Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-14 Thread IT Pro
No Ravi, I made sure there was no address space, neither in the SDSF
DA display nor in the PS screen.

But I already found out the root cause which you may read in one of my
previous posts.
Kind regards,
Aitor.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Ravi Gaur gaur.ravi2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Did you check if really SYSLOGD address space active or not? it capture log 
 for FTP daemon etc..

 D A,SYSLOGD
 IEE115I 01.08.26 2012.286 ACTIVITY 488
  JOBS M/STS USERSSYSASINITS   ACTIVE/MAX VTAM OAS
 3000181  00033001851/00100   00015
  SYSLOGD  STEP1OMVSKERN NSW  AO  A=00E3   PER=NO   SMC=000
  PGN=N/A  DMN=N/A  AFF=NONE
  CT=002.146S  ET=00110.13
  WUID=STC18964 USERID=OMVSKERN
  WKL=STC  SCL=STCMDP=1
  RGP=N/A  SRVR=NO  QSC=NO
  ADDR SPACE ASTE=3EE768C0

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-11 Thread IT Pro
The least I could do was post the solution here.
Regards.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:10 PM, IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I completely agree, Peter.
 Thanks for your understanding.
 Aitor.

 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
 peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote:
Seeing that the message is quite misleading, yes it may deserve
opening an APAR. I didn't think about it really. I have never opened
an APAR before, but my boss won't be in the mood of my getting into
the process of creating one. There's always work to be done, and I
must not waste time. I just obey (this doesn't mean IBM does not
deserve getting warned about this to correct the manual).

 I perfectly understand your situation, however, you did waste a lot of
 time just because the message was so misleading...

 It would be an APAR against the code not the manual. syslogd should
 differentiate between the different reasons why it cannot proceed. At
 least one additional (different) message would be appropriate.

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-11 Thread Ravi Gaur
Did you check if really SYSLOGD address space active or not? it capture log for 
FTP daemon etc..

D A,SYSLOGD 
IEE115I 01.08.26 2012.286 ACTIVITY 488  
 JOBS M/STS USERSSYSASINITS   ACTIVE/MAX VTAM OAS   
3000181  00033001851/00100   00015  
 SYSLOGD  STEP1OMVSKERN NSW  AO  A=00E3   PER=NO   SMC=000  
 PGN=N/A  DMN=N/A  AFF=NONE 
 CT=002.146S  ET=00110.13   
 WUID=STC18964 USERID=OMVSKERN  
 WKL=STC  SCL=STCMDP=1  
 RGP=N/A  SRVR=NO  QSC=NO   
 ADDR SPACE ASTE=3EE768C0  

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-10 Thread IT Pro
Oh, well, I don't know whether this deserves opening an APAR. The
message is indeed quite misleading, but the thing is that once the
line in the section PORT of TCPIP's profile was corrected to match the
actual procedure name (that is, removing the leading 1), SYSLOG
started successfully and stopped complaining that was already active.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote:
Just one more clarifying comment: the cause was really in a line like
514 UDP SYSLOGT1 in the PORT section of TCPIP's profile. Removing
the leading 1 (SYSLOGT is the procedure name) made it work. So that
leading 1 was the cause. This is probably a reminiscence when SYSLOG
used to fork, if it used to.

 In your initial post, you showed the message you're getting:
   BPXF024I (USRFWKT) Oct  8 11:27:08 BOLSAWBD/USRFWKT SYSLOGT syslogd:
   FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

 TFM explains FSUM1229 as follows:
   Explanation: Another instance of syslogd, or possibly some other
 program, is already
processing the syslogd AF_UNIX socket. The
 syslogd AF_UNIX socket is
/dev/log, or a different one specified with
 the -p command-line parameter.

 This does not correlate to the cause you've found. syslogd should write
 a message
 telling it could not open port 514 with the corresponding reason.

 APAR time?

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-10 Thread IT Pro
Seeing that the message is quite misleading, yes it may deserve
opening an APAR. I didn't think about it really. I have never opened
an APAR before, but my boss won't be in the mood of my getting into
the process of creating one. There's always work to be done, and I
must not waste time. I just obey (this doesn't mean IBM does not
deserve getting warned about this to correct the manual).

