Re: zSeries HMC forcible disconnect issue - anybody seen this one before?

2015-03-17 Thread Don Williams
I opened a PMR and found that IBM is working on a Java 8 issue. They do not
have an ETA for a fix.

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 Java issue.  Downgrading to version 6 as on old hosts worked around it.
SR
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 Call MS.
 
 Ed
 
 On Mar 9, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Ambros, Thomas wrote:
 
  Remote access to our HMCs is controlled through a 'jump host' we
  access through Citrix in normal circumstances.  I'm experiencing this
  problem when I use Windows Remote Desktop access to that jump host,
  bypassing Citrix, so I believe it is something to do with the Windows
  machine that is the jump host.
 
  This is a new issue after our Windows guys upgraded the jump host to
  Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter 6.1.7601, Java Version 8 update 31
  and we're using Internet Explorer version 8.  I'm pretty sure IE is
  unchanged.
 
  The zSeries HMCs are at 2.12.0 and are unchanged, obviously.
 
  The problem is a fairly consistent forcible session disconnect after
  45 seconds.  The HMC log simply reports that it was forcibly
  disconnected with no further details, and I haven't found anything in
  any of Window's logs to indicate what or why it was done.  It's not an
  inactivity timeout, active use of the HMC gets cut off just as a
  session that is not being used.
 
  It appears to be restricted to the zSeries HMC, for example our
  Storage Admin team reports no problems with their TPC-R browser
  sessions through the same jump host.  My next move is to find the Java
  configuration file options and see if there's some mindless default in
  there.
 
  I haven't opened an SR yet, I was throwing it out here in case
  somebody's seen this sort of symptom themselves.  Already raised the
  issue of backing out to our Windows team, if they can't assist in
  diagnostics, but I'd prefer to fix it not really having the time to go
  through the annoyance of reinstall.
 
  Thanks...
 
  Thomas Ambros
  zEnterprise Operating Systems
  zEnterprise Systems Management
  518-436-6433
 
 
 
 
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Re: zSeries HMC forcible disconnect issue - anybody seen this one before?

2015-03-09 Thread Lucas Rosalen
You may want to check also the java console. Also setting it to debug (I
guess it's done by simply typing 5 when it's opened) might help.

Lucas
Em 09/03/2015 12:45, Ambros, Thomas thomas_amb...@keybank.com escreveu:

 Remote access to our HMCs is controlled through a 'jump host' we access
 through Citrix in normal circumstances.  I'm experiencing this problem when
 I use Windows Remote Desktop access to that jump host, bypassing Citrix, so
 I believe it is something to do with the Windows machine that is the jump
 host.

 This is a new issue after our Windows guys upgraded the jump host to
 Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter 6.1.7601, Java Version 8 update 31 and
 we're using Internet Explorer version 8.  I'm pretty sure IE is unchanged.

 The zSeries HMCs are at 2.12.0 and are unchanged, obviously.

 The problem is a fairly consistent forcible session disconnect after 45
 seconds.  The HMC log simply reports that it was forcibly disconnected with
 no further details, and I haven't found anything in any of Window's logs to
 indicate what or why it was done.  It's not an inactivity timeout, active
 use of the HMC gets cut off just as a session that is not being used.

 It appears to be restricted to the zSeries HMC, for example our Storage
 Admin team reports no problems with their TPC-R browser sessions through
 the same jump host.  My next move is to find the Java configuration file
 options and see if there's some mindless default in there.

 I haven't opened an SR yet, I was throwing it out here in case somebody's
 seen this sort of symptom themselves.  Already raised the issue of backing
 out to our Windows team, if they can't assist in diagnostics, but I'd
 prefer to fix it not really having the time to go through the annoyance of
 reinstall.

 Thanks...

 Thomas Ambros
 zEnterprise Operating Systems
 zEnterprise Systems Management
 518-436-6433




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Re: zSeries HMC forcible disconnect issue - anybody seen this one before?

2015-03-09 Thread Ed Gould

Call MS.

Ed

On Mar 9, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Ambros, Thomas wrote:

Remote access to our HMCs is controlled through a 'jump host' we  
access through Citrix in normal circumstances.  I'm experiencing  
this problem when I use Windows Remote Desktop access to that jump  
host, bypassing Citrix, so I believe it is something to do with the  
Windows machine that is the jump host.


This is a new issue after our Windows guys upgraded the jump host  
to Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter 6.1.7601, Java Version 8  
update 31 and we're using Internet Explorer version 8.  I'm pretty  
sure IE is unchanged.


The zSeries HMCs are at 2.12.0 and are unchanged, obviously.

The problem is a fairly consistent forcible session disconnect  
after 45 seconds.  The HMC log simply reports that it was forcibly  
disconnected with no further details, and I haven't found anything  
in any of Window's logs to indicate what or why it was done.  It's  
not an inactivity timeout, active use of the HMC gets cut off just  
as a session that is not being used.


It appears to be restricted to the zSeries HMC, for example our  
Storage Admin team reports no problems with their TPC-R browser  
sessions through the same jump host.  My next move is to find the  
Java configuration file options and see if there's some mindless  
default in there.


I haven't opened an SR yet, I was throwing it out here in case  
somebody's seen this sort of symptom themselves.  Already raised  
the issue of backing out to our Windows team, if they can't assist  
in diagnostics, but I'd prefer to fix it not really having the time  
to go through the annoyance of reinstall.


Thanks...

Thomas Ambros
zEnterprise Operating Systems
zEnterprise Systems Management
518-436-6433




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Re: zSeries HMC forcible disconnect issue - anybody seen this one before?

2015-03-09 Thread Ambros, Thomas
Java issue.  Downgrading to version 6 as on old hosts worked around it.  SR 
time... 

Thomas Ambros
zEnterprise Operating Systems
zEnterprise Systems Management
518-436-6433


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Ed Gould
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 12:48
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: zSeries HMC forcible disconnect issue - anybody seen this one 
before?

Call MS.

Ed

On Mar 9, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Ambros, Thomas wrote:

 Remote access to our HMCs is controlled through a 'jump host' we 
 access through Citrix in normal circumstances.  I'm experiencing this 
 problem when I use Windows Remote Desktop access to that jump host, 
 bypassing Citrix, so I believe it is something to do with the Windows 
 machine that is the jump host.

 This is a new issue after our Windows guys upgraded the jump host to 
 Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter 6.1.7601, Java Version 8 update 31 
 and we're using Internet Explorer version 8.  I'm pretty sure IE is 
 unchanged.

 The zSeries HMCs are at 2.12.0 and are unchanged, obviously.

 The problem is a fairly consistent forcible session disconnect after 
 45 seconds.  The HMC log simply reports that it was forcibly 
 disconnected with no further details, and I haven't found anything in 
 any of Window's logs to indicate what or why it was done.  It's not an 
 inactivity timeout, active use of the HMC gets cut off just as a 
 session that is not being used.

 It appears to be restricted to the zSeries HMC, for example our 
 Storage Admin team reports no problems with their TPC-R browser 
 sessions through the same jump host.  My next move is to find the Java 
 configuration file options and see if there's some mindless default in 
 there.

 I haven't opened an SR yet, I was throwing it out here in case 
 somebody's seen this sort of symptom themselves.  Already raised the 
 issue of backing out to our Windows team, if they can't assist in 
 diagnostics, but I'd prefer to fix it not really having the time to go 
 through the annoyance of reinstall.

 Thanks...

 Thomas Ambros
 zEnterprise Operating Systems
 zEnterprise Systems Management
 518-436-6433




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