Re: Refreshing CAISSF for CA-7

[Gibney, Dave]

Didn't :)

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> SETROPTS GENERIC REFRESH _might_ be of some help. I've not used it for CA-
> 7 related profiles.
> 
> ref:
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> kBlEdX1%2FSHA77LcDMtbBvZZrKbDAjiAM%3D%0A&s=89bc03ad0ba7d7e666a
> 6d3021ea416358eb8e83238e514b71e81ea4d2d506afe
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Re: Refreshing CAISSF for CA-7

[John McKown]

SETROPTS GENERIC REFRESH _might_ be of some help. I've not used it for CA-7
related profiles.

ref:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ichza2c0/2.10.1.4

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Re: Refreshing CAISSF for CA-7

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <54e78457.9000...@rochester.rr.com>, on 02/20/2015
   at 02:00 PM, Thomas Conley  said:

>This is just one example of many.

At CA, perhaps; I still have nightmates about CA service in RELFILE
format. But how representative is CA of the entire industry?
 
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Re: Refreshing CAISSF for CA-7

[Thomas Conley]

On 2/20/2015 11:44 AM, Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:

In <54e743c9.9010...@rochester.rr.com>, on 02/20/2015
at 09:25 AM, Thomas Conley  said:


After reading this technote, all I can say is "Justwow".
Instead of CA creating an option or a command to refresh the
security profiles  (that would involve CODING, can't do that), we
have to hack a zap into  an SMP/E maintained module without a
usermod, then remember to rehack it  every time we apply
maintenance.  No wonder people complain about how  difficult it is
to maintain mainframe software.


How does a poor maintenance policy at one vendor translate into a
blanket condemnation of mainframe software?



Shmuel,

This is just one example of many.  And considering how widespread CA-7 
is in the marketplace, a particularly egregious one, IMNSHO.  I've also 
worked for and with software vendors to reduce/eliminate downtime 
issues, so this one hits close to home for me.


Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: Refreshing CAISSF for CA-7

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <54e743c9.9010...@rochester.rr.com>, on 02/20/2015
   at 09:25 AM, Thomas Conley  said:

>After reading this technote, all I can say is "Justwow".  
>Instead of CA creating an option or a command to refresh the 
>security profiles  (that would involve CODING, can't do that), we 
>have to hack a zap into  an SMP/E maintained module without a 
>usermod, then remember to rehack it  every time we apply 
>maintenance.  No wonder people complain about how  difficult it is 
>to maintain mainframe software.

How does a poor maintenance policy at one vendor translate into a
blanket condemnation of mainframe software?
 
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Re: Refreshing CAISSF for CA-7

[Gibney, Dave]

That's what I was hoping for. Some kind of modify or even a S CAS9,refresh parm

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> On Behalf Of Thomas Conley
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> 
> On 2/19/2015 7:55 PM, Neubert, Kevin wrote:
> > Any help here?
> >
> > TEC428347
> >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ca.com/us/suppor
> > t/ca-support-online/product-content/knowledgebase-
> articles/tec428347.a
> >
> spx&k=EWEYHnIvm0nsSxnW5y9VIw%3D%3D%0A&r=j6Xa1Y0fbuP2mfgCQ5Zxhg%3D%3D%0
> >
> A&m=KfWDhHbjwUhnzG4etTpJ%2BiFE9h%2B%2BI%2FWtu63p5hTFZZg%3D%0A&s=3b3a26
> > 6a80a9975cae94d28848d03389957d46710a232e3d9f2de04eeeb3d9d2
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> 
> After reading this technote, all I can say is "Justwow".  Instead
> of CA creating an option or a command to refresh the security profiles
> (that would involve CODING, can't do that), we have to hack a zap into
> an SMP/E maintained module without a usermod, then remember to rehack
> it every time we apply maintenance.  No wonder people complain about
> how difficult it is to maintain mainframe software.
> 
> Regards,
> Tom Conley
> 
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Re: Refreshing CAISSF for CA-7

[Thomas Conley]

On 2/19/2015 7:55 PM, Neubert, Kevin wrote:

Any help here?

TEC428347

http://www.ca.com/us/support/ca-support-online/product-content/knowledgebase-articles/tec428347.aspx

Regards,

Kevin



After reading this technote, all I can say is "Justwow".  Instead of 
CA creating an option or a command to refresh the security profiles 
(that would involve CODING, can't do that), we have to hack a zap into 
an SMP/E maintained module without a usermod, then remember to rehack it 
every time we apply maintenance.  No wonder people complain about how 
difficult it is to maintain mainframe software.


Regards,
Tom Conley  

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Re: Refreshing CAISSF for CA-7

[Gibney, Dave]

This is helpful. Not as immediately helpful as I had hoped, but helpful.

I may be in business anyway. Truns out that I probably have the definitions I 
need already in my Production Lpar. This time it was development that was out 
of sync and it wasn't a big deal to roll CA-7 there.

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> 
> Any help here?
> 
> TEC428347
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ca.com/us/support/c
> a-support-online/product-content/knowledgebase-
> articles/tec428347.aspx&k=EWEYHnIvm0nsSxnW5y9VIw%3D%3D%0A&r=j6Xa
> 1Y0fbuP2mfgCQ5Zxhg%3D%3D%0A&m=Euuc1HqggzGWKqnYyhlFx%2BSRlk4xS
> Omfr7iD92P0%2FLo%3D%0A&s=577acfd9a2a638eac07176a2ab36eddcf3624a
> 63c6ea7e597b23f1b48ad8133b
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kevin
> 
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> 
> I apologize my frequency in the forums lately :)
> 
> I can't seem to find a way to refresh the permissions to the CA-7 PA@EL
> resources without rolling the CA-7 address space.
> Am I expecting too much? I was sure I remembered a way to refresh either in
> CA-7 or at the CAIRIM/CAISSF level.
> 
> Dave Gibney
> Information Technology Services
> Washington State University
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Re: Refreshing CAISSF for CA-7

[Neubert, Kevin]

Any help here?

TEC428347

http://www.ca.com/us/support/ca-support-online/product-content/knowledgebase-articles/tec428347.aspx

Regards,

Kevin

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Of Gibney, Dave
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:59 PM
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Subject: Refreshing CAISSF for CA-7

I apologize my frequency in the forums lately :)

I can't seem to find a way to refresh the permissions to the CA-7 PA@EL 
resources without rolling the CA-7 address space.
Am I expecting too much? I was sure I remembered a way to refresh either in 
CA-7 or at the CAIRIM/CAISSF level.

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University


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Re: Refreshing CAISSF for CA-7

[Lizette Koehler]

If you have not gotten a response, I would either open a case to CA 7
support, or go to the CA Community for CA7 and ask there.

Lizette

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> On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:59 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Refreshing CAISSF for CA-7
> 
> I apologize my frequency in the forums lately :)
> 
> I can't seem to find a way to refresh the permissions to the CA-7 PA@EL
> resources without rolling the CA-7 address space.
> Am I expecting too much? I was sure I remembered a way to refresh either
> in CA-7 or at the CAIRIM/CAISSF level.
> 
> Dave Gibney
> Information Technology Services
> Washington State University
> 
> 

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Refreshing CAISSF for CA-7

[Gibney, Dave]

I apologize my frequency in the forums lately :)

I can't seem to find a way to refresh the permissions to the CA-7 PA@EL 
resources without rolling the CA-7 address space.
Am I expecting too much? I was sure I remembered a way to refresh either in 
CA-7 or at the CAIRIM/CAISSF level.

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University


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