Re: Session Manager

[Seymour J Metz]

There's also D4C32XX.


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I think that the entry in the default IBM logmode table (ISTINCLM) is 
D4B32XX3



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Subject: Re: Session Manager

Screen size from host is determined by LOGMODE. If you can get to SDSF do a WHO 
command and it will show what you're being dealt. What you need is a LOGMODE 
with Query Bit on in PSERVIC. If it's allowed can do ===>LOGON 
applid(SES_MGR_APPLID) LOGMOD(D4B32xx) (I think that's a good one).


In a message dated 3/13/2018 3:19:27 AM Central Standard Time, 
bruce_hew...@hotmail.com writes:


Among the Session Managers I can use here, if I access using my favourite 
screen size 62x140 (which TSO/ISPF has no issue with), the Session Manager 
drops to Model-2 24x80. Possibly a constraint by product administrators. Even 
if I access using 62x160, a valid size for HOD emulator, it still drops to 
24x80.

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Re: Session Manager

[Cieri, Anthony]

I think that the entry in the default IBM logmode table (ISTINCLM) is 
D4B32XX3



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Subject: Re: Session Manager

Screen size from host is determined by LOGMODE. If you can get to SDSF do a WHO 
command and it will show what you're being dealt. What you need is a LOGMODE 
with Query Bit on in PSERVIC. If it's allowed can do ===>LOGON 
applid(SES_MGR_APPLID) LOGMOD(D4B32xx) (I think that's a good one).


In a message dated 3/13/2018 3:19:27 AM Central Standard Time, 
bruce_hew...@hotmail.com writes:

 
Among the Session Managers I can use here, if I access using my favourite 
screen size 62x140 (which TSO/ISPF has no issue with), the Session Manager 
drops to Model-2 24x80. Possibly a constraint by product administrators. Even 
if I access using 62x160, a valid size for HOD emulator, it still drops to 
24x80.

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Re: Session Manager

[Seymour J Metz]

Another thing that NVAS is to pass along the IP address. Back in the day it was 
the only one that did so; I'd be very surprised if that was still the case. If 
any vendors are reading this, does your product pass along the IP address?.


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Elardus Engelbrecht 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:45 AM
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Bruce Hewson wrote:

>Among the Session Managers I can use here, if I access using my favourite 
>screen size 62x140 (which TSO/ISPF has no issue with), the Session Manager 
>drops to Model-2 24x80. Possibly a constraint by product administrators. Even 
>if I access using 62x160, a valid size for HOD emulator, it still drops to 
>24x80.

Netview Access Services can do that too. Just setup your emulater to use the 
max size you want to use, say 3278 or 3279 and device model 3 (32x80) for 
example. Then what ever application you use, that largest screen it can handle 
is used. TSO can handle 32x80, but Netview Access only 24x80.

(I also like to use the 'extended attributes' for the 3278/3290 screens. Then 
my screens are looking 'nicer'. ;-)

Just my 2 cents...

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Session Manager

[Edward Finnell]

Screen size from host is determined by LOGMODE. If you can get to SDSF do a WHO 
command and it will show what you're being dealt. What you need is a LOGMODE 
with Query Bit on in PSERVIC. If it's allowed can do ===>LOGON 
applid(SES_MGR_APPLID) LOGMOD(D4B32xx) (I think that's a good one).


In a message dated 3/13/2018 3:19:27 AM Central Standard Time, 
bruce_hew...@hotmail.com writes:

 
Among the Session Managers I can use here, if I access using my favourite 
screen size 62x140 (which TSO/ISPF has no issue with), the Session Manager 
drops to Model-2 24x80. Possibly a constraint by product administrators. Even 
if I access using 62x160, a valid size for HOD emulator, it still drops to 
24x80.

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Re: Session Manager

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Bruce Hewson wrote:

>Among the Session Managers I can use here, if I access using my favourite 
>screen size 62x140 (which TSO/ISPF has no issue with), the Session Manager 
>drops to Model-2 24x80. Possibly a constraint by product administrators. Even 
>if I access using 62x160, a valid size for HOD emulator, it still drops to 
>24x80.

Netview Access Services can do that too. Just setup your emulater to use the 
max size you want to use, say 3278 or 3279 and device model 3 (32x80) for 
example. Then what ever application you use, that largest screen it can handle 
is used. TSO can handle 32x80, but Netview Access only 24x80.

(I also like to use the 'extended attributes' for the 3278/3290 screens. Then 
my screens are looking 'nicer'. ;-)

Just my 2 cents...