Regards,
Aitor.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:02 AM, IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh, well, I don't know whether this deserves opening an APAR. The
 message is indeed quite misleading, but the thing is that once the
 line in the section PORT of TCPIP's profile was corrected to match the
 actual procedure name (that is, removing the leading 1), SYSLOG
 started successfully and stopped complaining that was already active.

 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
 peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote:
Just one more clarifying comment: the cause was really in a line like
514 UDP SYSLOGT1 in the PORT section of TCPIP's profile. Removing
the leading 1 (SYSLOGT is the procedure name) made it work. So that
leading 1 was the cause. This is probably a reminiscence when SYSLOG
used to fork, if it used to.

 In your initial post, you showed the message you're getting:
   BPXF024I (USRFWKT) Oct  8 11:27:08 BOLSAWBD/USRFWKT SYSLOGT syslogd:
   FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

 TFM explains FSUM1229 as follows:
   Explanation: Another instance of syslogd, or possibly some other
 program, is already
processing the syslogd AF_UNIX socket. The
 syslogd AF_UNIX socket is
/dev/log, or a different one specified with
 the -p command-line parameter.

 This does not correlate to the cause you've found. syslogd should write
 a message
 telling it could not open port 514 with the corresponding reason.

 APAR time?

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-10 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Seeing that the message is quite misleading, yes it may deserve
opening an APAR. I didn't think about it really. I have never opened
an APAR before, but my boss won't be in the mood of my getting into
the process of creating one. There's always work to be done, and I
must not waste time. I just obey (this doesn't mean IBM does not
deserve getting warned about this to correct the manual).

I perfectly understand your situation, however, you did waste a lot of
time just because the message was so misleading...

It would be an APAR against the code not the manual. syslogd should
differentiate between the different reasons why it cannot proceed. At
least one additional (different) message would be appropriate.

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-09 Thread IT Pro
Hi Mark, I started it from /etc/rc because having it configured from
TCPIP's AUTOLOG the result was just the message of the subject, and it
ended. So I commented out the AUTOLOG statement regarding SYSLOG, and
I subsequently configured SYSLOG to be started from /etc/rc. I am not
starting it from two different places. The result is that starting it
from /etc/rc works, but letting TCPIP start it using the AUTOLOG
feature ends with the message already active.

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote:
 On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:31:39 +0200, IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com wrote:

We have customized /etc/rc to include the start of syslog, very
similar to what you say, and it works like that:

_BPX_JOBNAME='SYSLOGT' /usr/sbin/syslogd -d -c -u -f
/usr/local/etc/syslogd.conf 


 Well then you've answered your own question.If you are starting
 it via /etc/rc,  then when you try to start it from a
 console START command or AUTOLOG it will have already
 been active and you will see the message you are seeing.

 Choose only one method to start it (I prefer /etc/rc).

 Regards,

 Mark
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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-09 Thread Walter Marguccio
 From: IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com

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 The result is that starting it from /etc/rc works, but letting TCPIP
 start it using the AUTOLOG feature ends with the message already active.

but that doesn't make sense, does it ?
Just curious .


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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-09 Thread IT Pro
No, it doesn't make any sense. That's why I was asking in this forum.
There must be something that I'm missing... I'm racking my brains! :-(

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Walter Marguccio
walter_marguc...@yahoo.com wrote:
 From: IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com

 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

 The result is that starting it from /etc/rc works, but letting TCPIP
 start it using the AUTOLOG feature ends with the message already active.

 but that doesn't make sense, does it ?
 Just curious .


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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-09 Thread IT Pro
SOLVED! In the TCPIP profile there was a line in the PORT section that
was reserving port number 514 for SYSLOG, so:

1) I removed (commented out) that line reserving port 514, and
2) Commented out the line in /etc/rc that starts SYSLOG from Unix, and
3) Added the line that I'd previously commented out in the AUTOLOG
section of TCPIP's profile to automatically start SYSLOG as a started
task using a PROC, and
4) Used -i command-line option for SYSLOG to force SYSLOG run in local-mode only

I think the main reason was 1) above: it seemed that OMVS was
preventing SYSLOG from using that port. I don't know why that line
reserving the port was there.

