Re: Loadlib compare utility

2014-05-13 Thread Ward, Mike S
Thanks, I'll look into it.

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On 5/9/2014 12:47 PM, Lucas Rosalen wrote:
> File #182 on CBTTape shows you module sizes, linkage date, etc... then 
> you can run the "old" loadlib thru the same process and compare 
> yourself. I'm not aware if it can really compare for you, but you can 
> get a comparison yourself out of it for sure.

I have a copy of something called LOADCOMP in CBT file 860, but haven't used it 
in ages. It has minor mods, and has comments:

  AUTHOR:  LOU P. RIVAS  -  UCLA/CCN.JUNE 1977
  PROGRAM COMPARE FROM CB&T TAPE FILE 149

That file is in the old MVS tapes section of the CBT. The program loads both 
modules, reading with BSAM and fudging relocation, so it won't work for PDS/Es?

Gerhard Postpischil
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Re: Loadlib compare utility

2014-05-10 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

On 5/9/2014 12:47 PM, Lucas Rosalen wrote:

File #182 on CBTTape shows you module sizes, linkage date, etc... then you
can run the "old" loadlib thru the same process and compare yourself. I'm
not aware if it can really compare for you, but you can get a comparison
yourself out of it for sure.


I have a copy of something called LOADCOMP in CBT file 860, but haven't 
used it in ages. It has minor mods, and has comments:


 AUTHOR:  LOU P. RIVAS  -  UCLA/CCN.JUNE 1977
 PROGRAM COMPARE FROM CB&T TAPE FILE 149

That file is in the old MVS tapes section of the CBT. The program loads 
both modules, reading with BSAM and fudging relocation, so it won't work 
for PDS/Es?


Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, Vermont

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Re: Loadlib compare utility

2014-05-09 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Hello Mike,

File #182 on CBTTape shows you module sizes, linkage date, etc... then you
can run the "old" loadlib thru the same process and compare yourself. I'm
not aware if it can really compare for you, but you can get a comparison
yourself out of it for sure.

Lucas


2014-05-09 12:45 GMT-03:00 Farley, Peter x23353 :

> A number of the commercial compare utilities can perform that function.  I
> know for a fact that Compuware's Comparex and Macro4's InSync can do this,
> and CA FileMaster may have that capability as well, not sure about that one.
>
> You can also get CBT file 321, COBANALZ, which will analyze a load library
> to determine the language and linkage information about load members.  You
> can compare the print output from COBANAL using SUPERC to see if there are
> different dates and/or members, but not detailed member contents.
>
> HTH
>
> Peter
>
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> > Subject: Loadlib compare utility
> >
> > Hello everyone, do any of you know of a utility that can compare 2
> > loadlibs with supposedly the same members and report if there is a
> > discrepancy in the modules, I.E. size of module, date of linking, that
> > type of thing?
> >
> > Thanks
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Re: Loadlib compare utility

2014-05-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
A number of the commercial compare utilities can perform that function.  I know 
for a fact that Compuware's Comparex and Macro4's InSync can do this, and CA 
FileMaster may have that capability as well, not sure about that one.

You can also get CBT file 321, COBANALZ, which will analyze a load library to 
determine the language and linkage information about load members.  You can 
compare the print output from COBANAL using SUPERC to see if there are 
different dates and/or members, but not detailed member contents.

HTH

Peter

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> 
> Hello everyone, do any of you know of a utility that can compare 2
> loadlibs with supposedly the same members and report if there is a
> discrepancy in the modules, I.E. size of module, date of linking, that
> type of thing?
> 
> Thanks
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Re: Loadlib compare utility

2014-05-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 9 May 2014 15:25:18 +, Staller, Allan wrote:

>SUPERC (ISRUPC) will do fine.  For the compare. It will easily identify any 
>member mis-matches as well as missing members. 
>It won't be very good at telling you what the differences are.
> 
Faced with such a problem once, we compared as text AMBLIST output
of two load modules.  This showed a few displacements were different;
one had been assembled with a downlevel MACLIB.  We were lucky;
usually it wouldn't be so easy.

-- gil

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Re: Loadlib compare utility

2014-05-09 Thread Staller, Allan
SUPERC (ISRUPC) will do fine.  For the compare. It will easily identify any 
member mis-matches as well as missing members. 
It won't be very good at telling you what the differences are.

HTH,

Al Staller | Z Systems Programmer | KBM Group | (Tel) 972 664-3565 | 
allan.stal...@kbmg.com


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Subject: Loadlib compare utility

Hello everyone, do any of you know of a utility that can compare 2 loadlibs 
with supposedly the same members and report if there is a discrepancy in the 
modules, I.E. size of module, date of linking, that type of thing?

Thanks

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