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Session Manager

[Steve Smith]

If your session manager can only do 24x80, then I hope it's free, because
it's almost worthless.  Lacking much information, my guess is that it's an
admin problem.  I was a systems programmer long ago, and supported VTAM,
TPX and NetView.  >20 years ago they had no issue with any screen size
(inc. e.g. 48 x 120, one I liked).

sas

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 4:18 AM, Bruce Hewson 
wrote:

> Hello Shmuel,
>
> Among the Session Managers I can use here, if I access using my favourite
> screen size 62x140 (which TSO/ISPF has no issue with), the Session Manager
> drops to Model-2 24x80. Possibly a constraint by product administrators.
> Even if I access using 62x160, a valid size for HOD emulator, it still
> drops to 24x80.
>

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Re: Session Manager

[Bruce Hewson]

Hello Shmuel,

Among the Session Managers I can use here, if I access using my favourite 
screen size 62x140 (which TSO/ISPF has no issue with), the Session Manager 
drops to Model-2 24x80. Possibly a constraint by product administrators. Even 
if I access using 62x160, a valid size for HOD emulator, it still drops to 
24x80.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 18:19:24 +, Seymour J Metz  wrote:

>Not all session managers restrict you to 24x80; in fact, I have never had the 
>misfortune to use one that did. Are you sure that it was a product limitation 
>and not a restriction decreed by your management?
>
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Regards
Bruce Hewson

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Re: Session Manager

[Seymour J Metz]

The second session was restricted only by what the application supported. In 
the case of TSO, models 2 through 5, 3290 and custom geometries were all 
supported; it's just a case of using the right logmode. In, e.g., TPX, you 
could use configure any screen geometry that TSO supported. 

You get the geometry from the Bind image, Read Partition - Query, or a 
combination. That's how you were able to use, e.g., a 3180, with a primary of 
43 and a secondary of 132.

Obviously I lucked out in the session managers I was exposed to.


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On 3/12/18, 2:19 PM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Seymour J 
Metz"  wrote:
> Not all session managers restrict you to 24x80; in fact, I have never had the 
> misfortune to use one that did. Are you sure that it was a product limitation
> and not a restriction decreed by your management?

In some ways it was a feature of the way VTAM worked, or at least a dramatic 
change in assumptions that came with programmable devices over classic dumb 
terminals; as I understand it, since you had two LU sessions in play 
(terminal-> session manager, session manager-> application), the second session 
was restricted to the lowest common denominator (24x80) if you wanted to 
support arbitrary incoming screen sizes because there was no way to pass actual 
terminal geometry to the second session without getting the information some 
other way. The telnet server skipped that limitation entirely and was smart 
enough to query the terminal and be able to pass the actual terminal geometry 
to the application.

Most of the session managers never really figured that one out, with a few 
notable exceptions.


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Re: Session Manager

[David Boyes]

On 3/12/18, 2:19 PM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Seymour J 
Metz"  wrote:
> Not all session managers restrict you to 24x80; in fact, I have never had the 
> misfortune to use one that did. Are you sure that it was a product limitation 
> and not a restriction decreed by your management?

In some ways it was a feature of the way VTAM worked, or at least a dramatic 
change in assumptions that came with programmable devices over classic dumb 
terminals; as I understand it, since you had two LU sessions in play 
(terminal-> session manager, session manager-> application), the second session 
was restricted to the lowest common denominator (24x80) if you wanted to 
support arbitrary incoming screen sizes because there was no way to pass actual 
terminal geometry to the second session without getting the information some 
other way. The telnet server skipped that limitation entirely and was smart 
enough to query the terminal and be able to pass the actual terminal geometry 
to the application. 

Most of the session managers never really figured that one out, with a few 
notable exceptions. 


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Re: Session Manager

[Martin Packer]

Right. And VPNs are so flaky you really need a session manager if you come 
in through one. I certainly do, anyway.

Cheers, Martin

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Date:   12/03/2018 18:06
Subject:    Re: Session Manager
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The main thing I liked about a session manager (TPX, when I worked with 
Skip) was that if I had some kind of PC or network problem, or even if I 
closed the emulator and went home to continue work, all my VTAM sessions 
remained connected.

Bruce Hewson wrote:
> 
> Do you really need a Terminal Session Manager?
> 
> Regards
> Bruce
> 

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Re: Session Manager

[Seymour J Metz]

Not all session managers restrict you to 24x80; in fact, I have never had the 
misfortune to use one that did. Are you sure that it was a product limitation 
and not a restriction decreed by your management?


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Subject: Re: Session Manager

Regarding Session Supervisor products in the modern day and age.

Working, as I am, in a large enterprise (100+Z/OS images), I do not use any of 
the available Session Managers available.

>From historical perspective, I did enjoy using the NETMASTER MAI facility.

My main complaint with the Session Manager's in our environment if is the local 
requirement that all sessions run in 3270-2 (24x80) mode.
(I have never enjoyed model 2 screens, and even at my first SP job back in 1980 
their mandated default screen size was model 4).
And that the manager products do not handle larger screen formats that can be 
used these days.
(I do like working with larger screen sizes, 62X140 being one of my favourites.)
Plus the difficulty of remembering the special hotkey assignments for each 
product.