Many thanks to all.
Best regards,
Aitor.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:24 AM, IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, it doesn't make any sense. That's why I was asking in this forum.
 There must be something that I'm missing... I'm racking my brains! :-(

 On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Walter Marguccio
 walter_marguc...@yahoo.com wrote:
 From: IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com

 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

 The result is that starting it from /etc/rc works, but letting TCPIP
 start it using the AUTOLOG feature ends with the message already active.

 but that doesn't make sense, does it ?
 Just curious .


 Walter Marguccio
 z/OS Systems Programmer
 BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
 Munich - Germany

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-09 Thread IT Pro
Just one more clarifying comment: the cause was really in a line like
514 UDP SYSLOGT1 in the PORT section of TCPIP's profile. Removing
the leading 1 (SYSLOGT is the procedure name) made it work. So that
leading 1 was the cause. This is probably a reminiscence when SYSLOG
used to fork, if it used to.

Thanks again for your support.
Regards,
Aitor.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:00 AM, IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com wrote:
 SOLVED! In the TCPIP profile there was a line in the PORT section that
 was reserving port number 514 for SYSLOG, so:

 1) I removed (commented out) that line reserving port 514, and
 2) Commented out the line in /etc/rc that starts SYSLOG from Unix, and
 3) Added the line that I'd previously commented out in the AUTOLOG
 section of TCPIP's profile to automatically start SYSLOG as a started
 task using a PROC, and
 4) Used -i command-line option for SYSLOG to force SYSLOG run in local-mode 
 only

 I think the main reason was 1) above: it seemed that OMVS was
 preventing SYSLOG from using that port. I don't know why that line
 reserving the port was there.

 Many thanks to all.
 Best regards,
 Aitor.

 On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:24 AM, IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, it doesn't make any sense. That's why I was asking in this forum.
 There must be something that I'm missing... I'm racking my brains! :-(

 On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Walter Marguccio
 walter_marguc...@yahoo.com wrote:
 From: IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com

 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

 The result is that starting it from /etc/rc works, but letting TCPIP
 start it using the AUTOLOG feature ends with the message already active.

 but that doesn't make sense, does it ?
 Just curious .


 Walter Marguccio
 z/OS Systems Programmer
 BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
 Munich - Germany

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-09 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Just one more clarifying comment: the cause was really in a line like
514 UDP SYSLOGT1 in the PORT section of TCPIP's profile. Removing
the leading 1 (SYSLOGT is the procedure name) made it work. So that
leading 1 was the cause. This is probably a reminiscence when SYSLOG
used to fork, if it used to.

In your initial post, you showed the message you're getting:
  BPXF024I (USRFWKT) Oct  8 11:27:08 BOLSAWBD/USRFWKT SYSLOGT syslogd:
  FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

TFM explains FSUM1229 as follows:
  Explanation: Another instance of syslogd, or possibly some other
program, is already 
   processing the syslogd AF_UNIX socket. The
syslogd AF_UNIX socket is 
   /dev/log, or a different one specified with
the -p command-line parameter.

This does not correlate to the cause you've found. syslogd should write
a message 
telling it could not open port 514 with the corresponding reason. 

APAR time?

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread IT Pro
Hi John, yes I've read there are several ways, but we want the syslog
be configured as a PROC so that it's easier for Operations to deal
with its management. They don't want anything dealing with Unix.
Anyways, I'll give that possibility a try.

Thanks a lot.
Aitor.

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Eatherly, John D
john.eathe...@centurylink.com wrote:
 It can also be started from: /etc/inetd.conf

 John Eatherly

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread Eatherly, John D
What I meant to say is that if you are already showing it as started, it is 
probably being started in /etc/inetd.conf.  You can comment that out by putting 
a # to the left of the startup line.

Thanks.

John Eatherly


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Hi John, yes I've read there are several ways, but we want the syslog be 
configured as a PROC so that it's easier for Operations to deal with its 
management. They don't want anything dealing with Unix.
Anyways, I'll give that possibility a try.

