Re: SMF LRECL (was Re: SCRT input from z/OS 1.12 and 2.2)
I am surprised about what you and others reply, when I am referring to the discovery of America by Christoffel Columbus in 1492. And to my surprise there is actually no real article in the English and other Wikipedias about at, but an extensive one in the Dutch and German versions. Anyway, in Columbus' time, the church and other leaders said that the earth was flat and therefor it was the truth and if you sailed to the end, you would fall off. There were scientists that already knew/believed the earth was round and for that reason Columbus tried to find an easier and shorter way to the Indies by sailing west i.s.o. east and all the way around Cape Town. That is what I meant when I said, if we all obeyed the rules, we (Columbus) would never have discovered America. Of course others have discovered the continent already before him, but that was unknown at that time. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: 13 April, 2016 16:56 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMF LRECL (was Re: SCRT input from z/OS 1.12 and 2.2) On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 03:01:12 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: > >>I was actually referring to Columbus, sailing to the west in order to find a >>shorter way to the Indies, in spite of the 'rule' that he would reach the end >>of earth and fall off. > That "rule" was a fiction invented by Washington Irving according to a Scientific American article circa October, 1992. It was known for millennia that the earth is spherical and there were respectable estimates of its size. >Of course I later read some of those Terry Pratchet parodies, something about >a world sitting on giant elephants, all supported by a turtle. > Traditional Hindu mythology. What are the Dutch mythologies? https://xkcd.com/1498/ On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 01:05:00 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > >I was "raised and trained" to have all my SMF datasets to be of one LRECL, >usually 32760 or 32767 simply to avoid such nice abends later. Why can you >have different LRECLs for the SMF data as input [1]? Is there a reason (beside >device geometry) why you need different LRECLs for your SMF records? > 32767? But 32768 is a useful argument to BPXWDYN. Nowadays in a concatenation the greatest LRECL dominates. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMF LRECL (was Re: SCRT input from z/OS 1.12 and 2.2)
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 03:01:12 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: > >>I was actually referring to Columbus, sailing to the west in order to find a >>shorter way to the Indies, in spite of the 'rule' that he would reach the end >>of earth and fall off. > That "rule" was a fiction invented by Washington Irving according to a Scientific American article circa October, 1992. It was known for millennia that the earth is spherical and there were respectable estimates of its size. >Of course I later read some of those Terry Pratchet parodies, something about >a world sitting on giant elephants, all supported by a turtle. > Traditional Hindu mythology. What are the Dutch mythologies? https://xkcd.com/1498/ On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 01:05:00 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > >I was "raised and trained" to have all my SMF datasets to be of one LRECL, >usually 32760 or 32767 simply to avoid such nice abends later. Why can you >have different LRECLs for the SMF data as input [1]? Is there a reason (beside >device geometry) why you need different LRECLs for your SMF records? > 32767? But 32768 is a useful argument to BPXWDYN. Nowadays in a concatenation the greatest LRECL dominates. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMF LRECL (was Re: SCRT input from z/OS 1.12 and 2.2)
Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: >I was actually referring to Columbus, sailing to the west in order to find a >shorter way to the Indies, in spite of the 'rule' that he would reach the end >of earth and fall off. Reminds me of that little tongue-in-cheek club 'Flat Earth' ran by us young guys in school and student dorms. Boosted by lots of booze, we have listed reasons [1] why the earth was really really flat, pancake flat, not round. Posters with those 'reasons' were placed, but teared off by concerned adults thinking a weird cult has been brewing somewhere... ;-) Of course I later read some of those Terry Pratchet parodies, something about a world sitting on giant elephants, all supported by a turtle. ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht [1] - I wish I kept those funny 'reasons' for archival retrieval later, but I remember that we were really worried about the beer vats which will reach the end and then fall off without being emptied out by us... LOL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMF LRECL (was Re: SCRT input from z/OS 1.12 and 2.2)
I was actually referring to Columbus, sailing to the west in order to find a shorter way to the Indies, in spite of the 'rule' that he would reach the end of earth and fall off. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Finnell Sent: 13 April, 2016 9:19 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMF LRECL (was Re: SCRT input from z/OS 1.12 and 2.2) The History Channel had a piece on Jamestown excavation. It seems their first mission was to find a dependable source of sassafras a curative for syphilis which was rampant. In a message dated 4/13/2016 1:26:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, kees.verno...@klm.com writes: Well anyway, this is why we discovered America though. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMF LRECL (was Re: SCRT input from z/OS 1.12 and 2.2)
The History Channel had a piece on Jamestown excavation. It seems their first mission was to find a dependable source of sassafras a curative for syphilis which was rampant. In a message dated 4/13/2016 1:26:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, kees.verno...@klm.com writes: Well anyway, this is why we discovered America though. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMF LRECL (was Re: SCRT input from z/OS 1.12 and 2.2)
If it is not explicitly forbidden (and even then still) there will always be people that try it. Well anyway, this is why we discovered America though. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: 13 April, 2016 8:05 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SMF LRECL (was Re: SCRT input from z/OS 1.12 and 2.2) Al Sherkow wrote: >Today, 12 April 2016, a new release of the JAVA version of SCRT, now 23.13.2 >came out. One of the fixes resolves this issue: "This mod-level release fixes >an ABEND S02 when using multiple SMF datasets having different LRECLs." I was "raised and trained" to have all my SMF datasets to be of one LRECL, usually 32760 or 32767 simply to avoid such nice abends later. Why can you have different LRECLs for the SMF data as input [1]? Is there a reason (beside device geometry) why you need different LRECLs for your SMF records? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht [1] - All my SMF reading programs obtain the DCB details as they are from the dataset attributes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