My preference, using Tom Brennan's TN3270 Vista, is to have a long list of 
"Host IP Name or Alias" entries to select from.

On occasions I have had 29 TN3270 Vista terminal sessions open concurrently.
(Thanks to Tom for quick update to make that possible).

Do you really need a Terminal Session Manager?

Regards
Bruce

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Re: Session Manager

[Tom Brennan]

The main thing I liked about a session manager (TPX, when I worked with 
Skip) was that if I had some kind of PC or network problem, or even if I 
closed the emulator and went home to continue work, all my VTAM sessions 
remained connected.


Bruce Hewson wrote:


Do you really need a Terminal Session Manager?

Regards
Bruce



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Re: Session Manager

[Bruce Hewson]

Regarding Session Supervisor products in the modern day and age.

Working, as I am, in a large enterprise (100+Z/OS images), I do not use any of 
the available Session Managers available.

From historical perspective, I did enjoy using the NETMASTER MAI facility.

My main complaint with the Session Manager's in our environment if is the local 
requirement that all sessions run in 3270-2 (24x80) mode.
(I have never enjoyed model 2 screens, and even at my first SP job back in 1980 
their mandated default screen size was model 4).
And that the manager products do not handle larger screen formats that can be 
used these days.
(I do like working with larger screen sizes, 62X140 being one of my favourites.)
Plus the difficulty of remembering the special hotkey assignments for each 
product.

My preference, using Tom Brennan's TN3270 Vista, is to have a long list of 
"Host IP Name or Alias" entries to select from.

On occasions I have had 29 TN3270 Vista terminal sessions open concurrently.
(Thanks to Tom for quick update to make that possible).

Do you really need a Terminal Session Manager?

Regards
Bruce

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Re: Session Manager

[Wolfgang Fritz]

https://youtu.be/jKOxlK32Kpc
 Check this for a session manager


> Am 08.03.2018 um 19:28 schrieb Mark Regan :
> 
> Another option would be to use a tn3270 emulator that keeps all the
> sessions within one window, but have individual session tabs at the bottom
> of said window. The one I'm familiar with that can do that is Passport,
> from Rocket Software.
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:57 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>> 
>> You should be able to find a session manager hat communicates with its
>> peers via IP. Any other requirements?t
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
>> of Gadi Ben-Avi 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 12:37 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
>> Subject: Re: Session Manager
>> 
>> There are only IP connections to each of the partitions.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
>> Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:00 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Session Manager
>> 
>> Do you mean that the only connection is through the LAN?  If there is no
>> connection for VTAM that's one thing, but if there isn't even IP access to
>> other partitions then you can't have a session manager. Please clarify.
>> 
>> TSO is able to detect the IP address for a TN3270 session in support of
>> WSA. If you use that facility, check which session managers support it.
>> 
>> BTW, your header includes
>> 
>> Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
>> 
>> but you have non-ASCII data (presumably x) at the
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
>> of Gadi Ben-Avi 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 3:27 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
>> Subject: Session Manager
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am looking for recommendations for a session manager for z/OS.
>> 
>> I know of IBM's CL/SupperSession, CA's TPX and NetPass.
>> 
>> Ideally, We are looking for something that would be able to access
>> sessions on multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.
>> 
>> The systems run z/OS v2.2
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Gadi
>> 
>> 
>> ? ?? ?    ?? ??? ??? ??  ? ??? ??
>> ??. ?? ,  ?? ???  ?, ???   ? ?? ???
>> ? ?? ?? ?. ? ?  ?? ?? ?? ??  ??
>>  ??? ??? ???, ?/?? ?, ? ?? ? ? ? ? ??
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>> מסחרית. כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי
>> מורשה החתימה של החברה. החברה רשאית לנטר כל תכתובת העוברת בשרתיה והיא לא
>> תישא באחריות לכל נזק, ו/או אובדן, שיבוש או פגיעה במידע כלשהו שנגרם מסיבות
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Re: Session Manager

[Mark Regan]

Another option would be to use a tn3270 emulator that keeps all the
sessions within one window, but have individual session tabs at the bottom
of said window. The one I'm familiar with that can do that is Passport,
from Rocket Software.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:57 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> You should be able to find a session manager hat communicates with its
> peers via IP. Any other requirements?t
>
>
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>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Gadi Ben-Avi 
> Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 12:37 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Session Manager
>
> There are only IP connections to each of the partitions.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:00 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Session Manager
>
> Do you mean that the only connection is through the LAN?  If there is no
> connection for VTAM that's one thing, but if there isn't even IP access to
> other partitions then you can't have a session manager. Please clarify.
>
> TSO is able to detect the IP address for a TN3270 session in support of
> WSA. If you use that facility, check which session managers support it.
>
> BTW, your header includes
>
> Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
>
> but you have non-ASCII data (presumably x) at the
>
>
>
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>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Gadi Ben-Avi 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 3:27 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: Session Manager
>
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for recommendations for a session manager for z/OS.
>
> I know of IBM's CL/SupperSession, CA's TPX and NetPass.
>
> Ideally, We are looking for something that would be able to access
> sessions on multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.
>
> The systems run z/OS v2.2
>
> Thanks
>
> Gadi
>
>
> ? ?? ?    ?? ??? ??? ??  ? ??? ??
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> ?? ? ??? ?/?? ?? ?? ??.
>
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> מסחרית. כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי
> מורשה החתימה של החברה. החברה רשאית לנטר כל תכתובת העוברת בשרתיה והיא לא
> תישא באחריות לכל נזק, ו/או אובדן, שיבוש או פגיעה במידע כלשהו שנגרם מסיבות
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Re: Session Manager