Thanks a lot.
Aitor.

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread IT Pro
Ah sorry, I misunderstood you. No, it isn't started neither from
/etc/inetd.conf nor /etc/rc.
Thanks.

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Eatherly, John D
john.eathe...@centurylink.com wrote:
 What I meant to say is that if you are already showing it as started, it is 
 probably being started in /etc/inetd.conf.  You can comment that out by 
 putting a # to the left of the startup line.

 Thanks.

 John Eatherly


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 Subject: Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

 Hi John, yes I've read there are several ways, but we want the syslog be 
 configured as a PROC so that it's easier for Operations to deal with its 
 management. They don't want anything dealing with Unix.
 Anyways, I'll give that possibility a try.

 Thanks a lot.
 Aitor.

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread Chris Mason
Aitor

 The start of the syslog is specified in the AUTOLOG of the TCPIP 
 configuration. 

Try reading in z/OS Communications Server IP Configuration Reference what the 
AUTOLOG statement in the PROFILE of the IP component of z/OS Communications 
Server does:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B4B1/2.8

quote

2.8 AUTOLOG statement

Use the AUTOLOG statement to provide a list of MVS started procedures to be 
started by the Autolog task when TCP/IP is started.

...

/quote

Yes I know this is the V1R13 manual but AUTOLOG hasn't changed since its 
invention in the early 1990s.

Incidentally it is likely that the greatest concentration of specialists with 
in fact both the SNA (VTAM) as well as the IP components of z/OS Communications 
Server can be found here:

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On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:31:17 +0200, IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

We upgraded from z/OS 1.9 to z/OS 1.12 a few months ago.

We have configured SYSLOGD daemon to be started as a started task from
a PROC, but when started we see in the MVS log syslogd: FSUM1229
syslogd is already active, and the procedure ends. The start of the
syslog is specified in the AUTOLOG of the TCPIP configuration.

S SYSLOGT
$HASP100 SYSLOGT  ON STCINRDR
$HASP373 SYSLOGT  STARTED
IEF403I SYSLOGT - STARTED - TIME=11.27.08
BPXF024I (USRFWKT) Oct  8 11:27:08 BOLSAWBD/USRFWKT SYSLOGT syslogd:
FSUM1229 syslogd is already active
IEF404I SYSLOGT - ENDED - TIME=11.27.08
$HASP395 SYSLOGT  ENDED

Could anybody give me a hint on this? I'm stuck at this.
Thanks,
Aitor.

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread IT Pro
Hi Chris, I read that. I know it's the TCPIP subsystem which starts
daemons specified in the AUTOLOG statement every x seconds, but I
don't know why SYSLOG complains there is another instance running,
that I don't see anywhere in the process list.

However, commenting out the line in the AUTOLOG stetament and starting
SYSLOG from /etc/rc works like a charm. There must be something I'm
missing, but I'm really flabbergasted anyways.


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote:
 Aitor

 The start of the syslog is specified in the AUTOLOG of the TCPIP 
 configuration.

 Try reading in z/OS Communications Server IP Configuration Reference what the 
 AUTOLOG statement in the PROFILE of the IP component of z/OS Communications 
 Server does:

 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B4B1/2.8

 quote

 2.8 AUTOLOG statement

 Use the AUTOLOG statement to provide a list of MVS started procedures to be 
 started by the Autolog task when TCP/IP is started.

 ...

 /quote

 Yes I know this is the V1R13 manual but AUTOLOG hasn't changed since its 
 invention in the early 1990s.

 Incidentally it is likely that the greatest concentration of specialists with 
 in fact both the SNA (VTAM) as well as the IP components of z/OS 
 Communications Server can be found here:

 For IBMTCP-L subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to 
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 Chris Mason

 On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:31:17 +0200, IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

We upgraded from z/OS 1.9 to z/OS 1.12 a few months ago.

We have configured SYSLOGD daemon to be started as a started task from
a PROC, but when started we see in the MVS log syslogd: FSUM1229
syslogd is already active, and the procedure ends. The start of the
syslog is specified in the AUTOLOG of the TCPIP configuration.

