Re: sys1.parmlib compare

[Willy Jensen]

"Members with ISPF statistics are marked with 'no-stat'"
should of course have said
"Members without ISPF statistics are marked with 'no-stat'"
doc will be fixed asap

Re FAMS, the dialog uses whatever PDS86 provides as timestamp.

The SETDatadif command compares all members in both libraries using SUPERC, 
marks lines where member data differ with 'datadif' in pink. I think that it is 
too costly to have that option as default.

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Re: sys1.parmlib compare

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 15:11:11 -0500, Willy Jensen wrote:

>I have an ISPF based dialog to compare 2 libraries, and copy between them. See 
>MLCMP at http://harders-jensen.com
>
Elaborate indeed!

>Start by taking a look at the doc - click on the 'text' text in the righthand 
>column. Note that the PDS86 program from cbtttape.org file 182 is required.
> 
Where I read:
 Members with ISPF statistics are marked with 'no-stat'

??? Counterintuitive.  I'd expect members with ISPF statistics to be marked 
"yes-stat".

Will it rely on FAMS timestamps for members lacking ISPF statistics?

It might be valuable (at some cost in performance) optionally to highlight 
non-identical
member pairs.  (according to IEBCOMPR, ICSF checksum, or post- processing 
ISRSUPC
output, which might perform best if ISRSUPC accesses members using FIND rather
than OPEN.)

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Re: sys1.parmlib compare

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 14:36:37 -0500, BM wrote:
>
>I would like to explore the rexx, Appreciate it if you have it handy and 
>share, yes Kolusu suggested one helped.
> 
Sounds like a self-training exercise.  I've used ISRSUPC only to compare single 
members/files,
not entire libraries.

You might use LMMLIST to enumerate members.  I'm aware of the service;
I've never used it.  Long ago, I have read a PDS directory as DSORG=PS,
RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=256 and parsed the blocks according to the
record definitions in Using Data Sets.

Store the member lists in compound symbols.  (ISPF is stuck in the 1970s
and shuns compound symbols.)  Compare common members.  Don't
try to write your own compare routine.  Off-the-shelf tools are surely better.

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Re: sys1.parmlib compare

[Willy Jensen]

I have an ISPF based dialog to compare 2 libraries, and copy between them. See 
MLCMP at http://harders-jensen.com
Start by taking a look at the doc - click on the 'text' text in the righthand 
column. Note that the PDS86 program from cbtttape.org file 182 is required.

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Re: sys1.parmlib compare

[BM]

Hey Paul.

I would like to explore the rexx, Appreciate it if you have it handy and share, 
yes Kolusu suggested one helped.

Thanks all for looking into this and helping.

Regards,

BM

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Re: sys1.parmlib compare

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 15:17:58 +, Burrell, Todd wrote:

>You will probably have to generate member lists for both PDS's and then you 
>can use REXX to generate the compare JCL member by member.  There may be a 
>quicker way with something like PDSTOOLS, but this is how I would attempt it.  
> 
Not to disparage Rexx, but won't ISRSUPC, as Kolusu has suggested, do all that
for you in one step?

MR. Natural says, Use the right tool for the job.

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Re: sys1.parmlib compare

[Steely.Mark]

This is the way I do it all the time:

//PARMLIB  EXEC PGM=ISRSUPC,
// PARM=(DELTAL,FILECMP) -this will just tell you if there 
is a difference(uncomment the one you want)   
//*PARM=(DELTAL,LINECMP)   -this will show you what the 
difference are
//NEWDDDD  DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.PARMLIB  
//OLDDDDD  DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.PARMLIB.NEW  
//*  
//OUTDDDD  SYSOUT=*  
//SYSINDD  DUMMY 
//*

Thanks  

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You will probably have to generate member lists for both PDS's and then you can 
use REXX to generate the compare JCL member by member.  There may be a quicker 
way with something like PDSTOOLS, but this is how I would attempt it.

Thanks

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≫ I am trying to compare members of sys1.parmlib from two different Operating 
systems (using SuperCE), Any other simple ways to do this, Like mass compare of 
members?

Run SuperC in Batch

//SUPERC  EXEC PGM=ISRSUPC,PARM=(DELTAL,ALLMEMS,FILECMP,'','')
//NEWDD   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=Your.PDS1
//OLDDD   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=Your.PDS2
//OUTDD   DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN   DD DUMMY


Thanks,
Kolusu


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Re: sys1.parmlib compare

[Burrell, Todd]

You will probably have to generate member lists for both PDS's and then you can 
use REXX to generate the compare JCL member by member.  There may be a quicker 
way with something like PDSTOOLS, but this is how I would attempt it.  

Thanks

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≫ I am trying to compare members of sys1.parmlib from two different Operating 
systems (using SuperCE), Any other simple ways to do this, Like mass compare of 
members?

Run SuperC in Batch

//SUPERC  EXEC PGM=ISRSUPC,PARM=(DELTAL,ALLMEMS,FILECMP,'','')
//NEWDD   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=Your.PDS1
//OLDDD   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=Your.PDS2
//OUTDD   DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN   DD DUMMY


Thanks,
Kolusu


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Re: sys1.parmlib compare

[Sri h Kolusu]

≫ I am trying to compare members of sys1.parmlib from two different Operating 
systems (using SuperCE), Any other simple ways to do this, Like mass compare of 
members?

Run SuperC in Batch

//SUPERC  EXEC PGM=ISRSUPC,PARM=(DELTAL,ALLMEMS,FILECMP,'','')
//NEWDD   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=Your.PDS1
//OLDDD   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=Your.PDS2
//OUTDD   DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN   DD DUMMY


Thanks,
Kolusu


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Re: sys1.parmlib compare

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 19:48:12 -0500, BM wrote:

>I am trying to compare members of sys1.parmlib from two different Operating 
>systems (using SuperCE), Any other simple ways to do this, Like mass compare 
>of members?
> 


See Optiion "ALLMEMSAll members"

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Re: sys1.parmlib compare

[Mike Schwab]

Go through the ISPF menu.  Mismatched member names will be listed, matching
names will be comated.

On Tue, Jul 5, 2022, 19:48 BM  wrote:

> I am trying to compare members of sys1.parmlib from two different
> Operating systems (using SuperCE), Any other simple ways to do this, Like
> mass compare of members?
>
> Thanks,
> BM
>
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