[Seymour J Metz]

You should be able to find a session manager hat communicates with its peers 
via IP. Any other requirements?t


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
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Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 12:37 AM
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Subject: Re: Session Manager

There are only IP connections to each of the partitions.

-Original Message-
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Of Seymour J Metz
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Subject: Re: Session Manager

Do you mean that the only connection is through the LAN?  If there is no 
connection for VTAM that's one thing, but if there isn't even IP access to 
other partitions then you can't have a session manager. Please clarify.

TSO is able to detect the IP address for a TN3270 session in support of WSA. If 
you use that facility, check which session managers support it.

BTW, your header includes

Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII

but you have non-ASCII data (presumably x) at the



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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
Gadi Ben-Avi 
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 3:27 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Session Manager

Hi,

I am looking for recommendations for a session manager for z/OS.

I know of IBM's CL/SupperSession, CA's TPX and NetPass.

Ideally, We are looking for something that would be able to access sessions on 
multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.

The systems run z/OS v2.2

Thanks

Gadi


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Re: Session Manager

[Keith Banham]

Hi. Sounds like you need Tubes from Macro 4. With Tubes you can define a TCP/IP 
session to the Telnet on the other LPAR. From the Telnet session connection you 
can either go directly to the application, such as TSO, or even to another 
Tubes system and have access to all the applications on that LPAR. You can 
connect multiple Tubes systems in this manner and access all of your 
applications across all of your LPARs.
On the secondary subject of why you might need a Session Manager - our 
customers are super keen on security, compliance & auditing and accessibility. 
For security they want to control what applications a user can see and 
therefore access and they like this control to be in the hands of the RACF 
security team. For compliance & auditing they need to ensure that users can 
only access certain data and this access is fully audited. Compliance is a hot 
topic, especially with the new European GDPR rules coming along in May which 
will affect all European business and also any world-wide businesses that 
access any personal data belonging to a European. Along with this I also 
predict that logging on to the mainframe will require Multi-Factor 
Authentication to satisfy the GDPR auditors. So if you use just a terminal 
emulator and open up individual connections then you will have to enter your 
MFA credentials each time for every emulator connection. Every time those 
emulator connections drops (how many times do you reboot your PC for Windows 
updates for example, or shut-down each night, etc.) you will have to re-enter 
your MFA credentials for each and every connection. Much better to just log on 
once to a session manager and enter your MFA credentials just once and if you 
lose connection due to a reboot you just log on once again and all your 
applications are just where you left them. There are also hidden costs to 
having emulation software, apart from administrating licenses there is also 
installation and upgrades plus help desk support to consider. One of our 
customers is desperate to get rid of their emulation software as most of their 
thousands of end-users are not IT staff and they spend tens of thousands of 
dollars each year just in Help Desk support costs. A modern session manager 
will also have web access capabilities giving the end-user even more 
flexibility, as well as the potential to reduce their emulation usage and 
costs. When wondering around the office I use my tablet and when I want to 
access my mainframe sessions I just use the web browser on the tablet to log in 
and all my mainframe sessions are exactly as I left them when I got up from my 
desk.
Modern Session Managers have moved on from just simple 3270 access.
So just like the death of the mainframe, the death of Session Managers is a 
long way off.

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Re: Session Manager

[Wendell Lovewell]

Gadi, 

MacKinney Systems sells a very affordable VTAM session manager we call 
VTAM/Switch.  We'd be glad to talk to you about it.  But if you do not have 
connectivity between the LPARs, no z/OS-based session manager will be able to 
acquire a session in a different LPAR.

If you mainly want a clear indication of your current LPAR/application, maybe 
customizing the emulator's title bar to include the host name or VTAM applid 
would help.  The emulators I've worked with have the ability to allow you to 
customize the value displayed at the top of each emulator session's window.  I 
probably run 5 or 6 different emulator sessions, with at least 2 connected to 
VTAM/Switch with a handful of sessions open under them.  

I also use "Send To/Desktop" on my emulator definitions to create shortcuts to 
them on the Desktop.  This allows me to assign "Shortcut Keys" for each 
session.  I then use the unique shortcut key to switch to the session I want.  
For example, I can press Ctrl-Alt-1 and get to a session which is connected to 
VTAM/Switch running on one system, Ctrl-Alt-2 immediately brings up a 
VTAM/Switch session on a different system.  Ctrl-Alt-z gets me a z/OS Console.  
And so on.