S SYSLOGT
$HASP100 SYSLOGT  ON STCINRDR
$HASP373 SYSLOGT  STARTED
IEF403I SYSLOGT - STARTED - TIME=11.27.08
BPXF024I (USRFWKT) Oct  8 11:27:08 BOLSAWBD/USRFWKT SYSLOGT syslogd:
FSUM1229 syslogd is already active
IEF404I SYSLOGT - ENDED - TIME=11.27.08
$HASP395 SYSLOGT  ENDED

Could anybody give me a hint on this? I'm stuck at this.
Thanks,
Aitor.

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread Walter Marguccio
 From: IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active


but I don't know why SYSLOG complains there is another instance running,
 that I don't see anywhere in the process list. 

what does command D A,SYSL* show ? 


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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread IT Pro
Hi Walter,

Your command's output is:

D A,SYSL*
IEE115I 13.59.06 2012.282 ACTIVITY
 JOBS M/STS USERSSYSASINITS   ACTIVE/MAX VTAM OAS
5000262  00032000212/00010   00024
SYSL* NOT FOUND


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Walter Marguccio
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 From: IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active


but I don't know why SYSLOG complains there is another instance running,
 that I don't see anywhere in the process list.

 what does command D A,SYSL* show ?


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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread Patrick Loftus
Do you have CA Common Services?  That fires up SYSLOGD if it isn't already 
running, but under a taskname of (by default) something like TNGEMSTR.
I'd go to the PS panel in SDSF, or do a D OMVS,A=ALL command and look for a 
command with syslogd in it.
It's not necessarily a task called SYSLOGD, but it will have syslogd in the 
command.

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:31:17 +0200, IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

We upgraded from z/OS 1.9 to z/OS 1.12 a few months ago.

We have configured SYSLOGD daemon to be started as a started task from
a PROC, but when started we see in the MVS log syslogd: FSUM1229
syslogd is already active, and the procedure ends. The start of the
syslog is specified in the AUTOLOG of the TCPIP configuration.

S SYSLOGT
$HASP100 SYSLOGT  ON STCINRDR
$HASP373 SYSLOGT  STARTED
IEF403I SYSLOGT - STARTED - TIME=11.27.08
BPXF024I (USRFWKT) Oct  8 11:27:08 BOLSAWBD/USRFWKT SYSLOGT syslogd:
FSUM1229 syslogd is already active
IEF404I SYSLOGT - ENDED - TIME=11.27.08
$HASP395 SYSLOGT  ENDED

Could anybody give me a hint on this? I'm stuck at this.
Thanks,
Aitor.

Are you using the same /etc/rc after you upgraded?   For example,
this is how I start it from /etc/rc:

# Start the SYSLOGD daemon which supplies logging functions for programs  
_BPX_JOBNAME='SYSLOGD' /usr/sbin/syslogd -f /etc/syslog.conf 


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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Hi Chris, I read that. I know it's the TCPIP subsystem which starts
daemons specified in the AUTOLOG statement every x seconds, but I
don't know why SYSLOG complains there is another instance running,
that I don't see anywhere in the process list.

a) UNIX daemons usually fork() once or twice during startup. I don't
know off hand if this applies to syslogd as well but would guess so.

b) z/OS will slightly change a process' (MVS) jobname upon fork() (and
non-local spawn()) when the original jobname is shorter than 8
characters: a digit between 1 and 9 will be appended.

If both a) and b) apply, then the resulting syslogd process will run in
a different address space with a *different* jobname than the one
started by TCP/IP's autolog feature. It will then think the job died and
will restart it. 

If this turns out to be your problem, try running syslogd with an 8
character jobname (i,e.PROC name). z/OS will then leave the jobname
alone upon fork()/spawn().

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Peter Hunkeler

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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active


However, commenting out the line in the AUTOLOG stetament and starting
SYSLOG from /etc/rc works like a charm. There must be something I'm
missing, but I'm really flabbergasted anyways.


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net
wrote:
 Aitor

 The start of the syslog is specified in the AUTOLOG of the TCPIP
configuration.

