACF manuals.


Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:51 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Default OMVS segment
 
 Yes, z/OS V1.13 is planned to be the last release to support
 *BPX.DEFAULT.USER*.  IBM recommends that we either use the
 BPX.UNIQUE.USER support that was introduced in z/OS V1.11,  or assign
unique
 UIDs to users who need them and assign GIDs for their groups.
 
 I found below link to enable BPX.UNIQUE.USER support
 

http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r
12.ic
 ha700%2Fautosvc.htm
 
 But as I mentioned, we  share the RACF database with downlevel systems, So
as
 per this link  we  can enable automatic assignment of unique IDs on our
current
 systems and enable default OMVS segment processing on our downlevel
systems.
 In this situation, the two methods can coexist.
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Paul Gilmartin
 paulgboul...@aim.comwrote:
 
  On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:25:54 +0530, venkat kulkarni wrote:
 
  Hello,
 On  newly installed z/OS 2.1 system we
  experiencing
  OMVS
  segment not defined issue
  
  $HASP373 EZAZSSI  STARTED
  ICH408I JOB(OSNMPD  ) STEP(OSNMPD  ) CL(PROCESS ) 807
OMVS SEGMENT NOT DEFINED
  
  etc...
  
  
  
  We already defined Steps for setting up default OMVS segments.
  
  
  http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm
  .zos.r12.icha700%2Fdefomvs.htm
  
  Hmmm... You appear to be reading the 1.12 documentation attempting to
  configure a 2.1 system.  I have heard mumblings that the default OMVS
  system is deprecated; near end-of-life.
 
  In the corresponding 2.1 document:
 
 
  http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/topic/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.icha
  700/russ.htm
 
  ... I see no mention of a default OMVS segment.  Perhaps IBM finally
  got rid of the wretched thing.
 
  -- gil
 

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Re: Default OMVS segment

2014-02-11 Thread John Eells

venkat kulkarni wrote:

Yes, z/OS V1.13 is planned to be the last release to support
*BPX.DEFAULT.USER*.  IBM recommends that we either use the BPX.UNIQUE.USER
support that was introduced in z/OS V1.11,
  or assign unique UIDs to users who need them and assign GIDs for their
groups.

snip

Of course, if you are already using BPX.NEXT.USER, you can either 
continue using that, or choose to convert to BPX.UNIQUE.USER.  If you 
have implemented neither one, UNIQUE is the way to go.


One additional note is that NEXT requires the RACF DB to be at AIM stage 
2, while UNIQUE requires AIM stage 3.  (Both have been around a Long 
Time.)  There's a not-so-new health check for AIM stage 3, that was 
added for z/OS R12 with UA64936 and for z/OS R13 with UA64937 in April 
2012, and a related check to see whether UIDs will be automatically 
assigned.


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Re: Default OMVS segment

2014-02-11 Thread Staller, Allan
BPX.DEFAULT.USER is ignored in z/OS 2.1. This has widely been reported in IBM 
announcements
The Migration Guide and this forum.

Check the archives.

Your choices are: 
1) create the OMVS segment for this user manually.
2) Set up the BPX.UNIQUE.USER/BPX.NEXT.USER environment as described in the 
manuals.

HTH,


snip

   On  newly installed z/OS 2.1 system we experiencing OMVS 
segment not defined issue

$HASP373 EZAZSSI  STARTED
ICH408I JOB(OSNMPD  ) STEP(OSNMPD  ) CL(PROCESS ) 807
  OMVS SEGMENT NOT DEFINED

etc...

We already defined Steps for setting up default OMVS segments.

/snip

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Re: Default OMVS segment

2014-02-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:25:54 +0530, venkat kulkarni wrote:

Hello,
   On  newly installed z/OS 2.1 system we experiencing OMVS
segment not defined issue

$HASP373 EZAZSSI  STARTED
ICH408I JOB(OSNMPD  ) STEP(OSNMPD  ) CL(PROCESS ) 807
  OMVS SEGMENT NOT DEFINED

etc...



We already defined Steps for setting up default OMVS segments.

http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r12.icha700%2Fdefomvs.htm
 
Hmmm... You appear to be reading the 1.12 documentation attempting to
configure a 2.1 system.  I have heard mumblings that the default OMVS
system is deprecated; near end-of-life.

In the corresponding 2.1 document:


http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/topic/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.icha700/russ.htm
 

... I see no mention of a default OMVS segment.  Perhaps IBM finally got rid of
the wretched thing.

-- gil

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Re: Default OMVS segment

2014-02-10 Thread venkat kulkarni
Yes, z/OS V1.13 is planned to be the last release to support
*BPX.DEFAULT.USER*.  IBM recommends that we either use the BPX.UNIQUE.USER
support that was introduced in z/OS V1.11,
 or assign unique UIDs to users who need them and assign GIDs for their
groups.

I found below link to enable BPX.UNIQUE.USER support

http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r12.icha700%2Fautosvc.htm

But as I mentioned, we  share the RACF database with downlevel systems, So
as per this link  we  can enable automatic assignment of unique IDs on our
current systems and enable default OMVS segment processing on our downlevel
systems. In this situation, the two methods can coexist.




On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote:

 On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:25:54 +0530, venkat kulkarni wrote:

 Hello,
On  newly installed z/OS 2.1 system we experiencing
 OMVS
 segment not defined issue
 
 $HASP373 EZAZSSI  STARTED
 ICH408I JOB(OSNMPD  ) STEP(OSNMPD  ) CL(PROCESS ) 807
   OMVS SEGMENT NOT DEFINED
 
 etc...
 
 
 
 We already defined Steps for setting up default OMVS segments.
 
 
 http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r12.icha700%2Fdefomvs.htm
 
 Hmmm... You appear to be reading the 1.12 documentation attempting to
 configure a 2.1 system.  I have heard mumblings that the default OMVS
 system is deprecated; near end-of-life.

 In the corresponding 2.1 document:


 http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/topic/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.icha700/russ.htm

 ... I see no mention of a default OMVS segment.  Perhaps IBM finally got
 rid of
 the wretched thing.

 -- gil

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