I use the shortcut keys to get immediate access to the session I want, and the 
title is customized to verify that I'm on the correct system. 

Hth, 
Wendell

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Re: Session Manager

[Gadi Ben-Avi]

Not at this time

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of ITschak Mugzach
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:59 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Session Manager

But u can use enterprise extender to bridge sna over ip.

ITschak

בתאריך 8 במרץ 2018 7:51,‏ "Gadi Ben-Avi"  כתב:

> There is no SNA communication between the LPARS.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach
> Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:48 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Session Manager
>
> You only need single tn3270 session if you use a kind of session manager.
> Once you are in, it wil use cross domain to connect to other lpars.
>
> ITschak
>
> בתאריך 8 במרץ 2018 7:38,‏ "Gadi Ben-Avi"  כתב:
>
> > There are only IP connections to each of the partitions.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:00 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Session Manager
> >
> > Do you mean that the only connection is through the LAN?  If there
> > is no connection for VTAM that's one thing, but if there isn't even
> > IP access to other partitions then you can't have a session manager.
> > Please
> clarify.
> >
> > TSO is able to detect the IP address for a TN3270 session in support
> > of WSA. If you use that facility, check which session managers
> > support
> it.
> >
> > BTW, your header includes
> >
> > Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
> >
> > but you have non-ASCII data (presumably x) at the
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> >
> > 
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
> > behalf of Gadi Ben-Avi 
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 3:27 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> > Subject: Session Manager
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking for recommendations for a session manager for z/OS.
> >
> > I know of IBM's CL/SupperSession, CA's TPX and NetPass.
> >
> > Ideally, We are looking for something that would be able to access
> > sessions on multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.
> >
> > The systems run z/OS v2.2
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Gadi
> >
> >
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> > מוגנת תחת סודיות מסחרית. כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה,
> > מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשה החתימה של החברה. החברה רשאית
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> > אובדן, שיבוש או פגיעה במידע כלשהו שנגרם מסיבות של תקיפה חיצונית ו/או
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> וחתום על ידי מורשה החתימה של החברה. החברה רשאית לנטר כל תכתובת העוברת
> בשרתיה והיא לא תישא באחריות לכל נזק, ו/או אובדן, שיבוש או פגיעה במידע
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Re: Session Manager

[ITschak Mugzach]

But u can use enterprise extender to bridge sna over ip.

ITschak

בתאריך 8 במרץ 2018 7:51,‏ "Gadi Ben-Avi"  כתב:

> There is no SNA communication between the LPARS.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach
> Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:48 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Session Manager
>
> You only need single tn3270 session if you use a kind of session manager.
> Once you are in, it wil use cross domain to connect to other lpars.
>
> ITschak
>
> בתאריך 8 במרץ 2018 7:38,‏ "Gadi Ben-Avi"  כתב:
>
> > There are only IP connections to each of the partitions.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:00 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Session Manager
> >
> > Do you mean that the only connection is through the LAN?  If there is
> > no connection for VTAM that's one thing, but if there isn't even IP
> > access to other partitions then you can't have a session manager. Please
> clarify.
> >
> > TSO is able to detect the IP address for a TN3270 session in support
> > of WSA. If you use that facility, check which session managers support
> it.
> >
> > BTW, your header includes
> >
> > Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
> >
> > but you have non-ASCII data (presumably x) at the
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> >
> > 
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
> > behalf of Gadi Ben-Avi 
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 3:27 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> > Subject: Session Manager
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking for recommendations for a session manager for z/OS.
> >
> > I know of IBM's CL/SupperSession, CA's TPX and NetPass.
> >
> > Ideally, We are looking for something that would be able to access
> > sessions on multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.
> >
> > The systems run z/OS v2.2
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Gadi
> >
> >
> > ? ?? ?    ?? ??? ??? ??  ? ??? ??
> > ??. ?? ,  ?? ???  ?, ???   ? ??
> ???
> > ? ?? ?? ?. ? ?  ?? ?? ?? ??  ??
> >  ??? ??? ???, ?/?? ?, ? ?? ? ? ? ? ??
> > ?? ? ??? ?/?? ?? ?? ??.
> >
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> > סודיות מסחרית. כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד
> > וחתום על ידי מורשה החתימה של החברה. החברה רשאית לנטר כל תכתובת העוברת
> > בשרתיה והיא לא תישא באחריות לכל נזק, ו/או אובדן, שיבוש או פגיעה במידע
> > כלשהו שנגרם מסיבות של תקיפה חיצונית ו/או זדונית על הארגון.
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> מסחרית. כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי
> מורשה החתימה של החברה. החברה רשאית לנטר כל תכתובת העוברת בשרתיה והיא לא
> תישא באחריות לכל נזק, ו/או אובדן, שיבוש או פגיעה במידע כלשהו שנגרם מסיבות
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Re: Session Manager

[Gadi Ben-Avi]

There is no SNA communication between the LPARS.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of ITschak Mugzach
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:48 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Session Manager

You only need single tn3270 session if you use a kind of session manager.
Once you are in, it wil use cross domain to connect to other lpars.