 Try reading in z/OS Communications Server IP Configuration Reference
what the AUTOLOG statement in the PROFILE of the IP component of z/OS
Communications Server does:


http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B4B1/2.8

 quote

 2.8 AUTOLOG statement

 Use the AUTOLOG statement to provide a list of MVS started procedures
to be started by the Autolog task when TCP/IP is started.

 ...

 /quote

 Yes I know this is the V1R13 manual but AUTOLOG hasn't changed since
its invention in the early 1990s.

 Incidentally it is likely that the greatest concentration of
specialists with in fact both the SNA (VTAM) as well as the IP
components of z/OS Communications Server can be found here:

 For IBMTCP-L subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send
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 Chris Mason

 On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:31:17 +0200, IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

We upgraded from z/OS 1.9 to z/OS 1.12 a few months ago.

We have configured SYSLOGD daemon to be started as a started task from
a PROC, but when started we see in the MVS log syslogd: FSUM1229
syslogd is already active, and the procedure ends. The start of the
syslog is specified in the AUTOLOG of the TCPIP configuration.

S SYSLOGT
$HASP100 SYSLOGT  ON STCINRDR
$HASP373 SYSLOGT  STARTED
IEF403I SYSLOGT - STARTED - TIME=11.27.08
BPXF024I (USRFWKT) Oct  8 11:27:08 BOLSAWBD/USRFWKT SYSLOGT syslogd:
FSUM1229 syslogd is already active
IEF404I SYSLOGT - ENDED - TIME=11.27.08
$HASP395 SYSLOGT  ENDED

Could anybody give me a hint on this? I'm stuck at this.
Thanks,
Aitor.

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread McKown, John
Curiously, on our z/OS 1.12 system, when I start SYSLOGD using /etc/rc via the 
line:

# Start the syslog daemon
_BPX_JOBNAME='SYSLOGD' /usr/sbin/syslogd -c -u 

I see the name SYSLOGD in the SDSF DA OSTC. This is in contrast to the CROND 
daemon which does indeed have a number appended to it. Apparently the SYSLOGD 
daemon on z/OS does not do a fork().

-- 
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Systems Engineer IV
IT

Administrative Services Group

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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 9:04 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active
 
 Hi Chris, I read that. I know it's the TCPIP subsystem which starts
 daemons specified in the AUTOLOG statement every x seconds, but I
 don't know why SYSLOG complains there is another instance running,
 that I don't see anywhere in the process list.
 
 a) UNIX daemons usually fork() once or twice during startup. I don't
 know off hand if this applies to syslogd as well but would guess so.
 
 b) z/OS will slightly change a process' (MVS) jobname upon fork() (and
 non-local spawn()) when the original jobname is shorter than 8
 characters: a digit between 1 and 9 will be appended.
 
 If both a) and b) apply, then the resulting syslogd process will run in
 a different address space with a *different* jobname than the one
 started by TCP/IP's autolog feature. It will then think the job died
 and
 will restart it.
 
 If this turns out to be your problem, try running syslogd with an 8
 character jobname (i,e.PROC name). z/OS will then leave the jobname
 alone upon fork()/spawn().
 
 --
 Peter Hunkeler
 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
 Behalf Of IT Pro
 Sent: Montag, 8. Oktober 2012 13:43
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active
 
 
 However, commenting out the line in the AUTOLOG stetament and starting
 SYSLOG from /etc/rc works like a charm. There must be something I'm
 missing, but I'm really flabbergasted anyways.
 
 
 On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net
 wrote:
  Aitor
 
  The start of the syslog is specified in the AUTOLOG of the TCPIP
 configuration.
 
  Try reading in z/OS Communications Server IP Configuration Reference
 what the AUTOLOG statement in the PROFILE of the IP component of z/OS
 Communications Server does:
 
 
 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B4B1/2.8
 
  quote
 
  2.8 AUTOLOG statement
 
  Use the AUTOLOG statement to provide a list of MVS started procedures
 to be started by the Autolog task when TCP/IP is started.
 
  ...
 
  /quote
 
  Yes I know this is the V1R13 manual but AUTOLOG hasn't changed since
 its invention in the early 1990s.
 
