Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

2019-11-21 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Try get who enqueues ADMSYMBL dataset, or any other commonly (but
centrally) used dataset which is outside the linklist or lpalist.

ITschak

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:07 PM Jerome Benting  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Does anybody have a quick and easy way to identify how many possible 3270
> GDDM users / sessions are logged in at any time?
>
> I need to try and identify as close to correct as possible how many GDDM
> users there are in a rather large 3270 user community.
>
> Rgds.
>
> Jerome
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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

2019-11-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
No, but you can identify how many are currently using GDDM. Is that good enough 
for your purposes?


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Hi All,

Does anybody have a quick and easy way to identify how many possible 3270 GDDM 
users / sessions are logged in at any time?

I need to try and identify as close to correct as possible how many GDDM users 
there are in a rather large 3270 user community.

Rgds.

Jerome

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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

2019-11-21 Thread Jerome Benting
That will be helpful, I need an indicative amount.

How can I do best go about doing it?

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No, but you can identify how many are currently using GDDM. Is that good enough 
for your purposes?


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Hi All,

Does anybody have a quick and easy way to identify how many possible 3270 GDDM 
users / sessions are logged in at any time?

I need to try and identify as close to correct as possible how many GDDM users 
there are in a rather large 3270 user community.

Rgds.

Jerome

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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

2019-11-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
As ITschak Mugzach wrote, "Try get who enqueues ADMSYMBL dataset, or any other 
commonly (but centrally) used dataset which is outside the linklist or 
lpalist." Just remember that there may be users of GDDM who are not using it 
when you look at the ENQs.


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That will be helpful, I need an indicative amount.

How can I do best go about doing it?

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

No, but you can identify how many are currently using GDDM. Is that good enough 
for your purposes?


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Subject: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

Hi All,

Does anybody have a quick and easy way to identify how many possible 3270 GDDM 
users / sessions are logged in at any time?

I need to try and identify as close to correct as possible how many GDDM users 
there are in a rather large 3270 user community.

Rgds.

Jerome

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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

2019-11-21 Thread zMan
I read this as something about "goddamn users", which sorta made sense...

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 3:36 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> As ITschak Mugzach wrote, "Try get who enqueues ADMSYMBL dataset, or any
> other commonly (but centrally) used dataset which is outside the linklist
> or lpalist." Just remember that there may be users of GDDM who are not
> using it when you look at the ENQs.
>
>
> --
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> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Jerome Benting 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:23 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS
>
> That will be helpful, I need an indicative amount.
>
> How can I do best go about doing it?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:02 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS
>
> No, but you can identify how many are currently using GDDM. Is that good
> enough for your purposes?
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Jerome Benting 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:56 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS
>
> Hi All,
>
> Does anybody have a quick and easy way to identify how many possible 3270
> GDDM users / sessions are logged in at any time?
>
> I need to try and identify as close to correct as possible how many GDDM
> users there are in a rather large 3270 user community.
>
> Rgds.
>
> Jerome
>
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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

2019-11-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
For as long as I can remember I've pronounced GDDM that way, nor was I the only 
one.

For that matter, how do you pronounce IGDZILLA?


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Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:57 PM
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Subject: Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

I read this as something about "goddamn users", which sorta made sense...

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 3:36 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> As ITschak Mugzach wrote, "Try get who enqueues ADMSYMBL dataset, or any
> other commonly (but centrally) used dataset which is outside the linklist
> or lpalist." Just remember that there may be users of GDDM who are not
> using it when you look at the ENQs.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Jerome Benting 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:23 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS
>
> That will be helpful, I need an indicative amount.
>
> How can I do best go about doing it?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:02 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS
>
> No, but you can identify how many are currently using GDDM. Is that good
> enough for your purposes?
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Jerome Benting 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:56 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS
>
> Hi All,
>
> Does anybody have a quick and easy way to identify how many possible 3270
> GDDM users / sessions are logged in at any time?
>
> I need to try and identify as close to correct as possible how many GDDM
> users there are in a rather large 3270 user community.
>
> Rgds.
>
> Jerome
>
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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

2019-11-21 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Disable GDDM and see how many complain?

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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

2019-11-22 Thread Paul Weissman
Some years ago I had a related assignment, and found out that GDDM users were 
the same as QMF users.   I probably used SMF 14/15 records to identify them. 
It turns out that QMF requires a license for GDDM.   I wondered why, especially 
since I'd never seen any printer that was capable of printing graphics 
connected to the mainframe, terminal emulators on Windows PCs had replaced 
every IBM 327x terminal, and it wasn't like QMF users were aware of any such 
capability, much less showing off their fancy graphs.   Like everybody else I 
knew, if I wanted a graph or pie chart I downloaded the data and used Excel.  
Likewise with mainframe SAS & SAS/GRAPH.  
I did a little tinkering and found that QMF would not launch without GDDM, it 
failed instantly.   With GDDM, QMF would launch and display the initial 
"splash" screen. 
If anybody from IBM QMF is listening, please chime in.   It's been a while 
since I've worked in a shop with QMF or GDDM.

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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

2019-11-25 Thread Jon Perryman
 
On Thursday, November 21, 2019, 12:36:17 PM PST, Seymour J Metz 
 wrote:
 
 
 > As ITschak Mugzach wrote, "Try get who enqueues ADMSYMBL dataset, 
>or any other commonly (but centrally) used dataset which is outside the 
>linklist
> or lpalist." Just remember that there may be users of GDDM who are not using 
> it when you look at the ENQs.


Enqueues not work for CICS and IMS users of GDDM. 


If usage pricing for GDDM is supported, then maybe their tool will give you 
this information or tell you how to extract this information.

Another possibility is to look at the GDDM customization manual and diagnostics 
manual. Maybe there is an exit, trace or diagnostic tool to get this 
information.

I believe that graphical terminals require a special VTAM logmode. If so, maybe 
you could use Omegamon VTAM to get connected terminals with those log modes.

Jon.

I believe that GDDM has exits. You could look at implementing one of them to 
keep count.

Jon.  

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