ITschak

בתאריך 8 במרץ 2018 7:38,‏ "Gadi Ben-Avi"  כתב:

> There are only IP connections to each of the partitions.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:00 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Session Manager
>
> Do you mean that the only connection is through the LAN?  If there is
> no connection for VTAM that's one thing, but if there isn't even IP
> access to other partitions then you can't have a session manager. Please 
> clarify.
>
> TSO is able to detect the IP address for a TN3270 session in support
> of WSA. If you use that facility, check which session managers support it.
>
> BTW, your header includes
>
> Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
>
> but you have non-ASCII data (presumably x) at the
>
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
> behalf of Gadi Ben-Avi 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 3:27 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: Session Manager
>
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for recommendations for a session manager for z/OS.
>
> I know of IBM's CL/SupperSession, CA's TPX and NetPass.
>
> Ideally, We are looking for something that would be able to access
> sessions on multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.
>
> The systems run z/OS v2.2
>
> Thanks
>
> Gadi
>
>
> ? ?? ?    ?? ??? ??? ??  ? ??? ??
> ??. ?? ,  ?? ???  ?, ???   ? ?? ???
> ? ?? ?? ?. ? ?  ?? ?? ?? ??  ??
>  ??? ??? ???, ?/?? ?, ? ?? ? ? ? ? ??
> ?? ? ??? ?/?? ?? ?? ??.
>
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> סודיות מסחרית. כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד
> וחתום על ידי מורשה החתימה של החברה. החברה רשאית לנטר כל תכתובת העוברת
> בשרתיה והיא לא תישא באחריות לכל נזק, ו/או אובדן, שיבוש או פגיעה במידע
> כלשהו שנגרם מסיבות של תקיפה חיצונית ו/או זדונית על הארגון.
>
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מסחרית. כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי 
מורשה החתימה של החברה. החברה רשאית לנטר כל תכתובת העוברת בשרתיה והיא לא תישא 
באחריות לכל נזק, ו/או אובדן, שיבוש או פגיעה במידע כלשהו שנגרם מסיבות של תקיפה 
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Re: Session Manager

[ITschak Mugzach]

You only need single tn3270 session if you use a kind of session manager.
Once you are in, it wil use cross domain to connect to other lpars.

ITschak

בתאריך 8 במרץ 2018 7:38,‏ "Gadi Ben-Avi"  כתב:

> There are only IP connections to each of the partitions.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:00 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Session Manager
>
> Do you mean that the only connection is through the LAN?  If there is no
> connection for VTAM that's one thing, but if there isn't even IP access to
> other partitions then you can't have a session manager. Please clarify.
>
> TSO is able to detect the IP address for a TN3270 session in support of
> WSA. If you use that facility, check which session managers support it.
>
> BTW, your header includes
>
> Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
>
> but you have non-ASCII data (presumably x) at the
>
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Gadi Ben-Avi 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 3:27 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: Session Manager
>
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for recommendations for a session manager for z/OS.
>
> I know of IBM's CL/SupperSession, CA's TPX and NetPass.
>
> Ideally, We are looking for something that would be able to access
> sessions on multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.
>
> The systems run z/OS v2.2
>
> Thanks
>
> Gadi
>
>
> ? ?? ?    ?? ??? ??? ??  ? ??? ??
> ??. ?? ,  ?? ???  ?, ???   ? ?? ???
> ? ?? ?? ?. ? ?  ?? ?? ?? ??  ??
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Re: Session Manager

[Gadi Ben-Avi]

There are only IP connections to each of the partitions.

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Do you mean that the only connection is through the LAN?  If there is no 
connection for VTAM that's one thing, but if there isn't even IP access to 
other partitions then you can't have a session manager. Please clarify.

TSO is able to detect the IP address for a TN3270 session in support of WSA. If 
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Hi,

I am looking for recommendations for a session manager for z/OS.

I know of IBM's CL/SupperSession, CA's TPX and NetPass.

Ideally, We are looking for something that would be able to access sessions on 
multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.

The systems run z/OS v2.2

Thanks

Gadi


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Re: Session Manager

[Seymour J Metz]

Do you mean that the only connection is through the LAN?  If there is no 
connection for VTAM that's one thing, but if there isn't even IP access to 
other partitions then you can't have a session manager. Please clarify.

TSO is able to detect the IP address for a TN3270 session in support of WSA. If 
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Hi,

I am looking for recommendations for a session manager for z/OS.