  Incidentally it is likely that the greatest concentration of
 specialists with in fact both the SNA (VTAM) as well as the IP
 components of z/OS Communications Server can be found here:
 
  For IBMTCP-L subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send
 email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO IBMTCP-L
 
  Chris Mason
 
  On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:31:17 +0200, IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 We upgraded from z/OS 1.9 to z/OS 1.12 a few months ago.
 
 We have configured SYSLOGD daemon to be started as a started task
 from
 a PROC, but when started we see in the MVS log syslogd: FSUM1229
 syslogd is already active, and the procedure ends. The start of the
 syslog is specified in the AUTOLOG of the TCPIP configuration.
 
 S SYSLOGT
 $HASP100 SYSLOGT  ON STCINRDR
 $HASP373 SYSLOGT  STARTED
 IEF403I SYSLOGT - STARTED - TIME=11.27.08
 BPXF024I (USRFWKT) Oct  8 11:27:08 BOLSAWBD/USRFWKT SYSLOGT syslogd:
 FSUM1229 syslogd is already active
 IEF404I SYSLOGT - ENDED - TIME=11.27.08
 $HASP395 SYSLOGT  ENDED
 
 Could anybody give me a hint on this? I'm stuck at this.
 Thanks,
 Aitor.
 
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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread IT Pro
Patrick, in the output of D OMVS,A=ALL does not appear anywhere syslogd

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Patrick Loftus patrick.lof...@tnt.com wrote:
 Do you have CA Common Services?  That fires up SYSLOGD if it isn't already 
 running, but under a taskname of (by default) something like TNGEMSTR.
 I'd go to the PS panel in SDSF, or do a D OMVS,A=ALL command and look for 
 a command with syslogd in it.
 It's not necessarily a task called SYSLOGD, but it will have syslogd in the 
 command.

 Kind regards
 Patrick Loftus
 TNT Express ICS Ltd.

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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread IT Pro
We have customized /etc/rc to include the start of syslog, very
similar to what you say, and it works like that:

_BPX_JOBNAME='SYSLOGT' /usr/sbin/syslogd -d -c -u -f
/usr/local/etc/syslogd.conf 


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote:
 On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:31:17 +0200, IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

We upgraded from z/OS 1.9 to z/OS 1.12 a few months ago.

We have configured SYSLOGD daemon to be started as a started task from
a PROC, but when started we see in the MVS log syslogd: FSUM1229
syslogd is already active, and the procedure ends. The start of the
syslog is specified in the AUTOLOG of the TCPIP configuration.

S SYSLOGT
$HASP100 SYSLOGT  ON STCINRDR
$HASP373 SYSLOGT  STARTED
IEF403I SYSLOGT - STARTED - TIME=11.27.08
BPXF024I (USRFWKT) Oct  8 11:27:08 BOLSAWBD/USRFWKT SYSLOGT syslogd:
FSUM1229 syslogd is already active
IEF404I SYSLOGT - ENDED - TIME=11.27.08
$HASP395 SYSLOGT  ENDED

Could anybody give me a hint on this? I'm stuck at this.
Thanks,
Aitor.

 Are you using the same /etc/rc after you upgraded?   For example,
 this is how I start it from /etc/rc:

 # Start the SYSLOGD daemon which supplies logging functions for programs
 _BPX_JOBNAME='SYSLOGD' /usr/sbin/syslogd -f /etc/syslog.conf 


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 mailto:m...@mzelden.com
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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread IT Pro
Exactly what you say John: in SDSF DA, CRON appears with a number
appended, where as SYSLOG does not, just the exact JOBNAME as
specified in _BPX_JOBNAME

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:22 PM, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
 Curiously, on our z/OS 1.12 system, when I start SYSLOGD using /etc/rc via 
 the line:

 # Start the syslog daemon
 _BPX_JOBNAME='SYSLOGD' /usr/sbin/syslogd -c -u 

 I see the name SYSLOGD in the SDSF DA OSTC. This is in contrast to the CROND 
 daemon which does indeed have a number appended to it. Apparently the SYSLOGD 
 daemon on z/OS does not do a fork().

