Re: IBM Mainframe JOB market
Steve Beaver wrote "And I cover all zOS Systems, ACF2, RACF, TSS, CICS, DB2, IMS/DB-DC, Cobol, PL/I and Assembler." I HATE THIS ! This is not a software specialist - it is a software Inventory I have been known to respond to recruiters like this. And Yes the recruiters take too much, it partially due to out sources from other counteries bidding too low on contracts. They do not play by the same rules as the US contracters - so how can one compete ? . . -- Original Message -- From: Steve Beaver To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Mainframe JOB market Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:15:02 -0800 It's not the business doesn't want to pay. The middle men/head hunters want to keep a 2.5 to 1 ratio If they pay you $60 they charge the customer $150. I've also told these middle men/head hunters, unless you Personally can to the job you can have $30 per hour and I will take the $120 and they get more that a little Upset. And I cover all zOS Systems, ACF2, RACF, TSS, CICS, DB2, IMS/DB-DC, Cobol, PL/I and Assembler. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of esst...@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Mainframe JOB market We had a 71 Year old z/OS System Programmer take an early retirement package. After 6 Months he was bored, so he took a contracting position with an IBM customer. He lives in New Jersey and the data center is in Florida. There is plenty of work around its just that Business don't want to PAY $$. -- Original Message -- From: David Speake To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM Mainframe JOB market Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 17:38:31 -0600 Last Friday I was told that there is a desperate shortage of IBM mainframe talent at most all skill levels and specialties. I have not done my homework, say on Monster.com or otherwise. Suspect that, if true, it would be a hot topic here. So I scanned rather quickly through October and November archives. Any comment on this rumor. I am 71 years old and the same source cheered me a bit by noting that a local outfit had very recently hired an 81 year old COBOL programmer. No info on his experience nor more importantly his skill level. A Good friend, also 71, retired and then lost his entire retirement in failed business venture. Hope the rumor is true. Job security for those of us that still have them and maybe hope for him and some of the others less fortunate. Sorry, got distracted just before sending previous post. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Mainframe JOB market
It's not the business doesn't want to pay. The middle men/head hunters want to keep a 2.5 to 1 ratio If they pay you $60 they charge the customer $150. I've also told these middle men/head hunters, unless you Personally can to the job you can have $30 per hour and I will take the $120 and they get more that a little Upset. And I cover all zOS Systems, ACF2, RACF, TSS, CICS, DB2, IMS/DB-DC, Cobol, PL/I and Assembler. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of esst...@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Mainframe JOB market We had a 71 Year old z/OS System Programmer take an early retirement package. After 6 Months he was bored, so he took a contracting position with an IBM customer. He lives in New Jersey and the data center is in Florida. There is plenty of work around its just that Business don't want to PAY $$. -- Original Message -- From: David Speake To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM Mainframe JOB market Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 17:38:31 -0600 Last Friday I was told that there is a desperate shortage of IBM mainframe talent at most all skill levels and specialties. I have not done my homework, say on Monster.com or otherwise. Suspect that, if true, it would be a hot topic here. So I scanned rather quickly through October and November archives. Any comment on this rumor. I am 71 years old and the same source cheered me a bit by noting that a local outfit had very recently hired an 81 year old COBOL programmer. No info on his experience nor more importantly his skill level. A Good friend, also 71, retired and then lost his entire retirement in failed business venture. Hope the rumor is true. Job security for those of us that still have them and maybe hope for him and some of the others less fortunate. Sorry, got distracted just before sending previous post. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Mainframe JOB market
We had a 71 Year old z/OS System Programmer take an early retirement package. After 6 Months he was bored, so he took a contracting position with an IBM customer. He lives in New Jersey and the data center is in Florida. There is plenty of work around its just that Business don't want to PAY $$. -- Original Message -- From: David Speake To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM Mainframe JOB market Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 17:38:31 -0600 Last Friday I was told that there is a desperate shortage of IBM mainframe talent at most all skill levels and specialties. I have not done my homework, say on Monster.com or otherwise. Suspect that, if true, it would be a hot topic here. So I scanned rather quickly through October and November archives. Any comment on this rumor. I am 71 years old and the same source cheered me a bit by noting that a local outfit had very recently hired an 81 year old COBOL programmer. No info on his experience nor more importantly his skill level. A Good friend, also 71, retired and then lost his entire retirement in failed business venture. Hope the rumor is true. Job security for those of us that still have them and maybe hope for him and some of the others less fortunate. Sorry, got distracted just before sending previous post. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