I know of IBM's CL/SupperSession, CA's TPX and NetPass.

Ideally, We are looking for something that would be able to access sessions on 
multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.

The systems run z/OS v2.2

Thanks

Gadi


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Re: Session Manager

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

I've used (only) [CA-]TPX since the 80s. It's common in (somewhat) larger shops 
to use a session manager for several reasons.

1. With several LPARs, the number of required logons can balloon dramatically. 
TSO. SMCS. Omegamon. CICS. CICS alone accounts for dozens (!) of our logon 
requirements across multiple LPARs. If you truly have <10 logon requirements, 
then a session manager might not be necessary.

2. We manage a full function DR environment, which nearly doubles the number of 
required logons during testing. With TPX, we log our emulator on only once to 
the production network and once to the DR network. This amplifies the argument 
in (1). 

3. TPX offers a component to facilitate changing passwords. Assuming that a 
user maintains the same password across all logons, by changing the password 
just once at TPX logon, then logging on successively to all supported sessions 
will update the password on each. One minute to update and synchronize all 
passwords. 

4. Perhaps the greatest benefit of all, TPX itself holds all sessions 
regardless of the status of your emulator. Of course Windows is more reliable 
than it used to be, but it still falls far short of mainframe RAS. The more 
active sessions you have open, the more you'll appreciate not having to log 
back on to each of them and redo lost work. 

I've heard that are cheaper session managers that some folks seem to like a 
lot. I imagine that they all provide for (1), (2), and (4) above. BTW as others 
have noted, your LPARs *must* be connected via whatever supports SNA to the 
LPAR where the session manager runs. For us, that's the 'CMC'. You could run 
multiple instances of a session manager, but that dilutes the effectiveness and 
might raise license cost. 

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The system I am talking about has 4 LPARs I need at least:
1 session for TSO/ISPF
2 Session for Omegamon - might need to have more.

So that is already 8 sessions. For each of those, I have to be sure I'm working 
on the right system.
This is my main cause for getting a session manager. Making sure I am working 
to the system I mean to be working on.

Gadi

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Isn't the idea of a session manager kinda fading into the sunset?   These were 
popular back in the days of coax attached 3270 terminals, but these days, 
having as many emulator windows open on your workstation is easier?

Not criticizing, just curious on the need I guess.

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Hi,

I am looking for recommendations for a session manager for z/OS.

I know of IBM's CL/SupperSession, CA's TPX and NetPass.

Ideally, We are looking for something that would be able to access sessions on 
multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.

The systems run z/OS v2.2

Thanks

Gadi


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Re: Session Manager

[Gadi Ben-Avi]

The system I am talking about has 4 LPARs
I need at least:
1 session for TSO/ISPF
2 Session for Omegamon - might need to have more.

So that is already 8 sessions. For each of those, I have to be sure I'm working 
on the right system.
This is my main cause for getting a session manager. Making sure I am working 
to the system I mean to be working on.

Gadi

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Subject: Re: Session Manager

Isn't the idea of a session manager kinda fading into the sunset?   These were 
popular back in the days of coax attached 3270 terminals, but these days, 
having as many emulator windows open on your workstation is easier?

Not criticizing, just curious on the need I guess.

_
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Hi,

I am looking for recommendations for a session manager for z/OS.

I know of IBM's CL/SupperSession, CA's TPX and NetPass.

Ideally, We are looking for something that would be able to access sessions on 
multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.

The systems run z/OS v2.2

Thanks

Gadi


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Re: Session Manager

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Jousma, David wrote:

>Mark, I get all those, but are those enough to justify the cost?  TN3270 
>connections are *free*, yes there is an imposition if your sessions are 
>dropped, but how often is that occurring?   Do you still run with a session 
>manager?   I have not for over 20 years. 

We have a session manager and use it extensively, with these reasons ( selling 
points? ;-D ):

- menu driven selection
- no need to type in LOGON APPLID(???) (Yes, you can automate that commands in 
you emulators.)
- Time out is 15 minutes. Seriously. This overrides whatever timeout settings 
you have in your application.
- Better session recovery after it was dropped. It happens seldom these days, 
but it is always nice to resume it.
- automated logons, usually up to a point where passwords are entered.


>I guess I've gotten so used to just having separate windows open, and being 
>able to see the contents of multiple windows at the same time that I could not 
>imagine going back to those limitations.

Some of my clients and colleagues (especially operators) have multiple separate 
windows. Say, for example, there are several PCs with 4 of such windows each 
for managing consoles. Once a WTO or WTOR appears, it is just there immediately 
and very very visible for all to see.

But some of the clients/colleagues are using a web browser to access a 
mainframe application. Think HTTP server / WebSphere for example.

There are vendors in IBM-MAIN which also sell those emulators but you use a web 
browser ( Mozilla FF, Chrome, IE, etc.) to access a fully clickable 3270 
screen. And you can have several tabs in your browser to switch to a 3270 
session.