 --
 John McKown
 Systems Engineer IV
 IT

 Administrative Services Group

 HealthMarkets(r)

 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
 (817) 255-3225 phone *
 john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com

 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or 
 proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please 
 contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original 
 message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and 
 issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake 
 Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of 
 TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 9:04 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

 Hi Chris, I read that. I know it's the TCPIP subsystem which starts
 daemons specified in the AUTOLOG statement every x seconds, but I
 don't know why SYSLOG complains there is another instance running,
 that I don't see anywhere in the process list.

 a) UNIX daemons usually fork() once or twice during startup. I don't
 know off hand if this applies to syslogd as well but would guess so.

 b) z/OS will slightly change a process' (MVS) jobname upon fork() (and
 non-local spawn()) when the original jobname is shorter than 8
 characters: a digit between 1 and 9 will be appended.

 If both a) and b) apply, then the resulting syslogd process will run in
 a different address space with a *different* jobname than the one
 started by TCP/IP's autolog feature. It will then think the job died
 and
 will restart it.

 If this turns out to be your problem, try running syslogd with an 8
 character jobname (i,e.PROC name). z/OS will then leave the jobname
 alone upon fork()/spawn().

 --
 Peter Hunkeler

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
 Behalf Of IT Pro
 Sent: Montag, 8. Oktober 2012 13:43
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active


 However, commenting out the line in the AUTOLOG stetament and starting
 SYSLOG from /etc/rc works like a charm. There must be something I'm
 missing, but I'm really flabbergasted anyways.


 On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net
 wrote:
  Aitor
 
  The start of the syslog is specified in the AUTOLOG of the TCPIP
 configuration.
 
  Try reading in z/OS Communications Server IP Configuration Reference
 what the AUTOLOG statement in the PROFILE of the IP component of z/OS
 Communications Server does:
 
 
 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B4B1/2.8
 
  quote
 
  2.8 AUTOLOG statement
 
  Use the AUTOLOG statement to provide a list of MVS started procedures
 to be started by the Autolog task when TCP/IP is started.
 
  ...
 
  /quote
 
  Yes I know this is the V1R13 manual but AUTOLOG hasn't changed since
 its invention in the early 1990s.
 
  Incidentally it is likely that the greatest concentration of
 specialists with in fact both the SNA (VTAM) as well as the IP
 components of z/OS Communications Server can be found here:
 
  For IBMTCP-L subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send
 email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO IBMTCP-L
 
  Chris Mason
 
  On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:31:17 +0200, IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 We upgraded from z/OS 1.9 to z/OS 1.12 a few months ago.
 
 We have configured SYSLOGD daemon to be started as a started task
 from
 a PROC, but when started we see in the MVS log syslogd: FSUM1229
 syslogd is already active, and the procedure ends. The start of the
 syslog is specified in the AUTOLOG of the TCPIP configuration.
 
 S SYSLOGT
 $HASP100 SYSLOGT  ON STCINRDR
 $HASP373 SYSLOGT  STARTED
 IEF403I SYSLOGT - STARTED - TIME=11.27.08
 BPXF024I (USRFWKT) Oct  8 11:27:08 BOLSAWBD/USRFWKT SYSLOGT syslogd:
 FSUM1229 syslogd is already active
 IEF404I SYSLOGT - ENDED - TIME=11.27.08
 $HASP395 SYSLOGT  ENDED
 
 Could anybody give me a hint on this? I'm stuck at this.
 Thanks,
 Aitor.
 
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Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:31:39 +0200, IT Pro bilit...@gmail.com wrote:

We have customized /etc/rc to include the start of syslog, very
similar to what you say, and it works like that:

_BPX_JOBNAME='SYSLOGT' /usr/sbin/syslogd -d -c -u -f
/usr/local/etc/syslogd.conf 


Well then you've answered your own question.If you are starting
it via /etc/rc,  then when you try to start it from a 
console START command or AUTOLOG it will have already
been active and you will see the message you are seeing.

Choose only one method to start it (I prefer /etc/rc). 

Regards,

Mark
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