If I have space on my table for multiple large monitors, then I will rather go 
for multiple windows instead of having a session manager.

So, you use it (session manager) or not. Your own decision.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: Session Manager

[R.S.]

W dniu 2018-03-07 o 13:34, Mark Regan pisze:

Several selling points for using a session manager are: 1) you only have to
make one tn3270 connection, as long as you have SNA connectivity with all
the LPARS you want to have SNA sessions with; 2) if you lose that tn3270
connection, when you log back into it, your active 3270 sessions are still
there; and 3) your session manager can automate the login to all the SNA
sessions you want, either at initial login time, or later if you select a
session manually from its menu.
1) Connection is free. Many session definitions can be saved and kept on 
PC desktop. Forget about SNA, nowadays it's TCP/IP, with TSL/SSL option.
2) Lost connection do happen, but it is really exotic. However in that 
case the only what I need is to logon with reconnect option.
3) While there are other ways to auto-logon I sipmly don't bother with 
it. Logon process is not big deal.


Form the other hand a session manager is a cost. How much is it???

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Re: Session Manager

[Feller, Paul]

Gadi, I may be too old school, but for a session manager to work there needs to 
be a connection between lpars.  Naturally all the session managers you 
mentioned will do the job.  I have used Supersession for years and for the most 
part have had no issues.  

As for the comments about why have one, I've seen shops use them to have 
control what application people see and use.  Some places force you to enter 
their systems only through a session manager.  You should always have a back 
door to get in to your systems with the need for a session manager.

Thanks..

Paul Feller
AGT Mainframe Technical Support

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Hi,

I am looking for recommendations for a session manager for z/OS.

I know of IBM's CL/SupperSession, CA's TPX and NetPass.

Ideally, We are looking for something that would be able to access sessions on 
multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.

The systems run z/OS v2.2

Thanks

Gadi


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Re: Session Manager

[Jousma, David]

Mark, I get all those, but are those enough to justify the cost?  TN3270 
connections are *free*, yes there is an imposition if your sessions are 
dropped, but how often is that occurring?   Do you still run with a session 
manager?   I have not for over 20 years. I guess I've gotten so used to just 
having separate windows open, and being able to see the contents of multiple 
windows at the same time that I could not imagine going back to those 
limitations.

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Several selling points for using a session manager are: 1) you only have to 
make one tn3270 connection, as long as you have SNA connectivity with all the 
LPARS you want to have SNA sessions with; 2) if you lose that tn3270 
connection, when you log back into it, your active 3270 sessions are still 
there; and 3) your session manager can automate the login to all the SNA 
sessions you want, either at initial login time, or later if you select a 
session manually from its menu.



On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 7:01 AM Jousma, David  wrote:

> Isn't the idea of a session manager kinda fading into the sunset?   These
> were popular back in the days of coax attached 3270 terminals, but 
> these days, having as many emulator windows open on your workstation is 
> easier?
>
> Not criticizing, just curious on the need I guess.
>
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>
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> sessions on multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.
>
> The systems run z/OS v2.2
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: Session Manager

[Mark Regan]

Several selling points for using a session manager are: 1) you only have to
make one tn3270 connection, as long as you have SNA connectivity with all
the LPARS you want to have SNA sessions with; 2) if you lose that tn3270
connection, when you log back into it, your active 3270 sessions are still
there; and 3) your session manager can automate the login to all the SNA
sessions you want, either at initial login time, or later if you select a
session manually from its menu.



On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 7:01 AM Jousma, David  wrote:

> Isn't the idea of a session manager kinda fading into the sunset?   These
> were popular back in the days of coax attached 3270 terminals, but these
> days, having as many emulator windows open on your workstation is easier?
>
> Not criticizing, just curious on the need I guess.
>
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Re: Session Manager

[Wolfgang Fritz]

Try virtel from syspertec there is a session manager include

Bin unterwegs hab nur iPhone zur Verfügung.😎

> Am 07.03.2018 um 09:27 schrieb Gadi Ben-Avi :
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> Hi,
> 
> I am looking for recommendations for a session manager for z/OS.
> 
> I know of IBM's CL/SupperSession, CA's TPX and NetPass.
> 
> Ideally, We are looking for something that would be able to access sessions 
> on multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.
> 
> The systems run z/OS v2.2
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gadi
> 
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Re: Session Manager

[Jousma, David]

Isn't the idea of a session manager kinda fading into the sunset?   These were 
popular back in the days of coax attached 3270 terminals, but these days, 
having as many emulator windows open on your workstation is easier?

Not criticizing, just curious on the need I guess.

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Hi,

I am looking for recommendations for a session manager for z/OS.

I know of IBM's CL/SupperSession, CA's TPX and NetPass.

Ideally, We are looking for something that would be able to access sessions on 
multiple partitions that are not connected in any way.

The systems run z/OS v2.2

Thanks

Gadi


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